Next Up on the Homosexual Agenda: Ambiguous Parade Floats

Last year, authorities in Twin Falls, Idaho refused to allow a gay pride float in their annual "Western Days" parade. This year, they've given the go ahead to the Southern Idaho Gay Lesbian Bisexual and Transgender Community Center, albeit with some restrictions. Participants were told they could not display rainbows or "any references to homosexuality" on their pro-gay float. Progress!

The restrictions... resulted in a float bearing a cowboy-and-Indian diorama, signs such as "Who pays for school supplies?" and a giant question mark in the middle of it. Asked whether people understood the question mark, [spokesman Mitch Silvester] said he wasn't sure.

"That's the question," he said.

Either that, or "Who pays for school supplies?" Either way, check out Dave Weigel's excellent feature on Idaho's Butch Otter. 

Via Kip Esquire. 

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  • ||

    Just because the otter cuts her hair short and wears flannel doesn't mean you can disrespect her like that, Kerry.

  • Episiarch||

    "Who pays for school supplies?"

    ???

    PROFIT

  • Elemenope||

    "Who pays for school supplies?"

    ???

    PROFIT


    That was approximately my reaction, though in my head I stuck a few exclamation points after the "PROFIT".

  • Elemenope||

    And the ads for this thread are frikkin' hilarious.

  • !||

    gayCHUBBYdating . . . priceless

  • ||

    wait, I don't understand the question mark. Or the 'who pays for school supplies' thing. Am I missing something? is that some sort of gay code now?

  • ||

    I was a reporter and editor for the Twin Falls newspaper in the mid-90s, and the best move I ever made was to get my ass out of that sheep-shit-dipped cornhole of a fuckwad city.
    This is a town where the local school district fired a janitor -- a single dad trying to do the best for his kids -- for moonlighting as a bartender in the evenings.
    Piece of shit "pro-family" Mormons. Fuck 'em. That town should be nuked and the streets paved with the bone dust of those assholes.

  • T||

    I'm wondering if they can use their organization name on the float, because it seems that would be a reference to homosexuality.

    Of course, the last parade I went to was Houston Pride, so the concept of not referencing homosexuality on the float is a little alien.

  • ||

    "Who pays for ? school supplies"

    Gay Indians?

  • T||

    Gay Indians?

    No, Warren, gay cowboys eating pudding.

  • ||

    From the story:
    "They can do whatever they want, long as they keep it away from me," said Twin Falls resident Stacy Randell.

    This is the kind of attitude that makes me want to toss a vial of semen in this bitch's face.

  • Jennifer||

    We had a big thunderstorm here a few days ago, and when it ended there was an enormous double rainbow in the sky. Damn it! Can I not enjoy a simple spectacle of nature without having the insidious homosexual agenda rammed down my throat?

  • ||

    Studies show that seeing a rainbow on a parade float makes it 23.6% more likely that a boy will go gay, and 32.9% more likely that a girl will go lesbian.

  • Bingo||

    "You can have free speech as long as you only do it in the privacy of your own home and there are no children or other people around"

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    Jamie Kelly,

    Er, isn't that attitude a basic expression of libertarianism?

  • Apaulogist||

    So Ron Paul gets 24% in the Idaho GOP primary and now Reason starts ripping on the Gem State's provincial homophobia. How boring and unsurprising. We must educate those rednecks and make the world safe for sodomy!

    zzzzzzzzzzzz.

  • ||

    Bingo,

    You can have free speech as long as you're not forcing someone else to incorporate your speech into their event...I don't think the authorities are telling them they can't mention homosexuality at any time, just not as part of the parade.

  • Jennifer||

    Er, isn't that attitude a basic expression of libertarianism?

    I think the basic expression of libertarianism is "Do what you want so long as nobody else is harmed," not "do what you want so long as nobody else has to run the risk of seeing something which makes him say 'eeew.'"

  • ||

    Er, isn't that attitude a basic expression of libertarianism?

    "Keep it away from me" is not libertarian, in the sense that this slit meant it. What she meant is that gay people should not be gay in front of her, or express any sort of social or political opinion about gay rights. My nonagression principle means that I can't have her clit stapled to her forehead, but I can fantasize.

  • Elemenope||

    "Keep it away from me" is not libertarian, in the sense that this slit meant it...My non-aggression principle means that I can't have her clit stapled to her forehead, but I can fantasize.

