February 25, 2008
On Wednesday, February 6, journalist and best-selling author Christopher Hitchens spoke to the students participating in the Washington Center for Politics & Journalism's "politics and journalism semester" in Washington, D.C.
Presented by the center's founder and executive director, Terry Michael, Hitchens' comments cover a lot of territory in his inimitable style. Watch the video to learn how The New York Times sets the political agenda, why The Washington Post still carries horoscopes, and how media bias really operates.
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Why more from from the bigoted neocon anti-religionist
Hitchens.
Reason's a pretty rational, consistent magazine, until it comes to
having to choose between anti-religious bigots and pro-religion
libertarians. Reason's editors take the former's side every
time.
Okay, almost every time :)
Did you happen to watch Reason-sponsored Hitchen's unreasoned
drunken rant against the filthy unwashed religious masses that are
collectively destroying the world and setting up concentration
camps for what remains?
My point: what value does an authoritarian, anti-libertarian neocon
like Hitchens add? Why the continual rolling out of the red carpet
for him? I'm sure even Huckabee says the occasional
libertarian-sounding sound-bite, and yet he's (rightly) not given
the podium at reason's friday night orgies.
jj | February 25, 2008, 4:47pm | #
Reason's a pretty rational...
Is that a 'Drink!' moment? I never can keep the rules
straight.
I guess I'll drink because of that. Glub.
And FWIW, I believe Hitchen's style is entirely Imitable. I simply
drink a 5th of scotch, smoke 2 packs of cigarettes, and read
Jonathan Swift at double speed while sweating profusely,
occasionally throwing in comments about 'viscious troglodites' and
'crypto-defeatists', and then say something about there being No
God mixed with the effects of arbitraray British colonial
boundaries providing us with the source of almost all the worlds
most serious regional conflicts. Oh, and Mother Theresa was a
self-congratulatory whore.
That said, his book reviews in the Atlantic are always really,
really, really good. The man can craft an essay like few other
living. See the latest one on "Memoirs of an Anti Semite"
i like hitchens too or used to like him more a few years ago
cause i liked his rebeling against the left in theory. he's sorta
like camilla paglia in that they're both smart but you're never
gonna agree with them on everything. it is strange that a lot of
libertarians like him like the reason staff, tucker carlson and
penn jillette when he's basically a leftist hawk.
you know what would be the best debate on the war in iraq ever?
christopher hitchens vs. ron paul. both are good debaters but have
never really argued against anyone who disagreed with them that was
as strong at debate as they are. hitchens usually debates
inarticulate anti-war liberals and paul has usually gone up against
inarticulate republican hawks (rudy) and they usually win. hitchens
is one of the only pro-war voices who's opinion and intelligence i
respect and paul is one of the best voices the anti-war movements
got (whether the left likes it or not) and i think that would be a
great debate cause neither would resort sneaky emotionalism tricks
like most people losing debates do.
My point: what value does an authoritarian, anti-libertarian
neocon like Hitchens add?
I think calling everyone who didnt particularly mind occupying Iraq
(as long as we had done it successfully) a "neocon" is kind of
weak. "Wrong?" = OK, most likely. But if you've read his copious
body of work, you'd realize he doesnt exactly fit any particular
category very easily.
I dont know where you get the anti-libertarian thing either. He's
more of a libertarian nihilist.
Nihilist: We believe in nothing, Lebowski.
Nothing. And tomorrow we come back and we cut off
your chonson.
The Dude: Excuse me?
Nihilist: I said [shouting] We'll cut off your
johnson!!!
Although he doesnt own a marmot AFAIK.
Hitch supports the billion dollar a week war against Jihadofascism, what could be more libertarian than that?
Reason's a pretty rational, consistent magazine,
until it comes [...]
Or written another way:
For a magazine called Reason...
Now that i've watched the segment, theres very little there to
disagree with, and he is eloquent and witty as always.
Hitchens is probably offensive to most Americans because he makes
them aware of precisely how inarticulate they are.
he's sorta like camilla paglia in that they're both smart
but you're never gonna agree with them on everything.
Bingo. I never miss la Paglia over at Slate, and I generally try to
read Hitchens.
I think the reason why the editors keep posting Hitchens stuff is because they want to see me happy. It's always nice to hear from someone intelligent who makes it a point not to give a fuck what other people think.
