A Limp Outing for Video Game Blame in Sandy Hook Shootings

The “Do Something, Somebody!” responses to the Sandy Hook Elementary School shootings seem to have gelled firmly on new gun control regulations with a side trip into some nebulous mental health care reform.

Video game violence has also popped up, as it tends to do whenever any young man engages in a violent murder spree. Shooter Adam Lanza apparently played video games, because he is a young man in America. You would be hard-pressed to find a young man in America who does not engage in the recreational activity of video-gaming.

Video game muttering didn’t seem to go as far this time, though there’s still plenty of investigation to be done to allow the media to fret over every single detail that comes up about Lanza. A computer at Lanza’s home had been apparently smashed apart, so it may take some time to find out what sort of madness he might have written that could explain his behavior.

There have been some comments, but it doesn’t seem to have as much traction this time. Colorado Gov. John Hickenlooper weighed in on Sunday:

"There might well be some direct connection between people who have some mental instability and when they go over the edge - they transport themselves, they become part of one of those video games," Hickenlooper said on CNN's "State of the Union." "Perhaps that's why all these assault weapons are used."

At least he noted that it’s the mental instability that causes them to “transport themselves” into the video game mentality instead of the other way around. That’s an improvement in thinking that video games actually cause the break from reality.

And then there’s some fact-free “Kids today” commentary from Ben Stein at The American Spectator:

In these games, the “player” just spends his whole day attempting to exercise and exorcize his loneliness and low self-esteem by shooting imaginary creatures and creating damage all day long.

At a certain point, just “killing” on the console blurs into doing it in real life. “Killing” is just what the kid does all his life. How much of a stretch is it for him to shoot into a movie theater or a political gathering or a kindergarten in “real life” if his life is so pitiful that he does not know what’s real and what is not? If you are looking for a villain, try shoot ’em up games.

Stein’s crankypants, factually unsupported assertions continue on to blaming the media for making killers “famous,” which is a complaint I hear across the political spectrum that doesn’t have any real psychological foundation that I can discern, yet persists.

You have to cross the sea to the British tabloids to get the real terrified “video games made him kill” stories. Gaming blog Kotaku notes that two British tabloids have laid the blame on Call of Duty (a first-person shooting game) and Dynasty Warriors, which is a game series that is set in … feudal China. And while it is a combat-heavy game, there are notably no assault weapons, of course. The game also, as much as a game can, seeks to recreate China’s actual history as faithfully as possible, which sounds like the kind of game that might appeal to somebody who falls on the Asperger’s portion of the autism spectrum (I’ve never actually played any of the games myself).

Aware of the possibility of game linkage, Max Fisher at The Washington Post looked at the numbers from ten countries that show there is no correlation between video game spending per capita and gun-related homicide. His chart, surprisingly, shows United States falling behind in video game consumption compared to Australia, England, Canada, France and South Korea. The top country for video game consumption was the Netherlands. But America kicked all their asses when it came to gun-related violence.

Fisher’s chart actually showed that gun homicides went down in countries with high video game consumption. Clearly, the logical conclusion is that we must make video games mandatory.

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  • ||

    $10 says the NRA is dumb enough to make blaming video games its main defense.

  • ||

    Nah. I never bet against the rule of bureaucracy: To predict the actions of a bureaucracy, assume that it is run by a cabal of its enemies.

  • nicole||

    I thought the NRA was just pretending to disappear for a while instead of doing any defense at all.

  • BakedPenguin||

    They've slapped this over the sign at their HQ.

  • General Butt Naked||

    "Why y'alls protestin' us? We only know belt buckles and rape! No guns here, no maam."

  • ||

    Rape is practically non-existent on the rodeo circuit. The only thing more violent and crazy than a bull with its balls strapped up is a drunken barrel racer.

  • General Butt Naked||

    It was a bad handbanana reference, which I now see is the second one of this thread.

    I can't imagine wanting to rape anything after having my balls pounded by a 1000lb bull. Not that I want to rape things at other times.

    I just meant, I'll shut up now.

  • General Butt Naked||

    I would hope that they are taking this time to let lawmakers distance themselves from the organization, whilst reminding said lawmakers who butters their bread.

    Also, given the adhd nature of modern media, they might just be hoping for a blow over. It's a risky move, but do you think people will still be talking about this after christmas?

  • SIV||

    Naaa

    They'll mention it in passing along with a general condemnation of Hollywood and a decline in "values" but the NRA will use the constitution, traditon and self defense as their main defense just like they always have since the Knox split.

  • General Butt Naked||

    Press conference on fri. Here's a teaser:

    NRA says it is 'prepared to offer meaningful contributions to help make sure this never happens again'

    Oh, gawd. I just got sick feeling.

