Matt Welch | June 16, 2009
Hank Paulson's son, that's who!
Direct from the Beaver's mouth:
Very soon, Portland will make a once-in-a-generation decision. We have an opportunity to create more than 600 construction jobs and 300 permanent jobs, an opportunity to leverage at least $40 million in private investment, an opportunity to revitalize our city with millions in private investment and new sustainability-focused development, an opportunity to showcase Portland and Oregon to the nation and world by adding another major league team poised to flourish, and an opportunity for more than 1 million people every year to help build our economy and community. [...]
During tough economic times, some will question investing public resources in sports. But this is about far more than soccer or baseball. It's about putting people back to work now and economic development tomorrow. It's about leveraging at least $40 million of immediate private money. It's about creating new civic gathering places and public investments that enrich our quality of life. And it's about 1 million people each year, coming together, and building our economy and community.
God, I love that "leveraging" line, the go-to economic-multiplier jargon among slicktastic Left Coast politicos from Seattle to San Onofre. I mean, if Barack Obama gives me 10 bucks, that means the D.C. economy will "leverage" my 5 bucks when I buy one helluva $15 sandwich, right?
Well, at least my regionally confident Portland peeps aren't falling for this old wives' shaggy dog story, right? Cue the giant smacking sound of Oregonian columnist John Canzano's lips on Paulson Jr.'s posterior:
What kind of city does Portland want to become?
Some might think sports should not be a priority, particularly right now. That's a defensible, though short-sighted, position. But it's not defensible to shun the chance to land another professional franchise because of Paulson's lineage.
Because I've rubbed elbows with the men who own professional sports franchises. They're all wealthy. They're typically well-educated. They can be disconnected snobs who fail to relate to regular citizens. But I've never met an owner as grounded as Paulson.
Link via Free Andy Laroche via Matt Taibbi via Wonkette. Peruse through Reason's vast anti-stadium subsidy literature starting here. And luxuriate anew in Tim Cavanaugh's devastating critique of Paulson Sr.'s housing panic here.
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They're all wealthy. They're typically well-educated. They
can be disconnected snobs who fail to relate to regular citizens.
But I've never met an owner as grounded as Paulson
And they can all afford to build their own stadiums, but would
prefer to make the taxpayers pay for it.
Please SHUT THE FUCK UP.
The grossly inflated salaries and costs associated with
pro-sports of all stripes would drastically decline, only if more
people would realize that paying hundreds of dollars to watch a
game in person is goddamn foolish.
Especially on a repetitive basis. :-p
I live in Portland. Me, my wife, our daughter, and her
significant other ride horses and bikes, ski nordic and alpine,
snowboard, flyfish, hike, rockclimb, run marathons, and average 7.5
hours in the gym per week. We are too busy for "sports." You'll see
us at concerts and the fourth of July Blues festival, but you won't
find us at professional sport stadiums this summer.
Stop the insanity of subsidizing professional sports.
God, I love that "leveraging" line, the go-to
economic-multiplier jargon among slicktastic Left Coast politicos
from Seattle to San Onofre. I mean, if Barack Obama gives me 10
bucks, that means the D.C. economy will "leverage" my 5 bucks when
I buy one helluva $15 sandwich, right?
Yes, and apparently this multiplier effect only works when
government spends money, not private individuals and companies.
Paulson should declare his soccer team to be a Bank Holding Company that way it can get access to the FED and Treasury money stolen from the Federal taxpayer. That way they won't have to depend on piddling amounts stolen from city taxpayers
My home city of Overland Park, Ks, is getting 12 youth soccer
fields for only $36,000,0000.
Only a 50% increase in the hotel tax.
http://www.kansascity.com/news/breaking_news/story/1254114.html
Hundreds of new permanent jobs. Lots of supportive business
start-ups, millions - no! Billions! - in revenue from retail
spin-offs from the sports fans drawn into the area on a regular
basis. Instant neighborhood renewal. Tax revenue galore for the
city.
Blah blah blah. Has any part of this grand old lie ever
once come true in all the times it's been tried?
