Election 2020

Trump Beats His GOP Competitors at Fundraising 194 to 1

The 'Three Stooges' of Bill Weld, Joe Walsh, and Mark Sanford raised $647,000 combined in the third quarter, compared to $125.7 million for the presidential juggernaut.

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Here is one way of thinking about President Donald Trump's massive fundraising advantage over his GOP primary opponents Bill Weld, Joe Walsh, and Mark Sanford: If you stacked in $1 bills the combined $647,000 third quarter fundraising haul of the "Three Stooges" ($457,400 for Weld, $129,200 for Walsh, $60,400 for Sanford), it would go up to about 230 feet, or 20 stories—the height of the Drop Line in Dollywood.

What if you did the same for the combined Trump/Republican National Committee (RNC) third quarter total of $125.7 million? That would be 45,000 feet, more than eight miles high, the absolute upper altitude limit for commercial aircraft. A Mt. Everest and a half, with some extra snow on top. It is a lot more money, is what I am saying.

The Trump re-election campaign by itself raised $41 million in the quarter, second only to billionaire long shot Democrat Tom Steyer's largely self-funded $49.6 million, according to recently released Federal Election Commission filings. But since the Trump campaign and the RNC have literally and unprecedentedly merged, he also gets access to the latter's $84.7 million. He is out-fundraising his combined Republican competition by a ratio of 194 to 1.

How low is the Three Stooges' combined $650,000 (rounded up) total? Consider that Montana Gov. Steve Bullock, who has qualified for only one of the four Democratic presidential debates so far (in part because he's polling nationally at around 0.4 percent), raised more than three times as much in the third quarter (July, August, and September).

Weld's total was lower than his already-pathetic second quarter figure of $688,000, despite having two extra weeks (he officially announced on April 15). The former Massachusetts governor and 2016 Libertarian Party vice presidential nominee has $208,000 cash on hand, far behind the $1.3 million war chest of Mark Sanford, the former South Carolina congressman and governor, who transferred almost all of that from his former congressional account, according to The Post and Courier. Illinois congressman turned political shock jock Walsh (who entered the race Aug. 25; Sanford came in the following week) has $115,000.

It is rare in four-way polling for Weld/Walsh/Sanford to combine for even 10 percent against Trump. The RealClearPolitics national polling average givs Trump 85.3 percent, Weld and Walsh 2.8 percent each, and Sanford 2.3 percent. Things look somewhat better close to Weld's home in the early primary state of New Hampshire, where an Oct. 9-13 RKM Research and Communications survey of 405 likely Republican voters had Trump at 71 percent, Weld at 14 percent, Walsh at 5 percent, and Sanford at 1 percent.

Weld's strategy leans heavily on a surprise showing in New Hampshire, where he hopes he can be more like Pat Buchanan in 1992 than Pete McCloskey in 1972.

Trump's approval rating among Republicans has been at 2019 lows in the last two Gallup polls. But that's still at 87 percent; he was as low as 81 percent in 2018, and occasionally dipped into the 70s his first year in office. State Republican parties, under pressure from his campaign, have been canceling primaries and changing delegate-allocation rules to make the 2020 Republican National Convention more like a "four-day television commercial."

Even while a slim but growing majority of Americans continue to support Trump's removal from office, the Republican Party is unifying in support for its historically unpopular president.

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    1. FOREIGN POLICY IMPLODING!

    2. If the Turks actually hold up their side of the bargain. I hope they do but I’m not gonna hold my breath on that. Erdogan is scum (anyone else remember the time he sicced his security detail on protesters in the USA?)

      1. ^ This. If Erdogan was being honest (lol) about only wanting a 20-mile buffer zone to resettle Syrian refugees, this isn’t going to be quite the history-making genocide that we’re being told is brewing.

        It seems like the actual military action has been fairly restrained, all things considered, but I expect to hear about more targeted killings like this one.

        1. They’ve done some shit, for sure.
          But I really don’t think they like the prospect of taking on Syrian+Russian forces, in addition to the rather formidable Kurds, while simultaneously facing some sort of US sanctions (and possibly EU added).
          Turkey is in no position to get into a real war right now.

