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Elizabeth Warren Formally Declares Candidacy, Enters the 2020 Race

"The man in the White House is not the cause of what is broken," said Warren. "He's just the latest and most extreme symptom of what has gone wrong in America."

WarrenTom Williams/CQ Roll Call/NewscomSen. Elizabeth Warren (D–Mass.) is officially a contender for the 2020 Democratic presidential nomination. She made her intentions clear during a speech in Lawrence, Massachusetts, Saturday morning. Her campaign kicked off with an endorsement from Rep. Joseph Kennedy (D–Mass.), who introduced her.

"We are here to say enough is enough," said Warren in her remarks. "The man in the White House is not the cause of what is broken. He is just the latest and most extreme symptom of what has gone wrong in America—a product of a rigged system that props up the rich and powerful and kicks dirt on everyone else."

The senator accused rich people of waging class warfare against the working class for years, and vowed to fight back.

"Our fight is for big structural change," Warren continued. "This is the fight of our lives."

She also vowed to break up monopolies, promised to invest in education and child care, and praised the Green New Deal.

Warren, a progressive populist, is arguably the furthest-left-leaning candidate in the race—at least until Sen. Bernie Sanders (I–VT) makes his candidacy official. Sanders and Warren differ in some respects: Most notably, Sanders would like to replace the capitalist system, whereas Warren only aspires to reform it. But like Sanders, Warren is primarily fixated on wealth inequality as the most pressing problem facing Americans—and her strategy for addressing it is to take money away from wealthy people.

How much money? Warren's proposal would tax the assets of the very wealthy at 2 percent annually, meaning they would pay it again and again every year. But if such a policy became law, most rich people would probably find ways to avoid it. The plan is best described as "a symbolic declaration of opposition to the existence of outsized wealth, irrespective of how it was obtained," wrote Reason's Peter Suderman in his negative appraisal.

Warren is also a staunch opponent of school choice reform: She opposed a statewide ballot initiative that would have allowed more charter schools to open in Massachusetts. (The initiative was defeated in 2018.) Warren's fealty to the teachers unions, a powerful group within the Democratic Party, positions her to run well to the left of rival Sen. Cory Booker (D­–NJ), who has a history of supporting education reform.

Read more from Reason on Warren here.

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  • lap83||

    "product of a rigged system that props up the rich and powerful and kicks dirt on everyone else."

    As opposed to the humble everywoman Hillary Clinton

  • JesseAz||

    Warren fully participated in said rigged system along with her husband. Look at how she got her wealth and power. I'm still amazed how idiots fall for these platitudes every election cycle.

  • Tony||

    Trump represents the true American dream. Inherit millions from Dad and be so fucking stupid you can't stay out of bankruptcy, even if you buy a casino.

  • dave b.||

    It takes a stable genius to go bankrupt selling steaks, football, and gambling to the American public

  • Sevo||

    Yep, shitbag, green makes you look as ugly as you are.

  • Tony||

    I'm not jealous of people who can't get loans.

  • Sevo||

    "I'm not jealous of people who can't get loans."

    So you're jealous and a liar.

  • JesseAz||

    A on sequitur from an idiot. Hi Tony. Still working to enslave others so you can stop being forced to provide for yourself?

  • Tony||

    I don't know what you're worried about. None of you people have enough money to be affected by any of this.

    Happen to notice a difference in your tax refund this year, by the way? You know the only reason for that is so that Trump could afford his tax cut for people far, far richer than you'll ever be? You know, capitalism!

  • NotAnotherSkippy||

    Why yes. My tax cut will be more than you pay in. And because I am not a moron like you I never give the government an interest free loan, aka a "refund."

  • Rebel Scum||

    I can be against something even if it does not affect me. Theft and redistribution is a rights violation and will do more harm than good in the long run. But you already know that.

  • soldiermedic76||

    Yes, my tax return was much greater than last year and I am hardly wealthy, family of five together my wife and I make about $70,000 taxable income.

  • JesseAz||

    Hey dumb fuck tony... personal exemption dou ked for everyone. 90% of people benefitted from the tax cut, per liberal think tanks. Can you please stop proving how ignorant you are?

  • Brian||

    "None of you people have enough money to be affected by any of this."

    Not so fast, Mr. Poverty from Oklahoma.

  • Paradigm||

    > None of you people have enough money to be affected by any of this.

    The company I work for in the semiconductor industry has good fundamentals, and a fairly high beta. For the financial neophytes like Tony and Kirkland, that means our stock is fairly volatile. So, I'm throwing $150,000 at it every time it dips. When it subsequently, rises I sell. Then I let it drop back down by a few bucks and repeat the cycle. I make $10 to 15k every time this happens, which is at least 10 times a year.

    Before you tell me I'm going to lose my shirt, you should know that this is less than 10% of my savings. The rest is in lower risk instruments like 401kd, IRAs, asset allocation mutual funds, and a small amount in precious metals. And, I have 10-15 years left before retirement.

    Trust me, Tony, I have enough. Too bad you never will, 'cause the government ain't gonna give you as much as I have. They won't even give you enough to be happy, even when democrats control the legislature and the presidency.

  • Sevo||

    "Trust me, Tony, I have enough. Too bad you never will, 'cause the government ain't gonna give you as much as I have."

    It's an odds-on bet that Tony has net wealth of his (mortgaged) condo in that OK 'gated community', and some from the folks.
    And it's equally clear that he really doesn't have a clue that quite a few of us here keep an eye on the US estate tax deductions, regardless of the states in which we reside.

  • ChuckNorrisBeardFist||

    Ah Tony showing how dumb he is again.

    You do realize what a tax refund is right? It's the amount you over paid to the government. In a perfect world (Not yours where the government gets 100% of your money), it should be 0.

    Maybe you should check, I don't know how much taxes you paid to the government to begin with.
    That you can when if the tax cut is fair. You know because people kept more of their money originally.

  • Tionico||

    WHO makes money outside of investing it, putting what they have to work? THAT, Mr. Jean Yus, is capitlaism. Putting assets to work to increase. If Trump was "stupid enough" to bankrupt and STILL go on to accumulate even a tenth of what he has, he's several orders of magnitude smarter than you are. If you had the hundredth part of his wealth, you'd be too busy to bother stirring the pot at some online blog. You'd be out ifguring what ELSE to do with your assets to make more... either for your own greedy self, or for the good of others.

