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At Least That Solves the Residency Problem
When Cedric Bradshaw was released from prison after serving a sentence for statutory rape, he moved in with his sister. Because she lived near a recreation center, Bradshaw, a registered sex offender, was forced to move. He moved in with his aunt. But his aunt lived within 1,000 feet of a church, so he had to move once again. A friend of a friend offered him a bedroom in a trailer, so he re-registered. But he (apparently accidentally) gave the wrong address, failed to move into the trailer within the required 72 hours, and stupidly lied to police about having moved into the trailer. The penalty?
The judge had only one option when he sentenced Cedric Bradshaw: life in prison.
Bradshaw had not committed murder, rape or armed robbery. His offense was failing to properly register as a convicted sex offender for a second time —- even though he had repeatedly tried to follow the law.
Welcome to Georgia! The state's supreme court will decide whether Bradshaw's sentence is cruel and unusual. Perhaps a lawyer can explain why residency laws that force convicted sex offenders away from their families and into random trailer parks are amenable to public safety.
reason slammed Georgia's draconian residency laws here and here.
Via Volokh.
|7.1.08 @ 1:44PM|#
Don't even get me started on this. I'll make joe look like an SS spokesman when we talk about sex offender registries. If they're that fucking dangerous, why the hell are they allowed out of prison? If they aren't, why are they treated so?
bobby|7.1.08 @ 1:46PM|#
This is so misguided. They're using up bed space that could be used to imprison marijuana users.
|7.1.08 @ 1:51PM|#
This is what we get when moral hysteria is the driving force behind criminal law.
Guy Montag|7.1.08 @ 1:53PM|#
So, registered sex offenders can't get within 1,000' of a place
of worship? I wonder if Sen. Obama addresses that in his
faith based initiatives? One would think that some places of
worship might have beneficial programs for sexual offenders.
All kidding aside, if these restrictions were not part of the
sentencing for these individuals then they should be tossed
out.
Ironic|7.1.08 @ 1:53PM|#
"Don't even get me started on this. I'll make joe look like an
SS spokesman when we talk about sex offender registries. If they're
that fucking dangerous, why the hell are they allowed out of
prison? If they aren't, why are they treated so?"
True enough - if this was an ACTUAL case of rape - by that I mean
the other party did not concent I have no pity on the man. If (as I
suspect) it was a case of he being a few years older I certainly
do. Actual rapists deserve life in prison and deserve to never see
blue sky again.
I didn\'t just type that.|7.1.08 @ 1:58PM|#
"So, registered sex offenders can't get within 1,000' of a place
of worship?"
No wonder the Catholic Church can't get enough priests.
Elemenope|7.1.08 @ 1:59PM|#
If I were a judge in this case, I would have flat out ignored
the law as clearly counter to the interests of justice, and see the
legislature try to impeach me for it.
Hey, everyone else in law enforcement ignores the law; why not
judges? :(
Dagny T.|7.1.08 @ 1:59PM|#
Some towns have successfully gerrymandered their zones so that
there is literally nowhere in their city limits that a sex offender
can live. This has been challenged by the ACLU as akin to
banishment.
http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=20051116&slug=sexoffender16e
Why stop at banishment? Round 'em up with the porn-viewers and WoW
players and tar'n'feather their asses!
Ironic|7.1.08 @ 2:01PM|#
"Hey, everyone else in law enforcement ignores the law; why not
judges? :("
Some members of SCOTUS ignore the Constitution.
Jozef|7.1.08 @ 2:02PM|#
"So, registered sex offenders can't get within 1,000' of a
place of worship?"
No wonder the Catholic Church can't get enough priests.
They can still get the unregistered sex offenders.
ktc2|7.1.08 @ 2:04PM|#
So life in prison for not hurting anyone (based on available
info)? Wow, that's really the moral high ground. Fucking
retards.
Sex happens people, get over it.
Dagny T.|7.1.08 @ 2:07PM|#
Haven't read the whole paper yet, but
this looks interesting.