        2. If Erdogan was being honest (lol) about only wanting a 20-mile buffer zone to resettle Syrian refugees, this isn’t going to be quite the history-making genocide that we’re being told is brewing.

          Yeah, after Assad and the Russians have killed hundreds of thousands of Syrians and displaced millions, it’s hard to quibble with Turkey’s unilateral demand to ethnically cleanse a twenty-mile swath of a sovereign nation so it can force Syrian refugees to resettle there.

      2. Don’t worry – if the Turks choose to bomb anyway, they’ll just block anyone from finding out about it. Vicious lies!

    3. Hey Kurds,

      We’ll stop bombing you guys for 5 days so you can just surrender. I wonder how that’s going to go over.

      1. Um. They agreed to it?

        1. Turkey did. The Kurds weren’t invited or consulted.

    4. Tell that to the dead Kurds and the 150,000 on the run.

      1. I don’t own a Ouija board dipshit.

      2. Newsflash, dipshit–you know those “Free Syrian Army” rebels who are allied with the Turks and are responsible for as many Kurdish deaths and civilian displacement as Erodogan since the rebellion began?

        Guess who armed those guys in the first place?

        1. Guess who armed those guys in the first place?

          Um… *checks notes* that would be the Americans, at least until Trump also cut and ran from that alliance.

      3. Tell that to the dead Kurds and the 150,000 on the run.

        I’m telling it to the living Kurds who are now not going to be killed.

      4. “Tell that to the dead Kurds and the 150,000 on the run.”

        Let us know when you get there and start fighting.

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  1. This really isn’t surprising considering he’s the incumbent and the guys running are… ok, who’s running against Trump again?

    1. wait, there are Republicans running against him? I thought they were just up to their usual NeverTrumper bs

      1. Two Republicans and Bill Weld.

        1. Bill Weld is a republican. Always has been.

          1. Like when he ran on the Libertarian ticket and endorsed the Democrat?

            1. No Republicans were anti Trump.

          2. Bill Weld is a Democrat. Always has been.

            There you go, fixed it for you.

            A Democrat that endorsed Hillary in fact.

      2. Not so much “running”, as crawling.

        I doubt Trump is going to spend any of that money in the primaries, he’ll save it all for the general election. He’d actually increase his ‘opponents” (Who were they, again?) name recognition if he attacked them.

    2. Stanford had a press conference yesterday… 1 single reporter and an awkward family of 4 wondering why there was a big check on a stage were the only witnesses.

  2. Big money loves the crook what a fuckin surprise.

    1. Hillary out raised trump 2 to 1 if not more. Most of the billionaires are donating to the various democrats. Does your assertion still stand?

      1. No, it doesn’t change that Trump is a crook. Did you read the ProPublica reporting on Trump’s taxes and his financial statements to banks? I bet you have no fucking clue.

        1. Such a bitter little man you are. You should lighten up Francis.

        2. Did they get the big scoop from Maddow?

        3. “No, it doesn’t change that Trump is a crook.”

          You keep lying about that and never have any evidence.
          Fucking lefty ignoramuses…

        4. Why did you make the statement if you cant even apply it uniformly? Are you that fucking stupid?

        5. Oh wait… you’re still on the overstating of assets thing? Basically you’re saying you’re fucking retarded. Go look at Zillow and get the estimate on your house. Then look at the appraised value from your county. They don’t match up. Assets are hard to value you fucking retard. Real estate firms are also allowed to prepare docs to split land which generally increases value from subletting, but they withhold sending in the documents until development is done. This is to save on tax statements. Every real estate company does this. Just because you and other liberals are fucking retards doesnt make other people a crook.

        6. Jesse doesn’t read ProPublica.

          If it doesn’t appear on Fox News or at the Federalist or Washington Examiner, Jesse hasn’t heard of it

          1. Jesse doesn’t read ProPublica.

            FTFY

          2. Little Jeffy makes an appearance just to say what Jesse reads. Cuz he knows.

    2. “Big money loves the crook what a fuckin surprise.”