    I know personally some capitalists who run their own businesses..... pay their good employees FAR above what others in their undustries earn, and take their bad ones and train them to be good ones so they can ride the gravy train too. These guys DELIGHT in paying their employees huge salaries.. and only in part because they'd rether give it to their hired help than give it to Uncle Stupid.

    Study up yourself some real basic economics. Start with Thomas Sowell's book Basic Economics. THEN maybe your head will have something else inside it than the useless blather it has now.

  • AER1972||

    Actually the focus is to put more money in my pocket each pay period by reducing my taxes than giving the government an interest free loan disguised as a "refund" only an idiot progressive thinks tax refunds are an income stream.

  • Rockabilly||

    Trump is so stupid, he beat Hillary Clinton and the powerful media machine behind her.

    He fucked them up so fucking good.

    - fuck the media losers and the cowardly antifa commie losers.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRx8A4Ne17w

  • Rev. Arthur L. Kirkland||

    You can whine and rant all you want . . . so long as you toe the line established by your betters.

    Thank you for your obsequious compliance, you disaffected right-wing rube.

  • Sevo||

    Rev. Arthur L. Kirkland|2.9.19 @ 2:10PM|#
    "Thank you for your obsequious compliance, you disaffected right-wing rube.

    Thank you for your banal bullshit, asshole.

  • NotAnotherSkippy||

    You mean cow farts?

  • soldiermedic76||

    The only person toeing the line is Kirkland.

  • Paradigm||

    Kirkland sits in a Starbucks (because the power in his efficiency apartment has been shut off) and pounds his chest (through an Obamaphone) about how we will comply with the orders of our "betters." It's clearly the result of mental scars from is days of utilizing the reduced lunch plan at school, a circumstance born of his mother's drug relapses and descent into highway prostitution, and his father's nightly moans of agony from a rectal prolapse.

    Try not to be too hard on him.

  • Red Rocks White Privilege||

    It's clearly the result of mental scars from is days of utilizing the reduced lunch plan at school, a circumstance born of his mother's drug relapses and descent into highway prostitution, and his father's nightly moans of agony from a rectal prolapse.

    A common tale for hicklibs nationwide.

  • ChuckNorrisBeardFist||

    Rev, between you, me, and the board. How much do you paid in meds per month? I mean the voices and delusions have to really add up

  • Last of the Shitlords||

    Tony, you're so ducking stupid. Only a drone like you would characterize Trump's success that way.

    Seriously, commit suicide you goddamn piece of shit.

  • StackOfCoins||

    The rank hypocrisy of these rich old fucks is what galls me the most. They pretend to be selfless and claim to care for the poor, while they sit on 7 or 8 figure bank accounts and jet-set around the country, staying in whatever vacation home is most comfortable at the time. There is NOTHING WRONG with being a selfish person. But doing so while pretending to be otherwise just makes you a cunt.

  • Anchor||

    Probably what I hate about leftism the most. Rich people Who hate the rich, white people who hate white people.

  • Gaear Grimsrud||

    She was introduced by Joseph Kennedy for Christ's sake.

  • soldiermedic76||

    Because they think the Kennedy name still means anything to most Americans. What they don't want you to do is actually study JFKs presidency. Not nearly as successful as it is portrayed, and he had about a 50-50 chancd of being reelected (some historians I've read place it lower than that) who would be considered a centrist Republican today. If he hadn't been assassinated it is quite possible he would just have been another no-name President decades after his Presidency.

  • JesseAz||

    He was also a bigger womanizer than trump.

  • soldiermedic76||

    There was this also.

  • Robert||

    Nearly got us killed.

  • Red Rocks White Privilege||

    The only demographics that the Kennedy name means anything to anymore are Boomers, who are really this woman's only constituency. The irony is that she's a populist in the same vein as Trump, but because of her "I want to speak to the manager" visage, she'll be an instant turnoff to anyone who doesn't live with 10 cats.

  • Sevo||

    "The only demographics that the Kennedy name means anything to anymore are Boomers, who are really this woman's only constituency."

    To this boomer, the Kennedy name means a boot-legger who bought an ambassadorship and his son's election to POTUS via an amazingly large turn-out in Chicago, and then a drowned woman with a scummy coverup which should have embarrassed even that collection of shitbags.

  • Man from Earth||

    If it weren't for his assassination, Kennedy's presidency would have been remembered as little more than mediocre.

  • Ray McKigney||

    her "I want to speak to the manager" visage

    LOL. That's good.

  • Tionico||

    No I don't think it really was "for Christ's sake". I think it was more for the faux indian feather she'll put into his backward facing baseball cap with the name of some losing team on it.

    Christ needs nothing he OR she has.. so how can it be for His sake?

  • Eddy||

    Real education reform is a good inequality-reduction measure. If she's a teacher union shill she's in favor of perpetuating inequality.

  • Eddy||

    ...and the education reformers don't want to cut off money "for education," they just want to spend it better so that it actually goes toward education.

  • Eddy||

    The only problem with reform policies is that the spending of the money is more geared to what actual parents want for their children, not toward the superior knowledge of education professionals who know so much. /sarc

  • Tionico||

    don't want to cut off money "for education," they just want to spend it better so that it actually goes toward education.

    no, they don't want to REALLY spend it for education. That is a shill.

    They REALLY want to enrich the unions, hire even MORE staff to further burden the system, and spend every ten million dollar bill they possibly can for "modern" new structures that are FAR more costly than any stretch of the imagination can possibly even think about justifying.

    If this nutcase REALLY wanted to improve education, start with school vouchers, so every parent can now vote with the available tax dollars as to WHICH is the better educational choice for their children. Trust me, today's public schools will NOT win when that happens, which is precisely why she wants to end all existing such programmes, even end home schooling and most private schools.... that is the commie way, "give me all the children and innfour years I will be in total control.

  • Ray McKigney||

    Funny you should mention that ...

    'We never thought we'd get in': The tense wait for a Philly charter school seat

    The odds were daunting: For about 45 kindergarten seats — not including those reserved for siblings of current students — the school had received more than 1,800 applications. More than 2,100 applicants were vying for 14 such openings in ninth grade.

  • Eddy||

    From the article: "The school district ultimately approves charter schools' growth."

