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Drudge Mentions Unfounded Rumor; Now the Rest of Us Are Free To Talk About It
Those Hillary rumors have finally entered the mainstream media, or at least the British papers and The Drudge Report. Sen. Clinton is alleged to be having an affair with her personal assistant. The Shyamalanesque twist: Her assistant is a woman!
This isn't the first lesbianism rumor to attach itself to the Democratic frontrunner. In the '90s, a certain sort of right-winger loved to lean in and tell you confidently that Bill Clinton had walked in on his wife having sex with Night Court's Markie Post. Appropriately, the rumor swung both ways: Another version had Hillary walking in on Bill with Markie Post. I assume the actual incident involved Warren Christopher and John Larroquette. You know how these things get exaggerated.
Elemenope|11.26.07 @ 12:39PM|#
Oh, fer God's sake, can we avoid making Shyamalan into an
adjective? He made some OK movies once; he's not the second coming
of Stanley Kubrick.
LOL, re: Larroquette and Christopher. it's like a Boston
Legal episode.
|11.26.07 @ 12:55PM|#
Ah yes,
Markie Post.
Hey, stop looking at me like that! Somebody had to provide a
cheesecake link.
|11.26.07 @ 12:55PM|#
John Larroquette is a libertarian.
Therefore he is a libertine.
Therefore he is gay.
Therefore he is promiscuous.
Therefore he is attached to the Clinton administration.
Therefore he was re-enacting the famous "gimp" scene from Pulp
Fiction with Warren Christopher.
Q.E.D.
|11.26.07 @ 12:59PM|#
Kind of ironic that Hillary Clinton would have the hottest First Lady in history.
|11.26.07 @ 1:04PM|#
I'll be the first to say it: Markie Post never did a thing for
me.
Now the personal assistant: Yow! Is there a hot PA vote?
Guy Montag|11.26.07 @ 1:04PM|#
In the '90s, a certain sort of right-winger loved to lean in
and tell you confidently that Bill Clinton had walked in on his
wife having sex with Night Court's Markie Post.
I missed all of that detail back then, just the rumor that cut
across both Left and Right that "the girls are not safe around Bill
but *nobody* is safe around Hillary". For years heard, mostly from
women, that Stephanopolis was on-the-other-team so to speak, and
that one did not seem to have a Party ownership either.
Finally figured they were just conjecture.
Now, if only that Senator's assistant would hookup with Markie
Post, there is some good fantasy material.
|11.26.07 @ 1:07PM|#
In all honesty, being reported by Drudge doesn't give a rumour a whole lot of credibility. I know he's been out in front at least once in the past, but even a blind pig finds an acorn once in a while. I want photos or a sworn deposition before I'll pay attention to this, soon to be called libelous, accusation.
|11.26.07 @ 1:09PM|#
Some background on Ms Huma via the New York Observer:http://www.observer.com/print/37040/full
|11.26.07 @ 1:11PM|#
Appropriately, the rumor swung both ways: Another version
had Hillary walking in on Bill with Markie Post.
Perhaps the two versions are compatible. I'm not sure of the
pronunciation, but I believe it's called menagerie a troy...
Guy Montag|11.26.07 @ 1:12PM|#
In all honesty, being reported by Drudge doesn't give a
rumour a whole lot of credibility.
That is why it was reported in the British papers first, silly.
R C Dean|11.26.07 @ 1:12PM|#
Appropriately, the rumor swung both ways.
Well, if Ms. Post swings both ways, then both could be true.
And tell me, if Bill were to walk in on Hillary and Markie in
flagrante, is there any way he wouldn't try to horn in on that
action?
|11.26.07 @ 1:13PM|#
I want photos
Dude, no you do not.
Think "two girls, one cup" is bad?
You'll puke for a month.
|11.26.07 @ 1:16PM|#
The version I heard was of Markie Post walking in on
Bill and Hillary.
Hmmm ... that was right about the time she dropped out of the
public eye, too... hmmm.
|11.26.07 @ 1:16PM|#
That is why it was reported in the British papers first,
silly.
In that case, it must be gospel!
|11.26.07 @ 1:16PM|#
First, M. Night Shyamalan only made 2 good movies - The Sixth
Sense, and Unbreakable.
Second, why in hell is this news? seriously, if I want gossip (from
DRUDGE ??? he is NOT a news source, sorry.) I don't want it from
Reason's blog, thanks.
|11.26.07 @ 1:22PM|#
Hmmm, this whole thing is tracking just like Adm. Cain and
Number 6 on BSG: Razor.
And you saw how that ended up.
|11.26.07 @ 1:23PM|#
And I didn't think that anything could improve my estimation of Hillary. Of course, the Markie Post rumor angle proves me wrong twice.
