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Reason Morning Links*: Cigarette Makers Sue FDA Over New Warning Labels, Obama to Talk Economy Back to Life, Long Beach Police Chief Defends Having Cops Double as Critics
- AP: "Seeking a jolt for a wilting economy, President Barack Obama will give a major speech in early September."
- Five tobacco companies have filed suit against the FDA on the grounds that new warning labels "would illegally force them to make consumers 'depressed, discouraged and afraid'" of their products.
- Tea Party favorite and Virginia Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli may run for the Senate in 2014.
- The Economist's Erica Grieder: "What we get wrong about Rick Perry."
- "Police Chief Jim McDonnell has confirmed that detaining photographers for taking pictures 'with no apparent esthetic value' is within Long Beach Police Department policy."
- College proposes to limit tuition hikes to 1 percent above the CPI.
New at Reason.tv: "Obamacare, Gov't Insurance Exchanges, & The Coming Price Explosion"
*Mea culpa, readers.
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good morning reason! have the wealthy [JOBZ] creators created [JOBZ] yet?
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In Texas they have, apparently.
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so the [JOBZ] the wealthy create are stimulus & min wage warehouse jobs?
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Nope, they have wages above the existing state average.
Since the recession started hourly wages in Texas have increased at a 6th fastest pace in the nation.
The linked study is enough to convince Nate Silver, but perhaps not ideologues like OO.
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Hay Reezin, stopp stikkng upp for de rritch peepull and supporrt skule teechers lyke mee!
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engineer
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moron
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"engineer"
Sanitary?
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Municipal planning...
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and Wisconsin
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looks like those summer [JOBZ] are ending.
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Well, of course the summer jobs in Wisconsin are ending. They have nothing left to protest.
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regardless the wealthy [JOBZ] creators [JOBZ] are disappearing
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Re: Double Asshole,
regardless the wealthy [JOBZ] creators [JOBZ] are disappearing
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but the wealthy come NOT into the [JOBZ] void.
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Any particular reason why they should?
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Among the non-criminal behaviors "which shall be reported on a SAR" are the usage of binoculars and cameras (presumably when observing a building, although this is not specified), asking about an establishment's hours of operation, taking pictures or video footage "with no apparent esthetic value," and taking notes.
Thought Police?
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Thoughtless Police
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Breaking news: Michael Bay arrested in Long Beach.
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Gosh, there might be an Al-kaydee posing as a photographer.
Horrors!
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Did you see the amount of boot-lickers commenting on that article? I am amazed at the amount of logical disconnect that many of my fellow Long Beach residents have. I never realized I was surrounded by so many paranoid, statist dopes. Depressing.
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We have lots of them here. Some even argue that ranking on statists is unappealing to the rest of the world and other such drivel.
Statists are evil. Period. It is a mental disorder.
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Pizza joint employee: "Hello, officer? Some guy just asked me when we close on Saturdays. I mean, the hours are posted right on the door, but he asked me! I wrote down his license plate number for you."
Cops: "ON THE GROUND, TERRORIST! STOP RESISTING! GIMME THAT PHONE! YOU GOT ANY FUCKIN' PICTURES IN THERE WITH LOW AESTHETIC VALUE, TERRORIST? HEY, STOP FUCKING RESISTING!"
Long Beach Post: "Police today announced that a man who was subdued and beaten by police was a suspected terrorist and that the officers involved were acting within department policy. All six, who have been on paid administrative leave pending the outcome of the internal investigation, will return to duty immediately."
STOP RESISTING!
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Without offering any specifics about his plans, the president has been telling audiences he will get detailed in September, and then fight it out. "My attitude is, get it done," he said in one Iowa town hall on Monday.
Looks like I'm a goner.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/.....29066.html
Ed Schultz apologizes for being Ed Schultz while continuing to be Ed Schultz.
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On this particular statement, we should not have included it in our coverage of his overheated rhetoric.
It's a good thing Ed doesn't engage in overheated rhetoric. It might lead him to have to issue embarrassing apologies to his nine viewers.
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Don't start no stuff; won't be no stuff…
141 FansWhy do HP commentators get cool bios and slogans and ratings and other cutting-edge doodads? Are we not as deserving? Are we not men?
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You got the threaded comments you wanted so badly SO SHUT YOUR FACE.
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But threaded comments encourage trolls, sockpuppets, drive-bys, pot shots and general incivility! That's not progress. That's...that's...anarchy!
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Don't worry, robc will be around to lobby for some kind of centrally planned and controlled threading system based on account creation and other statist requirements, which he claims will make threaded comments useable but in fact are just another way to STIFLE MY CREATIVITY.
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fuck off slavers
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Or, you know, eliminate threaded comments.
One or the other.
Im fine either way. I was perfectly happy with quoting bits out of the comment I was responding to.
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Anyone else notice that the general quality of this place diminished at about the same time that threaded comments came into being? Coincidence, or an example in microcosm of how anarchy attracts and nurtures the basest instincts among men.
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That takes up server memory though. Electrons aren't exactly a renewable resource.
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Im fine either way. I was perfectly happy with quoting bits out of the comment I was responding to.
That takes up server memory though. Electrons aren't exactly a renewable resource.
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Electrons aren't exactly a renewable resource.
We will see Peak Electron in five years, maybe less. After that, it will be "Teh End Timez™."
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We had plenty of those under the serial comments regime too.
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“”””College propose to limit tuition hikes to 1 percent above the CPI. “”’
Will they also make the college education 1 percent better? And since colleges are full of college educated staff shouldn’t they be able to improve education even faster then they raise prices? Or is falling behind the curve at 1 percent a year the best they can do?
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After they have raised tuition way above inflation every year for forty years, now they agree to stop raising it so fast and act like they are doing the world a favor. Assholes. I have kids I am not saving for their college. I am not giving those bastards a dime of my money.
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Wait, you don't want to fund your kid to go to a class on the history of the 20s and 30s where the professor states that one of his goals will be for kids, at the end, to be able to proudly say, "I'm a liberal"?
Seriously, Douglas Monroe, PHD, of The Colorado College, go die in a fie.
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No shit. I will let them get a scholarship. If the colleges want to pay for my kids to be there, fine. I will let them spend their own money or join the military. That is their choice. But I refuse to scrimp and save so I can pay hundreds of thousands of dollars so my kid can waste four years of his or her life in a God damned indoctrination camp.
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It all depends on what they study.
Take engineering for example.
It's hard to indoctrinate while teaching math and physics.