Titled: Why Sex Offender Residency Restrictions Should Be
Abandoned.
|7.1.08 @ 2:07PM|#
Dagny T, as a porn viewer I resent your attempt to categorize me with the sort of earth-walking scum that engage in WOW activity. Please try to be more sensitive in the future.
|7.1.08 @ 2:16PM|#
The Georgian politicians were very open that their intent was to
get sex offenders to leave the state. As a resident of one of the
other 49 states, I'm not pleased.
It seems that the drug war is no longer the opportunity for free
lunch tough on crime legislation it once was and politicians are
going after sex offenders instead since they are easy and,
frequently, deserving targets. Two observations on this:
1. How low on the moral pecking order are you when need to look to
child molesters to find someone more offensive?
2. If this follows the usual pattern, politicians will file
incrementally harsher penalties against an increasing range of
offenders until you hit a backlash. That's right, politicians will
actually drive people to defend sex offenders.
Metal thief|7.1.08 @ 2:16PM|#
Perhaps a lawyer can explain why residency laws that force
convicted sex offenders away from their families and into random
trailer parks are amenable to public safety.
I'm no lawyer, but the law certainly deterred me from being a sex
offender. Once, I got sentenced to community service at a recycling
center. I farted through silk for that 240 hours.
Dagny T. |7.1.08 @ 2:22PM|#
bigbigslacker,
My sincerest apologies. Good thing I'm not in my native Canada,
where offending someone is now a
crime.
|7.1.08 @ 2:26PM|#
Setting aside the total fuckedupitude of the story as a whole, I
can't help but have my flabber even more thoroughly gasted by this
bit:
But his aunt lived within 1,000 feet of a church, so he had to
move once again.
They made the area around a church legally "sanctified"?
How the hell has the ACLU not already stuffed and mounted the heads
of the legislators in question?
Guy Montag|7.1.08 @ 2:31PM|#
How the hell has the ACLU not already stuffed and mounted
the heads of the legislators in question?
I didn't see them rushing into the Heller case, what makes
you think they will be messing around with this one?
Abdul|7.1.08 @ 2:35PM|#
They made the area around a church legally "sanctified"? How
the hell has the ACLU not already stuffed and mounted the heads of
the legislators in question?
Because the law treats all houses of worship the same, there's no
consitituional issue. The legislature made a rational decision that
children are likely to be present in or around churches due to the
role religious institutions have in our society. Could the law have
been written differently and still protected churches with
significant child populations--sure, but the constituion doesn't
require it.
|7.1.08 @ 2:39PM|#
Still seems to me like this is the most literal possible sense of "respecting an establishment of religion."
Guy Montag|7.1.08 @ 2:43PM|#
I predict that the SCOGA will rule that they can not be banished
from the State, but may be herded into a single county.
Psychic Montag
|7.1.08 @ 2:44PM|#
Jake- the "church" provision applies to all "house of worship",
if I recall correctly.
Still sounds like a good lawyer could make an equal protection
claim out of it- with the party harmed being some secular
institution that has similar numbers of kids around and isn't
getting this "protection". But that would just end up
expanding these provisions, and that's the last thing we
want.
You could also go with the 1A angle- favoring religion over
"irreligion" as the justice said- but the end result would be the
same. And both arguments are about equally unlikely to be accepted
by a court to strike down a wildly popular law with vocal
support.
|7.1.08 @ 2:45PM|#
"How the hell has the ACLU not already stuffed and mounted the
heads of the legislators in question?
I didn't see them rushing into the Heller case, what makes you
think they will be messing around with this one?"
The ACLU has been at the forefront of fighting these stupid laws.
Haven't seen many conservative legal watchdogs doing
much...hmmm
http://www.aclu.org/crimjustice/gen/20127prs20050929.html
|7.1.08 @ 2:46PM|#
"Because the law treats all houses of worship the same, there's
no consitituional issue"
This is a common misunderstanding. Treating all religions the same,
even if it could be done, doesn't make it constitutional if it
still favors "religion over irreligion". This principle isn't
vigorously enforced by the courts, though.
|7.1.08 @ 2:46PM|#
Still seems to me like this is the most literal possible sense
of "respecting an establishment of religion."
