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What should be done about school shootings?

What should be done about school shootings?

After the horrible shooting in Parkland, Florida, President Trump suggested that some teachers carry guns. "We need to let people know, you come in to our schools—you're gonna be dead."

Anti-gun activists were horrified.

But they probably didn't know that many teachers have brought guns to work with them for years.

Some teachers at the Keene Independent School District in Texas carry concealed weapons at school.

"We know our staff and our teachers are gonna go" defend students, Texas' Keene Independent School District Superintendent Ricky Stephens told me for this week's online video. "Do we want them to go with a pencil or go with a pistol?"

Stephens acknowledges that an attacker might have heavier weaponry than his teachers' handguns. "It's not much, but it's better than nothing," he argues. "If you go there with nothing, you have no chance of stopping anything."

His teachers saw how in Florida the "school resource officer" simply waited outside during February's school shooting.

"It made me mad," a teacher in Stephens' district told us. She's glad she carries her gun. "We have to have a fighting chance if something should happen." For my video, superintendent Stephens asked us to obscure her identity. He doesn't want potential attackers to know which teachers are armed.

Opponents of armed teachers fear that guns will create new dangers. But even though teachers carry at hundreds of schools, I could find only one instance where one of those guns hurt a student. A California teacher accidentally discharged his weapon at the ceiling. A student was cut by falling debris. That's it. One minor injury.

By contrast, armed school staffers have stopped school shootings. In Pearl, Mississippi, an assistant principal held a boy who killed two classmates at gunpoint until police arrived.

No one knows how often armed teachers deter shootings. The media can't cover crimes that are never attempted.

Of course, the media distort proposals to allow teachers to carry.

One commentator shouted, "Teachers should not be required to protect!"

But no teacher is required to carry. It's voluntary. Those who want to can bring their guns to school.

On MSNBC, pundits criticized President Trump for advocating "arming" teachers, as if he'd proposed a federal program.

He didn't. He just talked about "armed educators." Since lots of teachers already carry guns, all a school has to do is allow some to bring their weapons to work.

The Keene district, however, does go further. "The school purchases the gun, and we register them to (some of) our teachers," says Stephens. Those teachers get 80 hours of firearms training and are paid an extra $50 per month.

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  • Captain Hindsight||

    Would love to see a study comparing the incidence of shootings in gun free zones vs. non gun free zones (either publicly or privately mandated) normalized for human time spent within said locations.

    My gut says it's either a statistically negligible difference due to the low number of incidences, or higher in gun free zones.

  • MatthewSlyfield||

    Has there ever been a mass shooting at a gun range?

  • FlameCCT||

    Over 90% of shootings occur in gun free zones.

  • TxJack 112||

    There are over 100 school districts in Texas that permit teachers to carry concealed weapons. In addition, Texas has campus carry allowing university personnel to carry concealed weapons. Texas also allows concealed carry in many state agencies. Although anti-gun zealots claimed each one of these proposals would result in countless deaths and "blood running in the hallways", there have been no shootings. ZERO, NADA, ZILCH.... You have to ask yourself why in a state the left loves to portray as insane with lax gun laws why are the number of shootings so much less than states with more restrictive laws. Chicago and Houston are cities of comparable size. Chicago has law enforcement ratio of 12:100k residents vs Houston which is 5:100K, yet Houston has less than 1/2 the number of murders as Chicago. Chicago bans concealed carry and has more than one attempted to outlaw all guns. So if banning guns is the answer why is Chicago more dangerous? Houston has 30,000 people with a license to carry and criminals know there is always a chance they will face someone with a gun, so they think twice.

  • Brendan||

    To be fair, Chicago doesn't ban concealed carry. Illinois does, however, make it damned hard - 16 hours of training, $150 fee, so many places off limits that carrying is limited in Chicago, etc.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Do we want them to go with a pencil or go with a pistol?

    Someone needs to have his theater students put on Richelieu; Or the Conspiracy for him.

  • Earth Skeptic||

    "What should be done about school shootings?"

    Maybe stop talking about them?

    Given that all school shootings are statistically rare, and "mass" shootings true black swan events, the bigger social impact is not so much actual shootings but the fear of shootings. This contributes to pre-traumatic stress disorder, and gets people all twisted off.

    And among whatever external factors might contribute to a shooters motivation, awareness of past similar events has to count for something. So while we are violating the 2nd Amendment, we might as well piss on the 1st, and ban media coverage of anything involving gun violence in schools.

  • Cloudbuster||

    "What should be done about school shootings?"

    Nothing. Criminal violence, including murder has been trending down for decades. Zero incidents is an unrealistic standard. We're trending in the right direction. We have plenty of laws. More than enough government restrictions on individual liberty.

    No need to do something.

  • Longtobefree||

    So the answer is to actually allow teachers their constitutional rights? Damn. I wish I had thought of that.

  • LEAPGuyAZ||

    BIG difference between being trained to shoot a paper target and being mentally prepared to use deadly force to take a life. I would guess even harder to to use deadly force against a young person. Each year well trained police officers are shot because they hesitate for a second.

    Before you ask anyone to use deadly force make sure they're mentally prepared.

  • KirbyDaniels||

    Teachers should have guns in case of emergency! Look at Florida and how many school shootings they are having. I know for a fact that if I will have someone to do my assignment at OceanEssay, then I won't be a school shooter.

  • Cthulunotmyfriend||

    This is so stupid. Stossel is so hit and miss. I've worked as a public school teacher. Many of my colleagues lost their keys, bags, etc. to students all the time! Not all, but some. And don't hate on the teachers; 10% of the work force in any job is just plain incompetent. More guns will results in more 'unfortunate instances' when students swipe the teachers gun and cause havoc, or some crazy teacher goes on a shooting spree. At least 1% of the teachers are crazy at any school, and I would say the same for any other job out there. Think of the craziest guy you know at work. Would you want him armed and teaching your children? Way more deaths will result than lives will be saved by such a policy. That is why the whole idea is STUPID! At least if it's a big no no to bring a gun to school, anyone who does so knows they better not be an idiot or hothead, since that could result in their being fired.

  • Cthulunotmyfriend||

    This is so stupid. Stossel is so hit and miss. I've worked as a public school teacher. Many of my colleagues lost their keys, bags, etc. to students all the time! Not all, but some. And don't hate on the teachers; 10% of the work force in any job is just plain incompetent. More guns will results in more 'unfortunate instances' when students swipe the teachers gun and cause havoc, or some crazy teacher goes on a shooting spree. At least 1% of the teachers are crazy at any school, and I would say the same for any other job out there. Think of the craziest guy you know at work. Would you want him armed and teaching your children? Way more deaths will result than lives will be saved by such a policy. That is why the whole idea is STUPID! At least if it's a big no no to bring a gun to school, anyone who does so knows they better not be an idiot or hothead, since that could result in their being fired.

  • Cthulunotmyfriend||

    This is so stupid. Stossel is so hit and miss. I've worked as a public school teacher. Many of my colleagues lost their keys, bags, etc. to students all the time! Not all, but some. And don't hate on the teachers; 10% of the work force in any job is just plain incompetent. More guns will results in more 'unfortunate instances' when students swipe the teachers gun and cause havoc, or some crazy teacher goes on a shooting spree. At least 1% of the teachers are crazy at any school, and I would say the same for any other job out there. Think of the craziest guy you know at work. Would you want him armed and teaching your children? Way more deaths will result than lives will be saved by such a policy. That is why the whole idea is STUPID! At least if it's a big no no to bring a gun to school, anyone who does so knows they better not be an idiot or hothead, since that could result in their being fired.

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