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Poll Finds Majority Support for Legal Marijuana in Three Swing States

Voters are especially tolerant of medical use.

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Jacob Sullum

According to a new Quinnipiac University Poll, a large majority of voters in three swing states—Florida, Ohio, and Pennsylvania—say marijuana should be legal for medical purposes, while considerably smaller majorities say recreational use also should be legal. In Florida and Ohio, 84 percent of respondents said adults should be allowed to "use marijuana for medical purposes if their doctor prescribes it," as did 88 percent of Pennsylvanians. 

When it comes to whether adults should be allowed to "possess small amounts of marijuana for personal use," support is weaker: 55 percent in Florida, 52 percent in Ohio, and 51 percent in Pennsylvania. Still, notes Washington Post blogger Christoper Ingraham, "marijuana legalization is more popular than any potential 2016 presidential contender" in those three states.

Although voter approval of medical marijuana looks like a sure thing, that is not necessarily the case. Quinnipiac surveys put Florida voters' support for medical marijuana above 80 percent in 2013 and 2014. But in November a ballot initiative that would have legalized medical use fell two points short of the 60 percent supermajority required for a constitutional amendment.

Given the potential for such slippage, the Ohio result does not seem to bode very well for the marijuana legalization initiative that is expected to appear on that state's 2015 ballot. The Marijuana Legalization Amendment sponsored by Responsible Ohio would legalize commercial production and distribution as well as possession. "Our internal polling has definitely shown that there's very strong support for full legalization," says Responsible Ohio spokeswoman Lydia Bolander, "and we're confident that that number's only going to continue to grow between now and November." Unlike in Florida, a simple majority is enough to approve constitutional amendments in Ohio.

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89 responses to “Poll Finds Majority Support for Legal Marijuana in Three Swing States

  1. Well, until people start saying that people should be allowed to produce large amounts for commercial purposes, they are still being little tyrants. But this is encouraging.

  2. Am I banned from commenting or something?

  3. Hmmm. Ok. I’ll try one more time. I think it’s not going to pass in Ohio. It would with media support but the media licks the states boot and the state is going to be all out trying to defeat it, led by AG Mike DeWine, otherwise known as The Dick.

    1. Hmmm. 3 refreshes to post. I thought for sure it was going to post 3 times

    2. It would also help if the bill wasn’t geared to enrich a few connected people, and was actually going to legalize the chronic. As a firm supporter of potheads everywhere I would still vote against the current bill, it’s way too crony-ific.

      1. Yeah, they did the same thing wit the casinos. I agree to some extent but considering the statist quo so to speak, I will vote for it.

      2. Why do you hate rent seekers? If a few well-connected people can’t monopolize commercial marijuana production and sales then why make it legal at all?

        1. Hate is a very strong word, I don’t hate anyone. Rent seekers, especially those that would have their neighbors locked up in rape cages and/or shot down in the streets just so they can make a metric fuck-ton of money, do fill me with such unfathomable disgust that I can see how you might mistake my feelings hatred.

      3. “As a firm supporter of potheads everywhere I would still vote against the current bill, it’s way too crony-ific.”

        Without knowing the details, I imagine that the Ohio proposal would reduce the number of people going to prison for pot. It won’t bring about pot-topia, but fewer people will have their lives and careers damaged.

        So why not vote for it, and then call for further reforms?

        1. I mean, in a restaurant you can in theory send an undercooked steak back to the kitchen for reheating, but if you send back a legal initiative, there’s no guarantee they’ll bring it back in a more acceptable form.

          1. And your steak may come back with a little extra seasoning, as we discovered in an earlier thread…

        2. That’s a fair cop, perfect vs good and whatnot. I get that, I suppose it’s that I’ve been told to compromise my principles for some greater good so many times without any of those greater goods actually happening (or happening at a snails pace) that I’m now permanently stuck on “Fuck off slaver!”

          1. That’s a fair cop

            There are NO fair cops.

        3. I imagine that the Ohio proposal would reduce the number of people going to prison for pot. It won’t bring about pot-topia, but fewer people will have their lives and careers damaged.

          Which could lead to the pressure for reform being relieved. It’s plausible that we only get one shot at doing the economic portion of reform, by doing it all at once connected to the social reform. Too many people are hostile to economic freedom for that to get its own discussion/law/proposition later on. Look at alcohol- some 80 years after prohibition was lifted we’re still stuck with some pretty non-sensical economic regulations, but as long as everyone can get a drink there’s little pressure for further reform.