I grew up in PDX and I can't for the life of me figure why they
would want a baseball team. With the economic structure of MLB, a
team from such a small market would be stuck in Kansas-City-Royal
hell until the fan base dried up.
OTOH, Portland would make a great NHL city and you wouldn't need to
build a new stadium.
Hundreds of new permanent jobs. Lots of supportive business
start-ups, millions - no! Billions! - in revenue from retail
spin-offs from the sports fans drawn into the area on a regular
basis. Instant neighborhood renewal. Tax revenue galore for the
city.
Blah blah blah. Has any part of this grand old lie ever once come
true in all the times it's been tried?
No. But this time it will be different. *gags on own
vomit*
It occurs to me that bowling alleys get no subsidies at all and
still professional bowling exists. How is that
possible?
"God, I love that "leveraging" line, the go-to
economic-multiplier jargon among slicktastic Left Coast politicos
from Seattle to San Onofre."
Having worked in the non-profit art sector for a number of years, I
can say with confidence that this is one of the most ignorant
things you have ever written.
Is Taibbi still writing for Rolling Stone? I subscribed to their RSS feed a few months ago, and haven't seen a single Taibbi post. Just a bunch of brain-dead posts from their other political writers.
"It occurs to me that bowling alleys get no subsidies at all and
still professional bowling exists. How is that possible?"
Shoe rental.
""""Blah blah blah. Has any part of this grand old lie ever once
come true in all the times it's been tried?"""""
Well the connected sports team owners, politicians and developers
usually make a nice buck off of it and then there are the part time
hotdog salespeople, but after that the benefits really drop off
steeply
If it were such a great deal, why would any true capitalist with
the dough to self-finance want to share the wealth with the
public?
However, I suppose it's good business to try and get some other
sucker to put up the money and assume a chunk of the risk, so I
don't blame Paulson or any other franchise owner for selling the
idea to state or municipal government. Stopping this kind of scheme
is the job of public servants who should know better than to
fritter away taxpayer dollars.
Listen to me... wistfully dreaming of politicians doing the right
thing.
The powers will always argue for a new stadium, and the stink from their arguments never seems to bother them. The Orlando Sentinel has been running stories about how the Magic need a new arena to be successful. They never acknowledge the irony that they went to the finals in an old arena. They simply state that no team can be successful there. I hope they leave town. Your team too. I hope every sports franchise from every city in America leaves town.
""""It occurs to me that bowling alleys get no subsidies at all
and still professional bowling exists. How is that
possible?""""
How many Bowlers make over 10 million a year?
Baseball and football tickets would be cheaper if the players were
paid only prize money.
"Do explain."
Often, governments require a non-profit to raise a specific dollar
amount in order to receive government funding. So if I raise $2M
and the government says by doing so they will kick in $5M, then
it's a lot more likely when I approach a billionaire or a
foundation that I will get $2M from each of them as well because I
already have $7M. Money loves itself.
So now my paltry $2M has been leveraged to $11M. Or one could say
the state's $5M was leveraged to $11M. That means that the state
picked up an extra $6M worth of community investment than it
otherwise would have were I left to raise capital on my own.
That's money is going into the construction of the project followed
by long-term jobs for artists, ticket brokers, venders, janitors,
etc. and years of entertainment for the community at large.
"Some might think sports should not be a priority,
particularly right now"
How about "never"?
money does not leverage money except when getting government
money. Action leverages private money. You may need money to get a
project to a certain point and then be able to provide a service
which will give you access to another revenue stream or that others
will find valuable and support.
In the case of leveraging gov. $$$ they usually want to see that a
project will be self sustaining and not be coming around for gov.
handouts every year.
The extra $4M you got would still have gone somewhere. You just
shifted it from one project to another. No extra benefit.
My city is building a downtown basketball arena. There is a
perfectly fine one (Freedom Hall) with plenty of parking (it is
located at the fairgrounds). It isnt downtown though, since
Fairgrounds normally arent. Even if they needed to build a new one,
building it next to the other would have been cheaper and easier
for traffic flow/parking/etc.