Episiarch|11.26.07 @ 1:25PM|#
Hmmm, this whole thing is tracking just like Adm. Cain and
Number 6 on BSG: Razor.
Why don't you just STFU? I have this on my DVR but haven't watched
it yet. If you ruin anything for me...
And you saw how that ended up.
NOT YET, SPOILER
Jesse Walker|11.26.07 @ 1:26PM|#
In all honesty, being reported by Drudge doesn't give a
rumour a whole lot of credibility.
Er, yes. Is there anyone on this thread who thinks otherwise?
|11.26.07 @ 1:26PM|#
If Hillary is eating that pie, then I have more respect for her than I have ever had before.
|11.26.07 @ 1:28PM|#
"In all honesty, being reported by Drudge doesn't give a rumour
a whole lot of credibility.
Er, yes. Is there anyone on this thread who thinks
otherwise?"
Remember when he got Bill Clinton's interracial love child from the
Brits? That was a howler.
R C Dean|11.26.07 @ 1:30PM|#
[clicks on personal assistant link]
Woof! She can assist my person any day!
miche|11.26.07 @ 1:32PM|#
I do that assistant and I'm happily married to a faithful man. I certainly wouldn't blame Hilary if it's true.
robc|11.26.07 @ 1:34PM|#
Tom G,
Unwatchable was not a good movie.
Great plot concept, bad execution. Now, if it had been just a touch
(not a lot) campy, it might have been good.
Episiarch|11.26.07 @ 1:35PM|#
That should've been I'd do...
It was much funnier with the Freudian slip typo.
|11.26.07 @ 1:35PM|#
Why don't you just STFU? I have this on my DVR but haven't
watched it yet. If you ruin anything for me...
Shit Epi, my bad.
crawls back to non-Tivo'ed life....
robc|11.26.07 @ 1:47PM|#
If this rumor is true, wouldnt it be "rape" because of the power
difference?
Not that Im up on my feminist theory or anything.
|11.26.07 @ 1:49PM|#
When I was entering puberty, I thought Hillary was hot (I
admit with shame).
Don't feel too bad. When I was negotiating puberty, I thought
Barbra Streisand was hot. Testosterone obviously doesn't make you
any smarter.
Franklin Harris|11.26.07 @ 1:50PM|#
I do that assistant and I'm happily married to a faithful man. I certainly wouldn't blame Hilary if it's true.
If she is, it would be the first good decision she's ever made.
Franklin Harris|11.26.07 @ 1:54PM|#
I'm assuming Hillary is the, er, dominant one.
Actually, Hillary is probably the female equivalent of the
overachieving, Type-A executive who hires a professional dominatrix
to spank him and make him dress as a schoolgirl. At least I hope
so, because, of the two of them, Hillary's assistant would
definitely look better in leather.
thoreau|11.26.07 @ 1:54PM|#
Given that the responses to this rumor run from humorous to voyeuristic, I wonder if Republicans will decide not to pursue it. You don't want to try to get somebody with an allegation if the only response is "Cool!"
Fluffy|11.26.07 @ 1:55PM|#
robc, the whole point of Unbreakable is that there's no
camp.
It's a superhero story played absolutely straight.
In some ways it's useful to think of The Sixth Sense as a
ghost story played absolutely straight as well.
M. Night went off the rails when he stopped playing it straight,
actually. If The Village had been "hidden environment
story played absolutely straight" it might have been better.
|11.26.07 @ 1:56PM|#
Gennifer Flowers once asked Bill if the rumors were true about Hillary being a lesbian. She said Bill laughed and said, "Hell, she's licked more pussy than I have."
Tacos mmm...|11.26.07 @ 1:59PM|#
*clicks link to picture of assistant*
Fuckin' SHWING.
She looks eerily like Rosalyn's personaly assistant in the recent
Battlestar Galactica series. At least in this photo.
|11.26.07 @ 1:59PM|#
regardlesss of how it makes Senator Clinton look, wow, she's got better taste in women than her husband if this is true.
|11.26.07 @ 2:01PM|#
thoreau,
The views and opinions of those on a particular libertarian site do
not reflect the views and opinions of right wing nutjobs in
general, or jealous housewives....
robc|11.26.07 @ 2:02PM|#
Fluffy,
The problem with unbreakable isnt (just) that its played straight.
Its that it is boring. Lift weights, add 5 lbs, Hey I can still
lift it, add 5, repeat for next 15 minutes.
Also, what was with the scene staring at each other over
breakfast?
I could have dealt with straight if there had been something else
there. I was bored during the movie. The last 5 minutes rocked, but
I didnt care by then.
I think the story really needed a guy he thought was the
arch-villian, captures/kills him, only then discovers that guy
wasnt the head guy, he was just working for Mr. Glass.
Episiarch|11.26.07 @ 2:03PM|#
You don't want to try to get somebody with an allegation if
the only response is "Cool!"
