Environmentalist Money Buys Elections

OK, the headline is a bit snarky. But the Washington Post is reporting that various environmentalist lobbying groups spent tens of millions on campaigns to help elect candidates that they liked and defeat some that they didn't. From the Post:

For years, environmentalists have been seen as marginal players in presidential and congressional elections.

That may have changed this week.

The environmental community scored a string of successes Tuesday in states ranging from New Mexico to Montana to Texas, winning seven out of eight targeted Senate races and at least three, and possibly four, of their targeted House races. Although plenty of outside groups poured money into these contests, even some fossil fuel industry representatives said environmentalists invested their resources wisely in 2012....

The League of Conservation Voters spent more than $14 million this year, more than it had in the past three election cycles combined, and groups including the Sierra Club, National Wildlife Federation Action Fund, Defenders of Wildlife Action Committee, Environment America and Natural Resources Defense Council Action Fund also devoted money and volunteers to key contests.

Among other races, the Post credits millions in campaign funding from environmentalist lobbying groups for helping re-elect Democrat Sen. Jon Tester in Montana, and defeating GOP climate change skeptics Reps. Reps. Francisco “Quico” Canseco (Tex.) and Ann Marie Buerkle (N.Y.).

Earlier this year, the League of Conservation Voters (remember $14 million) ran a campaign to try to get the Citizens United ruling that took off the political restraints against free speech overturned. The LCV asserted:

The Supreme Court’s disastrous ruling in the Citizens United case opened the flood gates for corporations to spend vast sums of money in support of candidates who stand with them and against the public interest.

Now some people (unnamed) might think that the Citizens United decision "opened the flood gates for environmentalist lobbyists to spend vast sums," etc. Actually the decision simply opened the flood gates to free speech. Given their successes, perhaps the Green lobby will now stop trying to stifle other people's free speech. OK, OK, I'm a cock-eyed optimist, but one can hope anyway.

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  • John Thacker||

    All these "return on investment" stories are pretty stupid. Basically, the Dems won almost all the swing races. Most money went into swing races. Therefore, any analysis will find that Democratic money had a high rate of return, and Republican money had a poor rate of return.

    Which isn't really a good way to measure political rate of return, anyway. Michele Bachmann won, but sucked up tons of Republican money that could have been used elsewhere.

  • Pro Libertate||

    Maybe that's why I didn't vote for any Democrats. They didn't send me any money.

  • LTC(ret) John||

    Me neither, what the heck?!

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Shouldn't they be buying regulators at this point?

  • LTC(ret) John||

    "at this point"

    They haven't already?

  • tarran||

    They don't need to.

    The people who apply for jobs at the EPA aren't the sort of person who looks at a steel mill and says, "That steel mill makes it possible for us to have nice things and for women to expect to survive all their pregnancies."

    The type of person who works for the EPA is far more likely to be the type of person who looks at a steel mill and says "OMG! Gaia is being raped!"

  • T o n y||

    Because you know so many of them?

  • ||

    Sorry Tony, but I think that your comment is posted on wetlands. You'll have to pay $37,500 a day until it's removed.

  • ||

    +1 duck

  • OldMexican||

    Re: Tony,

    Because you know so many of them?

    It's a logical conclusion, Tony.

    Like asking: What kind of person would aply for a job that allows him or her to rape people's property rights? Besides a sociopathic thief, it would be a sociopathic environmentalist wacko.

    Simple.

  • T o n y||

    You don't believe in property rights. You don't believe in government. The government I actually believe in protects both property rights and the environment, which is the place people where locate their property, generally.

  • T o n y||

    Excuse the dyslexic moment.

  • ||

    By turning "I" into "you"? You're excused.

  • Generic Stranger||

    Probably the single most disgustingly arrogant thing about progressives is their insistence that they know what other people actually believe better than they do.

  • VG Zaytsev||

    I think the single most disgustingly arrogant thing about progressives their insistence that they know what is in other people's best interest better than those other people do.