  • Ray McKigney||

    Yeah, that's a laugh.

  • Man from Earth||

    Education should be left to the states. This way local politicians are responsible for how good or bad the education system is within their states. The electorate will then be able to lay the blame where it belongs without state politicians blaming the president or congress and thereby using education in their political games.

  • Tony||

    I am not committed to anyone yet, but if it turns out Warren was behind the kneecapping of Klobuchar, she will have my true respect as a politician.

  • OpenBordersLiberal-tarian||

    I especially like how Warren DESTROYED those right-wing science-deniers who smeared her with false charges like "she pretended to be Native American." I'm still amazed how well that DNA test went for her. She literally scientifically proved the standard conservative attack on her was completely without merit.

  • dave b.||

    Whites love to claim phony Native ancestry. It's practically the national pastime

  • soldiermedic76||

    On the Rez we used to joke about this. And you know what tribe was most often claimed by whites (I'm white BTW and never claimed any tribal affiliation)? Cherokee.

  • dave b.||

    They claim Cherokee the most but virtually 100% of them claim one of the 5 Civilized Tribes. Very telling

  • Gaear Grimsrud||

    My mother told me for my entire life that my great great grandmother was a full blooded Cherokee. I recently got a DNA test and it turns out I've got not a drop. It never occurred to me to glom on to that sweet affirmative action because, even if true, I couldn't honestly make a claim that I've ever suffered from my (non existing) native American heritage. Warren is not only ridiculous she is an appalling human being.

  • TrickyVic (old school)||

    I've been told my great grandmother is Choctaw. It could be true, a lot of things line up, but I don't run around telling people I'm part native because I really don't know if it's true. As far as I know, it's just a story. Warren would have been smart to take the same approach about her family story.

  • Joe_C||

    I took a DNA test, and my native ancestry is about 3-4x hers with more recent native ancestors, but I'm not out there asking Trump to pay me or trying to get on a reservation or claim minority status. She's absolutely ridiculous. I don't even understand why someone would have a made a whole video like she did—and then try to make a run for President which such an unbelievably low amount of DNA proof. There are cases where you might not get any DNA from closer ancestors, but she has no evidence of anything other than "cheekbones."

    As an olive-skinned hispanic, I'm about 11x as black as she is native. Anyone want to help me produce a video about how I can say the N-word now? Shoot. Habit. Maybe I can be the second black president!?

  • Diane Reynolds (Paul.)||

    Ok, you get a solid A for this one.

  • Ecoli||

    What's wrong with Klobuchar?

  • Crusty Juggler||

    She has good aim.

  • JesseAz||

    She's a raging psycho that uses formal.aodes for personal errands against ethics rules.

  • Sevo||

    "I am not committed to anyone yet, but if it turns out Warren was behind the kneecapping of Klobuchar, she will have my true respect as a politician."

    Everyone here knows you'll pick the scummiest candidate available

  • Tony||

    I hate to be ordinary, but it's anyone but Trump, just like a minimum of 70% of Americans.

  • Sevo||

    "I hate to be ordinary, but it's anyone but Trump, just like a minimum of 70% of Americans."

    It's obvious you're in love with being an ignoramus.

  • soldiermedic76||

    The anyone but Trump statement is just stupid. There are quite a few people, no matter how bad you think Trump is, that are far worse than Trump could ever be. So, realistic, if it were Mao, Pol Pot or Stalin would you vote for them instead of Trump? Remember you said anyone.
    Also, it is two years from the election, if the Democrats end up picking another candidate that is so odorous that they turn off the majority of Americans, guess what that 70% number will mean shit. The fact is someone like Warren is going to struggle in Middle America the same or worse than Hillary. She may even end up losing Minnesota. Possibly even Virginia and Nevada. Though those last two are real reaches.

  • soldiermedic76||

    Her brand of progressive is not popular with most Democrats outside of the coastal areas. And a few brainwashed worshippers like you, Tony. I actually bro believe you would vote for Pol Pot over Trump if there was a Small after his name.

  • Tony||

    What a ringing endorsement. He's better than Stalin!

    You'll get no argument from me that Americans are dumbfucks. I'm betting not enough to reelect Trump though.

  • soldiermedic76||

    I wasn't endorsing I was pointing out the pure stupidity of your statement. And as for reelecting Trump, as I just demonstrates it depends on the candidate. As for Americans being dumbfuck, considering your inability to understand a rather simplistic concept as my previous statement without me explaining it to you, you may not want to insult other people's intelligence.

  • Paradigm||

    > I hate to be ordinary, but it's anyone but Trump, just like a minimum of 70% of Americans.

    That is exactly what liberals said about Reagan in 1984. Those of us who were around then are not worried when a leftist throws that crap around. It seems like it's always the ones who were not born or old enough to witness that election. It was poetic justice for the puffed up left.

  • Last of the Shitlords||

    Tony, most people like Trump. Only traitor faggots like you hate him.

    Please promise that if he wins in 2020 that you will finally kill yourself.

  • John C. Randolph||

    most people like Trump.

    Nah. Most of the people who voted for him only did so because the alternative was Hillary.

    -jcr

  • JesseAz||

    Harry Reid even spoke about klobouchars bitchiness. It's amazing how ignorant you lefties are.

  • Tony||

    Guess what every Republican member of Congress except maybe Louie Gohmert says about Trump behind his back.

  • soldiermedic76||

    Tony do you ever get tired of being a predictable progressive sycophant? Can you offer anything more than whataboutisms, tired talking points and cliches?

  • Sevo||

    Weell, he flat-out lies quite often also,

  • Tony||

    Which is exactly what someone who mainlines FOX News would say.

  • Paradigm||

    > Which is exactly what someone who mainlines FOX News would say.

    The reflexive jabs at FOX News from the left are so predictable. The left assumes everyone is glued to the TV like they are - sitting there hoping against hope that Rachel Maddow's conspiracy theories will be right just once and Mueller will pull evidence out of his duodenum after two years of getting their hopes up.

  • Sevo||

    "...hoping against hope that Rachel Maddow's conspiracy theories will be right just once and Mueller will pull evidence out of his duodenum after two years of getting their hopes up."
    Lefty trope 1: Trump is so stupid, he couldn't have beat the hag unless 'the russkis'!
    Lefty trope 2: Trump is so smart, he's hidden the evidence where we can't find it!
    If you assumed lefties had IQs above the polar vortex numbers, you'd think they'd understand the contradiction.
    I give you the lefty assholes Tony and that miserable fucking rev as evidence that they are not capable of seeing that.