    I see you are working on that repressed hostility. Getting it out is very healthy.

    On the other hand, harm is in the body of the experiencer.

  • ||

    You can have free speech as long as you're not forcing someone else to incorporate your speech into their event...I don't think the authorities are telling them they can't mention homosexuality at any time, just not as part of the parade.

    Chris Potter, agreed if the authorities are some private organization that sponsors the parade. The linked article doesn't make it clear whether this is an official city event or not, but the reference to "authorities in Twin Falls, Idaho" in the post suggests that it might be.

    If that is the case, I don't think restrictions on the speech of participants in the parade should be permitted. If it's the city putting on the parade, then gay citizens aren't asking someone else to incorporate gay speech into their event--they are asking to be allowed to speak up in an event that is as much theirs as anyone else's.

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    All these years I thought the smell in the Twin Falls and jerome area was bovine feces in the dairys.

  • Episiarch||

    Studies show that seeing a rainbow on a parade float makes it 23.6% more likely that a boy will go gay, and 32.9% more likely that a girl will go lesbian.

    And they also showed that watching Gossip Girl makes it 100% more likely that you are totally gay.

    (looks pointedly at NutraSweet)

  • Elemenope||

    And they also showed that watching Gossip Girl makes it 100% more likely that you are totally gay.

    Whereas watching Battlestar Galactica makes you a manly hereto man, guaranteed.

    Though you do have to figure out some dicey verbal circumlocutions for the name of the show. No manly man says "Battlestar Galactica" aloud in mixed company.

  • ||

    So "school supplies" is obviously some homosexual agenda code phrase, but for what exactly?

  • ||

    Epi,

    Wow, fantasizing about me just never gets old for you, does it?

    Hope you like bears.

  • ||

    Butch Otter? Didn't she used to hang with [insert beaver joke here. Please!]

  • ||

    So if I want to enter a float about ill effects of the Federal Reserve in my local St Patrick's Day parade, the city authorities have no right to say no?

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    Hey, it's not the city's fault that these people made the choices they did

    /channeling my aunt(s)

  • ||

    The thin veneer of heterosexuality is so fragile in Idaho that one rainbow on a parade float would turn Twin Falls into an actual Sodom.
    That is why the movie was called " My Private Idaho ".

  • ||

    The grocery store closet to campus is where I can play my favorite guessing game:

    Lesbian or Mildly Retarded 15-Year-Old Boy?

  • ||

    So "school supplies" is obviously some homosexual agenda code phrase, but for what exactly?

    Something about putting Crayons in an open box.

  • ||

    So if I want to enter a float about ill effects of the Federal Reserve in my local St Patrick's Day parade, the city authorities have no right to say no?

    If that floats your boat. /lame joke

  • Episiarch||

    Wow, fantasizing about me just never gets old for you, does it?

    I knew you had no response available. Your tired excuses of "but Blake Lively and Michelle Trachtenberg are hot" just don't fly, buddy. I mean, I was capable of turning off the Fantastic Four movie* because of how awful it was.

    * after 40 minutes

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    and now Reason starts ripping on the Gem State's provincial homophobia.

    As I often do, I have to point out that this is southern Idaho.

    I wish there was some way to give the snake river valley to Utah.

    From the Weigel article: "That was the year Otter married Gay Simplot, " Let's see, his name is Butch Otter, and he married someone named Gay. Hmmmmmm.

  • Jennifer||

    So if I want to enter a float about ill effects of the Federal Reserve in my local St Patrick's Day parade, the city authorities have no right to say no?

    Dunno about that, but are you saying that expressing a political opinion is no different than expressing what you are? If I can't put a "Hooray for libertarians" float in a parade, that would still annoy me far less than people trying to silence me over "being a heterosexual woman" or "being of European descent" or "being shorter than average" -- I didn't choose any of that. It's just what I am.

    But how would the people of Twin Falls, Idaho, try to justify this? "Nothing wrong with being short, I just don't want to have to see it."

  • ||

    Butch Otter? Didn't she used to hang with [insert beaver joke here. Please!]

    Dyke Duck?
    Slit-Lick Squirrel?

  • ||

    Chris Potter, if you lived in New York, your local St. Patrick's Day parade would be sponsored by the Ancient Order of Hibernians, not by the city, which is why courts have correctly ruled that the Irish Lesbian and Gay Orgnization can be excluded from Manhattan's parade. Another group now sponsors a parade in Queens that welcomes gay and lesbian participants.