  • Generic Stranger||

    It's kind of the same thing. They think they know better because people who AREN'T Progressives have "false consciences" and thus they don't REALLY believe that they do. No, that's just programming that the PATRIARCHY/BIG BUSINESS/RACISTS have inserted into their brain, because they are weak and can't think for themselves.

    Unless they fit the progressive's views of an evil person, then their stated reasons for believing what they do is a lie and it's really because of "insert ridiculously offensive reason [racism, greed, misogyny] here".

  • John||

    Yes Tony. I know a lot of them. I worked at EPA in law school. I practiced environmental law for years. That is exactly what they think.

  • T o n y||

    Well, Gaia is being raped. If by Gaia you mean the environment we live in and by raped you mean significantly negatively affected with respect to human beings' way of life.

    The reasonable position here isn't "human polluting activity doesn't change the environment."

  • wareagle||

    right...because natural resources should just be left alone and man should go back to living in caves, rubbing sticks to start fires, and die at age 35. Just stop.

  • General Butt Naked||

    Goalpost moving noted.

  • mad libertarian guy||

    Tony's shoulders must be epically huge.

  • OldMexican||

    Re: Tony,

    Well, Gaia is being raped.

    The Volcano God angry!

    If by Gaia you mean the environment

    No, he means the mystical being environmentalists light candles to.

    The reasonable position here isn't "human polluting activity doesn't change the environment."

    Of course not. The sensible position is "human activity changes the environment, just like the activity of every other living thing that steps on the earth. And that means nothing except to misanthropic zealots."

  • Fatty Bolger||

    Retreat! Retreat! Regroup on the moral high ground!

  • Hopfiend||

    Some reasonable questions then:

    what do you wish to do about these changes?

    How significant do you believe the changes are?

  • OldMexican||

    Re: Tony,

    You don't believe in property rights [as defended by government].

    There - more accurate.

    You don't believe in government.

    I believe government is here precisely to violate said rights. That's how it breathes, breeds and takes bread.

    The government I actually believe in protects both property rights and the environment

    In the same manner as some people believe in benevolent space aliens. Do go on, please; you still have 20 minutes of session left...

  • The Last American Hero||

    My wife works for our State's version of the EPA. The default position of her and most of her coworkers is that business owners are crooked SOB's out to take advantage of the proles and rape the Earth. These folks see themselves as the noble guardians of Gaia - so long as they can keep bankers hours, generous benefits, and what amounts to tenure at the State Agency. Not sure what happens if someone rapes the Earth on the weekend.

  • OldMexican||

    Yours must be some intense pillow talk. Do you play "EPA officer and businessman"?

  • nicole just can't even!||

    You know what I just realized? The best thing libertarians can actually do is probably to all be like Ron Swanson. We should all go get jobs at the EPA and then just do absolutely nothing.

  • The Last American Hero||

    Like most of my wife's co-workers.

  • ||

    I don't think I could ever handle working for the government. My coworkers and I just spent 15 minutes throwing shit at each other including a Cliff bar and a bag of coffee that we were specifically trying to get to break open when it hit and shower grounds on someone. Unfortunately, that someone was me, but there were still some left in the bag so I was able to spread the misery around some more.

    I doubt I could do that in a government office. And then of course there's the bureaucracy.

  • Ted S.||

    My coworkers and I just spent 15 minutes throwing shit at each other including a Cliff bar and a bag of coffee that we were specifically trying to get to break open when it hit and shower grounds on someone.

    Sounds like a fun job.

  • ||

    It makes up for the insane pace, constant changing of gears, and expectations of routinely performing tasks in hours or days that other places would allow weeks or months to do.

  • Lisa||

    You could still throw things at each other in a government office, just slightly different things, like a pork barrel and a bag of coffers.

  • C. Anacreon||

    nice

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    Do nothing like the Bush SEC did nothing?

    What could go wrong?

  • Calidissident||

    "Do nothing like the Bush SEC did nothing?"

    You can't possibly believe that. Are you actually that stupid?

  • ||

    It's a sockpuppet, it says things to make you respond to it. Don't.

  • Hyperion||

    Boooooooooooosh! Booooooooooosh! How fucking original, it's Booooooshes fault! Idiot.