    If they are behind restrictions they'll be able to get some republican votes; maybe enough to pass new legislation.

    Fuck, I am not hopeful.

  • ||

    For the NRA, making any sort of concession on gun control now is tantamount to saying, "we know guns are the problem, just please don't take them all away."

  • General Butt Naked||

    Exactly. Any concession is implicit acceptance that tighter laws can make this sort of thing go away. The anti-gun forces will take this acceptance and run with it, they'll get much more than the NRA concedes to.

    If there was ever a time for standing firm, it is now. If they can't, or wont' protect firearm owners in a time of crisis, what good are they?

  • nicole||

    Christ, between that and the fact Manchin is running around telling people he doesn't see why hunters need 30-round magazines or "assault weapons," I too am not hopeful.

  • Zeb||

    I would think that they should make "the right to keep and bear arms is just the same as it was last Thursday" their defense.

  • iggy||

    I think we should monitor all citizen's computers, so we can know if they've been writing anything dangerous or threatening. More importantly, in order to stop the inevitable violence caused by the prepper movement, we should remove peoples' ability to stockpile weapons or food. Call me old fashioned, but I grew up in a world where people ate their government rations at the mandated feeding time, and that's the way I like it.

  • Loki||

    a world where people ate their government rations at the mandated feeding time

    So you're a North Korean?

  • ||

    He's sarcastic.

  • ||

    Really? Are you sure?

  • mr simple||

    If you are looking for a villain, try shoot ’em up games.

    Why don't we just try the guy who shot everyone?

  • ||

    How are you going to force through gun control legislation and vilify video games if you do that?

  • John||

    Remember how they tried to blame Columbine on video games? My favorite was the claim that the losers who pulled that off were super incredible crack shots because they had played so many shooter games. I guess the Army should have been using Doom to train their soldiers.

    The media did manage to put the truth, that the shooters were deranged loser terrorists who were not particularly good shots, on page 19 below the fold five months later.

  • tarran||

    I guess the Army should have been using Doom to train their soldiers.

    Well, if they had, then all you would need to do to shoot guys far away would be to point your rifle so that they lay within a 2-3 degree cone around the centerline of the barrel.

    Soldiers trained to shoot Doom-style would be very effective. Enemy squad advancing on your position? Point your rifle at the middle of the squad and fire, wait for one guy to drop. Without reaiming, fire again, wait for the next guy to drop. Keep doing it until they are out of guys.

  • General Butt Naked||

    And if they shoot back, hide behind a crate. If your hit, eat a turkey.

  • Tim||

    Bullets are also to blame.

  • Paul.||

    Why don't we just try the guy who shot everyone?

    'Cause he dead.

  • SIV||

    The Catholic Church used to put dead people on trial.

  • pmains||

    The Cadaver Synod, when Pope Formosus was put on trial is a personal favorite.

  • $park¥||

    I'll tell you what, my son has 6 different versions of Dynasty Warriors on the game shelf at home. I started to get a bit worried when I heard that was the killer's favorite game.

  • Tim||

    If he grows up to be conquer China don't say you weren't warned.

  • $park¥||

    Shit, I might help if he asks. He has learned quite a bit about the warring states period.

  • Loki||

    So, to riff off of John's comment above about how the media at first tried to claim that the Columbine losers were crack shots from playing first person shooters, is your son now an expert in Kung Fu? Also, why didn't Lanza use his mad Kung Fu skills instead of guns if he was a Dynasty Warrior fanboy?

  • $park¥||

    He's not an expert yet, but when the weather is nice he spends a lot of time running around the backyard with his Nerf battleaxe. Until his big sister pushes him down and jumps on him anyway.

  • John||

    Until his big sister pushes him down and jumps on him anyway.

    Big sisters will do that.

  • Loki||

    You got him a Nerf battleaxe? What kind of a monster are you trying to raise?! It's only a matter of time before he decides to see what a real battleaxe can do! /pant wetting lib-tard douchenozzle

  • Killazontherun||

    Ha! When the nephew mentioned below was four (he's thirty now) I got us both He-Man swords. That kid could take a thrashing.

  • Killazontherun||

    The worst you can expect out of him is he suddenly starts speaking with a cornball ultra sincere enthusiasm in his every pronouncement. My nephew has the latest one, and the voice acting and script is terrible.

  • John||

    There might well be some direct connection between people who have some mental instability and when they go over the edge - they transport themselves, they become part of one of those video games," Hickenlooper said on CNN's "State of the Union." "Perhaps that's why all these assault weapons are used."