That's quite a bit different from taking a writing course taught by a Women's Studies undergrad who asks you to write about the political impact of Madonna and then wants a paper on 'Thelma and Louise' after showing the movie in class. (I took that class at FRCC in Boulder Colorado. Hmmm, maybe there's something in the water.)
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True. But most of the schools require even engineering majors to take some of that shit. And frankly, I think there are ways to get ahead without college. I think by the time I have kids and they are 18, the whole higher education edifice will have rotted down.
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If I were to do it over I would have gone to a trade school instead of a university. I've never met a poor plumber.
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...and I've never met a rich one.
Having said that, unless you're going to college to get a technical degree, undergrad degrees are worth less than the paper they're printed on.
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Monetarily, yes.
But both the establishment and its critics have allowed the university system to be looked at as something other than what it was designed to do.
It wasn't designed to be job training, but a place you go to gain personal enrichment (particularly the humanities). For that it can still be a wonderful place, if you can successfully navigate around all of the liberalizing they do.
My undergrad degree was paid for by my parents, and my MA was paid for by teaching and research assistantships. I started my PhD, and because the writing program didn't approve of my curriculum (I refused to use their indoctrination manuals which consisted of liberal topics written by liberals and designed to be taught by liberals), they didn't renew my contract, so, because I thought the education a benefit for me as a person, decided to pay for it out of pocket.
That is until I realized I HATED the academy and virtually everyone in it.
I loved my work, but hated the people I worked with, and disdained their definition of intellectual freedom.
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Seconded...I would have apprenticed in some sort of craft or trade (carpentry is appealing) and saved my parents the money. But my parents are of the belief that you ain't nuttin without no degree, so it's pretty much their fault.
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John, they can get the credit for most of the "soft" classes (e.g., Sociology or Psychology) through CLEP. I bought out-of-edition textbooks for $2, read through them, then was able to get credit for 33 semester hours. The tests cost me about $370 back then, and would cost ~ $800 now, but it's still worth it. I don't know what it's like now, but back then, high schoolers could take them. One local HS girl was in a couple of the ones I went to.
Also, encourage your kids to do whatever AP they can get.
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BP: ^this^. I walked into my first frosh class with 18 credit hours already under my belt. Cost me $250 (1975 dollars) and one afternoon.
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I have replaced "see you next tuesday" with "cubic nanoteslas".
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@SFC B's cubic nanoteslas
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Ha-ha! - In my Women's Studies class (back in 1980!), we had to critique Playboy cartoons and got to watch artsy feminist porn!
One of the craziest classes I've ever been in....
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But you were paying for that Mongo. Why not save your money and read playboy and watch artsy porn for the price of a netflicks subscription?
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John, Netflix didn't exist in 1980.
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I mean going forward.
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There is some indoctrination. A friend who studied physics is pretty adamant about government funding of expensive physics experiments.
And yes, there are plenty of ways to get ahead without college. In the entertainment industry OJT is considered more valuable than a formal education. Full Sail grads are ridiculed and generally considered useless.
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John, how much credibility do you accord the much ballyhooed narrative that, college graduates, on average, earn x-per cent more than high school graduates?
Yes, instinctively, I call bull shit.
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Me too. I think it is a process of self selection. The people who are smart enough and work hard enough and have the resources to graduate college are going to do better than those who are not as smart or hard working or lack the resources college or no.
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graduate studies, especially in the pure sciences and arts, are heavily dependent on gov't grants because companies aren't going to fund research into how frogs sing and why we should record it and play outside in a public space.
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I remember being forced to read chick lit in my required, undergraduate English classes.
After I wrote a paper demonstrating that one of the author's tortured metaphors involving the theory of relativity evidenced a preposterous application of said theory*, the professor apologized to the class for having us read the book and took it off her reading list.
*Seriously, it was like the author read the Sokal hoax paper and thought he was being serious.
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Nice try, Nooge, but everyone who has been to college knows the first rule of academia: Never admit your wrong.
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Nice try, Nooge, but everyone who has been to college knows the first rule of academia: Never admit your wrong.
Eh, she was very young and didn't have her PhD yet. She did replace it with another chick-lit book, though.
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"the first rule of academia: Never admit your wrong."
Bite...tongue....must...not...comment... (Actually, I guess you could read that as being grammatically correct, albeit in a very unusual construction. Whew, I feel better now.)
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I wasn't able to place out of freshman "literature" via AP, so I was stuck in a class reading the worst. books. evar. Includinging Carl Berstein's self-indulgent memoir whose only interesting factoid was that the commie headquarters in DC eventually became the 9:30 Club (the original 9:30 Club, downtown among the hookers and crackheads).
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I was able to place out of college English - all thanks to an AP test where I wrote an essay on "Naked Lunch". Ha!
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I placed out of college English too...whew. Two small points: 1. The single most interesting classes I took were the soft kind, one was International Violence taught by a for DIA anaylist. All about proliferation of arms etc...outstanding class (he was an adjunct BTW) another was a global econ, dude was the dept head and a full blown fucking marxist. I spent my entire midterm carefully explaining why he was wrong...I go the highest grade in the class, he said "that is the best defense of capitalism I have seen from a freshman (true not many freshman take a 500 course). He bacme my advisor...talk about fun, I would go to his office JUST to argue. Second point, Hard sciences are all you need college for. Everything else is fluff.
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typing was not offered...preemptive fuck off grammar nazis.
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My favorite class was "Intercultural Communication". It wasn't one of those "multiculturalism" hippie dippy classes - it was focused on international bidness and communication. The professor (Gary Weaver shoutout!!) was just so fricken awesome.
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I will let them get a scholarship.
I am fortunate in that my 5 year old's two favorite games to play with his dad are "Math Class" and hoops.
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You have a five-year-old Fluf? That explains a lot.
My six-year-olds are deep into nature and natural history. They recently discovered a rare orange morph of a sawfly larva. It stumped the naturalists at the nearby Metro Park for several hours -- they had to call in experts. (The lead naturalist had promised to name it for Charlie if they had discovered a new species. Probably good it wasn't. Katey would've been pissed.) -
Katey would've been pissed.
Katey would just need to get off her ass and discover a new species of her own. How hard can it be? Apparently, any six-year-old can do it.
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If the hoops thing doesn't work out, there's always West Point.
He's got these insane child prodigy map skills. He plays with Google Maps for hours on end, and has apparently memorized most of New England's road network. He calls out directions to me like a backseat Garmin for places we've never been before.
If he can learn topography too he'll be a natural staff officer.
That reminds me, I should dig out my old PlayStation and teach him to play the original Command and Conquer. Or maybe I could get him going on Medieval: Total War II and we could play LAN multiplayer.
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I am all for the service academies. I have paid enough taxes, let the damned government pay for their education.