Seems the opposite to me. I would assume that sex offenders who
found Jesus behind bars would be prevented by this law from
practicing religion in the state of Georgia. Is freedom of
religion, like the right to bear arms, to be restricted based on
personal and/or criminal history?
|7.1.08 @ 2:47PM|#
The world has gone insane. When the ignorant masses aren't worshipping at the alter of global warming, they are burning "sex offenders" at the stake. What makes this age so scary is that it is rather than the pitchfork wielding mobs of peasants who are the most ignorant and suppositious, it is our most educated and influential elites who seem to get more ignorant, hysterical and suppositious each year. We truly live in dark times.
|7.1.08 @ 2:48PM|#
"When the ignorant masses aren't worshipping at the alter of global warming, they are burning "sex offenders" at the stake." Aren't the latter fossil fuels?
Anonymo the Anonymous|7.1.08 @ 3:00PM|#
I've always wondered about the rationale behind this; do
legislators believe sex offenders run on batteries that give out
after 1,000 feet?
Seriously, what's the conclusions of any empirical research into
these sex-offender free zones? Have any good studies been done?
Obviously I think a priori these are idiotic and, if applied ex
post facto, unconstitutional; how far can we go in saying "These
have been proven ineffective"?
the innominate one|7.1.08 @ 3:09PM|#
John, what are you talking about?
(he wrote, dreading the inevitably ridiculous response)
|7.1.08 @ 3:10PM|#
Now, if there is a "house of worship" on the prison grounds, could Georgia be subject to a injunction barring them from housing sex offenders in the prison?
jkp|7.1.08 @ 3:16PM|#
I mis-read this as "Carrie Bradshaw", not Cedric at first.
Really puts a different spin on the article.
jkp|7.1.08 @ 3:18PM|#
Also, let's cut the bullshit about Stautory Rape not being a "real" crime. If she was 10, would that still be okay?
Julian Sanchez|7.1.08 @ 3:18PM|#
Skimming the article, it looks like the underlying crime for which this guy will be sent to jail for life is sleeping with a 15-year-old girl when he was 19.
Elemenope|7.1.08 @ 3:20PM|#
Now, if there is a "house of worship" on the prison grounds,
could Georgia be subject to a injunction barring them from housing
sex offenders in the prison?
There almost invariably is, and this had occurred to me. Hopefully,
it will also occur to some inmates' bored Georgia lawyer.
Elemenope|7.1.08 @ 3:23PM|#
Also, let's cut the bullshit about Statutory Rape not being
a "real" crime. If she was 10, would that still be okay?
No, it wouldn't. That has nothing to do with disagreeing with the
current definitions of statutory rape, which are currently in most
states fucking idiotic, and *include* a 16 year old sleeping with a
19 year old.
No, *that* (16->19) is not a crime. Try not to conflate some
stupid and unbelievably rare extremity with the actual situation,
please.
Abdul|7.1.08 @ 3:28PM|#
Now, if there is a "house of worship" on the prison grounds,
could Georgia be subject to a injunction barring them from housing
sex offenders in the prison?
I believe he could use the necessity defense.
it looks like the underlying crime for which this guy will be
sent to jail for life is sleeping with a 15-year-old girl when he
was 19.
He did that while he was on probation for "enticing a child for
indecent purposes."
As Phil Hartman playing Frank Sinatra said to Woody Allen "Keep
your hands off the kinder. Go to the bathroom. It's a one-man band.
No one gets hurt."
|7.1.08 @ 3:29PM|#
Elemenope said:
No, *that* (16->19) is not a crime.
Why not? Why should a legal adult be allowed to accept the consent
of a minor? If you don't believe that statutory rape is a crime,
wouldn't you also have to believe that minors should be able to
smoke and drink and gamble and do everything else an adult can do?