  • John||

    You mean like all of the prosecutions that Obama has done in the last four years. The bank bust didn't happen until summer of 08. The prosucutions for it should have started happening in 09. But not a single person has ever been prosecuted over it. Contrast that to all of the people who went to jail under Bush for Enron and Worldcom and such.

    Yeah, Wall Street put their guy Obama in the White House to make sure no one went to jail over the biggest fraud in history.

    Now go back in your hole you demented little fuck.

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    Biggest fraud in history?

    WTF are you talking about?

  • John||

    The 2008 banking collapse you ratarded little fuck. You know what I am talking about.

    Read this you illiterate little fuck.

    http://www.sigtarp.gov/Quarterly Reports/July_25_2012_Report_to_Congress.pdf

    You think the banks collapse on their own? You don't think there was any fraud? My God you are dishonest piece of shit. Face it, Obama is Wall Street's guy. Not a single person has been prosecuted over the biggest bank collapse in history. Go back in in your hole and admit you support a fucking crook who is looting the country.

  • John||

    What fraud?

    SIGTARP has found in some of its criminal investigations that the financial
    crisis was a crossroads for many bank executives, particularly those at regional or
    community banks, whose business models focused predominantly on real estate
    loans. Thousands of bank executives faced bank losses during the financial crisis
    without turning to fraud. Those bank executives told the truth about losses and
    non-performing loans and adequately reserved for future losses or wrote off losses.
    Others turned to crime. For some bankers committing fraud, the sudden availability
    of TARP funds was seen as a way to play the float in concealing past due loans as
    bankers waited for a market upturn. These bankers viewed the financial crisis as an
    opportunity to extend their fraud by exploiting our nation’s vulnerability

    Die you little fucking retard. Just die. You are nothing but a waste of space.

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    TARP was the Bushpigs solution, you asswipe.

  • John||

    REad the report. Fraud was everywhere. No one but a few low level people ever were prosecuted. Who the fuck administered TARP aswipe? Obama. And he sucks wall street's cock almost as much as you suck his. God you are fucking boil on humanity.

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    John, you idiot. The Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission report never mentioned fraud.

    Maybe the report on wingnut.com did.

  • Calidissident||

    Didn't Obama vote for TARP? It's pathetic how much you try to defend him

  • VG Zaytsev||

    Didn't Obama vote for TARP?

    Yeah, but only because booosh told him to.

  • Mickey Rat||

    Don't you know that Senator Obama is a different peerson than President Obama? The President cannot be held accountable for what the Senator did.

  • LTC(ret) John||

    Corzine ring a bell?

  • Bill Dalasio||

    Yeah, like not prosecuting a guy who co-mingled client funds with firm money. Oh, wait, that was under Obama. I guess it pays to have been a political crony and major bundler.

  • ||

    This is somewhat of my intent, Nicole. Though it wouldn't be the EPA, and for somewhat different reasons.

  • Brutus||

    We can surf midget porn on our workstations.

  • Fatty Bolger||

    I've thought about it. But when I was younger I worked for the census bureau (in the offices, not taking the census) and did some temporary jobs for city government. If you care even one little bit about how things are done, it's awful.

  • Hopfiend||

    If you don't like your job, you don't strike. You just go in every day and do it really half-assed. That's the American way.

  • Sudden||

    "OMG! Gaia is being raped!"

    Well, considering they're usually sticking a long shaft into the Earth, I can see why they think this.

  • OldMexican||

    The League of Conservation Voters spent more than $14  million this year, more than it had in the past three election cycles combined, and groups including the Sierra Club, National Wildlife Federation Action Fund, Defenders of Wildlife Action Committee, Environment America and Natural Resources Defense Council Action Fund also devoted money and volunteers to key contests.

    Wow! Talk about the 1 percenters! That's a lot of dough to spend!

  • Brutus||

    And they moaned day and night about Citizens United, while taking ample advantage of the liberty it gave them.

  • The Late P Brooks||

    The LCV asserted:

    The Supreme Court’s disastrous ruling in the Citizens United case opened the flood gates for corporations to spend vast sums of money in support of candidates who stand with them and against the public interest.