    Says dipshit politician who is not a psychiatrist and has no formal training in psychiatry or neuroscience. Jesus H. Christ he might as well be blaming the crime on demonic possession. In fact, that explanation would have more credibility since it at least has a long history of people believing such and thus wouldn't be completely pulled out of the governor's ass.

  • R C Dean||

    Perhaps that's why all these assault weapons are used.

    What assault weapons? Used by who?

    WTF is this lace-on-his-bunched-up-panties nitwit talking about?

  • John||

    Maybe he used a rifle because THAT IS WHAT HIS MOTHER OWNED AND WHAT HE WAS ABLE TO GET ACCESS TO. Just a thought.

  • Tim||

    Women and their guns, disgusting.

  • Paul.||

    Binders of women clinging to their guns.

  • SIV||

    who is not a psychiatrist and has no formal training in psychiatry or neuroscience.

    ^This^ is not a bad thing when you are looking for answers. That Sociology piece from september that has been circulating is a much better analysis than anything the psychs- can cobble together

  • General Butt Naked||

    Agreed. I have been sending that piece to everyone. Great analysis.

  • SKR||

    well mental illness has become the secular analog to demonic possession, and therapists basically hold the position of secular priest so..... you might be on to something there.

  • Tim||

    Ben Stein would know a lot about "loneliness and low self-esteem ".

  • John||

    Winner

  • R C Dean||

    Obama has come out in support of the new assault weapons ban.

    The good news is, of course, that the lame duck session will do nothing, and by the time the new Congress rolls into town, the current hysteria will have dissipated.

    As far as I'm concerned, if the Dems want to die on the gun control hill again, fine by me. I have the feeling there's a lot of pissed of Tea Party bitter clinger types spoiling for a fight, and this one will suit them just fine.

  • ||

    TEAM BLUE just cannot help themselves with the gun control issue. The idea of taking away a fundamental freedom gives them so much wood that they just have to keep dying on this hill, again and again.

  • John||

    They really can't help themselves.

  • Auric Demonocles||

    They think they'll just respawn indefinitely, because they can't tell the difference between video games and reality.

  • mr simple||

    They think they're right and that everyone agrees with them except the rethuglicans who constantly block Obama's glory, and no one likes those guys anymore. They don't even offer arguments for their side, because if you don't agree you're just an idiot anyway. So, basically they see no downside to dying on this hill again.

  • ||

    Its such a loser issue for team Blue. Just as much as abortion and immigration is for team Red.

    Of course, team Blue never gets asked "why are you focusing so much on guns when its so unpopular. Why just look at our poll!"

  • LTC(ret) John||

    I know the Donks are pretty stupid, but
    I think this is a lot of belching and squeaking with no real intent other than to whip up their partisans, and grab some cheap points. 2 years from now, are people going to vote for them against the other guys because of an assault weapons ban?

  • Tim||

    Here's what they've forgotten again, the people clamoring for this are their own base. Gunowners on the other hand will actively vote against them.

  • Bardas Phocas||

    I keep reminding the Grabbers, the AWB is why Bush got elected.

    Gore couldn't win his home state (since they don't like gun grabbers), that would have easily put him over the top. Instead he was scrabbling for votes in some shitheel Florida counties.

  • Zeb||

    It's kind of like abortion for the republicans. It's good for whipping up the base, but if they actually accomplished anything on it, it would only lose them votes and gain them nothing in elections.

  • ||

    2 years from now, are people going to vote for them against the other guys because of an assault weapons ban?

    Any Democrats in swing districts who supports another gun grab ought to expect to have that flung at them in attack ads in 2 years, and maybe get tossed out.

    Gun grabs are a political loser in all but the Bluest districts.

  • Loki||

    Obama has come out in support of the new assault weapons ban.

    Shocked face.

    As far as I'm concerned, if the Dems want to die on the gun control hill again, fine by me.

    Ordinarily I'd agree with you, but this time they've got a hill made of 20 dead kindergarteners. Dead children make notoriously surdy hills. Metaphorically speaking, of course.

  • R C Dean||

    A month from now, on the other side of the holidays, those 20 kids will be a distant memory.

  • Loki||

    I hope you're right. I think it will depend on what else happens in the news cycle between now and then. IOW, what, if anything, takes this storie's place.

  • Drake||

    Yep. And everyone's guns will still be in their closets. It's like taxes - only cool if they are taking somebody else's stuff.

  • ||

    Ordinarily I'd agree with you, but this time they've got a hill made of 20 dead kindergarteners.

    Most of whom were dead because there weren't any concealed carrying teachers to fire back.

  • General Butt Naked||

    I'm just afraid Boner is gonna give 'em mag restrictions or something for a promise to cut PBS in 20 years.