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MTWII - man I have played the shit out of that game. I try to win with the shitty countries on hard now. If you have Dune II or the updated Dune 2000...
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Dune II is a classic. I'm really hoping GOG can get their hands on the old Westwood catalog and re-release it.
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Have them do what I'm telling all of my younger friends and step-son to do: get a university education in the US, rack up 100s of thousands of dollars in student loans, then emigrate to Australia, Canada, or New Zealand and say "fuck you" to the lenders.
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A guy I went to high school with is now in Med School, planning to follow this exact plan.
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I have to brag on my eldest, too -- who went the scholarship route: He got a full ride to Maurer School of Law at the University of Indiana.
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I have an 18 month old...she points to dogs and goes "woof woof".
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Does she walk yet? 'Cause Mr. Big Shot Law Student didn't walk until almost age two.
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She walks, and quickly...right into walls sometimes. I laugh, get scowled at and then go on in life.
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Why don't colleges get price-controls and other regulatory oversights like insurance does?
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From the comments:
Higher education should nationalized with tuition set with a Medicare like fee schedule and paid for with a new educational security payroll tax.
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eep... and I was being semi-sarcastic.
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I think that MD might have been being sarcastic, too.
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that doc should know better -- probably a specialist. primary care docs don't defend the fee schedule.
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Or the doc was fucking with everyone...
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Fairness.
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Someone has to say it.
That tour bus is RACIST!!
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+1
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Are you sayin' that a brotha can't have a black bus?
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Why's it gotta be black!?
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Did they rebrand Morning Links? Finally?
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Concerned. This rebranding appears to give them leeway to post them outside of an acceptable timeframe.
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I wondered that, too
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6 Year Old Girl Forced to Film Her Mom Having Group Sex
And the award for the Adult Video Awards in 2023 goes to...
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Whatever happened to tripods? And did she really think a 6 year old would have the skills to provide proper mise en scéne?
But seriously, horrible mom.
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In certain states, the father still couldn't get custody because the mother didn't force the girl to participate. Equal rights my ass.
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that's changing rapidly. im raising my 2 kids since my ex is a musician who tours.
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scary to think i am raising kids as im too stupid to even wipe my own ass
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This sounds like BS to me. That's what the prosecutor has charged her with, but I doubt that's actually what happened.
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Whole new meaning to double-ender.
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Human centi-corndog!!!
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Some things cannot be unseen.
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That looks like the label of a kickass 33.
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I wish you had Sugar Freed that - what's seen cannot be unseen
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Oh, I triple-checked that link.
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NovaStar Financial was a microcosm of what would set the stage for the 2008 credit crisis, a new book says
Red Flags on NovaStar’s Mortgages Were Unheeded...As the housing bubble inflated, NovaStar was able to convince many of its shareholders that its mistakes were honest ones and were immaterial to its growing business. The company hired Lanny Davis, a well-connected lobbyist and public relations operative, to run interference. Mr. Davis was used to operating in a crucible; he had been special counsel to President Bill Clinton during the Monica Lewinsky scandal. ...
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Well, knowing what happens to Novas, why wouldn't their investors have expected things to blow up?
Duh - IT WAS RIGHT IN THEIR NAME, PEOPLE!
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Loug Gerhig's disease, don't know how he didnt see that one coming. I said "Lou, there is a disease out there with your name ALL OVER it."
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*facepalm of all facepalms*
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From Instapundit yesterday. His reader pretty much nails it. I will never again hear Obama talk about the economy and not think of this scene.
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Is that Carrie Fisher?
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Yes - yes it is
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Yes it is. In one of her best roles as the disgruntled ex fiance. She spends the whole movie trying to kill Jake.
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Well, her best role was in Shampoo.
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Her best role was as Slave Leia, which you'd know if you were 13 when ESB came out.
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I was only 12, but that scene pushed me into an early puberty.
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You'd also know that Slave Leia was in RotJ
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That explains why I was only 10 when ESB came out. Anyway, still works.
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pauze, rewind, pauze, rewind, DMANIT I need a 4 head VCR for the right resolution...pauze, rewind.
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College proposes to limit tuition hikes to 1 percent above the CPI.
Price controls worked so great everywhere else they've been tried, after all.
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Doesn't sound like a national price control. Sounds like a marketing ploy, which is common and sometimes effective.
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"10% off your first semester with this coupon. Not valid for graduate degrees."
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Is there a Groupon?
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Middlebury college, now a bargain for Yankee yuppies whose kids were too stupid for even Brown.
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Middlebury's campus is far more visually appealing. It also has the edge in the language arts.
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It's not a price control if it's voluntary.
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McDonnell says that while there is no police training specific to determining whether a photographer's subject has "apparent esthetic value," officers make such judgments "based on their overall training and experience"
Emphasis added: I can see lots of jobs being created.
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Well, you can't expect them to be EXPERTS.
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i stayed at a holiday inn express. does that count?
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We really need to start paying these guys more. They not only have their police duties, but they have to be lawyers, judges, and now, art critics.
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You left out their animal control duties.
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You got the judge part, but forgot about the jury and executioner duties.
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"Seeking a jolt for a wilting economy, President Barack Obama will give a major speech in early September."
I see the mixed metaphor lobby is throwing their money around again.
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Hot air and lies apparently create shovel ready jobs.
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Gaaaa, he's going to spend his whole fucking vacation writing the speech. Can't you feel for the guy? He's had a lot bad luck.
The "Big Job Plan"? His aids have come up with an idea about work camps on the Alaska archipelago. Code name: Gulag.
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They got the idea after watching the Ice Road Truckers and Deadliest Catch marathons on TDC.
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There are marathons as opposed to their normal lineups? Oh right, the normal lineup throws in some Ax Men and Pawn Stars to break up the reality TV monotony on Discovery. My bad.
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Does anyone else watch IFC? Has anyone caught Whisker Wars? I'm afraid to as the commercials exceed my hipster tolerance by a considerable amount. Still, someone was going to market reality TV that didn't involve cooking to hipsters. Wish I would have thought of it.
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That lobby is just a political football hacking away at the roots of the Ship of State.
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A speech is exactly what we need right now. The others worked so well.
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Ah, ... but this one will have *puppets*.
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+1
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A speech is a great idea. Y'know, like the one Nixon gave in '74.
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I'm just wondering why he doesn't give the speech tonight. Why does he want the economy to suffer for another month when he has a solution right now?
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Mom sues after Medicaid kills her child
See, this is where I'm nice: I could have linked to the Jezebel posting of this, and you could have had to read about how the big, greedy, mean, evil doctors should be forced to treat people by the almighty single payer. Or....