  • ChuckNorrisBeardFist||

    Notice anything about the color of Lizzy's audience? Why do you hate people of color Tony and vote for the whitest candidate around.

  • BigT||

    Redskins for Liawatha!!!

  • OpenBordersLiberal-tarian||

    a rigged system that props up the rich and powerful and kicks dirt on everyone else

    OK, I've had Warren in my top 3 2020 Presidential choices for a while now, and I can acknowledge this line is problematic. We Koch / Reason libertarians have no objection to individual net worths of $100 billion or more, so there was always going to be some minor disagreement between us and the increasingly "democratic socialist" Democratic Party on economics.

    Still, Warren (or any Democrat) would be better than Drumpf (or any Republican) on the issue on which nearly all American billionaires are united — the need for more immigration. So we should overlook this anti-One-Percenter rhetoric.

    #LibertariansForWarren

  • Crusty Juggler||

    We Koch / Reason libertarians have no objection to individual net worths of $100 billion or more

    Truth.

  • Chipper Morning Wood||

    This is the alt-right hate of George Soros shining through.

  • CatoTheChipper||

    OBL: Why don't you support Tulsi Gabbart?

    Same question for Tony.

  • Tony||

    Because she's Putin's candidate (because he thinks she's most likely to lose to whatever replaces Trump on the R ticket).

  • Deconstructed Potato||

    Blame Russia! Of course!

  • OpenBordersLiberal-tarian||

    Well said Tony. And even if Gabbard somehow won Putin would be OK with that too. Since she pushes the "anti-war" agenda which is really code for "weaken America and strengthen Russia."

    #LibertariansForAMuscularForeignPolicy
    #LibertariansForStayingInSyria
    #BombTheTalibanDontNegotiateWithThem

  • Still Curmudgeoned (Nunya)||

    Russia did it is the new Godwin's Law.

    You sound as fucking stupid as people walking around creating analogies to Nazism.

  • John C. Randolph||

    she's Putin's candidate

    You don't even know how stupid you sound, do you?

    -jcr

  • Diane Reynolds (Paul.)||

    Tony, are you that new York times reporter that got schooled by a former host of fear factor and caller of cage match fights?

  • OpenBordersLiberal-tarian||

    See, for example, Russia's propaganda machine discovers 2020 Democratic candidate Tulsi Gabbard

    As if her status as Putin's favorite Democrat wasn't bad enough, she also has a history of anti-LGBTQ statements. Obviously that alone is disqualifying.

    Want to know a quick way to understand which Democrats are bad? If phony "progressive," #TrumpRussia denialists like Glenn Greenwald and Michael Tracey say nice things about them, they're bad.

  • Crusty Juggler||

    Why does Elizabeth Warren hate snow?

    It's white and settled on her land.

  • Rockabilly||

    Good one !!!

  • agentalbert||

    Oh, I'm stealing that, thank you!

  • Diane Reynolds (Paul.)||

    But only on 1/1024th of her land.

  • Ecoli||

    My wife is a Choctaw Indian. She even has a card, so she is the real deal. She is blonde with blue eyes, so I have the best of both worlds.

    Because of my native connections I am honor bound to vote for Lizzie.

    Lizzie Warren had an axe (tomahawk, actually)
    Gave Bernie Sanders forty whacks (chops, actually)
    When she saw what she had done
    She gave Cortez forty one (more chops)

  • dave b.||

    Most $5 Indian whites have a card, so it's mostly meaningless

  • BLPoG||

    I never see Borden references anymore. Despite that, you'd be surprised how many people still visit the cemetery to see the grave sites. I got asked by four people where to find hers the last time I was there.

  • Crusty Juggler||

    I never see Borden references anymore.

    That's because you probably rarely interact with 74-year-old disgraced former nuns.

  • Ecoli||

    How dare you call me a 74 year old disgraced former nun!

    I am nowhere near 74.

  • Rich||

    "enough is enough"

    "Vote Libertarian!"

  • Sevo||

    She speaks with forked tongue.

  • Chipper Morning Wood||

    She has accomplished so much, running for president will be just another feather in her cap.

  • Sevo||

    You mean "bonnet", I'm sure.

  • Francisco d'Anconia||

    Pure, unadulterated evil.

  • Ray McKigney||

    With a heinous voice, to boot.

  • Crusty Juggler||

    And yet a nice pair of soft, sultry lips.

  • Chipper Morning Wood||

    She smokes a mean peace pipe.

  • Aloysious||

    If I know what you mean, and I think I do.

  • Bob Meyer||

    Here ideas are pretty adulterated. They're rotten to the core. \

  • Rockabilly||

    Massof2Shits is Woke for Comrade Warren.

    Soon, cars and planes will be illegal.

    We'll all walk places or maybe ride a Choo Choo train or bike. Heck, maybe even a horse.

    And the peoples will be fit.

    Things will be calmer, no racing around in your Hummer or 1966 Corvette convertible.

    And it you don't feel like working, don't worry, you'll be provided for.

  • Last of the Shitlords||

    It's just a lot easier to get rid of all the progtards. We will all be free, and they will all be warm and cozy in the landfills that will be their new home.

  • Diane Reynolds (Paul.)||

    Warren want to bring back and expand iron horse.

  • Diane Merriam||

    So I assume that from "a rigged system that props up the rich and powerful and kicks dirt on everyone else" she is implying that she is poor and powerless?

  • Ken Shultz||

    "Warren, a progressive populist, is arguably the furthest-left-leaning candidate in the race—at least until Sen. Bernie Sanders (I–VT) makes his candidacy official. Sanders and Warren differ in some respects: Most notably, Sanders would like to replace the capitalist system, whereas Warren only aspires to reform it."

    Thank goodness Robby is here to explain these things to us. How would we know what to think otherwise?

    For the record, closed primaries will be won on the basis of which candidate is the most social justice warrior, the most extreme on environmental issues, etc. The open primary states will probably be won by the Democrat who can raise the most money from the progressive faithful.

    So, why say who is how far out on the left when they haven't ever started trying to top each other yet in earnest to compete for those primaries and donors? Are you trying to say that we should support Warren because she's better than Sanders? Is that what you're trying to say?