  • ktc2||

    You guys just fail to grasp the concentrated evil of the "homosexual agenda". School supplies is, of course, referring to young school children for sexual use and "paying" means going to jail. So to translate "Who is going to jail for fucking your young school kids?"

    Sheesh! You need to use your secret fundy decoder rings.

  • ||

    Sheesh! You need to use your secret fundy decoder rings.

    My Aunt keeps trying to give them to my family at Christmas time, but I throw mine away and keep trying to hide the one she gives my Mom.

  • ||

    So if I have irritable bowel syndrome, I can force the city to include a float consisting of a constantly plugged toilet overflowing with brown water accompanied by loud, repeating fart noises?

  • ||

    It all depends on how you believe. My experience in Idaho was that folks, in general, believe that folks choose to be gay. And if you choose your sin, it's ok to hate.

  • TallDave||

    Wait, doesn't this violate the separation of sex and state?

  • TallDave||

    My experience in Idaho was that folks, in general, believe that folks choose to be gay.

    To be fair, generally the anti-gay Christians believe people choose to have gay sex; whether they chose to be attracted to men/women/animals/children/shrubberies is immaterial as they're supposed to exercise moral restraint and avoid sex with anything not part of God's Plan despite their sinful urges. Love the sinner, hate the sin.

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    Chris Potter | June 9, 2008, 1:17pm | #

    So if I have irritable bowel syndrome, I can force the city to include a float consisting of a constantly plugged toilet overflowing with brown water accompanied by loud, repeating fart noises?"


    Per the homosexual bukkake theme, your request for float entry in the parade is denied.

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    To be fair, generally the anti-gay Christians believe people choose to have gay sex; whether they chose to be attracted to men/women/animals/children/shrubberies is immaterial as they're supposed to exercise moral restraint and avoid sex with anything not part of God's Plan despite their sinful urges. Love the sinner, hate the sin.

    This is all the official position, understand, not necessarily the practice in all instances

  • TallDave||

    Chris, you are hereby declared an enema of the state.

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    Who pays for school supplies?

    Mom and dad. Most moms and dads have heterosexual sex. Sometimes, and it's usually the fault of the children (and their expensive school supplies), mom and pop split up. Notice there are three letters in mom and three letters in dad. Mom Dad = Gay Sex.

    Sorry, my Adam West riddle decoder is broke (back), so I'm wingin this.

    Riddler to Batman: There are three men in a boat with cigarettes and no matches. How do they smoke?

    Bat Answer (may have come from Robin): Simple! They throw one cigarette overboard and make the boat a cigarette lighter.

  • Somber||

    The LP could really grab votes in a place like Idaho if they nominated someone with a long history of gay-bashing as their candidate.

    What's that you say? They did?

  • ||

    I lucked into being in Greenwich Village during the annual gay pride parade a few years ago.

    I wasn't shocked by anything I saw, except that I never realized that corporations were sponsoring their gay employee's floats.

    I can't imagine that the Starbucks in any other city would put up money for a "Gay Starbucks" float.

  • ||

    Also, does anyone else have that Built To Spill song stuck in their head now?

    Also, is anyone else a bit disturbed by how much they look like the guys in the "gayCHUBBYdating" ad?

    Not that there is anything wrong with that...

  • Episiarch||

    Riddler to Batman: There are three men in a boat with cigarettes and no matches. How do they smoke?

    Bat Answer (may have come from Robin): Simple! They throw one cigarette overboard and make the boat a cigarette lighter.


    Greatest. TV Show. Evar. For those who only watched it as kids, watch it again.

  • Jennifer||

    Irritable bowel syndrome? Damn, Chris, you'll stretch as far as you have to in order to justify an "Eeew, gays, ick" exception to the principle of "live and let live," won't you?

    "My God! They're shitting all over the landscape! It's just like being gay!"

  • ||

    So if I have irritable bowel syndrome, I can force the city to include a float consisting of a constantly plugged toilet overflowing with brown water accompanied by loud, repeating fart noises?

    Yes.

    You do understand that my defense of your right to express an opinion in a goverment sponsored parade in a fashion designed to be as broadly offensive as possible isn't meant to imply you aren't an asshole for drawing a moral equivalance between the existence of gay people and flatulence?

