Nick Gillespie | September 15, 2004
Poll numbers suggest he might, but he's tossing up wounded turkeys like Garo Yepremian in Super Bowl VII.
The Washington Post reports on John Kerry's recent pigskin gaffe up in the frozen tundra of Green Bay, Wisconsin. The Bay State Blowhard--who earlier this year committed the cardinal sin of apparently confusing Univ. of Michigan football with archrival Ohio State--called the Packers' storied stadium Lambert Field. The predictable result? A figurative blitz of GOP bullet passes to the contender's crotch, a la Burt Reynolds in The Longest Yard. To wit:
"I got some advice for him," Bush told Wisconsinites a few days after the Lambert gaffe. "If someone offers you a cheesehead, don't say you want some wine, just put it on your head and take a seat at Lambeau Field." Vice President Cheney made the obligatory pilgrimage to Green Bay last week to pile on. "I thought after John Kerry's visit here I'd visit Lambert Field," Cheney told a crowd at a Republican fundraising dinner Thursday night. Then he went in for the kill. "The next thing is he'll be convinced Vince Lombardi is a foreign leader."
The worst part of Kerry's gaffe? It's resurrected the hoary old tradition of discussing politics as sport, including this two-minute-warning rebuttal from a Kerry blocker (which does include a most excellent after-the-whistle cheap shot regarding Dubya's rah-rah days):
And David Wade, a Kerry spokesman, said Packers fans will see the failed "playbook" of the Republicans. "Any Packers fan knows . . . Bush has fumbled on Iraq, did a double reverse on the assault weapons ban and dropped the ball on health care." Then Wade went personal. "I don't think we need any lectures in sports from a former cheerleader," referring to one of Bush's activities while at prep school.
The Bush rejoinder almost writes itself: "While our opponent is windsurfing and pulling political flea-flickers, we're pulling a real-life Statue of Liberty play in a place called Iraq."
And the Kerry countersweep: "W stands for Wrong Way Reigels."
Hmm, maybe the football talk would make the debates worth watching...
Whole thing here. Lombardi--"a Kennedy Democrat," as the Post notes (but more important, the man of honor on a New Jersey Turnpike toilet--would love this. After all, he's the guy who famously said, "Show me a good loser and I'll show you a loser."
More Lombardi quotes here.
Info on Don
DeLillo's excellent
70's novel, End Zone, which has fun with the
nuclear-war-as-football-game metaphor and has aptly been described
as "Dr. Strangelove Meets North Dallas Forty,"
here.
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Guess who said the following?
"Too many good docs are getting out of the business. Too many
OB/GYN's aren't able to practice their love with women all across
the country."�Sept. 6, 2004, Poplar Bluff, Mo.
"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They
never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our
people, and neither do we."�Washington, D.C., Aug. 5, 2004
"I want to thank my friend, Sen. Bill Frist, for joining us today.
� He married a Texas girl, I want you to know. (Laughter.) Karyn is
with us. A West Texas girl, just like me."�Nashville, Tenn., May
27, 2004
"I'm honored to shake the hand of a brave Iraqi citizen who had his
hand cut off by Saddam Hussein."�Washington, D.C., May 25,
2004
More here http://slate.msn.com/?id=76886
Read the DeLillo book!
Read the DeLillo book!
Read ALL of DeLillo's books! Especially "End Zone," "Mao II"
(meditions on terrorism, crowds, the World Trade Center), "The
Names," and "White Noise."
Then he went in for the kill. "The next thing is he'll be
convinced Vince Lombardi is a foreign leader."
Do they really want to bring up the old "foreign leader" issue?
Didn't Bush have some problems with naming foreign leaders in the
last election?
Joe,
You forgot something very important: Underworld.
Or at least the opening "The Giants Win The Pennant!" chapter.
That's been excerpted as a novella, and it's mah-velous. How else
to describe an account of Sinatra, Jackie Gleason, Toots SHor, and
J. Edgar Hoover in a luxury box during a baseball game?
Some of the rest of the book really sucks, but that opening chapter
is a jewel.
I left "Underworld" off for a reason, but you're right, that
first chapter was first rate.
The rest read like a triple album by a 70s prog-rock band - the
kind that would have been ok if chopped down to 2 album sides.