Remember, for all of those acts, the adult provider is the
criminal. Why make an exception for sex?
|7.1.08 @ 3:33PM|#
"Seriously, what's the conclusions of any empirical research
into these sex-offender free zones? Have any good studies been
done? Obviously I think a priori these are idiotic and, if applied
ex post facto, unconstitutional; how far can we go in saying "These
have been proven ineffective"?"
They don't think about any of that stuff. It is just mass neurosis.
Sometimes entire sections of society go completely insane. When
that happens and you are not lucky you end up with the great terror
or the final sollution. In 21st Century America at best we get
nitwits buying hybrid cars to "save the earth" and at worst we get
this kind of thing.
Guy Montag|7.1.08 @ 3:36PM|#
MP,
Don't forget entering into contracts. This is a libertarian blog
you know. Certain list items are sacred.
Nigel Watt|7.1.08 @ 3:38PM|#
If you don't believe that statutory rape is a crime, wouldn't you also have to believe that minors should be able to smoke and drink and gamble and do everything else an adult can do?
Yes, and arbitrary ages obfuscate the real problems of childhood
abuse.
Guy Montag|7.1.08 @ 3:42PM|#
Yes, and arbitrary ages obfuscate the real problems of
childhood abuse.
Um, so we should use some other age besides chronological?
Ben|7.1.08 @ 3:43PM|#
MP--are smoking and drinking and gambling biological acts that feel natural and that the great majority of us feel compelled to take part in?
Ben|7.1.08 @ 3:45PM|#
Guy--I think the point was that some 17 year olds are more well adjusted for some things than some 19 year olds are. Having set ages for things solves a lot of problems but I think sticking to them too rigidly can lead to major injustices (locking this guy up for life, for instance).
|7.1.08 @ 3:48PM|#
One of hubby's employees was thrown in jail last month because
she had moved and, although she'd told *some* of the right people,
she apparently didn't jump through all the sex offender
registry/re-registry hoops.
Good grief. The government makes it so difficult to deal with, it's
as though they *want* to keep these people in jail.
Hmmmmm
Oh, and the other fun part is when some schmuck calls in the
evening to say, "did you know you have someone on The List working
for you?"
What list?
"You know, That List... The one on my computer!"
Everyone who applies is required to state whether they've been
convicted of a felony. Sir, would you prefer that I not employ such
people, so they and their families can wind up on welfare and
thereby fall on YOUR payroll instead of mine?
That tends to shut them up.
|7.1.08 @ 3:48PM|#
MP--are smoking and drinking and gambling biological acts
that feel natural and that the great majority of us feel compelled
to take part in?
Umm.. yes?
Nigel Watt|7.1.08 @ 3:48PM|#
Guy--I think the point was that some 17 year olds are more well adjusted for some things than some 19 year olds are. Having set ages for things solves a lot of problems but I think sticking to them too rigidly can lead to major injustices (locking this guy up for life, for instance).
Yep, this was my point. I'm 19, so you can decide for yourself whether that makes it more or less valid.
|7.1.08 @ 3:53PM|#
Nigel Watt said:
Yes, and arbitrary ages obfuscate the real problems of childhood abuse.
Bright lines are an acceptable part of a predictable legal
system.
Ben said:
Having set ages for things solves a lot of problems but I think sticking to them too rigidly can lead to major injustices (locking this guy up for life, for instance).
That's what judges and discretionary sentencing is for. The problem
is not the law, per se. The problem is mandatory sentencing rules
imposed by law and order type legislators who always want to
demonstrate that they are doing something to stop crime.
|7.1.08 @ 4:03PM|#
What these politicians are doing is simple. They are making it
impossible for anyone who is declared a "sex offender" (which
doesn't take much these days) to live legally. The goal is to make
it so impossible to obey the law that they can be imprisoned again
for bureaucratic technicalities instead of real crimes. One person
I know who works with such cases told me of a recent case of a man
released from prison. He was ordered to register with the state
within so many hours. He went to do so and was told he couldn't
register because he didn't have recent photo ID -- which he didn't
have because had been in jail. So the state refused to allow him to
register but was happy to hold him accountable for not
registering.