          I’m pretty cynical and bitter about this thanks to California’s experience with prop 19. The bootlegger part of the baptists and bootleggers tried to scare people with the OMG LARGE CORPORATIONS WILL RUIN WEED. They simply don’t care about economic freedom, and will have no interest in discussing it once kids don’t get their lives ruined for pot.

          1. Not to mention that the cronyism emplaces (and funds) a SIG that has strong incentive to prevent further liberalization.

            1. That’s very true and in fact this deal is as bad if not worse than the casino deal. But the way I see it is that once they end prohibition, that dog is not getting walked back. So future discussions about ending the cronyism no longer have the legalization issue as part of it which is the hardest part. The state is left having to justify the unjustifiable. They may be able to drag it out and will no doubt limit licensing as they do with other things no matter what. But at some point it becomes obvious who the politicians are really representing, and while you can get away with that on a national stage seemingly forever, that’s a tougher rope to walk as the politics become more local. I’m voting to end prohibition and we can go from there.

              1. Wasn’t that long ago I could only buy liqueur at state stores in Ohio. Now I can buy it at the grocery store. Yeah, the sate is still involved with price controls and still limits some consumer choices but they had a monopoly and they gave it up.

              2. Sure, and the bottom line is that fewer people go to prison over a plant that grows in the dirt.

                In this fallen world (oops, I tipped my hand there), you seek one small victory after another, while simultaneously trying to avoid slipping backward. That’s not surrendering your principles, it’s moving in the direction you want to go.

                1. “Look at alcohol- some 80 years after prohibition was lifted we’re still stuck with some pretty non-sensical economic regulations, but as long as everyone can get a drink there’s little pressure for further reform.”

                  Yeah, and that’s an improvement over having cops swarm into bars smashing beer kegs, and bootleggers exploiting a black market to sell Lord knows what poisonous crap to the drinking public.

                  Not to mention providing Joe Kennedy and his offspring with the financial base to launch their careers.

                  1. Not to mention providing Joe Kennedy and his offspring with the financial base to launch their careers.

                    Did you know this applies to the Reverend Jerry Falwell, also? Specifically, his father. I found that interesting.

                  2. “…bootleggers exploiting a black market to sell Lord knows what poisonous crap to the drinking public.”

                    Most of the crap was poisoned intentionally by order of the federal government:

                    http://www.slate.com/articles/…..s_war.html

                2. Yes, and it’s not like ultimate victory is at hand and we’re snatching defeat out of the hands of victory. This may not even pass.

  4. Is anyone else having major issues commenting? I thought it was my phone but now on my desktop.

    1. Judging by the number of posts over the last hour, I’m guessing everyone.

  5. Are the squirrels gone now?

    These are probably 3 really bad states to put up a ballot in for legalization of recreational cannabis.

    Ohio might have a chance, but I doubt it. FL or PA? Forget about it.

    1. Hopefully the squirrels are off burning one.

      Yeah, I don’t see it happening in PA, I mean we still have state owned booze stores and arcane rules about buying a six pack.

    2. Like I say above, once the ruling class in Ohio start with the anti-pot campaign it will die.

  6. That’ll be the Dems ticket to ride.

  7. 65% of survey respondents think polls are useless.

    1. Can you break that down to just millennial respondents please?

      1. They’re the only ones who respond to polls so 65%

  8. There you go Warty. Reason is coming to Ohio.

  9. Wait a second. Florida just turned down medical marijuana in November. I really doubt opinion has swung that much in 5 months.

    1. Yeah, but it needed a supermajority. The ballot measure got over 57% of the vote.

      1. Which is more than Obama got, IIRC.

      2. Actually very few things get 57%. Also the dem turnout was pretty low. Of course that implies this is quite the bipartisan issue. With that said I believe it will pass in 2016

    2. The number of people who respond to polls and the number of people who vote are not the same.

    3. This poll says otherwise:

      Poll: 84% support medical marijuana in Florida

      And 55% for recreational use.

      1. Damn it, that’s what I get for skimming the article.

    4. If you go into the PDF of the survey, you’ll find that they note they surveyed “1,087 Florida voters with a margin of error of +/- 3 percent”. Running that along with the population of Florida (~19M) through a sample size calculator yields a confidence level of 95% with a confidence interval of 3.04 (or a confidence level of 99% with a confidence interval of 4.01).