Sort of like on South Park when Ike was sleeping with his hot
teacher, and when Kyle tried to expose this, the only responses he
got from people (all male) was "Your brother's sleeping with Mrs.
X? Niiiiiice."
thoreau|11.26.07 @ 2:06PM|#
Lost in Translation-
True, but the responses here are consistent with the observed
popularity of certain forms of entertainment in the marketplace.
DEMAND KURVE!
:)
|11.26.07 @ 2:06PM|#
Given that the responses to this rumor run from humorous to voyeuristic, I wonder if Republicans will decide not to pursue it. You don't want to try to get somebody with an allegation if the only response is "Cool!"
I suspect the purpose of the story is to galvanize homophobes
against her. I'm just puzzled at the idea that there are useful
numbers of people homophobic enough to oppose her for that reason
who wouldn't vote for one of the mainstream Red candidates
anyway.
|11.26.07 @ 2:07PM|#
re : LiT
But in this case, they probably do track pretty closely with
independent males, a demographic Clinton didn't have a chance with
before.
thoreau|11.26.07 @ 2:10PM|#
All I know is that if the Clintons can promise us another 4 to 8
years of amusing sex scandals, they might just win.
Certainly the major media companies will go for that. With the
writers on strike they need something to fill airtime.
|11.26.07 @ 2:10PM|#
*clicks link to picture of assistant*
Fuckin' SHWING.
Oh geez. I thought we turned the corner on anorexic=hot.
OT It's 2007, does anyone believe outing Hillary as bi/les will
hurt her politically? If anything, it will attract more people,
especially if that Markie Post rumor has legs. (heh)
|11.26.07 @ 2:11PM|#
From the Observer article cited above:
"I'd call Huma one in a million," said Mrs. Clinton's press
secretary, Philippe Reines, "but that would mean there are 5,999
others in the world just like her, and there simply aren't. She is
truly one of a kind, one in a billion."
Which means there are at least five others out there just like her.
Cylons, fembots, clones, Gua? You be the judge.
Or perhaps Reines is just math-challenged.
iowan|11.26.07 @ 2:11PM|#
My middle-aged wife already views Ms Clinton with utter disgust over her tolerance and enabling of Mr Clinton's womanzing. She also represents a large demographic that finds guy men to be amuzing, but lesbians to be chilling. This will not go over well with the soccer-moms.
Episiarch|11.26.07 @ 2:14PM|#
Cylons, fembots, clones, Gua?
Wow, a First
Wave reference. Well done, sir. First JW spoils Battlestar for
me, then you reference Cade Foster. This thread just keeps on
truckin'.
|11.26.07 @ 2:19PM|#
joe equated the experience of First Lady to that of Chief of
Staff or other political appointee in the thread that Guy
references. Uh, huh. She was buried under the cold, cold ground as
far as overt policy involvement went after the healthcare
fiasco.
Chelsea is another story. She told her father to capture bin Laden,
but he just wouldn't listen. Presidential caliber there, for sure.
I know how I'll be voting in 2016.
|11.26.07 @ 2:19PM|#
I'm just puzzled at the idea that there are useful numbers
of people homophobic enough to oppose her for that reason who
wouldn't vote for one of the mainstream Red candidates
anyway.
If this were coming out after the nomination, it would be one
thing. But coming out now, the motivation is to point out to
Democrats that Hilary might be unelectable because of some
skeletons (insert anorexia joke here) in her closet. And since
Democrats view non-Democrats as racist and homophobic zealots, the
threat of a lesbian scandal is more damaging in their imagination
than it would be in real life.
Guy Montag|11.26.07 @ 2:24PM|#
And since Democrats view non-Democrats as racist and
homophobic zealots, the threat of a lesbian scandal is more
damaging in their imagination than it would be in real
life.
With their crazy imagenations of what is important to non-Dems they
might as well point out the 'fact'* that she did not take the name
Clinton until quite some time after marriage and into a
campaign.
*Not remembering if it is a fact, but they could float that rumor
too and look just as foolish as pointing out that non-Dems get
divorced too.
|11.26.07 @ 2:24PM|#
First JW spoils Battlestar for me
Aw c'mon, really, I'm SORRY. Jeez...
Seriously, it's not spoiled. There's a lot more going on; much more
back story.
Fluffy|11.26.07 @ 2:25PM|#
There are people who find lesbians chilling?
That's funny, out of just about every type of person one could have
as neighbors, I would think lesbians would be right up there on the
list. They will never make any noise. The cops will never come to
their house for a domestic disturbance. They will never break into
your house and steal anything. They will not try to have sex with
your preteen children. They are very likely to do artsy craftsy
stuff that makes the neighborhood look better during the holiday
season. Etc.
