Rand Paul Amendment to Stop Armed FDA Agents From Raiding Farms Fails, 78-15

The amendment Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) introduced yesterday to demilitarize the FDA failed in the Senate today by a vote of 78-15. 

Paul's amendment would have prohibited FDA employees (as well as all other Health and Human Services employees) from carrying weapons and making arrests without warrants. 

"We have nearly 40 federal agencies that are armed. I’m not against having police, I’m not against the army, the military, the FBI, but I think bureaucrats don’t need to be carrying weapons and I think what we ought to do, is if there is a need for an armed policeman to be there, the FBI who are trained to do this should do it," Paul said yesterday on the Senate floor. "But I don’t think it’s a good idea to be arming bureaucrats to go on the farm to, with arms, to stop people from selling milk from a cow." 

The amendment would also have allowed the makers of prune juice to advertise that their products help relieve constipation. 

...And here's the roll call, which features zero Democrats in favor of ending armed raids on American farmers

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  • John||

    So there are 15 Senators are not completely insane? Well that is about 13 more than I thought there were. So there is that.

  • db||

    John, you just don't get it. There are 15 Senators who are alarmingly soft on crime, and 7 whose allegiances are highly suspect.

  • Stormy Dragon||

    No, we've just identified the number of senators getting donations from fruit juice lobbyists.

  • ||

    No, no, no...getting donations from the incontinence lobby. You know who I mean!

  • ||

    I guess you prefer people dying from raw milk John.

  • John||

    Raw milk and failed folk remedies for constipation

  • BJB||

    C'mon of course nobody prefers people dying. People do prefer, however, the OPTION to KNOWINGLY and WILLINGLY buy raw milk from a supplier who tell you as such. If I want to drink raw milk, let me. Don't point a gun at me while telling my you know better than me. What the hell is that about. Freedom???????

  • ||

    I was just ribbing John for his comment in another thread that anybody who opposes drone strikes prefers American soldiers to die.

  • BJB||

    Got it.

  • Randy Bottoms||

    Face! Floor!

  • Mo' $parky||

    So like I said earlier, you can see what kind of opposition there is to rational thought and why Rand Paul will never be president.

  • Almanian's Evil Twin||

    78-15

    DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMED

  • Almanian's Evil Twin||

    HEY! They're showing Calvin Johnson (WR - Detroit Lions) in an ad!

    It's like the Lions are a real football team or something.

    Back to the horror of the real world...

  • ||

    The amendment would also have allowed the makers of prune juice to advertise that their products help relieve constipation.

    Rand Paul is a fucking monster!

  • Emmerson Biggins||

    Anarchy! Chaos!

    These bitter clinging racists won't stop until all that is good about America has been chucked over a cliff with Grandma and the Robber Barrons rule the world through Satanic Ritual of Corporate Personhood!

  • ||

    You are gifted....

  • Rich||

    I suggest Senator Paul now introduce legislation to militarize every federal agency.

  • Stormy Dragon||

    Wouldn't that be surperfluous? Name one agency that isn't?

  • John||

    USCIS. It is where they put all of the hippies from the old INS.

  • Rich||

    I *think* the Office of the Historian, in the Bureau of Public Affairs of the State Department, is currently unarmed.

  • Stormy Dragon||

    Nope, they have armed agents. Although they are by law limited to single shot muzzle loaded pistols for purposes of authenticity.

  • Rich||

    Ah, yes. I forgot about the Authenticity Enforcement Agency.

  • Paul.||

    Bad idea. That would actually pass. He should introduce legislation to arm congress and the senate. Hopefully they'd wipe eachother out.

  • Rich||

    I'd rather they fought each other with fists and chairs, like the Taiwanese parliament.

  • Emmerson Biggins||

    That'd be far more entertaining, for sure. But I want results.

  • ||

    Oh, that would be absolutely precious.

  • John||

    Riggs,

    Where is the roll call? I would like to know who the 15 dirty rotten criminal loving bastards are.

  • Mike Riggs||

    Just requested it.

  • Paul.||

    I would strongly suggest some sort of letter writing campaign to the other 78 senators demanding to get a specific, throughly worded explantion defining exactly why an FDA employee should require firearms to stop farms from selling raw milk.

  • Raston Bot||

    You mean you don't know? It's our new meme. Here, I'll save you some time...

    Fuck you, that's why.

  • ||

    It was an amendment asking government to yield up power. Naturally, it was doomed to fail.

    Still, I'm grateful that he got it to the Senate floor.

  • John||

    In fairness, there may not even be 15 sane Senators. Some of those 15 may have been octogenarians who thought they were voting for prune juice to be put served at the Senate cafeteria.