  • Crusty Juggler||

    You're such a whiny cunt.

  • Ken Shultz||

    Did I step on your favorite candidate, Crusty?

    Do you imagine that Robby is about to pull the lever for Trump?

    And, you know, that LIz Warren isn't as bad as Bernie. I guess we should give her a serious look!

    What else am I supposed to make of this?

  • Crusty Juggler||

    What else am I supposed to make of this?

    An impressive amount of intentional cuntiness?

  • NotAnotherSkippy||

    Did you turn your jag into a hearse too?

  • Last of the Shitlords||

    Crusty is just horned up for Liz Warren.

  • Deconstructed Potato||

    Ken is the least whiny and most thoughtful commenter in Kochistan.

  • Ray McKigney||

    + 100 illegals

  • mtrueman||

    "For the record, closed primaries will be won on the basis of which candidate is the most social justice warrior, the most extreme on environmental issues, etc"

    No, if Dems want to win, and I think they do*, they will go for telegenic and reassuring. The trouble with the Left, since Lenin had to renege on the less than favourable results of an election he set in motion; what may well have been Russia's freest and most open election ever, is over-confidence in the attractiveness of its agenda among the working class. We see it again and again. Planners of the Tet offensive, communist to a man, simply assumed the working class would take up arms and fight by their side. Much the same thinking lead to the demise of dear comrade Che in Bolivia.

    * I often have the sneaking suspicion that some candidates really don't want to win. I got that vibe from Romney in particular, and Trump too.

  • Sevo||

    Fuck off, asshole. No one cares about your blog.

  • mtrueman||

    Enough about Warren. Let's discuss me now.

  • Rebel Scum||

    Fauxcahontas wants to be Big Chief.

    And she picked an interesting time to enter, considering she was preemptively crashing and burning. It's a bold strategy, Cotton. Let's see how it plays out.

  • NashTiger||

    Lieawatha

  • Let freedom ring||

    Because libertarians and conservatives cannot wrap their minds around the truth of the lawful application of the income tax, they cannot properly challenge the left's tax the rich mantra. Americans understood the income tax did not apply to ordinary workers, and only about 9% of workers filed tax returns until the "Voluntary Income Tax " to support WWII. Disney ran Donald Duck cartoons to encourage voluntary compliance! Then after WWII people suddenly discovered the Tax was no longer voluntary, despite no law attempting to make it mandatory. Abbot and Costello were shocked to find themselves convicted of tax evasion for what they thought was a voluntary tax.
    The new tool was universal withholding, which Milton Friedman helped design. Even there, the withholding laws were not changed, and only authorize withholding on federally connected entities. When Friedman questioned a Congessional committee what non taxpayers could do if non taxable income was withheld, he was told they could file for a Refund!
    So Tax Honesty people were correct there is no law requiring most Americans to file tax returns or pay income tax. However, there is evidence in the form of W-2 and 1099 Infotmation Returns that claim you did so receive taxable income. These can be lawfully rebutted by filing an educated return. Tens of thousands receive full refunds of all withholdings, including Federal and State, even payroll taxes, by filing educated returns. To learn more, see www.losthorizons.com

  • Sevo||

    "So Tax Honesty people were correct there is no law requiring most Americans to file tax returns or pay income tax. However, there is evidence in the form of W-2 and 1099 Infotmation Returns that claim you did so receive taxable income. These can be lawfully rebutted by filing an educated return. Tens of thousands receive full refunds of all withholdings, including Federal and State, even payroll taxes, by filing educated returns."

    Don't worry. No matter how full the jails get, they'll find a place for you.

  • Earth Skeptic||

    So, full retard.

  • Rich||

    "Our fight is for big structural change"

    "Indeed, *heap* big change!"

  • Bob Meyer||

    But cost too much wampum!

  • Jerryskids||

    "The man in the White House is not the cause of what is broken. He is just the latest and most extreme symptom of what has gone wrong in America...."

    Something is happening here, but you don't know what it is do you, Mr. Jones?

    I agree completely that Trump's not a cause but a symptom and what's gone wrong with America is Elizabeth Warren. Vicious little would-be Hitlers convinced of their own moral and intellectual superiority and without the slightest sliver of humility that blinds them to just how astoundingly arrogant and profoundly dumb they really are. As somebody put it, the hate and anger displayed by Trump supporters is the normal reaction of the normal person to being condescended to by his inferiors. How dare Warren preach to us as if she's not a thief and a grifter, a liar, a cheat, an evil, immoral, pathetically stupid creature?

  • Gaear Grimsrud||

    Warren has so completely beclowned herself I'm actually a little bit surprised that she didn't postpone her announcement. But considering the clown show the Democrats have become I guess it doesn't matter.

  • Barnstormer||

    Nailed it.

  • Nardz||

    "the hate and anger displayed [toward] Trump supporters"

    FIFY

  • ||

    The illiberal left in the DNC ranks are scarier than Trump and the Evangelical right combined.

  • Fats of Fury||

    Well I guess Hillary will be running. Her slogan," I may be a crooked warmongering bitch but at least I'm the sane one".

  • NotAnotherSkippy||

    We now have TWO CREDIBLE allegations against Fairfax. Why is Robby avoiding this story? And yes, I'm aware he posted on this 2 days ago, but radio silence on the second accuser. And as we were told, multiple accusations increase the credibility. Significantly.

  • Crusty Juggler||

    He is obviously displaying abject cowardice so that he can keep receiving invites to those DC cocktail parties.

  • Gaear Grimsrud||

    Hey it's Saturday. Robby's not a robot. He'll catch up on Monday.

  • Nardz||

    I'm still wondering when we'll get an update on MAGA country, Chicago

  • Ray McKigney||

    Never. It's already been memory-holed.

  • Ecoli||

    It amazes me how quickly the media can bury a story, and how quickly the left can regain their composure and normal blood pressure when it is revealed that there is yet another hate crime hoax.

    Why is Nathan Phillips not tarred and feathered for his disgraceful treatment of innocent school boys?