Gadfly and Gary Gunnels,
That "brave Iraqi citizen who had his hand cut off by Saddam
Hussein" had had a prosthetic hand put on by American doctors. This
was what Bush was shaking. Bush is actually going out of his way to
draw attention to the fact that the guy now has a hand to
shake.
I know the quote sounds stupid taken out of context but context
matters.
Ugh. So not only is the president required to be happily married and openly religious, but he also has to be a football fan? Call me a Northeastern liberal elite, but I just think that's stupid. Call me when the two candidates are done strutting and posturing with their big swinging dicks. An anecdote: My brother and I cut school to see Ronald Reagan when he visited my hometown of Rochester, New York around 1984, where he proceeded to mispronounce the name of our beloved hockey team. Didn't seem to harm his popularity, though.
Hey Gadfly, seeing we're playing geussing games, guess what campaign is on life support, and guess who's headed for 4 more years.
Ugh. So not only is the president required to be happily married and openly religious, but he also has to be a football fan? Call me a Northeastern liberal elite, but I just think that's stupid. Call me when the two candidates are done strutting and posturing with their big swinging dicks. An anecdote: My brother and I cut school to see Ronald Reagan when he visited my hometown of Rochester, New York around 1984, where he proceeded to mispronounce the name of our beloved hockey team. Didn't seem to harm his popularity, though.
Ugh. So not only is the president required to be happily
married and openly religious, but he also has to be a football
fan?
Not at all. But he shouldn't go around pretending to be a football
fan.
Just like he shouldn't go around pretending to be a deer hunter, or
a gun rights supporter, or anything else. The knock on Kerry, which
he keeps driving home himself, is that he is a shallow
opportunist.
RWGR, Zogby and Rassmussen both have Bush's lead down to .5-2
points. An incumbent, against a challenger, after labor day, has a
lead significantly smaller than the margin of error.
Quick question - which way to undecided voters break, towards the
incumbent or towards the challenger?
RWGR, Zogby and Rassmussen both have Bush's lead down to .5-2
points. An incumbent, against a challenger, after labor day, has a
lead significantly smaller than the margin of error.
Quick question - which way to undecided voters break, towards the
incumbent or towards the challenger?
I agree, Mr. Sweeney, context matters. However, according to Karl Rove, when you're explaining, you're losing. Better to just throw shit on the wall and let someone else clean it up.
Joe
You need to pull your head out of your seat cushion and see that
Bush is still up by 5-6 points in the AVERAGE of most polls. Not
only that, but taking weirdly done, biased polls like Zogby and
lifting them up as the end-all, be-all will damage your credibility
faster than a roomful of CBS typewriters.
I trust Zogby, Rassmussen, and ARG more than the big guys like
Gallup, Time, NYT, or Mason Dixon.
But I guess we won't really know for a month and a half.
Roger Sweeny,
Thanks for the correction. :)
I'll guess I'll have to go with the OB/GYN comment as funniest
then. :)
"... taking weirdly done, biased polls like Zogby and lifting
them up as the end-all, be-all will damage your
credibility..."
He doesn't have any credibility, we all know he's just a yellow
dog.
"Yellow dog" would imply that my enthusiasm is for the
Democratic Party in general, which is not the case. I'm an
enthusiastic John Kerry supporter, even more than a Democrat or an
ABB.
I wouldn't be so motivated for a Dean or Gore campaign, even though
I'd support them.
"I trust Zogby, Rassmussen, and ARG more than the big
guys"
Let's see if anyone can figure out the real reason why...
Joe, did this revelation happen before or after those polls had
Kerry closer than the "big guys?"
Also, you neglect to mention what a stellar job the Christian
Science Monitor has been doing with their polling lately...
Here's a tip: you'll know the race is close again if you start
seeing a lot of ads highlighting Kerry's infamous senate
testimony.
I haven't seen any CSM polls. What do they say?
I've trusted Zogby more than Gallup and the other big guys since
1996, when he got Clinton's margin over Dole correct to the single
point, and beat the established pollmeisters. Also, I believe Zog
was the first to pick up on Kerry's comeback in Iowa.
As for Rassmussen, I just like the robots. Gimmicky, maybe, but
we'll soon know.
BTW, the ads about Kerry's testimony are already running.
If I'm not mistaken, Lambeau is a French name.
And Kerry got it wrong.
