Nick Gillespie Talks Performance-Enhancing Drugs, Lance Armstrong on Stossel Tonight!

Tune into John Stossel's eponymous Fox Business show tonight for a pre-Super Bowl special titled, Big Sports...Big Business. If you're into sports at all - especially the particularly awesome and awful form of vassalage known as college sports - you're in for a real treat.

I'll be talking with Stossel about performance-enhancing drugs and whether they should be treated as categorically different from other forms of potentional advantage. And whether it's more dangerous to take steroids or slam your body into heavily armored 300-lb. men or fly down a mountainside clad mostly in Lycra. And I recommend the performance-enhancing drug that Congress ought to popping (it sure ain't Viagra).

Here's the rundown of the show, which airs tonight onf Fox Business at 9pm ET and will be rebroadcast at various times over the next few days.

Super Bowl Sunday is the biggest gambling day of the year. Have you placed your bets? Be careful, even friendly bets between friends are illegal in about half the states.

Former professional poker player, Annie Duke, joins the show to argue that it's not the government's job to police decisions between consenting adults. Patrick Basham, author of Gambling: A Healthy Bet, says gambling is actually good for you.

Big money is made in college sports, but the athletes don't get a cut. Dr. Boyce Watkins, Syracuse University Professor, says they should.

Lance Armstrong is an evil jerk because he bullied and threatened weaker people, not because he used performance enhancing drugs. I say, if he used performance enhancers, so what? These drugs are similar to Lasik eye surgery and other ways people seek competitive advantages. Reason's Nick Gillespie argues that they make sports more interesting.

Politicians like Chuck Schumer want to ban ticket scalping. Many Americans agree with him. But economist, JC Bradbury, says scalpers receive a bad rap for providing a service that people actually want.

One of my favorite sports, MMA....is illegal in my own state! UFC Chief Operating Officer, Lawrence Epstein, talks about his battles with New York politicians.

Finally, the owner of the Dallas Mavericks, billionaire Mark Cuban, plays with this thought experiment: what if government ran sports?

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  • The Late P Brooks||

    Finally, the owner of the Dallas Mavericks, billionaire Mark Cuban, plays with this thought experiment: what if government ran sports?

    Paging Diana Moon Glompers!

  • AlmightyJB||

    "what if government ran sports?"

    Than all sorts would be like college football. No playoffs and everyone gets screwed as much as possible.

  • Sevo||

    ..."pre-Super Bowl special titled, Big Sports...Big Business."...

    'Spose everyone has by now noticed that "Super Bowl" is copy-righted and usable only by paying the fee the NFL demands.
    I don't have a bit of problem with that, but it's amusing watching ads to see which ones have towed the lion and which euphemize their way through it with reference to the 'big game' or 'game day' or some such.
    Wife just noticed Honda decided to spend their ad budget on production; their current ad refers to the 'big game'.

  • Xenocles||

    Fair use, bitches!

  • Sevo||

    Yeah, and you don't cover the legal fees when the NFL comes calling.
    I really don't care. It is the NFL's unofficial holiday; they made it, so I have a hard time griping about them keeping it.

  • C. S. P. Schofield||

    Also, the way things are legally, if they don't defend it, they lose it.

  • Bam!||

  • ||

    You must be new.

    Welcome.

  • ||

    Its "Toe the Lion"

    You must be new.

  • ||

    Actually, it's "tow the lion."

  • AlmightyJB||

    Thank you, Do people not have any sense whatsoever?

  • General Butt Naked||

    It's Tow the Blue Lion, motherfucker.

    That damn lion wrote the constitution!

  • Archduke Pantsfan||

    WHA?

    My monocle nearly fell off reading this.

  • ||

    It's monocles all the way down.

  • ||

    I have my manservant collect fallen monocles in my Top Hat, especially the tortoise shell ones (see what I did there?) You can never have too many monocles! Waste not, want not...

  • Archduke Pantsfan||

    I have my manservant collect the monocles while I sleep, and hands them to the page to clean before I awaken, so I can choose which monocle to wear.

  • LTC(ret) John||

    Page? Have you not a groom or a batman? Zounds, what people have for servants these days....tsk.