  • Nardz||

    It's because the truth of the story is just a bonus. A real hate crime can be milked for months, front page, which is awesome.
    But a fake hate crime serves its primary purpose anyway, which is to give drones talking points that they can endlessly bring up in any discussion no matter the subject.
    Yes, I've seen that happen with the MAGA noise story already... including on major media
    Progressivism is totalitarianism, and its fundamental appeal is that fantasy>reality.
    Thus, narrative is truth.
    See: chemjeff arguments for hilarious demonstration

  • Heresy Hunter||

    Yeah, corroborating evidence does make this even more serious. But with him and herring, #3 in line, both in the hotseat, you no the dems will suddenly be ok with Northam, even though he dared to paint his face black. Oh so racist.

  • Gaear Grimsrud||

    Yeah Northam is the path of least resistance for the evil party at this point. The stupid party isn't even in the game. Politics has become so hilarious that my home is filled with laughter every day. We are truly blessed.

  • Ray McKigney||

    Comics today would have so much great material to work with if they weren't all prog whores. What a waste.

  • Nardz||

    It really is a crime against comedy

  • ||

    I know.

    They're too busy being shills to take their craft seriously.

    Total waste and embarrassment.

  • Longtobefree||

    1. What is the net worth of the Warren family?
    2. Having 'private' corporations, but with the government telling them what to produce, when and where, is the classic definition of fascism.

  • Moderation4ever||

    I don't know if I will back Senator Warren, but I welcome her to the race and to make her case for the Presidency. I think that she is truthful in her concerns for the working people. Certainly more than President Trump. I also like her ability to use multisyllable words when she speaks.

  • Rich||

  • Sevo||

    "I also like her ability to use multisyllable words when she speaks."

    THERE'S a real reason to back a lying socialist!
    Are you trying for idiot of the week, or is this your normal level of imbeciclity?

  • Last of the Shitlords||

    It's hard to distinguish isn't it.

  • Sevo||

    I don't know how Moderation4ever chooses to post here, but whatever the criteria, s/he proves to be a fucking ignoramus.
    Any 'moderation' is the number of the posts we get from this bullshitter.

  • Hooha||

    An adolescent lefty slips out the side gate and - being sufficiently domesticated - has not yet realized that every alleyway does not offer the coddling and saucers of warm milk to which it has grown accustomed. It will learn quickly which neighborhoods won't support its arrogant, aggressive ignorance, and it won't stray far from the corner Vox ave and Buzzfeed blvd after that.

    Or, its naive overconfidence and curiosity will win out; it'll get in a few tussles, which it will lose, and it's skin will harden. It will be forced to learn and grow, and it may yet reach adulthood. But the first step is the hardest; it knows how to get off the reservation.

    I have a roommate who is one of the most decent people I know, and of respectable intelligence. His exposure to the outside world is almost exclusively through Twitter, reruns of Jon Stewart's The Daily Show, and John Oliver's drek. He genuinely believed the Gillette commercial was universally well received because of the efficacy of his self-imposed echo-chamber, and was actually surprised when I showed him otherwise (we didn't have to go further than YouTube). It's disturbing how extraordinary the left is at training their disciples to shield themselves from opportunities to broaden the scope of their experience and understanding, all while convincing them that they're the pinnacle of academic achievement.

  • Earth Skeptic||

    But can he code?

  • Hooha||

    nah, but he bakes some mean artisanal breads

  • Nardz||

    "think that she is truthful in her concerns for the working people"

    ^see my comments about progressivism above

  • Paradigm||

    > I think that she is truthful in her concerns for the working people

    So truthful she made millions flipping foreclosures during the 2008 financial crisis. If that's her definition of concern for the working people, I'll take Trump any day of the week.

  • ||

    Is this guy for real?

    Have you seen the economic and unemployment numbers?

  • Ecoli||

    Now that Warren has rejoined the Ivory cast, has Harvard recanted its "first woman of color" proclamation?

  • Ray McKigney||

    Harvard: "We haven't the faintest idea what you're talking about."

  • John C. Randolph||

    "Now leave us alone, we're busy covering our asses so we don't get reamed for discriminating against Asians."

    -jcr

  • Eddy||

    They say Lani Guinier was the first woman of color to get a *tenured* professorship at the law school:

    https://bit.ly/2SC9Ag2

  • Eddy||

    And nothing about Warren's Native American heritage, or being a woman of color, in Warren's faculty profile.

    https://bit.ly/2tfT5ba

    And her publication list says nothing about the book which the right-wing media attributes to her:

    https://amzn.to/2MVeAXN

    Where do you get this story? I bet you think we're at war with Eurasia, too.

  • ||

    "The man in the White House is not the cause of what is broken. He is just the latest and most extreme symptom of what has gone wrong in America—a product of a rigged system that props up the rich and powerful and kicks dirt on everyone else."

    Says the fraud.

    Just when you thought Democrats could not lack anymore self-awareness in comes this piece of work while grabbing a beer.

  • JeremyR||

    Warren actually had much of the same schtick as Trump.

    Only Trump played the working class's problems on China, illegal immigrants, and bad trade deals.

    Warren blames the rich.

  • vek||

    The funny thing is, Trumps list of things to blame is a lot more accurate that Warren's in terms of real world impact!

  • John C. Randolph||

    So, does she have what it takes to be the next Fritz Mondale?

    -jcr

  • DRM||

    The idea that Warren is a "populist" is ridiculous. You want to identify an actual populist? For your first cut, find someone condemned by a majority of the faculty at Harvard. No populist is going to have the support of the people whose job it is to form the minds of America's elite.

  • vek||

    GOSH, can't we just get the civil war over already? I'm tired of even having to read about idiots like Warren. They clearly just need to be taken and back and... Dealt with... I'm 99.9% sure we're waaay beyond a political solution dealing with people like her.

  • Hank Phillips||

    The Comstock Laws the Republicans are trying to resurrect are from 1873 Reconstruction (and Crash and Depression). Unreconstructed Democrat States weren't even allowed electoral votes, and suffragettes were jailed like so many hippies or brown people.

  • vek||

    Ugh.

    Yeah, harsh times, harsh measures and all that. You people who think that every single right can and must be upheld, even during the craziest war times etc, are beyond the pale.

    You guys DO know that Lincoln literally ignored laws legitimately passed by congress, ignored the supreme court, and did numerous other unsavory things? I personally hate Lincoln as he should have let the south do their thing, slavery probably would have gone out on its own before long anyway... But even he had to do all kinds of nasty, un-American shit to hold things together.