In another case I actually saw the release papers ordering this
individual to live in a specific city and only that city. He was
not allowed to travel and he was told that he couldn't live in any
part of the city where chiildren lived --- his sex partner was a
mature teen who was legal in most states but not here, but it
wasn't a child.
Yet I know the city he was told to live in and every area of the
city has children. So he was ordered to live there but forbidden to
live there as well. His view was that the orders made it
impossible. So he violated his parole to visit his dying
grandmother out of state knowing it would get him arrested. And
when they came to arrest him he tried suicide but they got him to
the hospital in time so that they could incarcerate him again. I
guess he thought it worth it since his grandmother passed away
shortly after that. But the conditions on his release made it
impossible.
I've read articles on RSOs who stay with their family during the
day, when they sleep. Then they walk around all night. If they
sleep anywhere at night that is their residence and they can't
reside in their town legally so they just wander the streets.
And all the experts say that most RSOs do not reoffend but that
stress and unstable environments significantly increase the chance
of reoffending. So the way the state treats these people they make
it more likely, not less, that they will reoffend.
|7.1.08 @ 4:10PM|#
"MP--are smoking and drinking and gambling biological acts that
feel natural and that the great majority of us feel compelled to
take part in?"
People don't like drinking? Really?
OT, but concerning drinking-I've read, of course, that drinking
harms the liver. And I've read that the liver has amazing
regenerative powers if given time. Now, if a person drinks twice a
week for years, I mean 10-15 drinks to get hammered, but doesn't
drink anything in between those two days, does the time between the
two drinkings give his liver enough time to stay ahead of the
damage? Any bio or chem majors out there know the answer to
this?
ktc2|7.1.08 @ 4:37PM|#
I had my first sexual encounter with an adult at age 9. It was
fun. No regrets. Second at 13, also fun. No regrets. I'm now
38.
If anybody wanted to prosecute either of these two I'd absolutely
refuse to cooperate.
Sex is before 18 is not some universally life-shattering nightmare
occurrence.
As to consent for sex I'd have to say that if a 12-13 year old can
LEGALLY give informed consent for sex change operation (the total
permanent mutilation of their genitals) I can't see how the results
of consenting to sex would be worse or more permanent.
Zeb|7.1.08 @ 4:37PM|#
Nobody said people don't like smoking and drinking, or can't like those things as much as sex. But smoking and drinking are not fundamental parts of our being or essential motivations as sex is.
|7.1.08 @ 5:07PM|#
This is from the comments over at Volokh. They claims he is a
Georgia Public Defender. I find Volokh to be filled with mostly
lawyer commentors and have no reason to believe the guy is a troll
or lying. Anyway, check this out.
"Example from my case files: Defendant is on the registry a
relatively minor offense - no children, no force and no injury
involved. He was unable to find a place to live in his home county
that complied with the statutory requirements, so he went to a
homeless shelter. He properly registered his residence at the
shelter. 30 days later the shelter closed down and kicked everyone
out on the street. He went to his probation officer that day and
told him what happened. He was promptly arrested for failure to
register 72 hours BEFORE he moved. Since this was the second time
this set of circumstances had happened to him, he was subject to a
mandatory life sentence, but the ADA "forgot" to introduce proof of
the first conviction at the bench trial.
He was sentenced to "only" 10 years to serve."
This stuff scares the hell out of me. I don't see anyway to stop
it. People just have no sense or rationality when it comes to
anything called a "sex offense".
Elemenope|7.1.08 @ 5:53PM|#
I don't see anyway to stop it.
Arm everyone.
Then let them try to drag people away with impunity. If you're
going to prison for the duration anyway...
|7.1.08 @ 7:09PM|#
As to consent for sex I'd have to say that if a 12-13 year
old can LEGALLY give informed consent for sex change
operation
They can't, at least in the US.
ktc2|7.1.08 @ 7:26PM|#
Ah, I see, they start "treating" them at 12 with hormones but
don't do the cutting till 16. Still . . . I think the point
stands.
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