Tim Cavanaugh | April 6, 2006
Rep. Cynthia McKinney (D-GA) just made an apology on the House floor for her run-in with a Capitol Police officer last week, and said she'll be voting for some bill to praise the professionalism and dedication of the Capitol cops.
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Looks like the Bigwigs at the DNC finally talked some sense into
her.
Either that, or her poll numbers are dropping.
Hahahahahaha. Aren't you supposed to make a beeping sound when you back up that suddenly?
I would like her to vote for some bill praising the people who talked sense into her.
Based on my reading of this early news story about her
"apology," it wasn't an apology at all. It was a statement that
she's sorry it happened and that there shouldn't have been ANY
touching. Since the officer touched her first (and then she punched
him), she seems to be weaseling out of making any real apology for
HER specific actions.
http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/04/06/D8GQK0UO0.html
I would like my Congress not to waste their -- and my -- time and their salaries (i.e. my taxes) on "some bill to praise the professionalism and dedication of the Capitol cops." Isn't there anything IMPORTANT you assholes could be dealing with?
"Since the officer touched her first (and then she punched
him)"
I keep seeing people use formulations like this. "He put his hand
on her, and she slugged him..." or "He stopped her, and she punched
him."
I still haven't seen any evidence whatsoever regarding how hard
either of them touched the other, but I see a lot of people
spouting off confidently that she landed a Tyson-esque body
blow.
Phil,
As per your request, they will get right back to passing annoying
regulations and such.
Phil
The more time they spend on this, the less time they'll have to
steal our money.
Question: Can McKinney's apology be used as evidence against her either at the Grand Jury or at trial? I'm not a lawyer. Does the "Speech or Debate" clause protect her?
Why do some people feel that a cop can grab,touch or hit you anytime they feel it is necessary? Once the cop physically assaulted her, I feel that she was well within her rights to defend herself given the fact that she had done nothing wrong. I have yet to see any rational argument for giving police the power to use physical force anytime they want.
Scott: This particular cop was authorized to use physical force
to detain unauthorized entrants. McKinney did not authorize, or
stop, therefore the cop was justified.
He wasn't using force anytime he wanted, but as part of his duties
when telling her to stop didn't work. How else do you suggest he
carry out his job of keeping the capitol safe if he can't grab
people he doesn't recognize who barge in without identification and
refuse verbal commands to stop?
If only we could find a way to forceably stop the remaining Members of Congress from coming to work as well.
... and before I get arrested, the above is a joke. Seriously, though, as much as I find McKinney's behavior, as reported, objectionable, it amazes me that anyone thinks this is newsworthy.
So anytime a police officer demands ID or papers you are forced to comply under the threat of physical force? She is a member of Congress and is allowed to bypass security and enter the building. The fact that the officer did not recognize her does not change the fact that he assaulted a person that had done nothing wrong. Are you advocating preemptive assaults by police officers based only on the mere suspicion of a crime? Are you also OK with the criminalization of any attempt to defend yourself against the unlawful actions of the police?
Scott:
At the same time, if you're such an oversensitive twat that a
police officer touching you on the shoulder constitutes "assault",
then, well, I have very little sympathy.
Meanwhile, crooked Mayberry-cops-cum-paramilitary-SWAT-teamers
break into houses and shoot people all the time (and kill their
poor pups)...for little more than possessing minute amounts of a
particular herb. So excuse me if I don't get all worked into a
lather because a cop touched someone's motherfucking shoulder
without permission. If that's the worst thing this fucker did,
then, we should consider ourselves lucky.
Meanwhile, if some random CIVILIAN came up to you and put their
hand on your shoulder, would you instinctively put a roundhouse on
the dude? Or would you investigate further before resorting to
physical response?
Well put Evan. I'm all for ending police abuses but stopping someone who isnt' immediately recognized at a security checkpoint doesn't rank high on my list of abuses to correct. I'm sure that the elite who work in that building have a lot to do with the security procedures in place. If they think it's too stringent, relax it, if not, they might occasionally be mistaken for one us serfs.
Almost forgot, I saw the "apology" on the news this morning. "I regret that any touching occurred". Very Clintonian. I'm starting to wonder if Mckinney had sex with the cop?:)
Scott:
It was a freaking security checkpoint. Cops stop people at security
checkpoints. You do not hit cops when they stop you at security
checkpoints, even if they make a mistake in stopping you. Enforcing
a security checkpoint at a capitol, one that was assaulted 7 years
ago by a deranged gunman who managed to kill 2 of these Capitol
Police officers, is certainly a legitimate function of
government.
My understanding is that Congresscritters may bypass these security
checkpoints. My understanding is that they are supposed to wear
little medallions/pins whatever that act as their security badge to
bypass these checkpoints. My understanding is that Rep McKinney was
not wearing hers. This leads me to the conclusion that the cop was
justified in using reasonable force to stop her, and McKinney is
truly a wacka-doo for making an issue out of this when she was
clearly wrong.
If you want the congressional privilege of skipping the security
line, you should wear your frickin' ID. How hard is this? Why must
you make it more difficult for the cops to do their jobs?
If your fashion sense doesn't allow you to wear the congressional
pin, then the least you can do is announce your presence to the
cops as you go past the detector.
Unidentified people who blow through security should be
tasered.
I suggest a compromise. From now on, cops can touch any non-congressional citizen's shoulder any time he wants for any reason. In return, any politician of any kind who commits any infraction of any kind, however small or innocuous, is tasered to the floor and then torn to small bloody shreds by police dogs specially trained to go into a frenzy at the smell of politician blood.
"Meanwhile, if some random CIVILIAN came up to you and put their
hand on your shoulder, would you instinctively put a roundhouse on
the dude?"
Of course I would; what else would a real man do?
When cops can stop from passing through a security checkpoint without ID, the terrorists have won.
When cops can stop from passing through a security
checkpoint without ID, the terrorists have won.
Actually, when people are rendered so helpless against aggression
that there are security checkpoints everywhere, the terrorists have
won.
It's just an interesting question who the terrorists are.
Actually, when people are rendered so helpless against
aggression that there are security checkpoints everywhere, the
terrorists have won.
It's just an interesting question who the terrorists
are.
I agree completely. So, is the entrance to the Capitol building of
the US an inappropriate location for a security checkpoint? I think
we can agree that we haven't quite reached that point yet.
How come Jim Trafficant could act like an idiot and be colorful, while Cynthia is treated like a disgrace and a threat to the Republic. There couldn't be different rules for white men and black women, could there?
Of course I would; what else would a real man do?
Chuck Norris, 2:58 PM
Chuck Norris doesn't roundhouse people. People mash their faces
into Chuck Norris' fist.
Jim Trafficant
So is he still doing that in-depth research into the federal prison
system?
"How come Jim Trafficant could act like an idiot and be
colorful, while Cynthia is treated like a disgrace and a threat to
the Republic. There couldn't be different rules for white men and
black women, could there?"
Good point! They should have tasered that hoe, and then put her ass
in the slammer in the cell next to Trafficant.
Kids can't get into school without a picture I.D. on display. Is that too much to ask for people trying to bypass security at a government building??
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