    My stating that the same would likely have to happen to save America from doom is simple common sense. Odds of America being saved as anything remotely resembling the country as it used to be are basically zero without some kind of sketchy shit going down.

  • chemjeff radical individualist||

    You know, John Brown's raid on Harper's Ferry was a precipitating event leading up to the Civil War. So, why don't you and your pals - maybe the Bundys? - go take your guns and raid some bird sanctuary or something. You can start to precipitate the Civil War Part Two that you seem to want so desperately. So put down the keyboard and start murderin'! What are you waiting for? As you say, "it's time for some sketchy shit!"

  • vek||

    I think we may well end up with such similar events before long... I'm not a crazy person though, so will surely not instigate such events. And I still have JUST a sliver of hope that things might be worked out peacefully, but I'm leaning probably 10-20% chance things turn out well peacefully, and 80-90% chance things go to shit if things stay peaceful. Even if shit gets real it's probably a coin flip as to whether or not we'll have a good outcome.

    You mistake my opinion on what is LIKELY or NEEDED for a good outcome for what I would LIKE to happen in a perfect world. I'd like for people to just stop being idiots and apply some common sense, rational thinking, etc. All of our problems could be easily solved if such things were to happen...

    However as one who knows a lot of history, and a fair amount about human behavior, I just don't see it happening.

    I'm more or less some dude sitting here looking at events unfolding in the 1930s saying "All this shit going down in Europe and Asia is NOT looking good boys... I think we're heading for a massive war. I just don't see any other likely outcome."

    Then trolls like you are saying I WANT WWII to happen... Well no, I'm just sayin' it probably WILL happen. There IS a difference. Also, the notion that a war is a better option than slavery... I don't see how anybody can argue against that. If we're heading into USSR V 2.0, how would we NOT be better off fighting against that system? Given 10-20 years we may be there.

  • chemjeff radical individualist||

    They clearly just need to be taken and back and... Dealt with...

    So libertarian.

  • Earth Skeptic||

    Well, you and your pussy hat friends claim the world punishes you with words equivalent to violence. How about some real violence?

  • chemjeff radical individualist||

    How about some real violence?

    So libertarian.

  • vek||

    Who cares if it's libertarian?

    That's what you idiots miss. It doesn't matter. If the choice is between being a purist libertarian, and living in hell world USSR V 2.0 (but with AI to spy on you more efficiently!) or to be "ZOMG, not purist libertarian!" But 1,000,000 times more free than commie land... I know which one I'd choose... And I know the one George Washington would choose too.

    It really seems to have not dawned on most libertarians that 100% adherence to purist libertarian principles GUARANTEES that we will be enslaved by leftists psychopaths. Which is why only libertarian leaners who actually have balls can save us. Or some even worse sort of right leaners. We need a George Washington to come along, but all we have is pussies like you who would apparently be fine with being marched off to the Gulag, because that is somehow better than growing a spine and doing what must be done to defeat your oppressors.

    Now, I'm not really actually for taking people out back and dealing with them... Until they've had a fair trial. But with a lot of these people, IMO, they have committed crimes that should land them executions or life in prison. The problem is our system is so corrupt we don't even have equal application of laws now... So other measures may be needed if it comes to it.

  • chemjeff radical individualist||

    Who cares if it's libertarian?

    People who are actually libertarian?

    GUARANTEES that we will be enslaved by leftists psychopaths.

    Or, we'll be enslaved by fascist psychopaths like you. Wow what a choice!

    "doing what must be done"
    "other measures may be needed"
    "taken and back and... Dealt with..."

    You keep repeating this crap. You and people like Shithead about initiating violence against people. At this point I don't really believe you saying that you don't actually want to murder them. That's what I object to. The murder.

  • vek||

    As I said, if in your book being "libertarian" means allowing yourself to be enslaved, or murdered by an oppressive communist dictatorship... Then you can keep it buddy! And that is the position you seem to have, and some others.

    Here's the question: The Founders WERE NOT being literally murdered en masse by the British. They weren't even being enslaved. But there were so many trespasses against their natural rights, they saw fit to fight a war for their freedom.

    At what point does a government who isn't AT THAT VERY SECOND holding a gun to your head become worthy of overthrow? Give me a real fucking answer dude!

    Because most people in the USSR, or Nazi Germany never ACTUALLY had a gun put to THEIR head. Anybody who did, well it was usually too late for them... People who HADN'T had a gun put to their heads yet were the ones who needed to stand up, as is ALWAYS the case.

    I don't think we're there yet mind you, but I can see some very dark trends setting in. You're basically arguing that a good libertarian would have tolerated what the USSR did, as resisting would have been unlibertarian! FUCK THAT.

    As for Fascists vs commies... They're both bad, but the commies are far worse objectively. I want Washington, but if he's not on the table I'll settle for a Pinochet. Remember he stepped down after he'd stopped the commies, rather like a Sulla. Could be worse.

  • Sonny Bono's Ghost||

    I think he just wants the choice between a fast and obvious enslavement or a slow and disguised enslavement.

  • vek||

    Probably.

    People like him are just too dumb. People who think you can ALWAYS have some moral high ground, and never need to kick some ass to have the proper outcome... That's just not how the world works.

    We TRIED making reasonable requests of the British. They dismissed us out of hand, even though we were already in some ways their most important colony.

    Could you have a reasonable conversation with Hitler about things? Genghis Khan? Stalin?

    No. Some people you just can't be reasonable with. Period. People who think things can always be peaceful, and polite, when people are literally arguing about the must fundamental issues facing mankind (freedom vs slavery), are fools. End of discussion.

  • Ordinary Person||

    You know she kinda does have the look of an Indian somewhere in there.

  • Hattori Hanzo||

    I'm looking forward to the Democratic primaries with much anticipation. It's going to be an amazing shit show as they cannibalize each other.

  • TrickyVic (old school)||

    Yes, and for once in my life I would like to see Hillary throw her hat into the right just for the entertainment value.

  • Hank Phillips||

    Clearly what is needed are more Comstock laws banning birth control. That'll put them uppity wymminz in their place. Lookit how well the Constitutional Amendment banning birth control worked in Ireland!

  • Gasman||

    "The man in the White House is not the cause of what is broken," said Warren. "He's just the latest and most extreme symptom of what has gone wrong in America."