    To return to your St. Patrick's example, how would you feel if a city-sponsored parade banned all non-Catholics from participating, or forbid the marching band from a Protestant Bible college from printing the name of the institution on their big bass drum?

  • Jennifer||

    Who pays for school supplies? Mom and dad.

    Not even close. If you look at most public school system's per-child expenditures, and compare that to the average property taxes paid by households in that school district, you will find that pretty much any family with children is being heavily subsidized by childless taxpayers.

  • Buttress||

    Fags! Goddammit ... go away already! I am sick and tired of the light-in-the-loafers crowd subverting every party, state and community in the country ... take your sick and twisted idiocy somewhere else!

  • TallDave||

    I'd hate to be behind the goatse float.

    What about a float celebrating masturbation? The abstinence people should get behind that, in theory. I'd like one for casual heterosexual sex too.

  • TallDave||

    Oh, and we definitely need a "Three Girls One Cup" float.

  • stephen the goldberger||

    My parents paid for my school supplies. But I guess it depends how they define school supplies, since the school paid for some of my books and some supplies I needed while at school like masking tape and paper.

  • ||

    But I guess it depends how they define school supplies

    No, they paid for both... it's just with the one set they had help from the childfree couple down the street.

  • ||

    The LP could really grab votes in a place like Idaho if they nominated someone with a long history of gay-bashing as their candidate.

    Actually, I'm not so sure. This was a comment on a blog I came across, and I'm inclined to agree:


    I think I have mentioned before that good old red state Idaho is not red state because of anti-gay sentiment. Gays in Salmon, in Challis, in Idaho City and even in places like Yellow Pine, are a very much more conservative lot than the folks you mention from the Blue State Mecca's.

    For quite a few years Muriel Hemingway lived on Fourth of July Creek in Lemhi County and would party in town at the Owl Club or at the Salmon River Inn. Though some of us guys would shake our heads thinking how lucky the lesbian community was (Hey she was hot in those days), she was accepted until one day she showed up at Jack Cook's Silver Spur Sports to inform us all that Hunting was bad and that she was joining the anti hunting forces.

    You can be GLBT in Idaho, even in the back woods, but you had better have a hiding hole in Sun Valley or in Downtown Moscow if you want to be anti-hunting. Never mess with another man's water, his grazing rights, his mining claims and then perhaps consider not messing with his wife, but before all of those, don't mess with a man's hunting and fishing (For man there, you can switch in either sex, its all the same here as you know). The joys of plinking toys and of tackle boxes are more sacred than anybody's religious ideas about who should or should not be married.

    My best buddy, Steve, who taught my sons the joys of target practice with a Desert Eagle, tried living in Queen Anne Hill. He was never at home there, which may have had to do with his favorite T-shirt which reads "Gun Control is a good aim�?. He used to call me up beefing about how hard it was to get a relationship with any of the guys he would meet, because they did not share anything in common.

    Blue Staters and the Moral Majority types are losing it if they think that the issue that makes this state vote Red has anything to do with GLBT issues. It's really about water rights and property rights and access rights and hunting rights, the things that make us who we are as Idahoans regardless of sexual orientation.

  • stephen the goldberger||

    it's just with the one set they had help from the childfree couple down the street.

    Oh you mean the ghey childfree couples? IT ALL MAKES SENSE.

  • ||

    stephen the goldberger,

    Actually, now it does... interesting...

  • Arthur||

    Is being gay the only thing gay people can talk about? Is that just all there is to them?

    Get over yourselves! We don't care who you are having sex with! I don't thrust my alternative/BDSM sex life into every civic event I take part in, so why the hell should YOU be able to shove yours in everyone's face?

  • ||

    someone may have said this upthread, but...

    since when did rainbows become the sole province of the gay community?

    Kermit, Cheer Bear and Rainbow Brite may take exception to being discriminated against in this fashion.

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    Bronwyn,

    Kermit, Cheer Bear and Rainbow Brite

    All totally gay.

    The rainbow wasn't stole from them, they were advanced scouts for THE AGENDA.

    Just look at the facts!

    FACT: Kermit had a long-term platonic relationship with a loud-mouth fat girl. Plays acoustic guitar. GAY

    FACT: Cheer Bear. A "bear" is a large, hairy man in homosexual code. All the "bears" lived together. Grumby bear = typical bitchy queen. GAY

    FACT: Rainbow Brite's best friend is Twink. (!) Show was made by well-known homosexual corporation, Hallmark Cards. GAY

    GAY GAY GAY

  • ||

    NutraSweet, you just came *thisclose* to owing me a new keyboard.