The selling point was that it would revive the restaurant/bar
business downtown, which is primarily daytime only now (although
that was changing already). However, there is going to be no extra
eating, instead eating will be shifted from a bunch of businesses
spread throughout the city to a handful of businesses located near
the arena. No net benefit, yet they are selling it as a special
benefit. Transferring tiny amounts of money from a bunch of
restaurants to a few (them getting big money) is somehow a good
thing?
"The extra $4M you got would still have gone somewhere. You just
shifted it from one project to another. No extra benefit."
I don't disagree with you, but it could have gone to a start-up in
China, which doesn't benefit my community.
"The selling point was that it would revive the restaurant/bar
business downtown"
In the case of my project, no such claims are being made. We're
just building a theater.
You, China, makes no fucking difference to me. Except I wouldnt have had to fund, via the $5M, the chinese investment.
no such claims are being made
You made the same claim:
That's money is going into the construction of the project
followed by long-term jobs for artists, ticket brokers, venders,
janitors, etc. and years of entertainment for the community at
large.
Shift from one business to another in my town vs shift from chinese
artists/brokeers/venders/etc to ones in your town. Same argument,
just different businesses.
"You, China, makes no fucking difference to me. Except I wouldnt
have had to fund, via the $5M, the chinese investment."
All true, but the point is that money does provide leverage,
contrary to what Captain Somnolence wrote.
This is, on a smaller scale, the same problem with the housing bubble. Government policy shifting capital from best use to less efficient use. Im not expecting a stadium bubble, but then again, when places with 15 year old stadiums start whining they need another one....
"Shift from one business to another in my town vs shift from
chinese artists/brokeers/venders/etc to ones in your town. Same
argument, just different businesses."
That's akin to saying the pie in America isn't growing. True, at
the monment it is kind of shrinking, but that's not the norm. I
mean, given your rational, what's the use of starting a new
business. I mean if I start making and selling candles, that's just
gonna screw over some other candlemaker.
It's a jungle out here. Dog eat dog.
In the case of my project, no such claims are being made.
We're just building a theater.
Using tax dollars, right?
Fuck your pissy ass little theater that will put on shitty amateur
productions that nobody cares enough about to make it financially
viable.
Fuck Paulson's grandiose scheme of a dollar sucking pit for
pampered professional athelets and their stupid tribalistc
fans.
Now ask me how I feel about the government subsidized symphony
hall.
Dear "Matt Welch Makes Me Sleepy":
Please take your tin cup and shove it up your ass.
Thx, have a nice day.
OTOH, Portland would make a great NHL city and you wouldn't need to
build a new stadium.
So lets see--it wouldn't require building a new stadium, would have
40 more dates a year where the Rose Garden gets used, which would
benefit the restaurants, bars, hotels, etc? And it won't cost the
taxpayers a cent?
Nah...makes too much sense.
What's really comical is that Portland has as much chance of
getting a MLB team as they do getting an Australian Rules Football
team. All of this financial outlay is so we can get a MLS soccer
team here in the Rose City. And you know what a huge hit pro soccer
is here in the US...
I want to know when the government will finally do something to improve the community? How about government subsidized nudie bars? Or would this from a free market perspective cause a lowering of standards. I don't want no fat chick nudie bars
The Hammer cashed out of Goldman Sachs (tax free) at the top; how much of his own cash is in this little boondoggle?
That's akin to saying the pie in America isn't growing.
True, at the monment it is kind of shrinking, but that's not the
norm. I mean, given your rational, what's the use of starting a new
business. I mean if I start making and selling candles, that's just
gonna screw over some other candlemaker.
WTF? That isnt even close to what Im saying. The growth overall of
the economy isnt being discussed, we are taking a snapshot at one
point in time and talking about using government money to make
shift money from Business A to Business B. If the private sector
does it, okay, thats life. But when the government starts choosing
winners, problems start. Especially when everyone is a loser to pay
for it.
C'mon DJF, I know you're a chubby chaser. You're telling me you've never been hogging?