    I hate that orange motherfucker.

  • Paul.||

    As far as I'm concerned, if the Dems want to die on the gun control hill again, fine by me. I have the feeling there's a lot of pissed of Tea Party bitter clinger types spoiling for a fight, and this one will suit them just fine.

    I hope you're right, RC, but my natural state of pessimism thinks you may be wrong. Biden 2016!

  • ||

    United States falling behind in video game consumption compared to Australia, England, Canada, France and South Korea.

    DEY TUK UR NERDZ!!1!

    Seriously, I would not be surprised if there were a correlation between high computer/video game consumption and high concentration of STEM talent. But, yeah, let's go after nerds playing with (and sometimes creating!) cool technology. That sounds like a fan-fucking-tastic way to Win The Future.

  • nicole||

    Dagny, we already had to deal with abortion and circumcision threads today (AT THE SAME TIME), and now you have to go and bring up the dread STEM acronym as well? Thanks a lot. Let me guess: you're a nerd too. And you've probably even played a video game.

  • Auric Demonocles||

    Nicole, let me mansplain something to you: STEM is one of the fields that men go into so that they can earn more money than women, which is possible since they are fundawomentally incapable of handling critical thinking. However, you should like STEM anyway, because it gives you cool stuff like hi-tech hairdryers and better smart phone apps for sharing gossip.

  • ||

    Good mansplaining.

  • ||

    MANSPLANATION! damn it! Give us an edit button!

  • ||

    Not a current gamer, but I was just thinking that historynerd game sounded kind of cool. I think I hide any Aspie-ish tendencies fairly well, though.

  • ||

    It does, doesn't it? It might be as fun as my beloved Total War series.

  • ||

    Total War needs to earn my love back. Empire was mediocre and Shogun was beautiful, but not a leap forward either. Rome II better kick some serious ass.

  • Jordan||

    Well, the trailer was awesome as hell. Although there was no gameplay, it reminded me of HBO's Rome series which died far too young.

  • ||

    Are you stupid? Empire was great. You're stupid.

  • ||

    The battles were awesome. The management engine sucked donkey balls.

  • ||

    Now that I've looked up Rome 2, I'd better start saving for a new video card to render that motherfucker of a game.

  • Beezard||

    Ditto. It's gonna be tits. Big wobbly Carthaginian tits.

  • Tim||

    I played DOOM back in the day. People thought that was the end of the world. Look at it now, it's slightly less lames than Super Mario Brothers.

  • Zeb||

    There is nothing lame about Super Mario Brothers.

  • nicole||

    I think I hide any Aspie-ish tendencies fairly well, though.

    Psst, you're posting at H&R.

    Anyway, Farmville has made it safe for girls to be gamers without being geeks, or some bullshit like that.

  • John||

    Farmville is the ultimate girl video game. You get to find puppies and stray lambs. What says "girl" more than puppies?

  • nicole||

    I think the Sims (and, even more so, the Sims 2) is really the ultimate girl video game. You have a family and run a household! You have babies and a job! And your babies can even look like a combination of you and the dude you made them with! And their babies will look like them! And you have a career! Pets! A butter churn! YOU CAN HAVE IT ALL!

  • ||

    And don't forget, you can rearrange the furniture endlessly.

  • Paul.||

    And don't forget, you can rearrange the furniture endlessly.

    Girls have men to do that.

  • ||

    But with the Sims, they can do it themselves and never have to put out in return.

  • ||

    When does the killing start, nicole? There's killing, right? There has to be. Right?

  • John||

    I don't think there is any explicit sex either Episiarch. If you can't kill people and have explicit virtual sex, it might as well be real life.

  • nicole||

    It is not explicit but there is an animation with sound.

    There's also a hot tub, and you can do it in the hot tub.

    And did I mention the CLOTHES???

  • nicole||

    Oh, you can kill them off in various ways. You can also make them wet themselves, which is significantly funnier.

    And if you kill them they might come back as ghosts.

  • ||

    So if there's killing, why is there any of that other stuff? I don't get it.

  • nicole||

    Well, Epi, when a mommy and a daddy love each other very much, they get together and hug naked so they can have a baby.

    When mommy isn't ready to risk her life for the joy of changing diapers and wiping noses for the next few years, she can get the Sims.

  • Jordan||

    The Sims is fun as hell, even for those who want a murder simulator. I built a giant house that had a bunch of open rooms along the wall and would lure neighbors into them and then wall them off. I had an entire prison filled up with people slowly starving to death and pissing themselves.

    When I was dirt poor, I romanced and married a really rich woman, and then when she went for a swim one day I deleted the ladder. I inherited her giant mansion.