  • Arthur||

    Lmfao!

  • ||

    What's the verdict on Rainbow Dash, then?

  • ||

    Kermit had a long-term platonic relationship with a loud-mouth fat girl. Plays acoustic guitar. GAY

    He's also got that weird clown collar and runs around naked all the time. Does he think every day is Mardi Gras or something?

  • Episiarch||

    Kermit had a long-term platonic relationship with a loud-mouth fat girl. Plays acoustic guitar.

    Also best "friends" with...a bear. Kermit likes them hairy. Plus, he runs a theater company!

    Don't get me started on Statler and Waldorf.

  • ||

    What's the verdict on Rainbow Dash, then?

    What do you mean? That's just a pretty little pony.

  • ||

    I swear to Dog that I watched a Rainbow Brite episode in college that this girl had and you used the closet to go to whatever rainbow land it was, and this young boy was trying to hide from his mom that he kept going to rainbow land whatever by staying in the closet...

  • ||

    Oh, ok. I didn't know if Rainbow Dash was just the transgendered persona of some stud named Dash :)

  • ||

    That's sick. It's just a child's toy, you know. Stop projecting.

  • ||

    Get over yourselves! We don't care who you are having sex with! I don't thrust my alternative/BDSM sex life into every civic event I take part in, so why the hell should YOU be able to shove yours in everyone's face?

    Because we're gay.

  • ||

    Reinmoose,

    You're probably thinking about:

    Brian

    The only boy on Earth who can see Rainbow Brite. After school one day he accidentally walks into a rainbow that Rainbow Brite had sent to cheer him up. This turns him many colors, and Rainbow Brite takes him to Rainbowland to remove them. He is given a special key which, when put in any lock, forms a rainbow which he can ride to Rainbowland. Brian has a dog that is only ever referred to as "Boy."

  • ||

    Yeah, that's probably him.
    I can't believe I got Rainbowland right... I was totally just making something up.

  • Bronwyn||

    *wipes tears*

    I know, NutraSweet.... it's a sickness.... help me!

  • Jennifer||

    Get over yourselves! We don't care who you are having sex with! I don't thrust my alternative/BDSM sex life into every civic event I take part in, so why the hell should YOU be able to shove yours in everyone's face?

    Not the same thing. BDSM involves what you do in bed, not who you do it with. Nobody accuses me of "shoving it in people's faces" when I hold hands with my boyfriend; if I chose to hold hands with a girlfriend instead it's no different.

  • Rhywun||

    St. Patrick's Day parade would be sponsored by the Ancient Order of Hibernians, not by the city



    Does the Order also pay for the security and for the "rental" (for lack of a better word) of Fifth Avenue for the duration of the parade?

    does anyone else have that Built To Spill song stuck in their head now?



    Yup. And I'm reminded my mom got us kids out of Idaho when I was young, too. It was Boise rather than Twin Falls but she always said it was really backward there. And any place more backward than where we wound up--Rochester, NY--has got to be *ass* backward.

  • ||

    Rhywun,

    I spent a couple of weeks there a few years ago. I thought it was pretty nice. Great houses. Though, everyone said I was amazing lucky concerning the weather.

  • ||

    They should have put a giant cutout of Larry Craig on their float

  • ||

    Rhywun -
    I have a friend who currently lives in Rochester so I follow the news there somewhat. Bass Ackwards does not begin to describe that city. I mean, the Fast Ferry? Come ON!

  • ||

    Does the Order also pay for the security and for the "rental" (for lack of a better word) of Fifth Avenue for the duration of the parade?

    No, Rhywun, they don't. I'm not sure why that's signficant. Would you really like it if any group that wanted to have an event in a public space--like say, a political group that wanted to have a rally--either pay to rent the space and provide security or allow anyone who wanted to participate to join in?

    If one of those "ex-gay" ministries wanted to put a float in the Gay Pride march in New York, do you think the Heritage of Pride should be forced to approve it? I'm sure Fred Phelps would love to take advantage of such a requirement.

  • Rhywun||

    If one of those "ex-gay" ministries wanted to put a float in the Gay Pride march in New York, do you think the Heritage of Pride should be forced to approve it?