    I wonder where the money donated by "League" members came from.

    I sure hope it didn't come from the salaries of people who work for evil kkkorporations. Because that money is tainted.

  • Paul.||

    NPR reported a couple of days ago that a mere 32% of all the PAC money spent won its targeted election.

    Because we "know" that Karl Rove's Crossroads GPS spent most of the PAC money, we can also conclude that the majority of money lost in total dollars as well.

    I never want to hear another bitch about Citizens for as long as I live.

    IN fact, it's another reason why not only the Obama victory has a positive side, but the sweeping victories by Citizens haters has a positive side: They can shut the fuck up now because they were demonstrably wrong.

  • ||

    They aren't "wrong" because their entire point was to shut down the other TEAM. They never had a principled argument in the first place. They thought that they would benefit more from restricting speech, so they advocated for it.

    They'll never shut up as long as they feel this particular restriction in speech would benefit them more than the other TEAM. Get used to it.

  • Paul.||

    Get used to it.

    The used-to-er I get, the more my ass hurts.

  • ||

    Dennis: (to Mac) There's nothing you can do about taxes.

    Dee: Uh, you guys might wanna think about voting every once in a while.

    Dennis: What has voting ever done?

    Charlie: Wha—since—what is—why are you coming dow—voting?

    Dennis: Who am I supposed to vote for? Am I supposed to vote for the—the Democrat who's going to blast me in the ass or the Republican who's blasting my ass?

    Mac: You see, politics is all just one big ass-blast.

  • Paul.||

    They should make a movie starring Matt Damon called Enema of the State.

  • ||

    There has to be a porn with that title, I'm sure.

  • Brutus||

    I'm almost afraid to google it.

    Almost: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enema_of_the_State

    It's a punk album.

  • Killazontherun||

    A DeadPool mini series does.

  • C. Anacreon||

    Yep. And now the Dems in CA say one of their priorities with the new supermajority is to "change the state's initiative process" to "prevent millionaires from getting inappropriate initiatives on the ballot."

    In other words, they want to set it up so that people have no alternative to their delightful monolithic rule.

    And people at work are loving this, walking around beaming like they are getting married tomorrow. One said "now that we finally got rid of all Republican influence, we can fix this state and get out of this recession."

  • Paul.||

    Among other races, the Post credits millions in campaign funding from environmentalist lobbying groups for helping re-elect Democrat Sen. Jon Tester in Montana, and defeating GOP climate change skeptics Reps. Reps. Francisco “Quico” Canseco (Tex.) and Ann Marie Buerkle (N.Y.).

    Ok, so some environmentalists won some elections. And I specifically see "Climate Change" mentioned.

    I've said it before, I'll say it again: Obama has single-handedly done more damage to the AGW/Climate Change/Global Warming movement than any other politician in the last 15 years. He clubbed it like a baby seal. It's dead. Obama gave the middle finger at that first Earth Summit and never looked back. Liberals the world over cried for about ten minutes, the media apologized and gnashed its teeth, and then the Cult of Obama quickly lined up behind him, learned to love 'flexibility' and threw ideology to the four winds.

    At this point, what does it really matter that the Environmentalists won a few endorsed elections? With Obama at the helm, I can pretty safely bet that it'll mean Jack Shit in actual policy.

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    Yep..

    Laissez-faire Obama let drilling increase 300% in the USA.

    That fucking statist!

  • Paul.||

    Shh, your fellow Obama supporters might hear... oh wait, they don't care about that stuff. They're about winning elections.

  • ||

    You have pretty low expectations for "laissez-faire". "OMG! Teh Overlord let up on one type of regulation! Take thet Rethuglicans! Who's concervative nao!"

  • Paul.||

    The "drilling" Shrike is referring to isn't drilling for oil drilling... it's another kind of drilling...

    *nods knowingly*

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    Hey, O&G drilling is going gangbusters here in the USA.

    Sorry, that is a fact.

    I know Fat Rush and Hannity deny it and spoonfeed false data to you (lies).

  • Randian||

    Nothing to do with Obama, except fir the gas increases incentivized increased exploration.