Hitchens is probably offensive to most Americans because he
makes them aware of precisely how inarticulate they are.
Hey now, I resemble that remark.
Suddenly I smelled scotch. I knew that there had to be a
Hitchens thread.
he makes them aware of precisely how inarticulate they
are.
He does speak good.
Ah, Christopher, why can't you be more like your brother
Peter?
http://hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co.uk/2008/02/now-who-are-the.html
Suddenly I smelled scotch. I knew that there had to be a
Hitchens thread.
I'm alsmost drunk - can I post on this therad?
I think the reason why the editors keep posting Hitchens
stuff is because they want to see me happy. It's always nice to
hear from someone intelligent who makes it a point not to give a
fuck what other people think.
That's why I love him.
I don't agree with his politics, but he's contrarian, unapologetic,
and a complete douchebag, so I am a fan of him.
Sam McManus | February 25, 2008, 6:37pm | #
I think the reason why the editors keep posting Hitchens stuff is
because they want to see me happy. It's always nice to hear from
someone intelligent who makes it a point not to give a fuck what
other people think.
Word.
I suppose that when an Evangelical Nutjob occupies the White
House, being anti-God grows similar to being Anti-Government.
Too bad he agrees with deciding what government is best for other
countries with our lives and our money. A shame, really...
I'd like to publicly retract my statements about Hitch being scotch-besotted as it has recently come to my attention that he prefers gin (as a Brit should).
Hitch is ok, but I imagine up close he'd have to be the biggest
fuckstick imaginable.
He's also (as a bedwetting agnostic who's more preoccupied with
World of Warcraft) put me off being an atheist. In fact, the whole
militant atheism movement is becoming dangerously like the People's
Front of Judea.
People believe in God ok.....they just do. I'd argue till i was
blue in the face for the separation of church and state but I don't
want to be part of a family or community who pour scorn on people
who mind their own business and think there's someone in the sky
who's looking after them.
The other think I don't like about the new Atheism movement is how
'white upper middle class male Englishman' it is. Hitch, Amis,
Dawkins and A C Grayling all getting their cocks out and measuring
them against one another. Ooooh chris look at my penis! Please look
at mine!!! And Amis in the background stroking his johnson and
inventing a new thirteen syllabled word for this next 7000 page
treatise on man, machine, sodomy and atheism (NYT review to say
like Bellow and Nobokov only more urgent).
Good Lord, I appear to have got sidetracked....
I don't want to be part of a family or community who pour
scorn on people who mind their own business and
think there's someone in the sky who's looking after
them.
Well, neither would Hitchens. Hitchens has made this explicit in
several debates. The problem is of course the mind your own
business part.
The other think I don't like about the new Atheism movement is
how 'white upper middle class male Englishman' it is.
I suppose those are valid criteria for not liking something. Not
sure how valid those criteria are for determining whether an idea
is correct or not. By the way Daniel Dennett, Sam Harris, and
Michael Shermer aren't English. There's also Ayaan Hirsi Ali who
somehow manages to not be male, white, nor English. But again, none
of that should really matter.
'Not sure how valid those criteria are for determining whether
an idea is correct or not.'
Oh no completely..banged to rights as they say. It's just, as an
English person, I wince everytime I hear Hitch and Amis on TV...I
mean what the fuck is the deal with their accents...they become
MORE and MORE English..they sound like something out of a bad PG
Wodehouse adaptation.
And discounting the class and sex issues, isn't there something
borrishly 'male' about these chaps who keep on telling us how we
should stop believing in God (not that I do) and start getting
boners everytime we see a fossil. 'Oooohh I wondered what THIS
evolved into?'
As I say, I agree with 99% of what Hitch says and he's an
undeniably amazing man, I just still think he's a complete
penis.
PS - how do I do italics and bolds?
Can someone please tell me why this site uses only the month and day for dates everywhere except for the comment threads?
As I read comments on Hitchens videos, I am often struck by how differently they see the man. In what capacity do you see Hitchens as an authoritarian JJ? A bigot? Seriously? Have you read anything hes written? Have you even been watching and reading the same Hitchens that I have? He is easily one of the greatest advocates for free thinking and free speech anywhere.
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