Episiarch|11.26.07 @ 2:25PM|#
Aw c'mon, really, I'm SORRY. Jeez...
Seriously, it's not spoiled. There's a lot more going on; much more
back story.
We'll see...
|11.26.07 @ 2:26PM|#
Wow. Forget the lesbian issue or non-issue. The woman was raised from 2 until she entered college in Jedda, Saudi Arabia. She grew up in a culture under the veil, or possibly at the very outside of. I find that very interesting. Whether it's good, bad, or doesn't-matter depends, I suppose. But it's certainly of interest.
iowan|11.26.07 @ 2:27PM|#
I'm just puzzled at the idea that there are useful numbers
of people homophobic enough to oppose her for that reason who
wouldn't vote for one of the mainstream Red candidates
anyway.
Iowa, New Hampshire, Michigan (not in play), Nevada, South
Carolina, Florida all in January. I'm guessing there are enough
socially-conservative democrats in these states (the populist wing
of the party) to put Hillary's march to the coronation into
question if there is even a remote possibility that she is
lesbian.
iowan|11.26.07 @ 2:30PM|#
There are people who find lesbians chilling?
Ick factor. Gay men straight women can hang out and talk for hours
about common interests. But alot of straight, middle-aged women get
knots in their stomaches when confronted with an "out" lesbian.
|11.26.07 @ 2:30PM|#
JAL: Unless Hillary actually is hitting that, why in God's name would the birthplace of her personal assistant matter one whit?
|11.26.07 @ 2:36PM|#
"Iowa, New Hampshire, Michigan (not in play), Nevada, South
Carolina, Florida all in January. I'm guessing there are enough
socially-conservative democrats in these states (the populist wing
of the party) to put Hillary's march to the coronation into
question if there is even a remote possibility that she is
lesbian."
I would think that Hillary would be hurt in Iowa which is a
conservative farm state. That could give Obama and Edwards just the
edge they need to put her in 3rd place in that state. If she
finishes 3rd in Iowa, Democrats all over the country will have
second thoughts about her. She might even fail to get the
nomination. I hope, I hope!
Urkobold™|11.26.07 @ 2:39PM|#
THIS RUMOR SIMPLY HIGHLIGHTS THE MAJOR WEAKNESS IN CLINTON'S CAMPAIGN: SHE'S NOT HOT ENOUGH TO BECOME AMERICA'S FIRST FEMALE PRESIDENT.
Episiarch|11.26.07 @ 2:42PM|#
SHE'S NOT HOT ENOUGH TO BECOME AMERICA'S FIRST FEMALE
PRESIDENT
True. If an older woman is going to try for president, she has to
at least be Sela Ward or better.
|11.26.07 @ 2:44PM|#
Newsflash: A new Zogby poll is out which shows Hillary losing and losing big to the top 5 Republican candidates, Giuliani, Romney, Thompson, McCain, and Huckabee. The same poll shows Obama defeating all 5 Republicans. Democrats should seriously consider changing horses. Hillary looks like an old sway back nag now.
iowan|11.26.07 @ 2:46PM|#
. . . Iowa which is a conservative farm state.
Not exactly.
Home of Senator Tom Harkin, one of the most liberal senators in
office today.
Also home of Senator Chuck Grassley, one of the most conservative
senators in office today.
On average, probably more conservative socially and more populist
economically than the majority of the country. There is a lot of
manufactoring here, and so there is a significant labor movement in
the state. National health care and social security are big issues
on the democratic side in this election, in my opinion.
|11.26.07 @ 2:48PM|#
SHE'S NOT HOT ENOUGH TO BECOME AMERICA'S FIRST FEMALE
PRESIDENT.
hmmm. Interesting perspective. Casting aside such obvious
non-contenders as America's Top Model contestants, anyone from a
major motion picture produced in the last 10 years, and all the
Reason banner ad females, who might be a hot enough first female
president? Olympia Snow?
|11.26.07 @ 2:48PM|#
You sure about that Rattlesnake. In the privacy of the voting booth (or airport bathroom) you never can tell what's going to make those social conservatives flip that switch:) They just may like that visual too much to let it slip away:) I'm no fan of Hillary, but I'm kinda turned on by the story even though I'm sure it's fiction. I'd rather see Markie Post and the PA though. Sorry if that's been said already.
|11.26.07 @ 2:50PM|#
Here in Sunday school,(southern baptist,) the homophobes are
almost exclusively not lesbophobes. They reason that gay men are
recruiting kids to the lifestyle and are seemingly sure that all
gay men are into kids. Gay women are a product of a bad experience
and need love and forgiveness. An interesting double
standard.
Hillary being a crack snacker is not a politically damaging thing
amongst the faithful. Larry Craig is a different story
Xmas|11.26.07 @ 2:52PM|#
Fluffy,
I find your stereotyping of lesbians quite amusing. And quite
wrong.