  • Restoras||

    What, what happened to the footmen and under-butlers?

  • R C Dean||

    Pish tosh, gentlemen, if you aren't having your monocles polished on the thighs of virgins, you are no more than a parvenu.

  • Paul.||

    Welcome to Hit & Run, Bam!

    You've just been introduced to Meme 1 of Hit & Run discourse. 6,945 to go! If you read here often, you'll have most of them down by Biden's second term.

  • Archduke Pantsfan||

    STOP TALKING SHIT ABOUT THE AMERICAN ELECTORATE

    oh wait, they deserve it.

  • Sevo||

    Isn't that MMMMMMXCIVV?
    Just asking...,.

  • Sevo||

    If you haven't been beat up enough, I'm not gonna add to it. By now, you've likely got it that "tow the lion" is forum jargon. I hope.

  • RyanXXX||

    Maybe he was being ironical, and refused to tow the H&R lion by saying "tow the lion"

  • LTC(ret) John||

    Double meta-irony? Woah, mind. blown.

  • brec||

    "Super Bowl" is not something that could be copyrighted. Conceivably it could be trademarked, but I don't see any evidence of that at the Super Bowl web site.

  • brec||

    I seemed to have screwed up the link:
    http://www.nfl.com/superbowl/47

  • Sevo||

    OK, I got "tow the lion", and I missed the legal protection for the words "Super Bowl".
    Head bowed, weeping....

  • ||

    TO THE SLAVE PENS WITH YOU!!!

  • Sevo||

    NO! NO! Not the SLAVE PENS!
    How about the harem, huh? Just asking...

  • ||

    Well, the harem is comprised of Brits, since they are notably submissive and compliant...

    I hope your dentition standards aren't high.

  • Archduke Pantsfan||

    North England, to be precise.
    Mainly Leeds.

  • Sevo||

    Oh, well...
    Slave pen, please.

  • R C Dean||

    Your harem still has its teeth?

    Brave man.

  • Ted S.||

    Trademarked, not copyrighted.

  • Death Rock and Skull||

    KEEP DOPE ALIVE!

  • Mr Whipple||

    The only problem I have with performance enhancing drugs is they turn women into lesbians. Just ask Sheryl Crow.

  • JeremyR||

    If she is a lesbian, well, good riddance

  • Mr Whipple||

    I'd hit that.

  • ||

    Hopefully with a shovel.

    And you too for flagrant YooToob abuse.-)))

  • Restoras||

    Catchy tune.

  • Archduke Pantsfan||

    Just ask Sheryl Crow.

    Neigh

  • ||

    I'm not sure who deserves more, if any sympathy here: Her for sleeping with him, or him for sleeping with her.

    I can see why either scenario gives her a long face, and it doesn't behoove you to point it out, Archduchy.-)))

  • Archduke Pantsfan||

    How are you this evening/morning my expatriate medical expert?
    It is bone-cracking cold here this week.

  • ||

    Privet! Meh. Just woke up a couple of hours ago, and it's brisk here, but not Canuckistani cold,~0C.

    Make sure and use your block warmer so your car doesn't laugh at you (or cry).-)

  • Archduke Pantsfan||

    There are over 1000 car fires a year started by faulty block heater cables and bad extension cords!

  • ||

    Clearly, those need to be banned as thermally enhancing devices (I suspect user error accounts for most of those fires)!!one!Smoke's Poutine!!11!

  • Sevo||

    Hey, at least they're WARM!

  • ||

    My block warmer shit the bed this AM. The plug fused into the extension. Took both me and my wife to pull them apart. I'm guessing that's bad.

    Oddly, didn't trip a circuit breaker.

  • ||

    The plug fused into the extension. Took both me and my wife to pull them apart. I'm guessing that's bad.

    Be careful, my friend. If you are going to get fried, do it in safer manner. I have it on good authority that electrocution is a terrible way to get high.

    Oddly, didn't trip a circuit breaker.

    Huh. That's weird. If any type of energy surge should have tripped the CB, that's it.