    And then there's the ole' trick of waiting for someone to start cooking, then walling them off and filling the room with flammable materials. Good times.

  • nicole||

    I was always a fan of getting married, hiring a male maid, getting knocked up by him, and then getting my husband knocked up by aliens.

  • ||

    Did you kill any aliens? I'm so confused.

  • John||

    I built a giant house that had a bunch of open rooms along the wall and would lure neighbors into them and then wall them off. I had an entire prison filled up with people slowly starving to death and pissing themselves.

    Let me guess, you got your cheat codes and strategy guides from Warty.

  • Tim||

    heh.

  • John||

    That is true nicole. I never thought of it that way but the SIMs is nothing but a digital doll house.

  • Archduke Pantsfan||

    I made lesbians

  • Paul.||

    I made lesbians

    So did I, I got married.

  • $park¥||

    What says "girl" more than puppies?

    Guys gushing over them.

  • Jordan||

    Just a heads up: Dynasty Warriors is shit. Play Crusader Kings and other games made by Paradox Entertainment if you want good history games.

  • Archduke Pantsfan||

    Europa Universalis is a sweet game. Lots going on though.

  • Jordan||

    Oh, and the Civilization series.

  • Omni||

    I wasted chunks of my life on Civilization 2

  • $park¥||

    if you want good history games.

    Fuck that noise. Do they let me control an unstoppable juggernaut of a warrior slashing through hundreds of peon with a single swing?

  • SugarFree||

    I am against circumcising abortions.

  • Tim||

    The poll tested position. Thank you Senator.

  • SugarFree||

    I just felt like someone should finally take a stand.

  • ||

    You're against all those things everybody hates, right?

  • SugarFree||

    Yes, I am against you.

  • ||

    I would certainly hope so.

  • Hugh Akston||

    You're wrong again nicole. There are no chick gamers, just like there are no chick libertarians.

  • ||

    Shut up, Hugh. You leave Deanna alone.

  • nicole||

    But then...WHO AM I?!?

  • Dr. Frankenstein||

    Jean Val-Jean?

  • SugarFree||

    "So, you're one of those 'Don't call me a chick' chicks, huh?"

  • BakedPenguin||

    BONESTORM II: THE BLOODENING

  • ||

    Of course it is. Every nerd gets into computers because video games are awesome, and what is more awesome than killing shit?

  • nicole||

    Shoes. Obvs.

  • ||

    ONLY IF THEY SPARKLE

  • ||

    You're thinking of vampires.

  • ||

    Raping?

  • Tim||

    THAT'S NOT FUNNY.

  • $park¥||

    "Well, it's been awhile since we had a little cuddle."
    "I raped ya, if that's what you mean."
    "Okay. It was half-cuddle, half-rape."

  • ||

    Carl: What the hell? No, no, no, no, no... Bad boy, bad boy. You live over there. Go... go back to the freaks.

    Handbanana: Who you callin' boy? My name is Handbanana.

    Carl: Wha... You talkin' to me here or...

    Handbanana: No, not anymore. [slams door] We're done talking.

    Carl: Hang on, let me bend over and pick this thing up. [Handbanana rapes Carl] Handbanana, no!

  • ||

    A link for those of you who haven't seen the glory that is Hanbanana.

  • $park¥||

    I can't believe you ruined Yellowbeard with that garbage.

  • Paul.||

    Raping raping, or just raping?

  • ||

    I always assumed the guys who did networking got into that for faster porn.

  • ||

    The guys who do networking are too busy LARPing to worry about porn download speeds.

  • ||

    Funny how they all have to play ogres, trolls, and dwarves.

  • Paul.||

    The guys who do networking are too busy LARPing to worry about porn download speeds.

    I resemble that remark. Actually, as an ex-career software developer who's now half-way through his networking career, the guys in networking are the least LARPing type guys I've ever worked with. That was really a developer thing. Sorry Episiarch, I mean Star Child.

  • ||

  • $park¥||

    And how many kids in the US are dying at their computers from gaming for six days straight? What kind of commitment does that show? We're seriously falling behind here.

  • ||

    And our dance teams are terrible!

  • Zeb||

    Maybe in 1990. Video game playing is pretty universal now, isn't it?

    Personally, I'd generally rather stare at a white wall than play video games. And I am good in STEM stuff.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    I planted crops last spring because of Farmville.

  • ||

    Farmville is definitely an abomination that must be banned. You're probably a mass murderer.

  • ||

    He's worse, he's a juggalo.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    I'm just a juggalo, and everywhere I go, people know the part I'm playing.