The solution to a bureaucratic fuck up is more bureaucracy.In short.
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Government: the cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems.
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...make consumers 'depressed, discouraged and afraid'" of their products.
The warning labels could include actual thorns and their consumers wouldn't give a shit.
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We keep electing warning labels to public office, yet continue to consume more government.
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detaining photographers for taking pictures 'with no apparent esthetic value' is within Long Beach Police Department policy.
Trust me, these cops wouldn't know art if an inebriated man thought they were a back alley wall and came up and peed on them.
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I can't define aesthetics but I know it when I see a perp photographing not it.
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** being hauled away in handcuffs **
But I'm going to crop it and give it a sepia tone!
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Sepia?! That's enough to turn me into Dunphy.
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Then you'd be married to Morgan Fairchild!
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golden showers! my favorite!
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Batman villains psychoanalyzed
Doesn't DC already do this with its Vertigo imprint?
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"Just because a behavior is aberrant or considered 'crazy,' it does not mean that the behavior is the result of mental illness."
Are you serious?
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Long Beach Art Patrol, saving people from fauxtographers.
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Former Playboy Playmate arrested for bringing loaded gun to an airport
I'd like to pat her down, if ya know what I mean!!!
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The mug shot shows how photoshopped those pictures are. How long before Playboy just stops bothering with models and just uses computer generated ones?
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I think it may have more to do with the make up and lighting, Johnzebel.
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It is all photoshop. Every woman over the age of 17, has some flaw somewhere on their body, a little cellulite or little fat where it shouldn't be, a blemish or freckle. That is all done away with via photoshop. And frankly, the whole effect is a bit creepy. But that is just me.
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That is why non replicants will have to wear hats or carry umbrellas whenever we venture outside.
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As a friend of mine said more than 20 years ago -- Sure the've been retouched, but they still look good to me.
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Once Skynet controls our porn, it will control us.
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That what a year of swimming in the contaminated waters of The Grotto does to you.
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Ew...
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Kieth Richards talks about staying at the Mansion in Chicago during the Stones' 1975 tour. Apparently, the place wasn't so hot even then.
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Wow. And if someone as stoned as Richards ca. 1975 could notice it...
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That's why Hef always make sure to keep brine shrimp out of the grotto.
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How in the world is that magazine still in business?
You guys are always talking about people who pay for porn sites with thousands of hardcore porn videos getting ripped off -- what about the people paying for 10 tasteful nude pictures a month?
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Ladies and gentlemen, your tax dollars at work: Falls Church, VA, enclave of federal contractors is now wealthiest neighborhood in the US.
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Oops, Falls Church = Great Falls. I get my wealthy D.C. enclaves mixed up sometimes.
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Even the political hacks can only make 170K a year. The GS employees are limited to 150K. Make no mistake, that is a lot of money. But it is not millions. And it is not enough to afford a multi million dollar house. Go to redfin.com sometime and run a search for 1.5 million dollar and above houses in the DC area. You will get hundreds of results. That is contractors and lobbyists. It is fucking appalling the amount of stealing that is going on in this town.
If the DC housing market hasn't crashed by the end of their term, the next President will have failed in his mission.
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America's eunuchs and courtiers have to live somewhere, right?
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I'm in Falls Church. we have McMansion instead of the actual mansions in Great Falls.
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You also have a great german grocery store and the Black-Eyed Pea.
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I'm assuming that the BEP in Falls Church is not part of the chain that was in TX in the late 90s... because unless you really love crappy chicken-fried steak, there's no way you'd brag about that.
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I like the sides. That's all I order.
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Falls Church is where Taliban Towers and that Mosque where the radical Muslims hang out are located.
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I just heard that the only housing markets where home prices didn't go down last month (year-year) were Seattle and Washington DC. Seattle was flat.
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Robber returns wallet with an apology note
Jimmy McMillian is being evicted from his apartment
Hmm... I wonder why?
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Goddamn it - one decent article at Gawker leads me to click on another article, throw up, and realize why I don't read Gawker.
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Someone posted their live blog of the Iowa debate, which was actually pretty funny. However, after being burned a few times, I knew not to go further.
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Which one was which?
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Silicon Valley billionaire funding creation of artificial libertarian islands
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lo.....40896.html'Thiel has been a big backer of the Seasteading Institute, which seeks to build sovereign nations on oil rig-like platforms to occupy waters beyond the reach of law-of-the-sea treaties. The idea is for these countries to start from scratch--free from the laws, regulations, and moral codes of any existing place. Details says the experiment would be "a kind of floating petri dish for implementing policies that libertarians, stymied by indifference at the voting booths, have been unable to advance: no welfare, looser building codes, no minimum wage, and few restrictions on weapons."'
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artificial island
Doesn't this describe every libertarian already?
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+1
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Gotta love the "philosophically consistent" libertarians. These are the first ass-clowns to demand open borders for everyone else, and then turn around and found Free State Projects and Seasteads where they can segregate themselves from the hoi polloi and run things to suit themselves.
"A nation for libertarians, and cosmopolitanism for the rest of you suckers!"
I wonder if this Seastead will have open borders? I know what my money says!
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Depends. If the libertarian enclaves are private property, then there's no problem with the owner excluding whoever he wants.
If they are some form of radically minarchist nation-state, then, yeah, open borders.
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AFAIK, neither New Hampshire or international waters are private property....
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Oil platforms IN international waters, not the waters themselves.
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In any event, they're quite explicitly referring to these things as "countries", implying they intend to claim some type of political sovereignty for them.
'Twill be interesting to see how they resolve the conundrum when some group hostile to their ends calls their bluff. If I know my libertarians, they'll be doing quite a philosophical tap dance trying to have it both ways....
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It would be really easy for me to have it both ways.
I would simply write a constitution codifying my vision of minarchism and requiring unanimous consent (i.e. 100% of the vote in a plebiscite no exceptions) to amend that constitution in any way.
I would then open the borders.
Citizenship is not that big a deal when your government can't change to fit the half-ass opinions of the plebs.
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Oddly enough, I don't support open borders for my condo association. Then again, I'm just a big tangle of philosophical inconsistencies.
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Oddly enough, I don't support open borders for my condo association.
Why not?
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not enough bathroom facilities?
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Christ, Slappy, are you really this dumb?
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That's a rhetorical question, right?
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It's not impossible to build a city in the middle of the Pacific. It was impossible to build it anywhere else.
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I must have missed the FSP trying to coercively prevent non-FSPers from moving to NH. They're doing a shitty job of it if they are trying, given the Massholes multiplying like stinkbugs in the southeastern part of the state.
