Ronald Bailey | March 16, 2006
Commit suicide. That's according to the Washington Post which briefly reports in its Unconventional Wisdom feature an intriguing new study, "Artists' Suicides as a Public Good" by Samuel Cameron, Bijou Yang and David Lester in Archives of Suicide Research, Vol. 9 No. 4.
The Post summarizes the study's results: "A British and U.S. research team argues that artist and celebrity suicides may benefit society by increasing the emotional benefits fans derive from the dead star as well as boost 'sales of the artist's products and associated merchandise.'"
So that explains the popularity of artists like Vincent van Gogh and Kurt Cobain?
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A British and U.S. research team argues that artist and
celebrity suicides may benefit society
Say no more. Where do I donate to get this ball rolling?
Archives of Suicide Research???
Boy, there's a fun, light read for your next planeflight. I wonder
if they do a swimsuit issue?
So that explains the popularity of artists like Vincent van
Gogh and Kurt Cobain?
Dunno (or care) jack about Cobain, but have always been kinda
fascinated by van Gogh; read his "Letters to Theo" back in my
sensitive college days and thought he should've been a writer
rather than a painter since he really was a pretty poor artist
(understandably sold no, or only one, painting(s) despite the fact
his brother was an art dealer).
How do I benefit from his suicide? I happen to like crappy art
("thriftshop paintings") and doubt that his pix would've been
reprinted if he hadn't gone crazy, etc.
Would never dream of getting into a discussion of musical merit
on this thread, but:
Colbain, to a certain demographic, in the pre-Brittany era, was
God, long before he died.
/Knew teenage girls who loved him so much, they thought Courtney
Love was pretty.
//Didn't know afore-mentioned girls in the biblical sense.
///Swear.
////Underage...
I don't remember Blind Melon records selling much better after
Shannon Hoon offed himself.
I for one would rather have seen more Blind Melon records than
anything from Unified Theory.
If anyone is interested, I have a Rolling Stone magazine with an interview with Kurt Cobain. The title was "Success Doesn't Suck" and the interview was a couple of months before his demise. I am more than willing to profit from someone else's pain.
Yeah, to confirm that rumor-Van Gogh never sold even one painting while he was alive. His brother believed in him, and so supported him his entire miserable life. I feel really bad for him actually. He had so much talent, and never got to feel any satsifaction for the impact he's had on the art world.
Suicide (or other sort of premature death) can be a good career move, but like anything else, it has to be handled correctly.
So that explains the popularity of artists like Vincent van
Gogh and Kurt Cobain?
Yes! There is a special respect reserved for bands that had one or
more member commit suicide as well as artists. Bonus points if it
was an accidental suicide (like an overdose). E.g. Joy Division
(Ian Curtis), Nirvana, Jimi Hendrix, Jim Morrison, Nick Drake,
Elliott Smith. Yes.
I do think it's shitty that their study says that suicides "benefit
society". That's pretty crumby.
boost sales of ... associated merchandise
Yeah, it's $20-$33 to purchase that article online. The study
proves itself.
No statistics on this, but I think dying in a plane crash is a much better career move -- think Patsy Cline, Buddy Holly, Croce, etc. Cobain may get more respect in print, but Croce gets way more airplay.
anomdebus,
No, not "Yes", the band. I didn't realize that could be ambiguous
until you asked. I was simply repeating "yes" to emphasize my
agreement with the idea that suicide (for some morbid reason) makes
artists and musicians more popular with their followers.
[van Gogh's] brother believed in him, and so supported him
his entire miserable life. I feel really bad for him
actually.
I did too. I feel even worse for the thousands or millions of
similar people who don't have brothers supporting them.
He had so much talent, and never got to feel any satsifaction
for the impact he's had on the art world.
Personally I don't think his talent was painting, or any sort of
visual art (his sketches were gawd-awful fucking retarded - worse
than Hitler's). He shoulda been a writer.
Impact? What impact? Superman comics had far more impact, and show
far more talent, than van Gogh's works. "Arts and Entertainment" is
redundant.
The best thing about these suicides is that they often result in bands I like better. Like after Cobain offed himself, we got Foo Fighters--a vast improvement IMHO. Ian Curtis graciously hung himself and made way for New Order. Win-win!
Superman comics had far more impact, and show far more
talent, than van Gogh's works.
You're not confusing Vincent with Theo, the recently assassinated
filmmaker, are you?
I was living near Seattle when Cobain offed himself. A local radio station made the announcement, and my immediate thought was "My collection of Nirvana records is worth a fortune!"
"Bonus points if it was an accidental suicide (like an
overdose). E.g. Joy Division (Ian Curtis), Nirvana, Jimi Hendrix,
Jim Morrison, Nick Drake, Elliott Smith. Yes."
Ian hung himself, hardly accidental. The real question is how many
of them were 27 when the deed was done? Lots.
Ian hung himself, hardly accidental.
spur,
Sorry for being unclear. My example list of suicides wasn't meant
to be read as all accidental suicides - I was just listing a bunch
of people who committed suicide, intended or accidental.
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