      That means there is a 5% probability that less than 81% or more than 87% of Floridians support medical marijuana.

  10. Either a bunch of old people just got a glaucoma diagnosis. Or polls are basically useless.

    1. The poll formatting confused them!

  11. testing the squirrels

  12. In Florida and Ohio, 84 percent of respondents said adults should be allowed to “use marijuana for medical purposes if their doctor prescribes it,” as did 88 percent of Pennsylvanians.

    So, if their doctor does not prescribe it, adults should be restricted to recreational use of marijuana?

  13. It was a really banner day for the American left.

    First, Amanda Marcotte says you’re rape deniers.

    Then Sally Kohn says the government isn’t forcing you to do anything because:

    This issue of government force is a funny one. You could also argue that the government is forcing you to drive below the speed limit or wear a seatbelt in your car. But it’s not. There isn’t a police officer holding a gun to your head literally forcing you to buckle up. In fact, you are 100 percent free to speed and not wear your seatbelt?and simply deal with the consequences if you’re pulled over. Is the threat of the fine for breaking the law amount to “forcing” you to follow the law? No.

    Of course, this logic also applies to someone putting a gun to your head and saying ‘do what I say.’ After all, you could just not do what he says and accept the consequences of being shot. By Kohn’s logic, that doesn’t equate to the use of force.

    We also had some brilliance from both Jessica Valenti and ESB on the subject of Rolling Stone.

    I can’t remember a day when we had this much crazy from this many people.

    1. ESB has a foul mouth for a cute li’l Christian gal.

      1. Sounds like fap material for someone here who has an ESB…uh, fascination.

        I mean, she even wrote the phrase “jack off on it”, she’s practically grabbing Irish’s hand and forcing him to abuse himself.

        1. Hey, I’m on record as saying I’m not attracted to ESB. Crusty Juggler’s the one who won’t stop talking about how cute he thinks she is.

          1. I’m also on record saying the same. She’s a completely adorable little monster.

            1. If I had to choose one crazy leftist whose insane views I’d absolutely be able to overlook due to their looks, it would be a young Ana Marie Cox, seen in that picture with her hot brunette friend.

              Hell, I’m still kind of attracted to Ana Marie Cox, even though she’s a little old for me.

              By which I mean she’s very old for me. I guess you can rob the cradle with ESB and I’ll rob the grave with Ana Marie Cox.

              1. I have zero difficulty separating physical attraction from mental attraction, so I can easily find ESB to be a cutie while knowing that she’s a horrible person. Same for Cox, though her weathered alcoholic Mick look isn’t my favorite. Obviously it would be very familiar to you, seeing as, well…your mom and all.

                But tattoos…get the fuck out. Now.

                1. Mmmmm…weathered alcoholic Mick.

                  Elizabeth Stoker Breunig (despite her talking about jacking off in the tweet up above) is still a very hardcore Catholic. If you were with her, I imagine she’d spend enormous amounts of time boring you to tears with periodic dissertations from the Book of Job or the Communist Manifesto.

                  Ana Marie Cox, meanwhile, appears to have no discernible morals, political philosophy, or actual belief system. Sure she claims to be a liberal, but as far as I can tell she’s only a liberal because she enjoys anal sex and vodka and thinks the Republicans would frown on that lifestyle. She says she’s a Christian but admits she doesn’t know a goddamn thing about the actual Bible, so she’s probably a ‘Christian’ in the way that someone who sometimes gets drunk in the woods is a Druid.

                  ESB is all rosaries and Catholic guilt. Ana Marie Cox is stale cigarettes, the smell of old scotch, and periodic bouts of alcoholic self-loathing.

                  Ana Marie Cox just seems fun.

                  1. Oh Irish, that’s where the fun is. Showing her how stupid and pointless all that crap is. Being the bad influence. Cox is already there, and in a somewhat boring manner too.

                    Though admittedly Cox’s companion in that picture is fucking hot.

                  2. “ESB is all rosaries and Catholic guilt.”

                    Irish, stop, you’re getting me all excited!

                  3. ESB has only been a Catholic for ONE YEAR!

          2. My apologies for getting you two confused. Don’t sue me for defamation, please.

            I was going to say I like your choice of tolerable leftist but then I realized you didn’t mean that incredibly gorgeous woman in the white top.