    Nice try.

  • wareagle||

    yes, drilling is occurring on PRIVATE land. On govt property, not so much.

  • John||

    http://thehill.com/blogs/e2-wi.....m-drilling

    Go fuck yourself and die Shreek.

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    http://www.usaprogressive.com/.....deral.html

    Stick this chart up your ass.

  • wareagle||

    oil leases and oil production are not synonymous. You're spinning, plugs; badly, but spinning.

  • ||

    I know Fat Rush and Hannity deny it and spoonfeed false data to you (lies).

    That you assume my response is in any way informed by those blowhards just shows what a horrid self-parody you are. My post obviously doesn't deny that drilling has increased. You know this, you just don't care. Face it, you're a dishonest shill.

  • Hyperion||

    At least you got one thing right, Obama is a fucking statist. That's why you love him so much.

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    And still better than the GOP.

  • Randian||

    Is that the standard for a Goldwater Republican now?

  • Hyperion||

    A better statist than the GOP? Maybe. But a statist, yes for sure. ALL progressives are control freak statist. Everyone knows that.

  • ||

    In state-speak, "better" means "more controlling".

  • Generic Stranger||

    You're still spreading that bullshit around? Obama had nothing to fucking do with it. He DECREASED drilling on federal lands. All the increases happened on private lands, where Obama had no fucking say, you pathetic little shit weasel.

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    That is a fucking lie. Production is up over 10% on federal land.

  • Randian||

    Not for gas it isn't.

    42% decrease in NEW federal drilling leases under Obama.

    8000 drilling permits (38%) pulled under Obama.

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    Fuck you, liar.

    Oil production on federal lands and offshore during the first three years of the Obama administration was 13 percent higher than from 2006 to 2008, according to new government data, though it did decrease somewhat between 2010 and 2011.

    http://fuelfix.com/blog/2012/0.....data-show/

  • ||

    Uh, you DO realize Randian's talking about natural gas, not gasoline, don't you?

  • Randian||

    Shrike is not that bright.

  • ||

    Well, it was a rather abrupt switch, since Stranger had been talking about oil.

  • Generic Stranger||

    Since 2008, there's been a net DECREASE of %9 for new leases, you fucking moron. Look at the raw stats yourself:

    2008: 2,416
    2009: 2,072
    2010: 1,308
    2011: 2,188

    Source

    There's been a decline in the overall number of leases for several years now:

    2008: 55,085
    2009: 53,431
    2010: 50,544
    2011: 49,173

    Source

    Again, for a total decline of 9%

    So no, leases have NOT increased under Obama, you fucking moron. Go peddle your bullshit elsewhere.

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    Idiot, production is up. That is all that matters.

    Oil companies that let leases expire should lose them.

  • wareagle||

    presidents can't control the rate of production, making your assertion about Obama intellectually dishonest, at best. An administration CAN effect permits and leases.

  • Generic Stranger||

    The government has nothing to do with production on the individual leases, you demented self-loathing inbred redneck. Production on individual leases depends on the companies who lease the lands. The only thing government can do to increase production is to increase the number of leases they sell, and they decidedly did not do that.

    Obama claiming credit for increased production on federal leases would be like a building owner claiming credit for the success of the company that rents it. They had absolutely fuck all to do with it.

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    Bullshit, you dumbass hick.

    To increase production you pull leases from deadbeat drillers who just sit on them.

    This is supply and demand 101, pal.

    PRODUCTION is way up. Fuck the "number of leases".

  • Generic Stranger||

    At best, pulling the leases from deadbeat drillers would give you a better production/lease ratio. It isn't going to increase the production of drillers actually using their leases, you fucking moron. In order for that to happen, the individual companies involve have to decide to open new wellheads and increase their own production and/or the government has to sell more leases to companies that actually intend to drill. So again, you're giving Obama credit for an increase in production he had nothing to fucking do with.

  • tres||

    The obama administration IS limiting access to drilling on federal lands. Increased production is IN SPITE of his teams actions.