  • ||

    There will come a day
    taste will pass away
    then what will they say
    about magnets

  • Tim||

    When the end comes I know
    he was just a Juggalo
    LIFE GOES ON WITHOUT ME.

  • $park¥||

    When the end comes I'll know
    That I'm just a juggalo
    Life's better off without me.

  • Tim||

    yours is better.

  • Solanum||

    I burnt a midget to death last night because I've been playing Borderlands 2.

  • BakedPenguin||

    Did you discuss explosives with a hyperactive 13-year-old girl?

  • Translucent Chum||

    Hum. How many millions of copies of Battlefied, CoD, Halo, etc have been sold? How many mass murders?

  • Restoras||

    Conservatively those games have sold 50 million copies. Probably closer to 100 million copies, especially if you throw in Grand Theft Auto.

  • Hugh Akston||

    Dude, those are military games. We all know that killing shit when you're in the military isn't murder, it's service to your nation.

    It's only games like Katamari Damacy and Wii Tennis that turn people into murders.

  • ||

    Black Ops 2 made $500,000,000 in 24 hours. Even being generous with movie ticket prices, that is far better than any opening day box office pull.

  • Tman||

    Judging by the fact that teenage violent crimes are down over the last twenty years considerably, perhaps we should be commending video games for providing a virtual-reality harmless release to kids who may be more apt to shoot up a school without one.

    It makes at least as much sense as blaming video games for the same problems.

  • iggy||

    Crime is also down while gun ownership has skyrocketed. And England's overall violent crime rate is now five times what ours is.

    Gun control works.

  • ||

    For 2012, the violent crime rate for the US is slightly below 400, and about 2,350 for the UK. Awesome!

  • John||

    What is the violent crime rate in kindergartens RPA? What about the children? What about Newtown there smart guy?

  • Auric Demonocles||

    What is the violent crime rate in kindergartens ,using only guns, RPA?

    Had to fix that.

  • ||

    Funny thing is, John, if you've ever had experience with British schools, you'll know how fucked up shit is over there. You want to see schoolyard violence and downright sadistic bullying? Welcome to Europe!

  • John||

    I am not surprised. I have seen the drunken yobs running around Prague. I can't imagine they made for pleasant school mates. There is a reason why they used to beat them so much in British schools. They deserved it.

  • R C Dean||

    It makes at least as much sense as blaming video games for the same problems.

    You've at least got correlation on your side.

    The guntards packing sand in their vaginas can't point to one single correlation (never mind causation) in support of their positions.

    Gun ownership up, violent crime rate down.

    Gun free zones increase, massacres in gun free zones up.

    Gun ownership up, mass killings flat to down.

    Whereas, overseas, nothing increases your violent crime rate like a gun ban.

  • The Other Kevin||

    Let's not forget, the investigation is ongoing and we still haven't heard the full story. But don't let that stop anyone from laying the blame on something they've been against all along.

  • Loki||

    Uhg. It might be time to get my young male, violent video game playing, action movie watching ass out of CO. Our governor's clearly a dipshit.

  • Brandon||

    Our governor has been a dipshit since before he was Mayor Dipshit. But he finally fucked up bad enough with the pot law opposition that he'll be out in 14.

  • ||

    So what this article has reaffirmed is that prohibitionists are fucking morons, and that Limey prohibitionists are extra retarded fucking morons.

    Time to slay some Redcoats in AC III.

  • Tim||

    You mean Britons? HATE CRIMINAL!

  • ||

    OUTRAGE! CENSURE! ARREST! IMPRISONMENT!

    That's what actually happens to people in Britain who use words classified by the government as "abusive", starting with "raghead" and ending with "yid".

  • Loki||

    Just resist the inevitable urge to go out and murder redcoats for real.

  • ||

    Don't fucking tell me what to fucking do. I'm a man on the fucking edge! *Twitch*

    DIE REDCOAT DIE DIE DIE.

  • ||

    Have you explored the Underground Tunnels in New York City yet? There's some sort of Matrix-glitch room in there that fucks up my whole game. But I need to get through there to get to a fast travel station.

  • nicole||

    I was exploring them last night and ran around a shitload but never found more than the two entrances that had been part of the main quest. I've been around like 1/3 of the city, based on the map, and only came across 2/11 fast travel stations. Didn't get to any room that fucked my game up, fortunately.

  • ||

    When you get to certain intersections (like 3-tunnel or 4-tunnel) they have signs over the doorways saying which way they lead. The tunnel that goes to the Brewery is the one that leads to craziness. It's got two platforms, and you have to do some parkour to get to the other one, but there is clearly something wrong with the rendering or programming, as half of the walls are glowing green. Also, you put the lantern down on one platform and if you get to the other platform, the lantern teleports over!