MLS soccer is a huge hit in Seattle. They average 30,000 per game and Drew Carey from Reason is in the ownership group.
What this is, is the flip side of the externalities argument
that the envirotards are always yammering on about.
Essentially, what these owners are saying is that their sports
stadium creates all kinds of positive externalities for the
community, so the community should help pay for it.
Anyone who thinks negative externalities created by private
businesses should be taxed, must also believe that positive
externalities created by private businesses should be be
subsidized, no? How do you argue the one side without the
other?
Having worked in the non-profit art sector for a number of
years...
You could have stopped at that statement. As someone that has
busted ass at studying art and paid for my entire education
out-of-pocket, I am justified in my unrelenting hatred of smarmy,
self-important pissants that claim the need for state funding for
their projects on the grounds of some ambiguously defined cultural
benefit.
P.S.: Theater people are the absolute fucking worst. If the art
world was sports, you'd be the flag squad at a pep rally.
This whole thing is so mind-numbingly dumb that it is exactly
the kind of thing I expect my hometown to do (hey, did you know
we have
a tram??*).
As was pointed out this isn't even about MLB (which would be bad
enough if it was, -- see the Nationals -- but at least that really
is major league) this is about bringing MLS(!!) to
Portland. MLS (or "Major League" Soccer -- I believe the scare
quotes are actually part of their title now) is, well, "major
league" in name only. What Paulson wants is public money to bring
in another in the long string of minor professional sports
franchises that have called Portland home before failing.** Many of
those have played in the same stadium he wants public money to
refurbish yet again. In fact, this very stadium was the subject of
a public refurbishing barely 10 years ago to bring in... get
this... minor league baseball. Yep, that's right, Portland spent
public money to bring minor league baseball back to town because we
all know what a boon a minor league baseball team is to the economy
of a city the size of Portland (metropolitan area population 2.2
million).
Oh and the beauty of this latest boondoggle is that the minor
league baseball team (owned by Paulson) that was the reason for the
previous public stadium refurbishing is being evicted for his
soccer team, meaning they will now need a new stadium which will
require, yep, even more public financing. The ongoing saga in
Portland at this point is where to put the new minor league
stadium: far out from downtown in an essentially residential
neighborhood, or to tear down the old Memorial Coliseum (former
home of the Trail Blazers) and put it there.
And don't forget, all this is for a god-damned minor league team!
It's almost too stupid to fathom. If a minor league team cannot be
entirely privately financed, who the fuck cares? Let them go. Good
riddance. This isn't the New York Yankess we're talking about for
fuck's sake.
When a major league owner threatens to leave, it's unfortunate he
has such leverage to extort taxpayer money, but in this case, what
leverage does Paulson have? He needs Portland a lot more than
Portland needs him. The city should tell him to do it yourself of
kindly fuck off (well ok, maybe in more civic terms, but...).
What's he gonna do? Take the team to Salem? Come on. The MLS wants
to be in Portland, it isn't going to let him have a team anywhere
else. There is no reason to give him a dime.
Whether all this is a "wag the dog" moment for Mayor Sam "I did not
have sexual relations with that boy (at least before he was 18 that
is)" Adams is another story (and personally, for the record, I
don't care what he did).
* From the tram wiki -- surprise! "The project suffered significant
cost overruns during its construction. Construction cost was nearly
four times the initial estimate, a development that nearly led to
the tram's cancellation mid-construction. Operating costs are
nearly twice original projections."
** There was an article a few months ago about all the failed minor
sports that have come through town including the old WFL (twice) in
the 70's, the USFL (remember them) in the 80's, the NASL, lacrosse,
women's basketball (twice)...
"""""C'mon DJF, I know you're a chubby chaser. You're telling me
you've never been hogging?"""
Of course not, but I don't want to have them nudie dancing on
stage. Hogging is best done in dark bars at closing hour.
Or would this from a free market perspective cause a
lowering of standards. I don't want no fat chick nudie
bars
Heh. Yep, just wait until the city imposes a non-discrimination on
the basis of age, weight and sex clause.