    Yes. It's a public event that anyone should be allowed to participate in. Lord knows it would make the parade more interesting than the snorefest it's become. (Yay - another dance club! Oh looks, it's another politician... And a soft-drink company!)

  • cgee||

    "Who pays for school supplies?"

    Umm...the Stonecutters?

  • ||

    I just skimmed the comments. I apologize if this has already been done.

    The scene - The Gay Pride Parade, Main Street, Springfield

    Gay Pride Marchers: We're here! We're queer! Get used to it!
    Lisa Simpson: You do this every year! We are used to it!

    That's from a really old episode. Idaho should try joining the 20th century at least.

  • ||

    I don't think it's a public event in the way that's relevant. Yes, it takes place in public and makes use of some public resources. But it's not a governmental event--the bulk of the costs are not paid from taxes. I think it's better to forbid the government from discriminating in decisions of who is allowed to hold public events, rather than mandating that any event that occurs on public property become subject to government regulation. Don't Heritage of Pride and the Ancient Order of Hibernians have free speech rights that come in to play here--they want to say something with these parades, and unless they have control of the message, their right to make a public statmeent is compromised.

    Are you suggesting that any time wants a group wants to have an event that takes place in public they must cede all control? If the libertarian party wanted to hold a rally in a public park, would they have to allow representatives of the Democratic and Republican parties to make speeches? And the Larouchites and Socialist Workers Party as well?

  • Rhywun||

    Are you suggesting that any time wants a group wants to have an event that takes place in public they must cede all control?



    Yes. It's called "free speech". Grown-ups should have nothing to fear from contrasting viewpoints.

  • ktc2||

    Let's not forget the Church of Satan!

    I'm sure they want to borrow my 30' tall detailed lifelike statue of a giant horned Satan buggering the decaying corpse of christ from my lawn to enter in the parade.

    Nobody should object right?

  • ||

    I don't free speech requires that I provide a forum for others are events that I arrange. Can I demand that someone hold a parade for me to be in?

  • ||

    having lived a while in all three, I would suggest that Alabama and Mississippi are backward. Idaho, for the most part, is judt downright hateful. Gays, blacks, mexicans, indians, potheads,CALIFORNIANS!, and environmentalists beware.

  • ||

    judt=just

    sorry, I have a cold

  • ||

    having lived a while in all three, I would suggest that Alabama and Mississippi are backward. Idaho, for the most part, is judt downright hateful. Gays, blacks, mexicans, indians, potheads,CALIFORNIANS!, and environmentalists beware.

    So transgendered abortion doctors, Buddhist PETA activists and Jewish evolutionary biologists might want to think long and hard before relocating to these locales?

    Actually living in Mississippi for 14 months wasn't too bad. Being in the navy, a lot of us self segregated from the community. In Pascagouls the have a white VFW and a black VFW.

  • highnumber||

    Wow, some really thought provoking arguments from the homophobes!

    To be fair, I suppose that some of them are probably scared of sex with ladies, too.

  • ||

    Fred Phelps

    Patron Saint of Trolls.

    transgendered abortion doctors

    Definitely make for good antiheroes/antiheroines.

    This post itself is great. Great find by Howley.

  • First Little Pig||

    I lived in Idaho for a short spell. My sister could not get a job until she started putting her "Mormon Address" on her job applications (seriously, we had to find that out from my Father's Mormon secretary).

    And when I told this one young woman that I was an atheist she asked me (in all seriousness): "Doesn't that mean you worship the Devil?"

    When I explained that I did not believe in the Devil nor God nor anything it was a concept so outside of her universe she simply could not get her head around it. She even asked me -- after I explained the whole idea of non-belief -- "So, you don't go to Church?"

    This from a college student...

  • ||

    You should have told her you were a Scientologist. That reaction probably would have been good, too.

  • First Little Pig||

    Except that, assuming she was really familiar with her own religions' precepts, she would have been much more accepting of the whole Xenu myth than might have been the case had she been, say, a Baptist. The Mormon Myth includes extraterrestrials and their God (Elohim) lives on another planet (as do many good-Mormons who've passed on and colonized other worlds as well) and presumably she hopes that she will as well......

  • ||

    Good point. :D

  • Paul||

    Let's see here, "Western Days" parade traditionally features moustachioed men wearing leather chaps. Nothing gay about that.

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