Don't you people see the significance of this? He's a real
American after all! :->
You yokels must realize your "discussion" has the same tone as
an NFL pregame show?
"My team will win!"
"Oh, yeah, well your QB is a drunk"
"But our defense is on fire"
"Defense doesn't score points"
"But defense wins championships"
"Did you hear Coach Zogby's analysis over on CBS?"
"He's an idiot!"
"It's all about who's ahead when the clock runs out"
A pack of ossified zealots barking through a fence. Nice.
Next time craft your wrote blatherings in the form of a Springer
episode.
Speaking as a Wisconsin native, I couldn't care less if Kerry
knows the name of our football stadium.
Now, if he can't tell the difference between frozen custard and
regular ice cream, well, then I'll have no choice but to vote for
Bush! :)
Seriously, I've never understood why candidates are evaluated based
on, say, their ability to flip pancakes at a NH breakfast, their
knowledge of local sports teams, the fact that they look like a
Frenchman and/or a chimp, saying "subliminable", or how they answer
questions on MTV.
BTW, a recent mayoral election in Milwaukee was decided in part
on the fact that one of the candidates failed to pay his electric
bill.
Given that we Milwaukeeans are some of the cheapest people on
earth, that actually makes sense.
Gadfly,
The day I let Karl Rove give me lessons on how to live my life is
the day I stop caring about my integrity. I hope neither you nor I
ever reach that point.
Well, perhaps Kerry had the good sense to mispronounce a French name, but mis-calling the "double reverse?" Unforgiveable.
"You yokels must realize your "discussion" has the same tone as
an NFL pregame show?"
What's your point?
Hey thoreau,
I resemble that remark.
If Kerry visits Milwaukee and doesn't visit Kopp's or Leon's he's
not fit to lead this country.
I think Kerry committed a similar "flub" a few weeks ago in
Philadelphia. He ordered a cheesesteak with (gasp) provolone.
Apparently some locals got their panties in a bunch over
that.
Collectivist newsflash: just because some local custom or tradition
is near and dear to you, it doesn't mean "outsiders" give a flying
fuck. Granted, Kerry doesn't look good with his verbal stumble, but
it's a fucking football field.. get over it.
BTW - I'm not voting for the douchebag. Of whom I'm referring to,
take your pick.
He ordered a cheesesteak with (gasp) provolone.
It was Swiss.
Yes, I do pay attention to the things that matter.
Kurt:
Thanks for the correction. I remember now.. a "true" philly
cheesteak has american or provolone cheese. Apparently swiss cheese
is considered "sissy"..
Any candidate who tells a group of locals, "No way I'm eating
that shit" gets my vote, no questions asked.
Unless it's steamers. Cuz they're goooooooood.
Kerry's faux pas over mispronouncing the temple on
Lombardi Avenue's name was embarrassing, and local Reps and radio
yakkers are having a field day with it. Steve Hayes, born and
raised in Wauwatosa, WI, wrote about this at the beginning of the
month:
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/004/560azqaa.asp
Seriously, a tired candidate, who has also visited swing state
Missouri often, simply spit out the name of St. Louis' airport when
he meant Green Bay's stadium. But most of us behind the Cheddar
Curtain wouldn't know that bit of Show Me trivia. Still pretty
funny, though.
Kevin
(reporting from M`waukee)
The cheesesteak thing actually happened last year. Kerry was not only derided in the local press for ordering with swiss, but for taking "dainty" bites from his cheesesteak as well. I believe a Kerry spokesman actually said something to the effect that he meant to order one with American, but that he was distracted thinking about all the jobs that had been lost during the Bush administration.
Instead of voting based on who knows the most about football,
who eats his cheesesteak like a "real man", and who did the most in
the military 30 years ago, why not just get out the rulers and
measure their dicks and be done with it?
I'll get the atomic force microscope ready, just in case ;)
Oh, and before we measure, Captain Flightsuit will have to
remove the toilet paper roll from the front of his pants, and John
Flip Flop Kerry will have to unveil the real deal instead of one of
the firearms that he brandishes on the campaign trail every chance
he gets.
As I said, the atomic force microscope is ready. Gentlemen, let's
measure!
Fumbling and dropping the ball are bad things, that makes sense, but why is running a double reverse bad? If it fails, yes, and it's annoying when announcers call a single reverse a double, but an effective double reverse is a thing of beauty.