    There would be tens of thousands new well paying jobs if the PRO-JOBS obama opened up the fed leases, yet he and his admin continue to tree fuck useless green energy and say fuck you to real energy.

    Go buy candles, asshole.

  • Brutus||

    Idiot, production is up. That is all that matters.

    Uh, no, it isn't. Production is up, but the number of leases is down. If the number of leases had remained constant, production would be up even more and supply would be even greater, dropping prices even more.

  • ||

    Oil companies that let leases expire should lose them.

    Why?

  • OldMexican||

    Re: Palin's Buttwipe,

    Idiot, production my convenient narrative is up. That is all that matters.

    There. More accurate.

  • Brutus||

    So why did he cut drilling on federal lands in half. He has no power to stop it on private land, where it's booming, so spare us the usual sack-licking, Shriek.

  • OldMexican||

    Re: Palin's Buttwipe,

    Laissez-faire Obama let drilling increase 300% in the USA.

    That fucking statist!

    The drilling is in private lands. The fact that there's more drilling here is not necessarily a good thing, as foreign oil is still cheap, labor overseas is still cheap, so the U.S. should still be importing the oil rather than using up resources producing it here. This is very likely malinvestment, it is yet another bubble fueled by Bernanke's printing machine - and before you start spewing nonsense, shriek, the "printing machine" is just metaphore. Obama has nothing to do with this nor is he hindering it, which makes your position that much more idiotic, shriek. There's more drilling no thanks to Obama.

  • The Late P Brooks||

    I never want to hear another bitch about Citizens for as long as I live.

    You don't think demonstrable proof will shut them up, do you?

    You obviously think Congress shall make no law has some sort of plain meaning, when in fact it is a murky intimation of a complex and mysterious Truth which can only be parsed by the finest legal minds possessed by incumbent Congressmen.

  • Paul.||

    You don't think demonstrable proof will shut them up, do you?

    You obviously think Congress shall make no law has some sort of plain meaning

    Jesus fuck, ok... you win.

    Way to fuck my friday up sideways. I'm trying to find some light in all of this and all I get from you guys is, "Abandon all hope..."

    They say things are always darkest before they go completely black...

  • Hyperion||

    This green shit is just really stupid. The world is just going to keep rolling on and right over top of these starry eyed tree huggers because there are profits to be made and if we are not going to make those profits here in the US, then China and other growing markets will make them.

    People are out to get their own first, and that is just human nature and it's not going to change.

    All of this is good for Libertarians. Obama winning is actually good. Not in the short term, but in the long term, most definitely. The GOP has to STFU about these social issues and concentrate on the economy and personal liberty. We won big in this election because the GOP got exactly what they deserved and 2 huge victories in WA and CO. It couldn't have went much better for Ls. Also, we got a new L leaning guy in congress from KY to at least replace RP, so that is good. Is Cruz a libertarian? I didn't think so, but someone said something to that effect...

    Ok, most of that wasn't related to this article, but I had to rant because I have been too busy to post last few days, someone has to pay for all of this free stuff Obama is promising afterall, and I finally just got to sit down at home with a beer.

  • Pro Libertate||

    I got an e-mail from the RLC today talking about the libertarian gains in Congress (e.g., election of Flake, Cruz, etc.). Actually pretty upbeat, which isn't that surprising, given the RLC's nonlove of Romney.

  • ||

    Plus voters thought that Romney would do better on the economy. So really people voted for Obama because he talks up social liberalism, and people voted for Romney because he talked up economic conservatism.

  • mad libertarian guy||

    Apparently his talk wasn't enough to convince anyone but those who are already deep red. There is NO REASON Romney should be believed when talking about fiscal conservatism.

  • The Late P Brooks||

    They thought that they would benefit more from restricting speech, so they advocated for it.

    Exactly. Everything you need to know about restrictions on political speech can be learned by closely observing who wants them most: incumbents and establishmentarians like the "Legacy" media gatekeepers.

    Fuck them.

  • mad libertarian guy||

    Everything you need to know about restrictions on political speech can be learned by closely observing who wants them most: incumbents and establishmentarians like the "Legacy" media gatekeepers.

