Ronald Bailey | December 5, 2006
Dewar's scotch is running a double page ad celebrating the 73rd anniversary of the repeal of Prohibition in the New York Times today. The ad reprints the front page of the December 5, 1933 New York Times "To Remind You Just How Bad It Could Have Been." The New York Times headline reads, "Legal Liquor Due Tonight: City Ready to Celebrate: Stores to Open Tomorrow." An interesting subhead notes the economic effect of eliminating black markets: "Repeal Cuts Price of Drinks in Half."
Unfortunately, there is no end in sight yet for the similarly insane War on Drugs.
Disclosure: I don't own Dewar's stock and I will lift a glass of Lagavulin this evening to toast the anniversary.
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Your suggestion is a great one! If, every Dec 5th, we all went
down to our local watering holes and celebrated End of Prohibition
Day, it might truly hasten the end of our current Drug
Prohibition/War on American Civil Rights and Liberties.
Do you think that, out of the multitude of companies involved in
the sale of alcoholic beverages, there could be found a critical
mass to inaugurate this tradition? Or, are they all afraid of
exercising thier First Amendment rights to free speech and
association? If not, we can always make it a grassroots individual
effort.
I know what I'll be doing this evening after work!
Here's to a true end for Prohibition....Cheers!
Lagavulin? Ahhh, nice to find another fan of that fine beverage. Oh, and good idea on having some tonight to celebrate...not that I need much encouragement to drink Lagavulin.
Disclosure: I don't own Dewar's stock and I will lift a
glass of Lagavulin this evening to toast the
anniversary.
Ok, but you still haven't told us if you're getting
kick-backs from any drug cartels. ;-)
Lagavulin? Ahhh, nice to find another fan of that fine
beverage.
Make that three of us.
I will be hoisting a glass tonight, but I think I will be finishing
off a bottle of 16 year old Laphroig. Nectar!
Anyone care to speculate what the NYT angle on repeal of the WOD
would be? I'm predicting "Cut and Run in the War on Drugs: Women,
Children Hardest Hit."
Would drugs now illegal, such as cocaine, marijuana, LSD-25,
MDMA, etc really be cheaper if it were made legal? Because as far
as I know, a lot of those drugs are pretty damn cheap right
now.
I was actually having a conversation about this not too long ago,
and I was thinking that some drugs might even become more
expensive, as companies producing, distributing, and selling them
would almost certainly have liability issues to underwrite, at the
very least. I guess I would need to know more about how alcohol
companies and bars, for example, keep away from such issues.
I suppose I've got a lot of reading to do today. :)
I wonder how long it's going to take before the NYT gets hate mail from Joe Califano and the other anti-alcohol groups for printing that ad?
The end of prohibition: a reminder that there's one thing a libertarian can thank FDR for.
Dewar's and soda is my go-to drink.
Mine is; "Dewar's, Soda, Twist" and I hate it when they ask "lemon
or lime?" it ruins the whole meter. They usually throw in the rocks
but if they ask, I say "surprise me"
I will lift a glass of Lagavulin this evening to toast the
anniversary.
On single-malts, I'm a Glenlivet, 'fiddich & the like
m'self.... But I'm out of scotch altogether and just drank the last
of my bourbon so it'll be Stoli martini's tonight.
Sláinte!
War on Alcohol Ended 73 Years Ago Today
And the war on fat is just beginning. New York City's
Board of Health has voted to ban artery-clogging trans-fats from
the city's restaurants.
.. Warren ..
.. the way it was explained to me, a "twist" is lemon and a
"squeeze" is lime ..
.. Hobbit
One of the more interesting thing that would happen if drugs were legalized is the effects on the drugs themselves of turning the power of big pharm research loose on them. Right now, no one does any research into improving the quality and reducing the downside of recreational drugs. Recreational drugs are crude chemical conoctions made by amateurs in garages. Who is to say if given the time and effort, someone couldn't develop a non-addictive form of cocaine? Or, some kind of euphoric endusing drug that has no known side effects? What is even more interesting, or depressing, is the lengths to which people would go to to explain why such a drug, if developed, really were a bad thing that needed to be kept out of people's hands.
John - that's not true. There are very sophisticated labs
cranking out some of these banned substances as it is. MDMA was
being somewhat successfully used in psychological treatments before
it was outlawed. Only now are experiments with LSD-25, psilocybin,
and MDMA being allowed to continue. Imagine what we've lost in
these last 30+ years.
Check out MAPS.ORG - they're fighting the good fight.
"John - that's not true. There are very sophisticated labs
cranking out some of these banned substances as it is."
I am sure there are, but I would still bet that big pharm would do
things that the underground drug labs have never dreamed of doing.
Yes, we have lost a lot of legitimate research thanks to the drug
wars.
Where's the two page ad proclaiming: "End of Alcohol prohibition: Dec 5, 1933; End of drug prohibition: ???"