    I didn't think too much of it beyond the original strangeness, but a few more turns down from there I tried to pick up a powderkeg to blow something up and my screen went gray and the speakers blew out, making every sound in the game about 4-5 times louder.

  • Zeb||

    Jesus, where do you people find time for these games? DO you just never sleep, or what?

  • ||

    Save time by not folding clean laundry, vacuuming, or doing other general cleaning duties besides the ones that eliminate bad smells and germs.

  • General Butt Naked||

    Save time by not folding clean laundry, vacuuming, or doing other general cleaning duties besides the ones that eliminate bad smells and germs.

    It's funny you say that, the guy I know that is most into gaming always reeks.

    He's so into it, that that is all he talks about. I tell him I don't care or know what he's rambling on about, but he persists.

  • General Butt Naked||

    I know a bunch of people that game, and I have no idea where they get the time. I barely have enough time to feed myself.

    I'm also really bad at time management.

  • nicole||

    Well, my blog is woefully unupdated, so there's that.

    Thanks for the info, gB. I haven't seen the green glow, although I did have an issue in Boston with a platform where the lantern followed me down and then I couldn't get it back up, and had to walk around in the dark to the next exit. Fun fact: if you walk around the tunnels without your lantern, you won't learn any of the map, even though you can still see the walls.

  • ||

    The part that's been most confusing is building the homestead. I just want to craft some badass stuff and I can't figure out how those dumb citizens level up.

    Also, Connor has to be THE most annoying of all the potential characters they could've made an assassin. Maybe it's the script, maybe the voice actor. But damn it, man, there is more at stake here than your petty quest for vengeance!!! Let some things develop before demanding the whereabouts of such-and-such Templar!!!!!!!1111!11!1 (I'm mad)

  • nicole||

    Oh I hate Connor. He is freaking awful. The voice is the worst.

    I was really into the crafting, as I always am, but it's actually kind of disappointing because the economy in the game makes less than zero sense. But the way you level up the guys is by doing "homestead quests," which you've probably done some of if you have the guys at your homestead already. Anyway, the availability of the homestead quests depends on which "sequence" you are in. So if the map runs out of homestead quest icons, you have to advance in the main quest before more appear and you can level the guys up more. Mine are totally leveled up now at sequence 10, I think.

  • ||

    Sometimes I go hide amongst the crowd and call my band of merry assassins to do my bidding. It's awesome seeing them scamper along the buildings and just drop down on some hapless redcoat.

  • nicole||

    I like starting riots.

  • Jordan||

    Don't have kids.

  • Omni||

    I just finished finding all the stations in Boston, about halfway through the NY ones. I didn't encounter this glitch, but thanks for the warning.

    Pretty close to 100% now. All I need is maybe 3-4 items on the club challenges finished up, and then replay the sequences I didn't get full synch on and that's it.

    You know what bug pisses me off?! There's a MAJOR spoiler in the Animus database if you actually read them that spoils the major plot twist near the end of the game, in the form of an update in Connor's mother's profile that you weren't supposed to get yet but you did (at the end of sequence 3).

    I also agree, I don't like Connor. He's such a monotone, Native American stereotype sounding, ungratful brat. For all the training the Assassin's gave him, he doesn't seem to care dick about them, just "my people".

  • John||

    Nothing to do with the thread, but my wife is a big watcher of Big Bang Theory. I never watched it much but I finally noticed last night, my God Melissa Rauch is cute. The adorable knob goes to 12.

  • Translucent Chum||

    Is that the 4 foot tall girl with the squeaky voice and huge rack?

  • John||

    Yes. The little blond.

  • tarran||

  • John||

    She just has a spectacular body.

  • Translucent Chum||

    I have been playing some World of Tanks online and I am really itching to see what I could do by myself in real life with a tank that requires five crewmen. Anyone have a working M48 gathering dust?

  • John||

    There used to be a show in the Military Channel called Tank Overall. Judging from the show, more people have that kind of thing than you think.

    I have to admit, if I won the lottery, a demilled M48 or even Sherman and a big tract of land to drive it on, would be money well spent.

  • R C Dean||

    I think you forgot the scare quotes (wink, nod) around "demilled".

  • Translucent Chum||

    I'd like half a day to play around with the mini-gun ATVs they have for defense at the nuclear storage sites.

  • John||

    HMMWV with a MK 19 mounted on the top. What says awesome more than "automatic grenade launcher"?

  • BakedPenguin||

    I have to admit, if I won the lottery, a demilled M48 or even Sherman and a big tract of land to drive it on, would be money well spent.