Two of the most emotionally destructive break-up stories amongst my
friends involved the end of an lesbian relationship.
Also, that reminds me of my favorite lesbian joke..."What do
lesbians do for a second date?"
ed|11.26.07 @ 2:55PM|#
does anyone believe outing Hillary as bi/les will hurt her
politically?
Uh, yes. Woman candidate? One strike. Lesbian candidate? Two
strikes. Get Obama to be her running mate and we'll get to witness
a whoopin' and a lynchin'. Metaphorically, of course. Hear
that sound? It's the the GOP salivating.
|11.26.07 @ 2:55PM|#
Hilary is a lesbian??
Crap, now I have to vote for her or everyone will call me a gay
basher.
Episiarch|11.26.07 @ 2:57PM|#
Also, that reminds me of my favorite lesbian joke..."What do
lesbians do for a second date?"
Well, what?!?
And Fluffy, there is supposedly a lot of physical abuse that goes
on in lesbian relationships. Not being a lesbian, I am unable to
confirm this.
|11.26.07 @ 3:02PM|#
Eric the .5b
I suspect the purpose of the story is to galvanize homophobes
against her. I'm just puzzled at the idea that there are useful
numbers of people homophobic enough to oppose her for that reason
who wouldn't vote for one of the mainstream Red candidates
anyway.
Oh JihadWatch is all over this, but not because of the lesbianism,
but because the lady in question is clearly a mole for the
terrorists. There'll be prayer rugs in the West
Wing..OMGZ>>>>
|11.26.07 @ 3:05PM|#
Yep, I see how people that wouldn't vote for her to begin with. But amongst the "independent middle" I think carpet munching is a net gain for the Hildabeast.
|11.26.07 @ 3:13PM|#
In all seriousness, this would be hugely damaging to HRC not
because of the lesbianism in and of itself, but because it would be
one more, MAJOR instance of Hillary not being forthright with the
American public.
Where's joe?
|11.26.07 @ 3:20PM|#
For some reason, when I saw this article, the phrase: "Bagged-up, dried-out slunken meat like you and Michelle Triola," kept running circles in my mind....
iowan|11.26.07 @ 3:20PM|#
. . .but because it would be one more, MAJOR instance of
Hillary not being forthright with the American public.
Yup, and people have discussed for years why she puts up with Bill.
The cynical view is that she stays with Bill to further her
political career. The optimistic view is that she stays because she
really does love him. Evidence that she is involved with a woman
would only leave the cynical view as a possibility.
This would be negative for her in many ways beyond Red-state
knee-jerk homophobia.
|11.26.07 @ 3:31PM|#
joe, joe, joe.
I imagine he'd have something intelligent to add to the mix. joe's
a left winger for sure, but he does understand politics.
|11.26.07 @ 3:31PM|#
...it would be one more, MAJOR instance of Hillary not being
forthright with the American public.
Well, at least we know how she weathered the Lewinski Scandal so
well.
Seriously, I think the Clintons' approach to scandal is as
follows:
1: Ignore it
2: Get caught at lots of other things
3: Eventually, the American public will become desensitized to it
all, and stop giving a shit...
Bold, perhaps, but damn if it doesn't work!
|11.26.07 @ 3:46PM|#
Xmas,
What do they do?
Perhaps former NJ Governor Christie Whitman. While not hot, not
scary? Condi?
|11.26.07 @ 3:53PM|#
Poor Markie Post (assuming the old rumors were false). From what little I know about her, she doesn't seem to have done anything to deserve being dragged through the mud like that.
Elect Elizabeth Ward Gracen|11.26.07 @ 3:56PM|#
Why not vote for me? I actually slept with the ex-president. And
with Markie Post.
Here's my slogan: There can be only one.
Guy Montag|11.26.07 @ 4:09PM|#
slightly OT: The new Diva Village ads are a lackluster, but welcome, replacement for the "I survived roe v. wade" chick ads.
|11.26.07 @ 4:10PM|#
Ahh, the reliable right wing mind, hey that pants suit short
haired woman who wants a position of power, wouldn't it be funny
and somehow approopriate if that woman was a LESBIAN!?!
And they wonder why there is no Daily Show for the Right...