  • Chupacabra||

    +2

  • Romulus Augustus||

    How long until an armed FDA agent has to shoot a cow that made "an aggressive move" toward him?

  • NoVAHockey||

    voting Nay

    Ayotte (R-NH)
    Boozman (R-AR)
    Coburn (R-OK)
    Cornyn (R-TX)
    Crapo (R-ID)
    DeMint (R-SC)
    Johanns (R-NE)
    Johnson (R-WI)
    Lee (R-UT)
    Paul (R-KY)
    Risch (R-ID)
    Thune (R-SD)
    Toomey (R-PA)
    Vitter (R-LA)
    Wicker (R-MS)

  • Emmerson Biggins||

    Wow, I figured the whole raw milk thing would allow a couple left wing douchebags to do the right thing here.

  • Paul.||

    That which is not regulated and approved is prohibited.

    Like the thread on 'pro-choice'. Of course no one's calling themselves pro-choice any more. It was never about 'reproductive choice', it was about abortion on demand. Full Stop.

    Pro choice would suggest that women can not only choose abortion, but also choose stuff like fertility treatments, or whether to sell their eggs or not. That's pro-choice. And that doesn't fly with progressives.

  • John||

    Holy shit. I can't believe not one Dem voted for this. That even shocks me. And this vote should be held up anytime some team blue hack claims Dems care about civil liberties.

  • NoVAHockey||

    technically - it was a vote on a motion to table. so if you voted Aye, you voted kill the amendment without discussing it.

  • Loki||

    IOW not one Dem (and several Repubs) even thought it was worth talking about before they killed it.

    We are so fucked.

  • Emmerson Biggins||

    He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance

  • db||

    Toomey doesn't surprise me, as he's got a lot of Amish and other dairy farmers in PA who are fed up with this.

  • NoVAHockey||

  • Emmerson Biggins||

    link screwed by the ampersand eating squirrels.

    go to vote 00107

  • John Franklin||

    So let me get this straight...Rand Paul wants every snake oil and counterfeit drug salesman out there to exercise their 2nd Amendment right, but not the FDA Agents trying to protect us from these scammers. Will Mr. Paul attend the funeral of the next federal agent killed in the line of duty?

  • ||

    Maybe to piss on their grave.

  • John||

    C- Trolling.

  • BJB||

    No, making a false claim is punishable, but being and idiot and buying snake oil is freedom. Let me buy stupid things if I want, worry about yourself.

  • John Franklin||

    I am all about personal responsibility, but try telling that to someone desperate to live who spent their life savings on a "cancer cure" Look folks, I am glad we have the FDA - there are some greedy people out there.

  • mad libertarian guy||

    Of course you seem to be conspicuously forgetting those who die waiting for the FDA to get their heads out of their asses and allow individuals to make decisions for themselves and their doctors about how to treat their own fucking bodies.

    Fuck the FDA.

  • Paul.||

    Will Mr. Paul attend the funeral of the next federal agent killed in the line of duty?

    Define "federal agent". According to progressives, the sleepy guy behind the desk at the post-office is a "federal agent", and a potentially armed one.

  • Jesse James Dean||

    obvious statist troll is obvious

  • ant1sthenes||

    I thought it was a joke.

  • Jesse James Dean||

    no I don't think he was joking by the tone of it, certain words used

  • Emmerson Biggins||

    I didn't even perceive this as trolling. I thought this was just plain ole sarcasm.

  • Loki||

    I thought so too until it posted a second time. Apparently "John Franklin" was actually being serious. The fact that there are people out there who honestly believe that the FDA should have their own armed agents is the reason why this country is fucked.

  • Robert||

    I thought trolling was sarcasm, put forward by someone to catch the irony-challenged.

  • Jesse James Dean||

    IT can also be an out of place comment meant to get a rise out of people. But yes, usually trolling is jut for the lulz

  • Emmerson Biggins||

    needs moar "FOR THE CHILDRENZ!"

  • Emmerson Biggins||

    Attention "Liberty for All" Super PAC guy:

    Here is a potentially* great litmus vote for senate. None of the 78 dipshits on the wrong side of this vote should every get any of your money.

    *Unless there was something else actually objectionable from any any kind of rational basis.

  • DoubleIPA||

    Drop the raw milk or I'll shoot.

  • Tejicano||

    This is obviously less a case of FDA agents facing dangerous, armed resistance and more a case of another Fed agency feeling a need to ensure their authority is respected and obeyed.

  • Mink Chiropractic Ctr.||

    78 bought and pharmaceutically paid for U.S. senators lacking "chutzpah"....is this a great country or what. They should be called "guys without balls".

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