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I must have missed where I said they were trying to coercively do anything. My point here is that they're trying to establish New Hampshire as an enclave for "people like us", among a sympathetic and like-minded population.
This might be a goal I'd be a bit more sympathetic to, were it not for the libertarian tendency to throw hissy-fits when the native populations of other states and countries also prefer to live among "people like us", and take steps to ensure that outcome. Low hanging fruit for the Enlightened™ libertarians of the FSP - they can afford to endorse immigration, because New Hampshire is not a particularly popular target for immigrants. If it was, the FSP would fold like a cheap suit, pronto. I discount the influx of Massholes because they are generally the more conservative variety moving to escape a more liberal state, and are therefore not a problem for the FSP (at least that's what the FSP tells us).
Given that New Hampshire is not only one of the most libertarian states in the country, but also one of the whitest ones (amazing coincidence!), it might be a bit of fun to organize a White State Project among white nationalists, also targeting NH. We can find out how much the Enlightened™ libertarians of the FSP like open borders when they're on the business end of them. ;)
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Stupid Feminist Problems: Is it hypocritical to want to have babies?
Yes, this is a serious question that they ask.
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Poor things, only just now figuring out that if they don't have babies eventually there won't be any feminists.
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Restoras be nimble ...
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Dude, won't work. Teenage rebellion in a feminist house is to become a conservative housewife.
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Damn it, you're right. Curse the lack of Delete Comment button...
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"I'm going to be barefoot and pregnant and lower my consciousness AND YOU CAN'T STOP ME!!!"
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Is it hypocritical to want to have babies?
Hmm. I'd say: Not if the babies are raised to be feminists.
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The shocking thing to me about discussions like these (and they certainly are ubiquitous) is the way people assume that they can just talk themselves out of very basic drives.
Trying to ideologically convince yourself that you don't want to have children is like trying to ideologically convince yourself that ice cream tastes bad, or that it feels really nice to put your hand on a stove.
There are some people out there who just plain old naturally don't want children, but if you aren't one of those people you'll want them and there's nothing you can do about it.
It has always surprised me that liberals embrace just about every hedonistic drive out there, but have a problem with child-rearing. I think it's because they believe (falsely) that the impulse to have children is different than the impulse to, say, eat a big meal. And it's not. When nature puts an itch in your brain and you scratch it, you're satisfying a "selfish" impulse, even if that selfish impulse is "spend a lot of time, energy and money passing on my genes".
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It shouldn't surprise you because the whole point of the post French Revolution liberal endeavor has been to transform human nature into something that is not. Trying to create a woman who rises above her desire to have children in order to create the feminist paradise is really no different than trying to create the Soviet Man in order to create the socialist paradise. Same principle in both cases.
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Yes, it was the French Revolution's liberal conspiracy to create abortion and birth control, and have both (especially the latter) be widely used and available.
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this is what passes for comedy on wingnutz radio
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It is only comedy to people who are both too ignorant of history and too stupid to understand it. So, it makes sense you would find it funny.
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"It has always surprised me that liberals embrace just about every hedonistic drive out there, but have a problem with child-rearing."
Child-rearing tends to put a damper on those other hedonistic drives.
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Child-rearing is a hedonistic drive? No.
There's a reason people who were rich enough have always paid others to rear their children for them.
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She's not a hypocrite, she just mostly grew up and changed her mind about what was important to her, and now she does not want to tell her friends and family "you were right about me".
Hypocrisy is doing one thing and saying another at the same time. Legitimately changing your mind about what you are saying and doing cannot be condisdered hypocritical.
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So... prideful bitch?
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Prideful, certainly.
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comment lifted from Techdirt
Does that mean police officers have "no apparent esthetic value" since you can't film or take pictures of them?
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ELIMINASHUNIST RHETORIX!!!11!!!1omg!!!
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I think that was their wedding picture.
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Great. Thanks a lot, SF. Now the blog is gonna smell like rotten fish for a week because of rather's fapping.
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Oh, c'mon - that could be ANYONE in downtown Cleveland these days.
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Excellent beard on Luigi.
By the way, I'm using my phone to post while I wait for my new tires to get installed. Shit is difficult. I don't understand why rectal bothers.
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The Chester A. Arthur is no mere beard! It is one of the hardest mustaches to grace the lip and cheek of man!
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Are you being forced to watch the Today show too?
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CSI on A&E. It could me worse.
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Love the plunger.
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Tea Party favorite and Virginia Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli may run for the Senate in 2014.
Harry Reid thinks this is an impossibility.
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Hell with that, run him for president NOW.
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Thiel has been a big backer of the Seasteading Institute, which seeks to build sovereign nations on oil rig-like platforms to occupy waters beyond the reach of law-of-the-sea treaties.
But will these Water World style terrorist enclaves be beyond the reach of remotely piloted kamikaze planes? I think not.
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http://www.blogger.com/comment.....2424705174
The stupid on this Althouse thread about the subject is appalling. Yes, conservatives can be as stupid and uninformed as liberals.
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The thing that amuses me is:
How well defended do they think Costa Rica is? Or any of the Micronesian states? Or Andorra or Monaco?
The number of armchair generals out there who have essentially zero knowledge of history or geography amazes me sometimes. Hey, guys - if you want to be armchair generals, at least learn the basics of the trade, OK?
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The Micronesian states are very well defended. They are part of a common wealth with the United States. So they pretty much have the US Navy on call.
Costa Rica has an army. They don't have an infantry division or anything. But they have enough that you and I couldn't invade the place.
Also, Costa Rica doesn't have much of an Army because it has a large neighbor to the North who would not be happy if say China or Venezuela or Cuba started invading Central America. That tends to deter people. But suppose the US ceased to exist. There is nothing to say that one of Costa Rica's neighbors wouldn't one day decide that some beach front property would be nice. And Cost Rica would have to build a larger army.
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That's all true. (Costa Rica denies they have an army, by the way. But they have a modest force of men bearing arms, so we'll call that their "army".)
But those are all examples of "ways modern microstates get by without an army or with a miniscule army". The posters on Althouse apparently believe that no such ways exist.
You and I couldn't knock over Costa Rica, but I bet Blackwater could. But the situation doesn't arise, because modern politics doesn't favor adventurism of that kind.
Basically what it boils down to is, "If the USA decides you're a state, you can get by even at a micro-scale, and if the USA decides to fuck you, you're dead, whether you're little or big." If it's true of Iraq, it certainly would be true of Liberfloatia.