MEMO:
Henceforth the term "Prohibition" is to be shitcanned by all
libertarians and other sane peoples. In its place the phrase "The
War on Alcohol" is to be substituted.
Thank you for your cooperation.
"One of the more interesting thing that would happen if drugs
were legalized is the effects on the drugs themselves of turning
the power of big pharm research loose on them. Right now, no one
does any research into improving the quality and reducing the
downside of recreational drugs. Recreational drugs are crude
chemical conoctions made by amateurs in garages. Who is to say if
given the time and effort, someone couldn't develop a non-addictive
form of cocaine? Or, some kind of euphoric endusing drug that has
no known side effects?"
There's nothing specific stopping them from doing that now but the
gen'l legal climate. And that climate would not change even if laws
criminalizing specific substances were repealed, because it would
still be generally acknowledged that gov't had the power to
prohibit, or not prohibit, the sale of whatever products they
wanted to. There would probably be a good chance any new
recreational substance would be prohibited just when it was about
to hit the market, even if the old ones had just been
decriminalized.
It's like with the cigaret companies and substitute products.
They've been naturals to market subs for ciggies, and there's no
specific law against it, but the current legal climate is extremely
unfavorable to such development.
The last time the social-legal climate looked good for this sort of
thing was in the 1970s. Safer cigarets, "non-addictive" subs for
narcotics, those ideas were taken seriously.
So basically, we'd have to have repeal, and then a long time to
pass after repeal, for ideas like this to fly again. Either that or
state & federal constitutional amendments.
I was actually having a conversation about this not too long
ago, and I was thinking that some drugs might even become more
expensive, as companies producing, distributing, and selling them
would almost certainly have liability issues to underwrite, at the
very least.
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I don't think it would. I'm pretty sure that the market competition
from individuals capable of producing these substances would keep
it down, lest the damn corner thugs sell more crack than
Pfizer.
Ask the mother whose child was killed by a drunk driver if the repeal of Prohibition has been all roses.
On single-malts, I'm a Glenlivet, 'fiddich & the like
m'self
Yeah, Glenlivet is the best of the scotches I've tried. Too rich
for my poor student's budget, though, most of the time. So I drink
Speyburn instead. Tastes very similar to Glenlivet, but is about
half the price. I mean, a decent scotch for twenty dollars a fifth?
Whod'a thunk it?
Ask the mother whose child was killed by a drunk driver if the
repeal of Prohibition has been all roses.
C'mon, Dan, now you're not even trying.
Prohibition may have been repealed, but the war on alcohol continues. Rarely do I read about DWI arrests, now it is DUI, the difference being that the driver is not intoxicated, but has has one drink. Additionally, alcohol is prohibited in near every park and campground, drinking in public is prohibited in most places. Parents can be prosecuted for supplying wine with dinner to 19 year olds. No, the war on alcohol is alive and well.
I'm sure once the government is done taxing the shit out of it,
legal drugs will be just as expensive to the end-user as they are
now.
But for any of it to happen, not only does the WOD have to end, but
a cultural sea-change in attitudes toward taking pleasure would
have to take place too.
"a decent scotch for twenty dollars a fifth?"
I would spend a little bit more and get Craggenmore... Last time I
got it it was under 30 bucks, and it's not decent, it's good.
I am inclined to spend the money for Laphroaig (15 year), or Oban,
but a nice Lagavulin does the trick.
Connemara is a peated single malt Irish Whiskey that is worth
checking out.
http://www.connemarawhiskey.com/ Irish whiskey
Haven't yet liked a whisky with the word "glen" in the name.
Dan T. -
Well, during Prohibition all the drunk driving accidents happened
in a back alley with a coat hanger.
Ask the mother whose child was killed by a drunk driver if
the repeal of Prohibition has been all roses.
As a person who is capable of travelling between alternate
universes, I would like to inform you that on the alternate Earth
where Prohibition was never repealed, that child was killed anyway,
by a SWAT team looking for alcohol and raiding the wrong house.
They killed her dog too.
Not only that. Another child in that same neighborhood was killed
in a similar incident. And you know what, Dan? That child would
have grown up to be you!
So like you say, while the repeal of Prohibition was the best
outcome on balance, some bad things happened too: A little more
excessive drinking, and a few more trolls.
Do I hear, Dahlwinnie (spelling?) much less "analytical" than
Glenlivet, though not as "peaty" as others. Give it a try.
As for cheap scotch, try Trader Joes they have a pretty good
selection for reasonable prices. I think a fifth of Glenlivet is
about 20 to 25 bucks, and they have about three or four under
35.
I don't know if you can get it hear, but a Scotch liquor called
Glayva is excellent after dinner drink. Much better than Baileys in
my humble opinion.
regards
joe dokes
To give the devil his due: it's kinda touching that Congress actually thought it required a constitutional amendment to ban booze, rather than just a statute passed under authority of the Commerce Clause.
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