It's stupid things like this that give someone like Hillary, who
has little qualifications to justify her support, that teflon coat
that allows her position of power...Most thinking people assume
that these cracks on her are the all too obvious, predictable,
substaniveless macho horseplay...
|11.26.07 @ 4:11PM|#
zig zag,
But you don't understand...then he'd have to buy some orgy clothes,
and get an orgy haircut...
|11.26.07 @ 4:14PM|#
If joe were here I would guess he could comment on his very insightful "Mondalization of the Right" theory. Mondale's supporters went around essentially talking about whether Reagan's horns were six inches long or two inches long and whether his tail was prehensile and what kind of pitch fork he had. Their hyperbole made it impossible for most folks to ever see him as a devil...Now the right does it for Billary, giving them that nice teflon coat and making them popular in a party that by all rights should kick her in her rump...
|11.26.07 @ 4:14PM|#
# Episiarch | November 26, 2007, 2:14pm | #
## Cylons, fembots, clones, Gua?
# Wow, a First Wave reference. Well done, sir.
# First JW spoils Battlestar for me, then you
# reference Cade Foster.
The cited Observer itself asked, "is she human?" The Gua came to
mind because their human "husks" were designed to be sexy, all the
better to allow the hosts to infiltrate the corridors of power,
given that we humans were so easily susceptible to sex and the
promise of it, and our industrial and political leaders all the
moreso.
I miss FW, at least the episodes from the first year or two. I
always thought that Sebastian Spence would have been the perfect
casting for a young (immediately pre TOS) Captain Kirk in any Star
Trek prequel, if someone could have trained him to mimic the
Shatner/Kirk cadence realistically (as Ewan MacGregor channeled
Alec Guinness in Star Wars, for example). Funny you should mention
Battlestar Galactica, as this was the last place I saw Spence. He
still looked as if he could step in as Captain Kirk, were more
TOS-era episodes ever to be made by Paramount. But I guess he was
"too old" to play cadet (or is it Lt.) Kirk in Abrams' upcoming
prequel movie. And even if that movie is successful and brings ST
back to TV, my money is on Beowulf-class or better CGI "actors" to
resurrect the original aspects of the TOS crew for home video once
more. Just as our politicians may someday never interact directly
with the people -- ostensibly for security reasons, out of fear of
"terrists," but mostly because they are CGI creations based on
polls and focus groups, and exist on the video screen only.
Honestly, how many of today's voters have actually ever seen a
presidential candidate in person, much less the sitting President,
much less had a chance to meet and shake hands with either? We
might as well be voting for CGI images on a screen.
Episiarch|11.26.07 @ 4:24PM|#
I always thought that Sebastian Spence would have been the
perfect casting for a young (immediately pre TOS) Captain Kirk in
any Star Trek prequel
Maybe. Attempting to have anybody play Kirk is asking for disaster,
as the fans would be pissed unless the actor managed some
nigh-impossible perfect impression that pleased everyone.
I guess he was "too old" to play cadet (or is it Lt.) Kirk in
Abrams' upcoming prequel movie.
I have not heard about this. What is the project?
my money is on Beowulf-class or better CGI "actors" to
resurrect the original aspects of the TOS crew for home video once
more
Not right now--this Final Fantasy-level CGI is supremely expensive.
It will get cheaper, but not for a while.
|11.26.07 @ 4:27PM|#
Honestly, how many of today's voters have actually ever seen
a presidential candidate in person, much less the sitting
President, much less had a chance to meet and shake hands with
either?
I shook hands with Bob Dole when he was running in '96. I even
remembered to extend the left hand.... Met Steve Forbes back then
too.
I sure can pick 'em.
Guy Montag|11.26.07 @ 4:30PM|#
Sen. Clinton is alleged to be having an affair with her
personal assistant.
I am imagening a (modified) Beowulf Cluster of those!
|11.26.07 @ 4:31PM|#
I remember my old history prof telling me that William Jennings
Bryan shook so many hands in one of his Presidential campaigns that
HIS HANDS BLED.
I for one would rather see these folks on tv thank you.
|11.26.07 @ 4:33PM|#
Attempting to have anybody play Kirk is asking for disaster,
as the fans would be pissed unless the actor managed some
nigh-impossible perfect impression that pleased
everyone.
Too
late. Having Zachary Quinto (Sylar) play Spock isn't too bad on
casting. Might work out OK.
Guy Montag|11.26.07 @ 4:37PM|#
Will the Kirk impersonators be singing "Rocket Man" better than
Shatner?
BTW, the best "Rocket Man" cover EVAH is by Fistfull of Bacon.
Episiarch|11.26.07 @ 4:44PM|#
Too late. Having Zachary Quinto (Sylar) play Spock isn't too
bad on casting. Might work out OK.
OH FUCK. I will now have to look into this, but I will take the
default (and almost always correct) assumption that it will be
awful. If I am wrong, at least I am pleasantly surprised.
|11.26.07 @ 4:45PM|#
@jw
Based on your track record would you do all of us a favor and find
Giuliani and shake his hand?
|11.26.07 @ 4:59PM|#
Based on your track record would you do all of us a favor
and find Giuliani and shake his hand?
You betcha; I'll snag Romney, HRC and Edwards while I'm at it. My
touch alone is poll-death incarnate.