            1. I meant her too. As I said:

              If I had to choose one crazy leftist whose insane views I’d absolutely be able to overlook due to their looks, it would be a young Ana Marie Cox, seen in that picture with her hot brunette friend.

              1. She was always pretty sexy. She was married to a total douch bag then.

    2. deal with the consequences

      Which of course would be a law enforcement officer with a fucking gun you stupid bitch.

      1. Maybe she means the chances of getting caught are slim.

    3. So I guess Kohn would be okay with banning abortion as long as women who were convicted of getting them were only fined

    4. Of course leftists have to rationalize that what they’re doing isn’t being implemented via force. They would then have to confront their cognitive dissonance.

  14. OT: here comes the UVA lawsuit. Good for them

    http://hotair.com/archives/201…..ing-stone/

    1. Well this should be entertaining, watching the fans swarm the field to get to the other TEAM’s sideline: Red now supporting litigation and Blue screaming “frivolous”!

      1. I think team blue is gonna have to draft deep to put a defensive front on this one. This might be an indication of peek derp

  15. Today’s deep-dish pizza news:

    “Fox News anchor Chris Wallace has offered an official apology to Kelly Clarkson after saying she needs to “stay off the deep dish pizza for awhile.””

    http://tasteofcountry.com/kell…..ck=tsmclip

    1. Ya but everyone keeps ignoring the elephant in the room….

      Would she be willing to serve that deep dish pizza at a gay wedding?

  16. And courtesy of the New Republic, your dosage of Civil War red meat:

    “This week provides an occasion for the U.S. government to get real about history, as April 9 is the 150th anniversary of the Union’s victory in the Civil War….And to mark the occasion, the federal government should make two modest changes: It should make April 9 a federal holiday; and it should commit to disavowing or renaming monuments to the Confederacy, and its leaders, that receive direct federal support.

    “Yes, the South surrendered. The states ratified the 13th Amendment. The Union survived. These facts couldn’t be altered. But memorializing the rebellion as a tragedy of circumstance, or a bravely fought battle of principle?those narratives were adopted in part for the unspoken purpose of making the reunion stick….

    1. “…The federal government…can refuse to participate in the celebration. It could rename these 10 army installations after Union fighters. It could remove monuments to the Confederacy (as opposed to museums and landmarks) from the National Register of Historic Places, and disclaim any obligation to finance their maintenance. It could stop producing headstones for Confederate graves…It could remove the Confederate Memorial at Arlington National Cemetery and place it in the custody of the Smithsonian?or at least end the spectacle of the president of the United States bestowing it with a wreath every Memorial Day. We aren’t being polite to anyone worthy of politeness, or advancing any noble end, by continuing to honor traitors in this way….

      “…You don’t need to be morally pristine to be immortalized in Obama’s America, but you can’t be on the side of forces that reject the establishment altogether when it advances incrementally toward its founding ideals. Likewise, those who would caution that a more accurate reckoning with the Confederacy would inflame racial tensions are merely restating the implication that the country is too weak to be introspective. If Obama’s expression of American exceptionalism is correct about anything, it’s that this kind of thinking has no merit.”

      http://www.newrepublic.com/art…..be-holiday

      1. Yeah. It historians always kind to Democratic Administrations. Why would Jef Davis’s be any different

        1. Culture wariooooooors…come out to play-ay-ay!

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwwY9y6O3hw

    2. I’m all for making everyday a federal holiday if that means the federal government never does anything.

    3. Wouldn’t they be better forgetting this 4/9 biz, and saying all those memorials & battlefields were where the Americans fought the British, or the Mexicans, or the French, or somebody else foreign? Maybe the Indians?East Indians, I mean.

  17. http://m.washingtonexaminer.co…..le/2562575

    The Libertarian Moment may be faltering for one of the holy trinity of Mexicans Pot and ass sex. Things are looking up for pot fueled government sanctioned ass sex but not so much for the Mexican variety.

    1. Meh, I don’t put much stock in opinion polls.

      But I wouldn’t the gay marriage chickens before they hatched either. Most people act like it’s a fait accompli. Trying to predict how the SC will rule is generally a fools errand. But I’ll say this. As you have pointed out, many/most federal judges decide on the ruling they want to make and then rationalize a legal excuse for it. But, being that these judges live in a bubble , they’re completely unaware of how their dictates work in the real world. The last week or so may have shown them how their ruling could play out( thinking mostly of the RFRA shit storm).