      Yeah, but she lost, you imbecile.
      Try to keep up.

  3. Matt Welch is not the most credible person claiming to support a free market at the same timer he supports coercive monopolies like state government.

    You cannot have it both ways, Matt.

    1. Please point out where Matt Welch has supported any state government, other than when they increase freedom in some small way.

      You cannot have it your way without some proof.

      1. He has supported the IC abuse against Trump in has admiration love letters to Amash posing as articles here. He has no articles critical of the abuse or even the FISA abuse. He even defended Amashs support of the Mueller report earlier this year. Granted this was the federal government and not state governments.

        1. In other words he has supported oversight with regard to your fucking God King, Trumpian. I can see why you’re upset.

          1. You think oversight requires the illegal spying on political candidates? Yeap, you’re retarded.

            1. There is no oversight on Trump that you would regard as anything other than “PARTISAN WITCH HUNT”

              1. Once again, here’s Little Jeffy telling other people what they would do in his mind. Starting to get a better picture of his fantasies than I would prefer.

            2. Jesse thinks investigating the most powerful political figure in the country of suspected wrongdoing is abuse of power. Thanks for the chuckle.

        2. You mean he has supported some checks on government power. Excellent.

          You mean you ignore all the Reason articles disapproving of FISA.

          1. I don’t know if the deepstate/intelligencecommunity/congressional complex doing everything in its power to kneecap their adversary is quite what I’d call “checking government power.”

            1. This, if Congress really wanted to check power they wouldn’t be turning over every rock looking for Russians, they’d take back their power from the Executive that they never had the authority to grant in the first place.

          2. So the use of the IC to you is just part of checks and balance…. the IC that is part of the executive spying on its chief executive? Yeap, you’re retarded.

            1. Government fighting government is better than government fighting people. I have no sympathy for either side.

      2. It’s the state limited coercive monopoly itself that he supports !

        Government is a service and can be provided on the market – if allowed.
        Matt would prefer it not be allowed.

        1. Citations, please. You won’t show any because there are none.

          1. UPS. Healthcare. Private security. Toll roads. Investment funds (way better than SS).

            Your turn.

            1. Pretty sure he’s looking for citations for “Matt would prefer it not be allowed.”

              1. That’s absolutely it. Unfortunately, I forgot to be explicit and left a hole big enough for mendacious fools to feign ignorance.

              2. No no you’re missing the point.

                See, Matt Welch is not a fire-breathing right-wing anarchist who yells FUCK THE STATE and calls Nancy Pelosi a communist.

                Therefore, Matt Welch must be a big government progressive Democrat who will vote for Bernie Sanders.

                It is known

                1. “Matt Welch is not a fire-breathing right-wing anarchist who yells FUCK THE STATE and calls Nancy Pelosi a communist.

                  Therefore, Matt Welch must be a big government progressive Democrat who will vote for Bernie Sanders.”

                  Hmm, this doesn’t sound like anything I’ve ever seen posted here, Little Jeffy Schiff. Oh right, it’s just a parody of what others say. That you can use to demonize people that never said it. That’s how you win arguments in your fantasy world while we laugh at you.

  4. Yesterday, Ken had me almost convinced that I as a socialist should be supporting Obamacare because it allows people to buy an insurance plan from Prudential. I mean, you know, at face value that sounds like the craziest shit ever, but Ken had some good points. Ken, you there? Why as a socialist should I stop supporting Medicare for All and get behind America’s insurance company scam— best represented by Obamacare? Further, i’m trying to figure out what insurance companies actually do besides serve as a big wad of money. Do you guys know?

    1. assuming Medicare-for-All not a scam is likely mistake.

    2. Further, i’m trying to figure out what insurance companies actually do besides serve as a big wad of money. Do you guys know?

      Risk management. It’s really not that hard of a concept.