  • Archduke Pantsfan||

    I went 2 whole years with a block heater cable that didn't function.
    I found out it wasn't working the morning it was -36 and the car wouldn't start - from a garage.

  • ||

    Is that F or C (I assume C)? Either way, that's pretty fucking cold!

  • Archduke Pantsfan||

    Yes

  • ||

    Pretty close either way.

    -40C = -40F

  • ||

    FdA, I am upset with you for not correcting my "...terrible way to get high," with "...terrible way to catch a buzz."

    First, your childish belief in a movie that doesn't exist, and now missing a chance to correct me. That was a gimme!

    Disgraceful!

  • ||

    On my second tall bourbon. A little slow tonight. My apologies.

    *hangs head in disgrace*

  • ||

    TO THE HAREM WITH YOU!!!

    Oops, gotta run. Later, gents.

  • SIV||

  • Almanian.||

    I just don't care.

  • Gladstone||

    You know who else liked to use performance enhancing drugs except when they didn't?

    Also still no Jim Nabors? I am teh dissappoint.

  • ||

    Ahhrnold?

  • Paul.||

    Bill Clinton?

  • ||

    Ron Jeremy?

  • ||

    Pretty much any funny stand-up comic?

  • Death Rock and Skull||

    The amount of working out and dieting and shit athletes do to accomplish specific tasks isn't necessarily "natural" or always healthy compared with not doing those things. In many cases it actually produces freakish results, just as much so as "performance enhancing drugs". So I don't give a shit about doping, or what people need to do for their goals.

  • T o n i||

    We should get rid of the real performance enhancing drugs: White privilege. Racists must have power and blacks by definition do not have power so they can't be racist. So Obama is unprivileged while Kelly Thomas is privileged.

  • Death Rock and Skull||

    By definition. Good one. That piece of shit always types "by definition" like it means something.

  • Paul.||

    The real T o n y lives in a gated community.

  • ||

    Actually, assuming this is the "real" Tony (I'm not 100% sure either way), he lives in a very palatial and exclusive high rise.

  • R C Dean||

    I assume you mean his mother locks the basement door from the outside, Paul.

  • John||

    I can't for the life of me understand why anyone cares that Armstrong took PEDs in cycling, a sport where PEDs have been almost standard since the beginning. It is not cheating if everyone else is doing the same thing.

  • Archduke Pantsfan||

    I can't for the life of me understand why anyone cares that Armstrong took PEDs in cycling, a sport where PEDs have been almost standard since the beginning. It is not cheating if everyone else is doing the same thing.

    FTFY

  • John||

    About anything? That is a bit nihilistic. But whatever works for you there AP.

  • Archduke Pantsfan||

    see Almanian @ 8:57

  • John||

    The only sport I care about PEDs in is baseball. And that is just because it throws the sport out of whack. I never dug the long ball, at least not in the numbers it was done in the 1990s.

  • Death Rock and Skull||

    Just make the fields bigger. It would be more impressive if they have to run farther and faster as the outfield area increases.

  • Archduke Pantsfan||

    And make the NBA nets higher.

  • ||

    And double the size of the court.

  • ||

    Unlike the snide remarks here seem to suggest, making the field bigger is logical and perfectly consistent with the history of the game. Fields have always been of various non-standard sizes (unlike basketball courts and nets). Hell, the Polo Grounds were huge.

    For a recent example where the playing field dimensions were changed to adjust to changes in the athletes see golf: circa 1997 and the Tiger-proofing of Augusta National.

  • Paul.||

    And turn the amps up to 11.

  • ||

    They don't care. There are just a lot of people who hate Armstrong and any opportunity to pull him down will be taken. The French/Europeans hate him for constantly winning what is considered a quintessentially European competition; other cyclists hate him for winning; the various anti-doping agencies hate him for evading them for so long; and TEAM BLUE sort of knows they are supposed to hate him because he's friends with Bush and they therefore assume he's TEAM RED (I have no idea if he is or not). It's just another example of a figure who has climbed so high but attracted so much negative attention on the way that you knew they were eventually going to be brought down, because there were so many people trying to make it happen.

    Me, I don't care, and let athletes do whatever the fuck they want with their bodies.