      1. Open borders have never been popular. Basically the political clad has told the voters to go fuck themselves on the issue. There may finally about to be a reckoning for that

        1. Oh I agree.I just think a poll is dubious proof of anything in and of itself. You can engineer it to give evidence for just about any position you want.

  18. The black Dan Quayle is here to tell us about how that evul Satanic music is poisoning the minds of the youth!

    You know how this guy is a joke? He says absolutely nothing about mutual aid societies while stating ‘We need to reestablish faith in our communities and the values and principles that got us through slavery, that got us through Jim Crow, and segregation, and all kinds of horrible things that were heaped upon us.’

    ‘Why were we able to get through those? Because of our faith, because of our family, because of our values, and as we allow the hip-hop community to destroy those things for us, and as we grasp onto what’s politically correct and not what is correct, we continue to deteriorate,’ he continued.

    Notice the two telling omissions: the Drug War, and State-nurtured dependency. These three things are nothing compared to the scourge of Lil Wayne and Nicki Minaj!

    The youngsters’ music has always pushed the bounds of hedonism, yes? This guy acts like it’s a new revelation.

    1. I got some kind of malware warning when I tried to go to the story. Did anyone else?

      1. My apologies, an unnecessary ‘s’. Succinctly, Sugarfreed.

        Here you go.

        1. “the black Dan Quayle”

          You mean the black equivalent of the guy of whom the Atlantic said, “Dan Quayle Was Right”?

          “The social-science evidence is in: though it may benefit the adults involved, the dissolution of intact two-parent families is harmful to large numbers of children. Moreover, the author argues, family diversity in the form of increasing numbers of single-parent and stepparent families does not strengthen the social fabric but, rather, dramatically weakens and undermines society”

          http://www.theatlantic.com/mag…..ht/307015/

          1. Actually, I meant the black equivalent of the guy who claimed that rap music made people violent and made them want to kill police.

            I’d have to be a fool to argue that having two parents isn’t better than having only one. Anyway, I guess it doesn’t matter since the “social science is in” (I’ve never been one to put much stock in fields that require “science” in their name. Except for Materials Science, of course.)

            1. Dr. Carson’s critique is aimed at “the hip-hop community,” which seems to take in more than just their music, but goes to the values getting taught today in not just the African-American, but other communities: Don’t accept “dead end jobs,” the Man is out to get you, adopt and angry and confrontational attitude, you know, the habits of mind that help people rise out of poverty in America (/sarc).

              1. He’s just repeating stuff we’ve heard from Bill Cosby over the years about the “hip-hop culture” and with the same glaring blind spots.

                I read in Carson’s book about how he grew up in the ‘hood. I can relate. For him to forego any mention of flawed government policy regarding drugs appears as either an oversight or his bias at work. I suspect it’s the latter.

                I can get behind encouraging an attitude change. But let’s keep it real.

  19. “Although voter approval of medical marijuana looks like a sure thing, that is not necessarily the case. Quinnipiac surveys put Florida voters’ support for medical marijuana above 80 percent in 2013 and 2014. But in November a ballot initiative that would have legalized medical use fell two points short of the 60 percent supermajority required for a constitutional amendment.”

    A sales tax passed overwhelmingly in Pointe Coupee Parish a few years ago. I think they have the highest in the state now. One of the residents was complaining about it and couldn’t understand why anyone voted for it.

    I asked her “Go around and ask them if you can find them. I dare you to find anyone who voted for it.”

    She shut up, but I could hear the wheels in her head burning up the bearings.

  20. It reminds me of the slow spread of “Must Issue” and “Open Carry”, and those who oppose legalizing pot are making the same mistakes that the opponents of Second Amendment Rights did. They are keeping up a drumbeat of scare stories?not realizing that when most of those consequences they portray as inevitable don’t eventuate, they are undermining themselves.

    One can argue that most of the drop in violent crime is aging populations, not widespread gun ownership. What you CAN’T argue is that increased gun ownership has caused blood to run in the streets. It hasn’t. The anti-gun folks predicted Quentin Tarantino-ish violence, and got bupkis.

    The Pot Prohibitionists are predicting armageddon, and so far they aren’t getting it.

    I’m making popcorn.

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