Where 'dey at?
|11.26.07 @ 5:22PM|#
Fuckability has a lot to do winning the presidency. Since women don't spend any time considering issues or reading news, what other basis do they have to decide on? And I have a thousand dollars down on the fact that most women won't find Hillary very fuckable.
R C Dean|11.26.07 @ 5:25PM|#
I suspect the purpose of the story is to galvanize
homophobes against her.
I suspect the purpose of the story is to sell newspapers and run up
hit counters. But that's just me, being cynical.
|11.26.07 @ 5:31PM|#
Actually, I placed the bet before I realized Hillary had Mark Warner's FBI file too.
|11.26.07 @ 5:37PM|#
If anyone cares, the answer to the what-do-lesbians-do-for-a-second-date joke (2:52pm) is "they call U-Haul" (or otherwise do something related to moving in with one another). It plays off a stereotype of lesbians as incredibly monogamous.
|11.26.07 @ 5:41PM|#
OH FUCK. I will now have to look into this, but I will take
the default (and almost always correct) assumption that it will be
awful. If I am wrong, at least I am pleasantly
surprised.
Episiarch,
Given that sequels USUALLY suck and, in my
experience, prequels always do, it likely won't be a pleasant
experience.
lunchstealer|11.26.07 @ 6:08PM|#
If I were to go for a president's assistant, I'd go for President Roslin's assistant. No, not that one, silly. That one.
|11.26.07 @ 6:14PM|#
and my attempt at URL tags failed
Here
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/143/388148772_a8757d0fb9.jpg
http://perles.effisk.net/blog/images/misc/yuliatymoshenko/yulia-tymoshenko-collier.jpg
|11.26.07 @ 6:26PM|#
sequels USUALLY suck and, in my experience, prequels always
do...
J Sub D,
Uhh, hello? Batman Begins? Far superior to any of the others, and
almost passes as a not-a-comic movie.
Am I wrong?
|11.26.07 @ 6:37PM|#
Uhh, hello? Batman Begins? Far superior to any of the
others, and almost passes as a not-a-comic movie.
Am I wrong?
Taktix®,
No you aren't. I stand corrected. That moves prequels to the
usually sucks category. Like Elvis movies. ;-)
|11.26.07 @ 7:04PM|#
Well, I've looked at this assistant of Hillary's, this Huma
Abedin.
Smashing, baby!
She's one bird that I wouldn't mind ... a-beddin'! Ah, ha
ha ha.
I'd like to further develop my ... sense of Huma! Ah, ha
ha ha.
Just play along, baby. Huma me. Ah, ha ha ha.
All right, I'm spent.
Neighbor of Lesbians|11.26.07 @ 7:04PM|#
That's funny, out of just about every type of person one could have
as neighbors, I would think lesbians would be right up there on the
list. They will never make any noise. The cops will never come to
their house for a domestic disturbance. They will never break into
your house and steal anything. They will not try to have sex with
your preteen children.
Oh man you haven't lived around a lot of lesbians. Anecdote aside
(and I have plenty), I'll bet there are social statistics showing a
disproportionate amount of domestic and child abuse/neglect among
lesbians
Mad Max|11.26.07 @ 7:11PM|#
130 posts! As opposed to 14 for the IVF post, which at least raised some scientific and legal issues to justify the prurient interest.
|11.26.07 @ 7:45PM|#
Neighbor of Lesbians - you could have just said, "Haven't you ever watched Cops?" Proof that not all homosexuals are urban, urbane, wealthy, well-dressed types; they're well represented in the trailer park set as well... I dunno about "a disproportionate number", though. Given that they're women, who are generally a bit more law-abiding and less violent, I'd guess they're probably about the same as any other people.
|11.26.07 @ 8:28PM|#
The Brit paper is the Times of London, a formerly repectable newspaper that's now a Murdoch rag, correct?
Guy Montag|11.26.07 @ 9:29PM|#
JD,
No kidding. But my experience sounds more limited than yours.
Also, in college, I had women friends who were very agressively
persued by women who usually tended to be on the "butch" side. I
would be all "why don't you say something to her like you do to
guys hitting on you" and they expected ME to do that for them, for
some reason.
Never figured out that dynamic.
BakedPenguin|11.26.07 @ 11:09PM|#
speaking of hot politicians... Yulia Tymoshenko w/ Bill Clinton... She's gorgeous
LIT, while I agree with you about Yulia, have you been paying
attention to the thread topic? How about Yulia with
Alessandra Mussolini (SFW), the
hottest (NSFW) fascist I've ever seen.
|11.26.07 @ 11:12PM|#
I worked at a print shop that employed several lesbians,
including my boss. Up until then, my impression of lesbians was
what you saw in Penthouse magazine. I found at that IRL, a lot of
lesbians are very bitter. And my boss, who was drop-dead gorgeous,
showed up at work bruised on more than one occasion. Not to suggest
that all lesbians are bitter and abusive, but it does happen.