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That is true. If you live under the umbrella of US influence, you really don't need an army. The US provides one. But saying you can get by in the world using the US or some other great power's army by proxy, is different than saying you don't need an army.
You need an army. It just doesn't have to be yours.
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Isn't Blackwater about the 7th largest and 4th best equipped army in the world? I
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Blackwater has, from everything I've seen, less then 1000 total employees. Not sure how many are shooters, but I'd say a total of two very light infantry companies at the very max. I think they have one or two old APCs, and a couple boats, plus a decent amount of armored SUVs.
Blackwater, for all their bugaboo image, are nothing more then security guards for the worst neighborhoods in the world. They take more guns to work then your average rent a cop, but their business is security, not aggression. They'll keep your building intact or your CEO alive in a hot zone.
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these never get old, do they?
My first question is: Will their be women?Second: How will they get Mom's basement out there?
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no gun regulation = good AA defenses? Of course there is the threat of a naval attack... hmm...
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Load up with Exocets and AGM-119s. I guarantee they won't be expecting everybody on the island to launch a couple of those when the feds/UN/interpol come to arrest everybody.
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Its a pretty safe assumption that the currency will be sound, the Russkies will sell them anything they want.
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Everybody who's forwarded the link to me says "what about pirates?" To which I say, what about quad-mount 50-calibers? That should take care of anyone or anything less well-equipped than a major navy. Really, though, the problem would be more one of blockades, since Libertopia Island wouldn't be remotely self-sufficient.
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Issue Letters of Marque. Problem solved.
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Leave Obama alone Travis Smiley!!! LEAVE HIM ALONE!!!
Tavis and Professor West need to stop the charade. A “Poverty Tour” that doesn’t register voters or educate the people attending these events on the political process and explain why more assistance for the poor is not possible with this current Congress then what’s the point? There needs to be solutions offered. It’s perfectly fine to criticize this administration constructively but when it looks like you are just mad because you were left off the guest list you aren’t in it for the poor, you are in it for yourself.
I mean, when will these fucks realize that nothing is ever Obama's fault? As long as anyone votes for even the Blue Dog Democrats, our utopia can not be achieved!
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I applaud and respect the courage of Tavis and Dr. West. I honestly think those guys have way more character than the president.
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The risk to the social contract presented by lax building codes can never be overstated.
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http://www.fda.gov/TobaccoProd.....rtisements
This scares the shit out of me.
I would encourage all cigarette smokers to quit. But this is not how to achieve that goal.
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If you really want people to stop smoking pre-packaged cigarettes, just print the rolling papers to look like an engorged dog dick. Smoking will skyrocket in a few places, but plummet almost everywhere.
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Or, to avoid offending PETA, mandate cigarettes be rolled with single-ply toilet paper.
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One cigarette in every pack is laced with arsenic.
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Actually, all of them already are. What you want is to increase the DOSE in one...:)
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One cigarette in every pack is laced with an immediately fatal level of arsenic.
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Killing them is a bit harsh. How about lacing one per pack with Adamsite? The nice thing about Adamsite is the latency period. You smoke a cig, and 5-10 minutes later you're sick for a couple of hours. Operant conditioning is a bitch. Do that a couple of times and you won't go near a cigarette.
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Sorry, brother. I've been down this road and while it may cause a pain in the old gullet, it won't stop the demons in then old thinking box.
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Never ever ever fuck with this Holocaust survivor
I do not care how old he is. He will fuck your shit up.
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I read that a couple days ago.
Moving to the city from a very Protestant region, I was mortified the first time I saw an old man with his serial number tat on his arm.
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Thanks, that was an incredible story.
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Awesome story.
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What an incredible, horrible, wonderful story! Thanks for posting (and for not you-ing the link).
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Some Texas parolees freed of sex offender label
A small amount of good news. It still boggles the mind how you can brand someone a sex-offender without them being convicted of a sex-crime.
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If you couldn't bang them, what would be the point of meeting women? Just hire a maid.
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Warty, I don't have the money to hire a cook AND a maid. Jesus, I'm not maid of money here!!! *ba-dum CHHHH*
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Wait, you can't bang your maid? WTF do you pay her for? To clean??? That's what wives are for!
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MICHIGAN MAN SHOT IN APPARENT ATTACK BY UNION.
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That's why it's great to have lightning reflexes. I can't take credit for it, but it's great. And I carry. I hope a union thug tries something like that with me one day.
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explain why more assistance for the poor is not possible with this current Congress
I was temporarily flummoxed by this passage, until I realized they are not saying there are limits to the resources available for their Robin Hood wealth redistribution plans, but that the evil teabagsterdz currently barricaded in the Capitol Rotunda with their hostages (US! WE are being held hostage!) are foiling their grandiose scheme to bring fairness and social justice to the degenerate wasteland which is America.
Voter education means "Vote Democrat! A CHICKEN IN EVERY POT!"
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No, it doesn't even mean vote for a Democrat, because you could elect one of those nasty Blue Dogs like Ben Nelson. You have to elect the right kind of Democrat.
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Oh, so, only SugarFree will get this, but: Is it just me, or is Jezebel just doing a "Two Minutes of Hate" at Bachman every day? I get that she's the anti-them, but Rick Perry and Romney aren't getting daily coverage of how stupid and evil they are.
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Yes, they are extra wound up about her. They decry with a simper sexist attacks on female Republicans, and then savage them obsessively themselves. If it was high school and Facebook, they'd call it cyberbullying.
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Bahcman, like Palin, is not just a horrible looking woman, actually has a husband who can stand her, and kids she enjoys. In short, she is everything the chicks on Jezebel are either too ugly or too emotionally stunted to ever have but secretly really want. They can't help but hate her.
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That's not true, they love attractive Democratic women like
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What you did there, I saw it
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Mary Landrieu is okay. of course she's competing with the likes of Rosa DeLauro
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that's a shame.
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Mary fucking Landrieu? Really? We need to get you a hooker..
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Get him an expensive one, like Mary Landrieu.
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I suspect it's more of a partisan thing than an "attractiveness envy" thing. They believe that the only reason a woman would choose to be a Republican, let alone choose to be a Republican political officeholder, is because she's stupid.
The true test would be if our friend Gov. Jan Brewer ever ran for national office.
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Jesus, so, I just read yesterday's "We Hateses the Bachman!" post. The new thing in the comments? All of her foster children are fake/female, and this makes her evil somehow.
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"“You just can’t run around shooting your mouth off and talking about the Federal Reserve and talking about treason and getting ugly,” said Cornelius Hurley, a law professor at Boston University and a former assistant general counsel to the Fed’s Board of Governors. “That’s just not appropriate.
