New at Reason
Jacob Sullum welcomes the FDA to the brave new world of tobacco regulation, and wonders what it'll mean for smokers.
Comments to "New at Reason":
FDA? I'm surprised they haven't handed over tobacco regulation to the DEA. In a few years, maybe.
Dr. Freud | April 9, 2008, 7:52am | #
Highly problematic... How could a medicine regulation agency in good conscience give its seal of approval to tobacco products ? You might as well have the FDA regulate Fruit Loops and Doritos.Michael Pack | April 9, 2008, 7:56am | #
Looks like another black market is on it's way.Regulating what one put in their body never works.Those who fail to learn from history.....Mike | April 9, 2008, 8:42am | #
JLM,I think it just applies to cigarettes, but I know what you're thinking, if it applied to cigars this would put Acid cigars out of business.
I'm sure that cigars will be next on the hitlist.
David | April 9, 2008, 8:43am | #
The Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act.It plays on the fear of "My opponent doesn't care about your children's health. He even voted against The Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act." ads.
Daniel Reeves | April 9, 2008, 8:44am | #
It was bad enough to treat smoking as evil. Apparently, now smokers are.Episiarch | April 9, 2008, 8:55am | #
Looks like another black market is on it's way.Indisputably. I'm sure the politicians know this, but this legislation is a two-fer: they please the anti-smoking fascists and Philip Morris at the same time. Plus, it says "Family"! There's no down side here (for them).
ed | April 9, 2008, 9:05am | #
Are Indian "nations" exempt? Ironically, they may become America's last outposts of freedom.If we can keep 'em off the firewater long enough.
Michael Pack | April 9, 2008, 9:15am | #
The most enjoyable evenings I've had are sitting on my deck,smoking a Cohiba,drinking a Sam Adams stout.Sometimes the cigar was Cuban,smuggled in by a friend.I must be the most evil man on the planet.ed | April 9, 2008, 9:23am | #
Aren't they [Indians] exempt on almost everything by default?If they are, how do I join up?
I'll bet I can locate that 1/64 blood sample somewhere.
Plus, I can hold my liquor. I'll be Chief in no time.
Tax-free everything! For everyone!
Elemenope | April 9, 2008, 9:28am | #
Aren't they exempt on almost everything by default?The local Narragansetts certainly thought so, until a few years ago the governor sent in the Rhode Island staties to bust up their tax-free tobacco party. And while it was a PR disaster for the state ("look at the poor defenseless non-violent indians being beaten by the racist cops!"), IIRC the tribe still lost in court.
If I'm not mistaken, it was because they were selling their product to whitey.
Episiarch | April 9, 2008, 9:45am | #
I suppose it depends on the state. Technically the states have zero power over the tribes (once federally recognized) but it never works out that way. Connecticut demanded a hell of a lot of tribute in order for the Mohegans and Pequots to open their money factories...I mean casinos. I don't recall how exactly the state was standing in their way but they were.Now, the Navajo reservation that's bigger than Connecticut and spans more than one state--they can probably get away with a lot more.
I buy my smokes from the Senecas in New York, and they seem to be doing a pretty good job of keeping the states off their back.
the innominate one | April 9, 2008, 9:47am | #
I'd just like to say to the members of Congress that voted in favor of this, and that will vote in favor of this in the future:fuck you, you fucking fucks.
LarryA | April 9, 2008, 10:18am | #
The most enjoyable evenings I've had are sitting on my deck, smoking a Cohiba, drinking a Sam Adams stout. Sometimes the cigar was Cuban, smuggled in by a friend. I must be the most evil man on the planet.Not unless you do it after a trip to the shooting range. Colorado’s Independence Institute has ATF parties fairly often.
Jacob Sullum welcomes the FDA to the brave new world of tobacco regulation, and wonders what it'll mean for smokers.
This is just like the anti-gun folks wanting firearms to be regulated by the Consumer Products Safety Commission. “What? It shoots bullets? That can’t be safe!”
I confidently predict that when cops start getting killed by cigarette smugglers (oh yes, it will happen), it will be blamed on the addictive qualities of nicotine.
Michael Pack | April 9, 2008, 10:36am | #
LarryA,I'm a duck hunter and live in the country.I shoot clays in my back yard.Closer to the beer fridge when your done, don't you you know.Ramsey | April 9, 2008, 11:13am | #
Does this mean that I will no longer be able to buy snus? The science shows a slight elevation in heart disease but no cancer risk. It is a safer tobacco alternative.So, congress is killing people rather than let them get a buzz, par for the course.
Citizen Nothing | April 9, 2008, 11:31am | #
Here's some drama, involving tobacco money, currently happening between the state government here in Ohio and the anti-smoking forceswonders what it'll mean for smokers. | April 9, 2008, 11:37am | #
Maybe they should organize a Million Fag March as well?PM stockholder | April 9, 2008, 11:42am | #
GO MO!!R C Dean | April 9, 2008, 11:43am | #
I'm sure that cigars will be next on the hitlist.I see that coming, too. Good thing I live less than two hours from Mexico; I predict a booming trade in tobacco just over the Rio Grande if this keeps up.
Charles Hueter | April 9, 2008, 12:57pm | #
Looks like another black market is on it's way.Check the "findings" of the bill: (35) Tobacco products have been used to facilitate and finance criminal activities both domestically and internationally. Illicit trade of tobacco products has been linked to organized crime and terrorist groups.
They bitch about the black market while taking steps to expand it!
Rhywun | April 9, 2008, 1:12pm | #
I'm sure that cigars will be next on the hitlist.Not on your life. What do you think they're smoking in those smoke-filled back rooms?
JLE | April 9, 2008, 1:50pm | #
More money at the price of freedom? Again? Who lobbies for personal rights?Gene Trosper | April 9, 2008, 4:32pm | #
This is absolutely new to me, as I have never even heard of this proposed ban. Interestingly, there has been a huge rise in hookah lounges the past few years and they specialize in flavored tobacco. I wonder how this will affect those establishments? The goths should be hurting as well, since cloves are HUGE among the gothic community.LarryA | April 9, 2008, 7:10pm | #
Not on your life. What do you think they're smoking in those smoke-filled back rooms?What effect does the fact that congresscritters use something have on their propensity to ban it for the peons?
Rhywun | April 10, 2008, 5:25am | #
cloves are HUGE among the gothic communityThey're usually imported from Indonesia. I suppose a nice big fat tariff will fix that.
economist | April 10, 2008, 2:21pm | #
I used to think I was part Cherokee, but now I know I'm not. Indians are supposed to like tobacco, but for me it's only so-so.Memsys | April 10, 2008, 2:29pm | #
Our government is fundamentally broken and cannot be fixed by rational discourse. So in an effort to communicate we should get blind stinking drunk first, at least we would all be on the same level then.