But apart from all that, why should it really matter. I have always
thought that the Republicans made a tactical error when they
attacked Bill Clinton on personal grounds rather than policy
grounds. There's enough to dislike about Hillary Clinton's
politics. I could care less about her sex life.
Guy Montag|11.26.07 @ 11:35PM|#
Harpua,
Both parties attack on personal grounds. Reagan was attacked for
having more than one marriage in his past, as if anybody cares
about that. That is a "win a bet" one you can get from the Dems.
Also, being single for a Republican is a big one from the Dems.
|11.27.07 @ 12:14AM|#
Some studies show the rates of domestic abuse in lesbian
relationships to be marginally higher than in straight
relationships.
Annoy a feminist with that datum.
http://www.murdoch.edu.au/elaw/issues/v3n4/vickers.html#n24
[Gwat-Yong Lie & S. Gentlewarrier. 'Intimate Violence in
Lesbian Relationships: Discussion of Survey Findings and Practice
Implications', (1991) 15 Journal of Social Service Research 46, The
Haworth Press.
|11.27.07 @ 12:35AM|#
I was engaged to a bisexually woman, and "the butch," if you will, and from that experience, let me say that I still don't understand women...
|11.27.07 @ 12:36AM|#
...and by "the butch" I don't want to mitigate the fact that she was really hot though...
|11.27.07 @ 1:31AM|#
Yow - 145 responses?
The Sixth Sense was dreadful. It would make a good, but overly long
story arc on Days of Our Lives, maybe.
So I thought the reference was snide and therefore funny.
Someone Who Doesn\'t Want to L|11.27.07 @ 1:32AM|#
Taktix:
Uhh, hello? Batman Begins? Far superior to any of the others,
and almost passes as a not-a-comic movie.
Am I wrong?
You are not wrong in it being FAR
superior to the others. However, I would say that it isn't exactly
a prequel; it's more like a relaunch.
Someone Who Doesn\'t Want to L|11.27.07 @ 1:33AM|#
Being dragged to an Indigo Girls concert is not physical
abuse.
That's my new e-mail signature!
Mad Max|11.27.07 @ 1:50AM|#
I would imagine that Republicans would go for the Muslim angle
rather than the gay angle. "Abedin is a Muslim who grew up in Saudi
Arabia. Her father is some kind of middle-eastern studies
professor, and her mother was a professor in Saudi Arabia. Heh,
heh, I bet the students had trouble hearing her mother's lecures
under that burkha of hers. Now they say that Abedin is a trusted
counselor of Hillary on Middle East issues. This is an example of
the threat of Islamofascistdoodooheadism," etc.
For me, the intersting part of the article about her was
this:
"Ms. Abedin began working for Mrs. Clinton as an intern for the
then First Lady in 1996."
The mid-1990s was a good time for Clinton interns, wasn't it? At
least Lewinsky didn't have that rail-thin, heroin chic look that
Abedin seems to have.
|11.27.07 @ 2:48AM|#
regardlesss of how it makes Senator Clinton look, wow, she's
got better taste in women than her husband if this is
true.
Well of course, that's obvious - isn't it? I mean, after all, look
at what Cigar Bill married.
|11.27.07 @ 2:57AM|#
Poor Markie Post (assuming the old rumors were false). From
what little I know about her, she doesn't seem to have done
anything to deserve being dragged through the mud like
that.
Well you know how that old saying goes: Lie down with a
dog bitch, get up with fleas.
|11.27.07 @ 7:48AM|#
John Larroquette gay? I thought he was heterosexual and married, but now upon joining the cast of Boston Legal, I'm starting to question that. All the men on that show seem way too gay for their own good.
|11.27.07 @ 8:17AM|#
So while Israel has its girl busy compromising the President, Saudi Arabia has a girl busy compromising the first lady. I wonder how much policy blackmail they paid out before he got busted? The Clinton's recklessness already cost us millions, do we really want eight more years of this?
|11.27.07 @ 1:44PM|#
God, I love Clinton conspiracies. The Lesbian Hillary one is a
fave. Remember when the Secret Service was out recruiting underaged
girls for her?
It's enough to make me half-wish she would win the next election.
The late-night comedians really had the Bill/Hillary relationship
jokes down by the late 90s.
|11.27.07 @ 11:22PM|#
Sheesh. Next thing you know they'll be saying Eleanor
Roosevelt was gay.
Then there's the one I heard a few years ago about how Jackie
Onassis supposedly slept with JFK. But seriously, folks: What's the
point of all this? Has is occurred to anyone that the type of
person who would be put off by the notion that Hillary is a
carpet-muncher is probably not your garden variety Blue Stater to
begin with...
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