    You might not even need to win the lottery. They go for about $3-400,000 or so, but in this economy, you could probably offer 200k.

  • John||

    But I have to have the land and the money to do the maintenance on them.

  • ||

    OT:

    "In the wake of last week's shooting in Newtown, Conn., the National Rifle Association went silent — almost.

    While the NRA has not responded to media inquiries and stopped all social media activity, NRA News, a show owned and operated by the NRA, has continued to broadcast online. The topic of the broadcasts has been the Newtown shooting, and hosts and guests alike have said directly that the shooting should not be blamed on guns."

    NRA broadcasters make reasonable statement; pinko media outlet gets prissy and outraged about it.

    Fuck off, slavemakers.

  • John||

    They shut down there social media because it was being overwhelmed with death threats to the NRA leadership and members by enlightened tolerant liberals who are outraged by the thought of murder.

  • General Butt Naked||

    Can you believe the outright calls to violence among many in the left over this? And not for anyone responsible (he's dead), but law abiding people that have nothing to do with it. It's fucking sickening.

    Could you imagine if the situation was reversed and conservatives were calling for members of a liberal rights organization to be murdered?

    Also, they are unarmed so they expect someone else to do their dirty work, fucking cowards.

  • ||

    They're going extra FULL RETARD because they think they have an opportunity here because it's children. Yes, they are that disgusting.

  • General Butt Naked||

    I am usually an equal opportunity TEAM hater, but this shit is making me rethink that. It's just so fucking reprehensible, this standing atop this pile of dead kids and clamoring for violence (not to mention the part about taking innocent people's rights away).

  • ||

    The loudest clamoring is from the ones too craven to actually draw blood. Their desperate hope is that someone else will do it for them.

  • John||

    They are just disgusting brownshirts. All the need is the opportunity to commit violence where they think they can get away with it, or better yet get someone else to do it for them. What happens when some deranged fuck actually hurts someone in the NRA or such?

  • General Butt Naked||

    What happens when some deranged fuck actually hurts someone in the NRA or such?

    The media will paint the perpetrator as a right-wing maniac, and say the victim would have wanted tighter gun control laws.

  • Loki||

    What happens when some deranged fuck actually hurts someone in the NRA or such?

    Then they'll be doing God's Gaia's work by refusing to tolerate intolerance. Because as all smart people with the RIGHT VIEWS know feel, only intolerant racist right wing tea-baggers are gun owners.

  • A Serious Man||

    They're playing it smart by not be drawn into a flame-war with the gun grabbers.

  • Archduke Pantsfan||

    Just heard they are planning a press conf on Fri.

  • General Butt Naked||

    Did you read the statement they released?

    NRA says it is 'prepared to offer meaningful contributions to help make sure this never happens again'

    This worries me.

  • Zeb||

    Yeah. If that is their actual statement, they aren't getting any more money out of me. I'll find the gun rights org that is honest and says that there is no way to make sure this never happens again.

  • General Butt Naked||

    From their website:

    The National Rifle Association of America is made up of four million moms and dads, sons and daughters - and we were shocked, saddened and heartbroken by the news of the horrific and senseless murders in Newtown.

    Out of respect for the families, and as a matter of common decency, we have given time for mourning, prayer and a full investigation of the facts before commenting.

    The NRA is prepared to offer meaningful contributions to help make sure this never happens again.

    The NRA is planning to hold a major news conference in the Washington, DC area on Friday, December 21.

    Details will be released to the media at the appropriate time.
  • Marshall Gill||

    Scott, the alt-link wasn't bad except for one thing. This is a monocle and top hat wearing libertarian site. Nothing is required for each and every one of us to spend, at least a few minutes a day, plotting the unification of some fractured Asian nation under a corporate State which we control.

  • $park¥||

    Any of you geeks checked out Firefall yet?

  • John||

    HAs anyone played the Starcraft sequel? Back in ancient times Starcraft was a fun game. Always wondered if the sequel was as good or if they fucked it up.

  • Jordan||

    It's excellent. Very faithful to the original.

  • John||

    I might have to pick that up and lose a week or two of my life.

  • Omni||

    I can say that I've been playing the most violent games out there since I was a kid, and I've never been in so much as a fist fight. In fact, it helps me get out my aggressions at times.

    For pure, sadistic fun I always go with The Force Unleashed or it's sequel as a fully upgraded Jedi. Toying with the stormtroopers is fun.

  • Jeff||

    Dynasty Warriors fucking rules.

  • Jeff||

    brb, musou attacking some school children

  • waaminn||

    lol, Ther eis only ONE thing to blame, "gun free zones". Had ONE person at that school been armed, lives would have been saved!

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