    And academics.

    All three want to maintain their respective monopolies on political speech. That's why the emphasis is on "outside money."

  • The Late P Brooks||

    They should make a movie starring Matt Damon called Enema of the State.

    That sounds intrinsically paternalistic.

  • BarryD||

    Some of these groups are not "green" so much as animal-rights extremists, too.

  • Bingo||

    ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME????

    Dondero interviewed by NYMag. Goddamnit, why does that TEAM RED moron have to call himself a libertarian?

    Jesus christ.

  • Calidissident||

    I briefly read some of the comments on that blog post, and dear God is that guy delusional. At one point he called Romney a "libertarian-leaning capitalist" whose ideology could not be further apart from Obama's. Yeah. Right.

  • ||

    Thanks, fucking DONDERRRROOOOOO. The normals think we're you. Fucking fat whore-fucking chickenhawk child-molester moustached idiot.

  • tagtann||

    Well duh, it is the American way lol

    www.Geek-Anon.tk

  • Bingo||

    Worth reading just for the headline picture alone:

    I went to a female msturbation class

  • Brutus||

    If men reduced women to their sex organs the same way purported feminists do, they'd be strung up by their thumbs.

  • OldMexican||

    It's a good thing broads can't lift for shit. Right?

  • Brutus||

    There's always that tool of the Patriarchy, the block and tackle.

  • ||

    For no reason, DEVO.

  • Brutus||

    I am disppointed. I wanted to see "Mongoliod" or "Satisfaction," the latter of which is the best rock adaptation, ever.

  • Brutus||

    I lived in Akron at the height of Devo. A member of our group from work called the Mothersbaugh house (yeah, it was still in the Akron phonebook) and, when their mom answered, our friend asked, "Are we not men?" and Mother Mothersbaugh responded, "We are DEVO!"

  • ||

    That might be the best thing I've ever heard.

  • SKR||

    Yeah well, Alan Myers is my electrician.

  • ||

  • Coeus||

    Krugman has found his definition of austerity:

    And I think it’s worth pointing out that this isn’t just a Greece/Spain issue. If you look at the euro area as a whole, it has in effect been following drastic fiscal austerity with no offset on the monetary side. Here, from the IMF’s Fiscal Monitor, is one measure of the overall fiscal stance for the euro area, the cyclically adjusted primary surplus (that is, what the budget balance ignoring interest payments would be if the economy weren’t so depressed):

    So you can't take current revenues into account (lowered by years of massive government malinvestment) and you can't take into account the interest payments due from the massive malinvestiment.

    Brilliant. None of the costs of his horribly policy prescriptions actually count in his mind. So that of course means we should continue the policies. It finally makes sense. He's completely full of shit, but at least I've now got a handle on his warped logic.

  • Bingo||

    So any budget that falls short of what you would see in full-on economic boom times is austerity.

    Holy shit. So if we just budget like it's boom times, then boom times will come. Is Keynesianism revealing itself as a cargo cult?

  • John||

  • Brutus||

    Don't worry, those layoffs will be more than offset by the 400,000 jobs that Nancy Pelosi promised would be created by Obamacare.

    What she forgot to mention is that they'll be created in Mexico, just across the border, at free-market clinics tending to gringos fleeing The Master Plan.

  • Bingo||

    I got an idea! We'll just create a Layoff Tax so that businesses can't get around this "loophole" in ObamaCare.

    Surely that will fix the economy. Full employment!

  • Nigel M||

    HAI GAIS:

    the owner of America’s largest privately-owned coal corporation who made his coal workers take unpaid day off to attend Romney Fundraiser just fired those employees.

    But he prayed for them first, so we're cool.

  • A Serious Man||

    Yes, I'm sure that has nothing to do with Obama's unrelenting hostility towards coal.

  • Almanian 1||

    yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawn

  • ||

    So?

  • C. Anacreon||

    I'll bet seven years from now one of those workers' wife will die, and it will be Romney's fault.

  • Fatty Bolger||

    Sure would be nice if the New Republic put even half this effort into investigating any one of Obama's many under-reported scandals over the last several years.

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