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But calling your opponents terrorists is perfectly fine.
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Jesus Christ guys!
I don't check in for a few hours last night and I miss that fucking histerical back-and-forth betweeen Heller, sevo et al and Whitey? That was too good. That was some grade A trolling. I mean, 500+ comments? Seriously, he's a one-trick pony, but better than HERC or The Troof for sheer trolling power. -
Herc isn't a troll. He's a prophet.
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All of his posts will be put together some day and made into a holy book Herc's Epistle to the Reasonites
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What the hell happened?
I'm on slow internet right now and don't want to load a 600 post thread.
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Not sure. White Indian was over ruining the thread on the Constitutionality of the individual mandate this morning.
The site is really attracting a lower and lower quality of lunatic anymore. It used to be Lone Wacko was about as crazy as it got.
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not that I want to even try (hey, I'm "working" here), but I don't even understand the point of White Injun. Something about agriculture, land, neo-cons and er... but I suppose that _is_ the point of a troll.
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As far as I can understand it, his logic is this:
1. Agriculture is not sustainable long term.*
2. In the long term, agriculture will support fewer people per acre than it currently does.
3. To avoid #2, above, we should switch back to hunter-gatherer societies.
4. Hunter-gatherer societies support fewer people per acre even than agricultural societies whose resource base has collapsed, but we should ignore that and proceed to #5.
5. We should exterminate enough people so that the remainder can live as hunter-gatherers, even though this would kill more people even than continuing with agriculture and waiting for it to crash.*
*I don't agree with this premise, but I'm rolling with it to try to understand the silliness that is White Indian.
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now I know more than I ever wanted... thanks!
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To put it more succinctly, lets kill billions of people so White Indian can live his aboriginal fantasies.
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All I know is its something about raping his mother, whom he wants all to himself?
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STUPIDITY!! WTF!!
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Fluff, you pretty well nailed it.
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Amazon officially successful: Liberals now hate it.
A coalition of groups that advocate for the elderly and poor are urging California online shoppers to boycott Amazon.com because of its refusal to collect state sales tax on purchases made through the website.
Organizations including California Alliance for Retired Americans, the Health and Human Services Network of California, Health Access, the Western Center on Law and Poverty, the California Immigration Policy Center, the California Partnership held a Sacramento press conference on Aug. 15 to announce the creation of the Think Before You Click website. They urged people to cancel their Amazon accounts.
The groups were joined at the press conference by state Sen. Loni Hancock (D-Berkeley) and Assembly members Nancy Skinner (D-Berkeley) and Charles Calderon (D-Whittier).
In June, the California legislature passed and Gov. Jerry Brown signed a bill to require all online retailers with any presence in the state - including advertising agreements with California-based websites, called affiliates - to collect sales tax from California purchasers.
Amazon and other major retailers terminated their affiliate relationships. Even without the affiliates, Amazon is required by the new law to collect sales tax because it has subsidiaries based in California.
Seattle-based Amazon has contributed $3 million to collect signatures for a referendum to repeal the law and is refusing to collect sales taxes on purchases.
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Re: Stupid Californians,
The boycott is another effort to get Amazon to comply.
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its refusal to collect state sales tax on purchases made through the website
Good for Amazon. It seems they have balls.
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Just got a new radeon off Amazon, so I'm getting a kick etc etc.
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Stupid rent-seeking dicks. I hate people. Also, the Anti-Nowhere League hates people, too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yokr8ezGvFU
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http://yro.slashdot.org/story/.....oses-Again
Righthaven loses again.
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Oh boy - this could start a riot if it gets out...
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I knew they were behind it!
But I've totally worked with poor black kids so I know what I'm talking about.
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taking pictures 'with no apparent esthetic value'
Long Beach is a perfect place for that.
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Hey! I resent that comment.
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Don't mind me. I was just being a hater.
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No problem, man. I haven't finished my morning coffee, and I'm a little sensitive.
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A coalition of groups that advocate for the elderly and poor are urging California online shoppers to boycott Amazon.com because of its refusal to collect state sales tax on purchases made through the website.
Nice; they don't just attempt to "educate" those shoppers about their "duty" as residents of the state of California to independently report and pay those taxes.
If it doesn't involve coercion, why the fuck bother?
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This kind of thinking will inevitably advance a national sales tax on all online purchases.
Of course it won't involve a roll back on current income taxes.
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You might want to sit down for this one. Seattle's $20,000,000 green jobs program is a bust.
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Obviously not enough money was spent!
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Those green jobs training programs are absolutely idiotic.
And I mean that in a sense that goes beyond the Standard Libertarian Disclaimer.
Even if I were to put on my short-bus helmet and pretend that programs like that are a good idea, these particular programs would be idiotic.
Here's why:
Green jobs training falls into two general areas.
1) Training to work on private residence retrofitting - things like installing insulation.
2) Training to do commercial-scale solar and wind installations.
Here's the problem with training people for those jobs:
Residential retrofits are undertaken, usually, by small private contractors. Small private contractors, everywhere I have ever lived, acquire their employees informally, from a network of guys they've used before or from friends and relatives. They aren't going to hire some guy from the ghetto with a certificate from a community college, because they don't know the guy and because they already have a line of relatives waiting for their skilled jobs and a line of illegals waiting for the unskilled ones.
And the larger commercial projects usually use union labor, because they're either being done in conjunction with unionized utilities, or using state or federal grant funds that require the use of union labor or prevailing wage labor.
Again, the last guys who are going to be able to get union or prevailing wage jobs are guys from the ghetto with certificates from the local community college and with no experience or union connections.
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All true points. If you take that logic farther, young people from the ghetto are fucked. And illegal immigration has a lot to do with it. Those jobs are built via connections. And don't forget that most people are racist as hell. Mexicans won't work with Salvadorians let alone work with black people. If you have a good team of illegals working for you, you couldn't hire a black guy to put on the team if you wanted to.
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^^This is why I hate colored people^^
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what colored people are you?
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If only that was the worst thing the Long Beach PD does.
Hell, last December they shot a man to death for holding a garden hose, on his own property.
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Was he taking a picture of it?
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policy was followed. an independent group of brother law enforcement officers thought they were justified in shooting the man who was a danger to them going home safely.
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What did she do besides commit the cardinal sin of being hot? They really do bring the art of being an angry bitter screw to a new level don't they?
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Well, not only is she hot, but she's hot in a threatening way. Men are supposed to like Kate (she's the classier one, she's the princess, etc.) but we like Pippa (because she's the hot, exotic one who would be way more adventurous in bed). I think that pisses women off (see Jolie, Angela).