      1. As if a dumbass who can’t pay his mortgage would understand such a concept to begin with.

        1. Oh – is that Joe from Lowell? I should have guessed.

      2. As well as fraud capture. Medicaid and medicare has a fraud rate estimated at 8% at least.

      3. I definitely think medical insurance is valid in principle, but our current hopelessly regulated-and-captured incarnations of it leave a lot to be desired.

    3. “Further, i’m trying to figure out what insurance companies actually do besides serve as a big wad of money. Do you guys know?”

      You can’t be this stupid, can you?

    4. “…Why as a socialist should I stop supporting Medicare for All…”

      Oh, you should keep supporting it; fucking lefty ignoramuses should always support anything with means you get to remain an adolescent your entire life.
      Paid your mortgage yet, scumbag?

    5. Maybe you, as a fucking retarded dipshit moron, should try to figure out why you’re too much of a low IQ ignoramus to learn the basics of probability theory.

  5. I hope every last penny of that war chest is spent on Trump’s reelection campaign if he hasn’t been impeached by then. Even if he runs and loses or is impeached there will be much foolish donor remorse. Think about it, Trump supporters are intellectually challenged thinking he can serve another term.

    1. Trump supporters are intellectually challenged thinking he can serve another term.

      He’ll almost certainly serve another term.

    2. “…Think about it, Trump supporters are intellectually challenged thinking he can serve another term.”

      You should seek help with that TDS.

  6. I wonder how much of that money is foreign money?

    1. Was it $600,000 from Ukrainian Putin linked mobsters to buy off a Republican congressman so that he’d help advance a criminal conspiracy to remove an honest ambassador who was getting in the way of corrupt scheme to pressure the Ukrainian president into announcing that Biden and the DNC were under criminal investigation? This shit is the most rotten shit and you ain’t smelling it it’s probably because you’re a pos yourself.

      1. Sad sad little man.

        1. They’re so desperate

      2. Was it gobble, gobble, gobble……..

        Tiresome, turd, tiresome.

      3. Just pathetic. Would still need 2.4 million to reach Hunter levels.

    2. I bet literally all of Drumpf’s money comes from Russian oligarchs. Since, as Rachel Maddow figured out 2.5 years ago, Russians are controlling our government.

      Fortunately the Democratic challenger will be able to raise big bucks. Especially from patriotic American billionaires, since Democrats are embracing the Koch / Reason open borders agenda favored by the richest people on the planet.

      #RussianOligarchsBad
      #AmericanBillionairesGood

    3. Was it Tide or Gain today?

    4. We wonder if you’ll ever lose your virginity.

  7. I hate the Monarchy , especially the dopes of today, but Queen E is a bad ass like Vicky before her.

    I’m almost certain she likes Trump.

    1. Grab ’em by the cloaca.

  8. It’s the economy, stupid. We’re on the verge of a depression. If the crash happens before the election, Trump loses. If he can keep the markets on life support until after the election, he wins.

    1. If the crash happens before the election, Trump loses. If he can keep the markets on life support until after the election, he wins.

      ^ This.

    2. “We’re on the verge of a depression.”

      Tell us what you’re short.
      Or STFU.

      1. Money.

    3. If you make that claim every year, you’ll eventually be right.

      1. This is my first time.

  9. Anyone notice Turkey announced a peace plan and pull out?

    Lol.

    Wonder what the spin will be now outside ‘muh Kurds’.

    Reeeeeeeeeeee!

    1. I heard there’s a five-day cease fire – was there something more substantial than that?

      1. Pressed against the ‘reeeee!’, it’s not a bad start. We’ll see.

        1. Turks now deny that it is even a ceasefire. I think they are just holding back while the Kurds retreat.

          Keep in mind that this is far from over.

          A retreat from the frontlines is probably in their best interest tactically. They are facing a larger better equipped force. They still have much of their territory. This is a common tactic in that situation. Classically it is called feigned retreat.