GWB may have been a weenie cheerleader in school, but JFK II
outweenied him. He played soccer! No amount of intramural
ice hockey can wipe out such shame.
Kevin
"GWB may have been a weenie cheerleader in school, but JFK II
outweenied him. He played soccer!"
In which way is soccer more of a "weenie sport" than baseball?
I'm not so concerned about Lombardi being confused with a
foreign leader by a candidate as I'm concerned about Lombardi being
confused as a Packer by the electorate...
...Just to set the record straight, he died a Redskin party
people...He was a Reeedskiiiinn.
That's right, the Super Bowl trophy is named after a coach of the
Redskins, not a coach of the Packers. He was a great coach, no
doubt--when Sonny Jurgensen was inducted into the Hall of Fame, he
even thanked Lombardi for getting him there.
I'm not trying to take anything away from Lombardi; Lombardi was
probably the second best coach the NFL has ever seen...second to
Joe Gibbs, of course.
Soccer is more weenie in the "Amurikun" way. And ain't it nice y'all got time for sport when black children are being murdered every day. That's why they sing "God Bless Amerikkka" at a lot of those games.
by your logic, Schulz, Keith Richards wasn't in the Rolling Stones, I suppose? He's really a New Barbarian, eh?
In which way is soccer more of a "weenie sport" than
baseball?
Off hand I can think of:
Sliding into second and taking out the shortstop as he attempts to
make his throw to first.
The catcher blocking the plate to prevent the runner from scoring
from third.
Taking first base after being plunked with a 90mph fastball. Just
getting into the batter's box when Randy Johnson is pitching!
Ty Cobb filing down his spikes. (Admittedly, he was the worst cuss
with the most talent ever to play.)
Outfielders crashing into walls to catch balls on their way out of
the park.
With soccer, you get a "tackled" player collapsing in a heap,
holding his left knee, while the replay clearly shows the man
marking him made contact with his right side, if at all, followed
by the miraculous recovery.
I will admit that I played goal in a 9th grade P.E. class soccer
game once, when a forward whiffed while trying to score on me,
hitting me "roight in the goolies." That was NOT a weenie
experience.
Kevin
"With soccer, you get a "tackled" player collapsing in a heap,
holding his left knee, while the replay clearly shows the man
marking him made contact with his right side, if at all, followed
by the miraculous recovery."
They often get carded for faking like that. On the flip side, you
have players standing in row formation in an attempt to block a
free kick that could easily result in a direct hit to one of the
players' family jewels.
For the record, I don't think baseball's a sport for weenies. But
neither's soccer, though I think you might have to be catatonic to
enjoy watching it frequently. And one thing that soccer
does have in its favor is that you actually have to be in decent
shape to play professionally. Can anyone imagine a lard-ass like
John Kruk or Cecil Fielder playing for a major soccer team,
regardless of his talent?
"I wouldn't be so motivated for a Dean or Gore campaign, even
though I'd support them."
The dog barks.
the dog barks,
Judicial Watch is also awaiting the U.S. Navy's response to its
inquiry regarding Kerry's "Silver Star with combat V." The citation
appears in Kerry's DD214 military form on his website, but
according to military officials, no such medal exists.
"Kerry's record is incorrect. The Navy has never issued a 'combat
V' to anyone for a Silver Star," said a Naval official to reporter
Thomas Lipscomb in an article for the August 27th Chicago Sun
Times.
According to the Sun Times article, "Naval regulations do not allow
for the use of a 'combat V' for the Silver Star, the third-highest
decoration the Navy awards. None of the other services has ever
granted a Silver Star 'combat V,' either."
Can anyone imagine a lard-ass like John Kruk or Cecil
Fielder playing for a major soccer team, regardless of his
talent?
No, but I wouldn't expect Vasili Alexeyev to be a competent
striker, either.
Kevin
"I ain't an athlete, lady, I'm a baseball player." - John
Kruk
http://www.bigfool.com/kruk/
BTW, Kerry, in Madison WI this week, tried to charm the crowd by
namechecking "Main Street Brats." Only trouble is, it's "State
Street Brats." He must drive his advance men crazy.
Kevin
(Will take 2, no kraut.
And do you have any Secret Stadium Sauce?"
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