Lamar, I thought the new arena was a done deal as of 2006. (I stopped reading the Slantinel).
They've already given a much bigger handout to the new soccer
team. But it's so much more fun to bash baseball handouts.
I'm more irate at the soccer handout, myself. Why spend several
hundred million on a sport no-one wants to see?
I'm more irate at the soccer handout, myself. Why spend
several hundred million on a sport no-one wants to see?
Sure, but that's what's so maddening about the whole thing. Both
sports, soccer and minor league baseball are niche sports
that only a small number of people care about to begin with. If a
city the size of Portland can't support either without public
funding, then we don't need them. It's so absurd to be caving to a
sports team owner with taxpayer handouts for such piddling level
sports that I can scarcely believe it's even a consideration.
I'm more irate at the soccer handout, myself. Why spend
several hundred million on a sport no-one wants to see?
Meh, some of us in the US do enjoy watching soccer, however I
really can't support the tax payer stadium subsidization BS.
I don't support baseball handouts either, but baseball subsidies are a more visible whipping boy. Let's bash them all equally.
Before saying no one wants to see soccer I suggest looking at
the actual statistics. The USA games in the last world cup got
higher ratings than the nba finals. Beckham sold more jerseys last
year than any nba, nfl or mlb player. Seattle averages 30,000 per
game, the LA Galaxy draw over 25,000 per game when Beckham plays
and Galaxy draw higher local ratings than the clippers and kings.
Toronto sells out every game in their 20,000 seat stadium and they
are talking of expanding the stadium. When Beckham played his first
game in New York there were 66,000 in attendance.
Portland will draw over 20,000 per game guaranteed. Soccer is way
more popular than what many of you think.
I don't support baseball handouts either, but baseball
subsidies are a more visible whipping boy. Let's bash them all
equally.
I agree, we should oppose all of them. I certainly didn't mean my
rant to be particularly about the baseball team, it was meant to be
about both. More so that both are minor league even if soccer calls
itself major league (it is not the top players in the world by any
stretch).
I should say I also oppose paying major league owners subsidies as
well, but in that case I can at least appreciate the pressure some
cities find themselves in due to the limited, monopolized, number
of pro spots franchises giving the owners a great deal of leverage
to extort money from the city. If all cities would agree to simply
tell them to go to hell, there would be no problem, but as long as
there is a city somewhere desperate for a team that is willing to
hand over the taxpayers cash, the owners will continue to take what
they can get.
Somewhat ironically (or maybe not) Portland has historically been
one of those leverage cities owners could use to get better deals.
Being the largest media market without more than one professional
franchise it always comes up as a potential destination for an
owner threatening to move. I imagine this trend will increase when,
say the owner of the Oakland A's, points north and says "hey, if
Portland's willing to pay for a minor league team, how much do you
think they'll give me if I offer to bring major league baseball to
town?"
At any rate, my personal preference is for an NHL team. As noted by
others above, the building already exists, the Blazers owner Paul
Allen could write a personal check for any NHL franchise he wants
(in fact he was very close to bringing the Penguins to Portland
back when they went through their bankruptcy, among a few other
franchises) and it would almost double the number of events the
Rose Garden (which he owns as well).
This whole thing is so mind-numbingly dumb that it is
exactly the kind of thing I expect my hometown to do (hey, did you
know we have a tram??*).
Yep, and it's had no effect on congestion.
All true, but the point is that money does provide leverage,
contrary to what Captain Somnolence wrote.
Um, news flash, a-hole: That's not the use of the word "leveraging"
that Welch is taking about.
Welch is talking about the perennial claim that money invested in
sports stadia returns to the community via the money made off of
events. This claim has been thoroughly debunked by study after
study after study of the actual economic impact of new
stadia.
He wasn't talking about your leverage. The fact that
getting a government handout makes it easier for you to beg for
money elsewhere is not relevant to the discussion.
Buying stadiums for rich people is unpopular, I'll tell you
what. And never stops.
I'm super mad and will write a letter this time.
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