          Giap, Mao, Sun Tzu, all did this in those circumstances and won. Kurds can wear down the enemy using Guerilla tactics. Hitting head on is the wrong approach. There are also political factors they can use. They have a lot of sympathy in the west and Assad and Russia are not going to tolerate Turkey slicing up Syria in the long term.

          But trump made the greatest bestest peace deal ever with his tough talk. What an ass.

          1. Yes. Broke a rule. Wait a bit because things change in a jiffy over there.

          2. “But trump made the greatest bestest peace deal ever with his tough talk. What an ass.”

            Really sorry he’s not putting US troops in danger, are you, shitstain?
            Fuck off and die.

          3. Echo…I was reading your post, and nodding in agreement at your historical points. Personally, I think the jury is out on whether this temporary pause (ceasefire) will be helpful in the long run.

            Two points I do think you’d agree with: It was correct to move American troops out of harms way; and the fight between Turkey and the Kurds is not our fight.

      2. Given that the Media/Democrat/NeverTrumper narrative on the Syrian pullout — dutifully echoed by Reason — was that Trump got played like a hayseed at a carnival and Ergodan was going to slaughter the Kurds by the bushel, it’s kind of odd that suddenly Pence got him to stop his offensive.

        Either the Turks have already achieved all their military objectives and don’t need to press on, or perhaps Trump’s blustering has caused them to at least press the pause button and think this over.

  10. “Even while a slim but growing majority of Americans continue to support Trump’s removal from office, the Republican Party is unifying in support for its historically unpopular president.”

    Seems he’s more popular than any of his supposed opponents.

  11. Welch and Tulsi are the ones liable to drain away spoiler votes. So… SURPRISE! The Don like a Capo di Tutti Capi, promptly realizes that the rag… sand people have been murdering each other for 3000 years on the other side of the planet. So let ’em kill each other instead of our troops. Disentangling is good.

  12. Maybe whoever the dem nominee is can give Weld a cabinet position or ambassador to Luxembourg or Lichtenstein. If he gets anywhere north of 5%, it will be because of dems voting for him. As for Sanford and Walsh-who?

  13. one way of “thinking” about President Donald Trump’s massive fundraising advantage

  14. Bill Weld the phony libertarian. Sanford the AWOL governor, Walsh who is just nuts.
    Libertarians have no one to run, screwed up by pairing Weld with Johnson last time.
    We need to give up Libertarian purity for small gains in the house and senate. Liberty is losing badly these days.

    1. I don’t think there’s any amount of purity that will satisfy some party members, since some of these guys are literally against the existence of the political process – which, I’m not judging, but it’s a difficult position to hold as a member of a political party, y’know?

      That said, I definitely think we should at least put up people who are ideologically libertarians, and can actually explain what that means to people in a persuasive way. Weld fails the first test, and while Johnson is a good guy he didn’t do very well on the second. We’ve got several people aiming for the candidacy who are definitely libertarians, but I’m not convinced they get the “persuasive” part.

  15. It is so strange to me that arguably the most newsworthy thing happening in the Trump administration right now is seeing a virtual blackout here on Reason. Why is that?

  16. The next time Reason asks why no one is talking about the national debt I would remind them that three candidates are talking about it and that Mr. Welch labeled them the three stooges.

    1. I think that naked guy at the libertarian convention mentioned it too. I’d call him a stooge but according to you that would be inaccurate

  17. The “three stooges” is a bit harsh. Only Walsh is an actual stooge.

  18. Matt Welch,
    So when Trump is impeached and his approval rating is zilch, Won’t the other three declared GOP candidates have a windfall from the Republican coffers? You seem to think they are worthless, yet one may become the actual candidate of the GOP.

    Also, why do Trump supporters have their heads in the sand over the impeachment likelihood? Can any of them read, or are they just stupid by birth?

    1. Can I get a ten-strip from your sheet of acid?

  19. I am skeptical even that many Republicans know who Weld/Walsh/Other guy are.

  20. 3 stooges is the correct name for them. Fake libertarian, absent libertarian and nut case.
    Libertarians are getting their butts kicked. Trumps judicial nominees are the best a libertarian can get right now.

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