  • Death Rock and Skull||

    He is a kind of genius for being able to get so many people pissed off, whether it was his intention or not.

  • ||

    Well, no he's not. If he had done his PR better, maybe he wouldn't have attracted the critical mass of hate for him that politicians and bureaucrats notice because they think they can advance their careers if they take him down. Many celebrities just spout the shit that TEAM BLUE wants to hear because TEAM BLUE is easy; all you do is say the right words and then actually go do whatever the fuck you want. And he tried to do that with Livestrong but it wasn't enough. And he decided to "apologize" too late. I totally understand holding out and going "fuck you", but then why apologize after you're clearly fucked? I don't get it. You already are taking the hit, why grovel about it?

  • Death Rock and Skull||

    He has pulled off what amounts to an awesome prank, and people who give a shit are the marks. It is a somewhat extreme exposure of the absurdity of pop culture and whatever it is people believe in. He is kind of like Michael Jackson but better.

  • Death Rock and Skull||

    I'm not saying he didn't handle this stupidly for himself. That's not what I'm commenting on.

  • Archduke Pantsfan||

    It's not hard to piss off the french

  • ||

    Just breathing air The Frogs or those Quebbies breathe makes them haughty.

  • General Butt Naked||

    I think somebody's on TEAM "I LOVE LANCE LEAVE HIM ALONE!" *sobs*.

    I haven't seen episiarch spill this much digital ink since the Pizza Wars of aught eight.

  • John||

    The word now is that there is a new growth hormone out there that is undetectable. Take one look at NFL players today and it is obvious nearly everyone is usable. The difference between the size of players between the 60s and the 80s could mostly be explained by advances in weight training. But training methods haven't changed that much in the last 20 years. It is not so much that they are bigger, it is that they are all perfectly sculpted. That is virtually impossible to achieve without being a genetic freak (which granted almost every NFL player is) and living like a fanatical monk. Either players have gotten a lot more devoted or more likely they are all taking some kind of growth hormone.

  • Overt||

    That's absurd. Look at most offensive linemen and you still see giant bellies sticking out of their jerseys. If there were a super growth hormone scuplting bodies, why aren't they all primadonisies?

    A lot has changed in 20 years, including training and also diet.

  • ||

    Also an explosion in salaries. The last 20 years have seen the best and brightest athletes come into the NFL chasing the big money.

    This has also coincided with the death of prize fighting outside of Russia/Latin America

  • AuH2O||

    Ray Lewis came back from a torn tricep faster than any athlete in recent memory.

    Now, maybe it was the kind of tear or somehow the nature of the injury... but if this were baseball, a sport where we are used to discussing PEDs, people would be wondering about it, at the very least.

  • Sidd Finch||

    JC Bradbury doesn't understand MRP. I can't imagine he has much useful to say about the economics of scalping. (I'd link to JC's post but he deleted almost all the comments.)

  • Archduke Pantsfan||

    Miguel Bloombito ‏@ElBloombito
    Por que esta so coldo agaiño? Donde esta did warmingo de global go?
  • Archduke Pantsfan||

  • mr simple||

    That sucks about Caleb Moore. I guess you take your life in your own hands when you fly around the air with a 450 lbs. machine. I was watching when he crashed and his snowmobile came down on him hard and I was surprised when he walked away. I wonder if they'll keep it as a sport or what changes they will make.

  • Sevo||

    This is the "X-game" (stupid quotes on purpose) guy who bought the farm?
    Sorry, but any "game" that needs judges rather than a stop-watch or a counter isn't a "sport". It's a show-off competition.
    "Hey, look! I can be way more stupid than you can!"
    Yes, you can idiot, yes you can.

  • ||

    Think of it as the Darwin's Award Exposition.

  • ||

    So diving, figure skating, and gymnastics aren't sports?

  • crashland||

    Of course not, the competitors may be athletes, doesn't make the subjective competition a sport. They are just like beauty contests.

  • Restoras||

    Mckayla's not impressed.

  • mr simple||

    Hmm, quibbling over semantics? So you have no point? I wonder if they'll keep it as an event. Happy?

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