    She merely took Hillary's 'deplorable' quote and polished it with more formal language. But she still is saying that the problem is at least half of Americans.

  • vek||

    To be fair, she only means the 62% or so of white Americans! Herself excluded of course, because she is super woke and such like. But all the rest of them who believe in the ideals that America was founded on... They're DEFINITELY the problem.

  • CGN||

    Oh my God! Warren teaches at Harvard, so she simply CANNOT be dumb enough to believe what she has said. Rich people, like me (little rich) are rich because they work hard, are smart, and are risk takers. And she CERTAINLY knows that if one took ALL the money from the top percent of earners it wouldn't fund the federal government for 10 minutes. People are poor for a number of reasons NONE of which have anything to do with the "unfairness" Warren describes above. Warren knows what she says is drivel, but she also knows it is "red meat" for some, so why not lie like a rug, which is EXACTLY what Warren is doing. May God NOT have mercy on her soul, assuming she has one.

  • Tony||

    There are definite structural and policy reasons why most people's inflation-adjusted wages haven't gone up since the 1970s while the richer you are the steeper the curve has been for your rise in wealth. Reaganomics didn't even hide its motives all that well.

    If you think the nonrich should simply accept never getting a share of economic growth despite doing all the actual work, then you have an economic moral philosophy that is at odds with what we've been sold as the point of capitalism (work hard, get prosperous). There are many such moral philosophies, and macroeconomic policy reflects one of them. We are living at the mercy of a bad one.

  • Cyto||

    Anyone who thinks that most people's inflation adjusted wages haven't gone up since the 70's is bone stupid. It is a big lie told often and loudly so that a bunch of morons will attach to it. It doesn't pass the giggle test.

    Real wages is more complicated than one might think, but you have to be seriously politically motivated to come up with nonsense like inflation adjusted wages haven't gone up since the 70's.

    What is important is purchasing power. Go look in the average working stiff's home and see what he has.

    I live in a house built for the wealthy of the 1960's. The lack of storage space is telling. A starter home of today is bigger, and the storage space is probably tenfold larger. People today have stuff. Loads of stuff.

    Food is cheap enough that the working poor are often obese. Much more obese than in the 70's (when we were already fairly wealthy and fat).

    There's lots of issues with the economy in a world where factory work is not the dominant path to the middle class, but good lord son, leave the stupid "poor getting poorer" trope alone. It has been a constant and stupid refrain at least since Teddy Kennedy was running in the 70's.

  • Cyto||

    And the path to getting super-wealthy is shorter and the wealth greater today not because of any structural system keeping the poor down and funneling money to the rich. The economy today is more open and accessible because of technology and transportation, so a guy like Bezos can create a company and become the wealthiest man in the world in a couple of decades.

    The way you make a lot of money is to earn a little bit over a large number of transactions. Selling stuff to a million people would have been almost impossible in the 1840s. Catalog companies came along a century later and made it possible. The internet came along and suddenly reaching 300 million potential customers was within range of anyone doing business in the US. And with minimal work, you could turn that into a billion by adding Europe and South America.

    Meanwhile, unskilled labor has become less valuable, because there are more people and automation has massively increased productivity. That is what keeps low end wages down.

    That is the point of capitalism. Not work hard, get rich. It is "serve a market, get rich". It is all based on the voluntary exchange of goods and services. You can't get rich singing in a small town bar, even if you get a $10 cover from every patron and work 6 nights a week for years. But you can get filthy stinking rich selling MP3s for a buck each to 10 million people, even though it only involved a couple of weeks work.

  • vek||

    I think there are some "structural" reasons that wage growth between different quintiles has taken different paths... But whether or not they are FAIR or UNFAIR is entirely debatable. That things like automation, globalization, etc has reduced the real free market value of low skilled labor... Is that fair or unfair? Many would say it is an obvious outcome of unavoidable things, which makes it fairly fair and reasonable, and not a giant plot.

    But yeah, I think anybody who argues that the typical person isn't better off today is smoking crack... BUT my one caveat to that is that while people have more little things, some of the big expenses have become a lot harder to crack recently. Housing perhaps being the biggest one. Thing is, half of that is related to BS Fed policies, and central planning forcing increased density, and not really much else.

  • Diane Reynolds (Paul.)||

    Sexual orientation of everyone involved?

  • Liberty Lover||

    Is Elizabeth Warren running as the first Native American Presidential candidate?

  • Diane Reynolds (Paul.)||

    I believe she has... Apologized for her previous statements on being native American.

  • loveconstitution1789||

    This Democrat shit show is gonna be great for America shifting even more away from Socialism.

  • Tionico||

    The issue is not wealth, or who has it. The REAL issue is the greedy gummint holding their hand out for all the money they can get and more, to support the likes of this Fauxa Haunt Us creature.

    There is NO WAY an annual tax on the assets of the rich can fly. Income, maybe. They've gotten off with that one for years. But personal property? Can't be done.
    People like Bill Gates have a partial defense/shelter against that already.... and so do the Clintons He and She. Think about it. How much INCOME tax would they have paid on that $.5Mn "speaker fee" ol Slickie hauled in if that had accrued to their PERSONAL stash? But no, they've set up a "foundation" against such taxation. They can spend it how they will, but the organisationitself is a non-profit. Benefit, no burden.

    No, the problem is all the regulations, licensing, "studies", permits, government at every level impose on anyone attempting to make any money at anything. So too few DO make money. Why work more than half theyear for the very entity that makes your life miserable, consumes what you DO make, etc? Anyone smart enough to accumulate wealth is also smart enough to hang on to it.

  • Spookk||

    Pretty much what I expected. I also agree with most of the things I have heard her say, and just about everything she says about government dysfunction, class warfare, etc. Chopping the heads off of most of the political elites/oligarchs is long overdue, but this will do as a start.

  • Sonny Bono's Ghost||

    Export-Import Bank.

    That is all.

  • Rockabilly||

    You fucking assholes in Washington is what's wrong in America.

    You fucked it up with all your fucking laws and fucking taxes and general fucking bull shit

    Go Fuck Yourself Fakehotus/

  • ddavel||

    '....of what has gone wrong in America.".....And what is wrong with America? She has NO definitive answers other than her strategy for addressing it is to take money away from wealthy people.' ...Typical Liberal Socialist! And a FAKE lying Indian to boot!!

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