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What a bunch of pigs. How do we know that Pippa is better in bed? Looks can be deceiving. Kate might really get her freak on for all we know. She did something besides look hot to snag William.
And of course, lets not even think about the volumes of feminists bullshit that has been written about the damaging effects of the Princess ideal on young women. But now that it is convenient to use on a woman we don't like, it is okay to like princesses again.
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She did something besides look hot to snag William.
Must have. A handsome Prince of Wales pretty much has his pick of damn near all the women on the planet.
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A handsome Prince of Wales pretty much has his pick of damn near all the women on the planet.
And rightly so.
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She did something besides look hot to snag William.
DVDA with rotating members of the royal family.
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Oh, I was articulating the reasons I assumed women hate her, not the Jezzies. They just hate her because the Brits loved her butt, and apparently, according to them, it's nothing special.
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http://alteredidentity.com/tag/pippa-middleton/
Looks good to me.
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Me too.
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Except for it being an order of magnitude smaller than the average Jezebellian's.
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It were the running around in her skivvies at the wedding party and looking hot that did it. She's a princess-in-law AND blessed with a body good enough that people WANT her to get naked when drunk. Of course Jezebellians hate her. Whether she is actually the wild sister is interesting but not the point.
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I think you mean Angelina Bob Thornton.
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Final lesson from Jezebel: The quickest way to get Feminists to fight is to bring up vegetarianism/veganism
I think we may need even less than 5% of the male population.
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Oh, also, Jezebel has reached peak stupid:
I always find it amazing when people who claim to be 'feminists' support the dairy industry. Cows only produce milk after a recent pregnancy, so they are repeatedly impregnated and then have their calves taken away from them after birth, so that humans can consume the milk instead. And cows aren't 'mated' with bulls to produce pregnancy; they are tied to what is known as a "rape rack" and a human being does something so unspeakably evil to them that I won't even describe it here.
Make your investments accordingly.
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The funny thing there is that apparently this chick believes that bulls and cows experience romantic love.
In the absence of human management, the bulls would fight each other until the biggest badass bulls each had a harem, and then those winning bulls would rape their cows whenever they felt like it.
Fucking vegetarians apparently really believe that farm animals talk to each other in Babe voices and play house or something.
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And the weirdest thing is that a lot of the Jezzies have cats. Have they ever seen cats in heat?
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Their cats are all fixed.
Because apparently artificial insemination is too great a violation to even be described in writing, but gelding is pretty much A-OK.
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Its what they'd like to do to most men, so its consistant.
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Artificial insemnation is unspeakable, but I bet she'll talk your ear off about her vibrators.
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STEVE SMITH NOW MAKING PLANS TO BECOME FARMER!!!
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I can sell you rape-racks by the gross or singley. It's up to you, STEVE.
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The cow was not unresponsive...
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Has not "Dirty Jobs" shown everyone interested just what that "unspeakably evil" something is?
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On the new season of The Great Food Truck Race (yeah I will fess up to watching it) one of the trucks is a "Vegan Truck". All of the chicks in it are pretty hot, though not as hot as the Amerasian chicks on the Nom Nom truck last year. I usually pull for the truck with the better looking women to last. But once the head and best looking one opened her mouth and talked about how "they couldn't let the vegan community down", I started hoping their truck would burn down in a spectacular grease fire.
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As long as it's sustainably harvested, organic, cruelty-free grease, right?
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The devastation on the face of the gay dude on Nom Nom when the metalheads from Grill 'Em All won is probably the greatest moment in food competition history.
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It was. I can understand why the two women who owned the truck hired a gay dude. Any straight guy would have spent all of his time hitting on them and never done any work. And eventually one of them would have been sleeping with him and creating all kinds of havoc. Hiring the guy gay was a pretty smart move on their part.
They had a great business model. The reasonably hot chick and the gay guy did the cooking. And then the spectacularly hot chick went out and got dumb guys to follow her back to the truck like the pied piper. It was no accident they sold more food than any other truck at every stop in the race. It wasn't because their sandwiches were that good.
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It baffles the mind when women think men are difficult...I consider myself somewhat intelligent but put some tits in front of me and I will follow them off a cliff. PCU's scene where the feminazis discover this is exactly correct.
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Going to Grill 'Em All for lunch today.
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Well, like Pompey the Great, I like sure things.
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Sure things like Julius Caesar?
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“We need to recognize that the demand for a four-year liberal arts degree, while still great, is not inelastic. There will be a price point at which even the most affluent of families will question their investment; the sooner we are able to reduce our fee increases, the better.”
No kidding.
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And
Laura W. Perna, associate professor of education at the University of Pennsylvania, who has written extensively on college affordability issues, said that “from a market perspective, they don’t need to take this action. They have lots of applications and don’t need to reduce price to meet enrollment needs. But higher education should be listening to more than the market. They should be serving society and the public good, so I think this is a really important step.”
Blah, blah, blah, social justice, blah, blah.
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Actually, since most colleges were founded as nonprofit and in many cases explicitly religious institutions, this is one case where social justice or whatever you want to call it is a valid concern. Gee, maybe a charitable, tax exempt institution founded by a religious group like say the Quakers or the Jesuits, ought to think about something besides squeezing every last dime it possibly can out of their students.
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Nonprofit and social justice are not the same thing. One is a tax status provided for companies that seek to fill a void in the private sector and provide a service that might otherwise not be filled (the theory.) The other is a human rights movement that's been bastardized buy government to justify redistribution. Higher education is not a public good, it is excludable and rival based. As it should be.
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Then take away their non profit status. If Georgetown wants to exist for the purpose of spreading the jesuit ideal, great. But if they want to just become a corporation like any other charging as much as the market will bear, then they should no longer be considered a nonprofit.
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I wouldn't be apposed to removing 501c3 from the tax code period.
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There are plenty of provisions for corporate loss, and many small 501c3s post a loss. The guys that benefit are the larger Charities like United Way, who really are run like a corporations.
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I think the answer is not to tax corporations period. Just tax the income they pay to their employees.
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She's wrong. Note the premise that if the school listened only to the "market" it could hike tuition. What market? Its certainly not a free market.
Its a racket. If you want to talk about a market, eliminate every las penny of government subsidy.
She's also wrong as she propagates the myth that morals of the market place are inferior to the morals of the state.
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And of course she'd never admit that the many metric shitloads of free and cheap government cash that have been used to flood the education market has elicited any sort of market distortions.
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How else are you going to create the next generation of government leeches?
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Fluffy, just wait until you can. I can not do it justice at all. It is as big of a lesson in interneting as I've ever seen. Trolls, goalpost moving, sockpuppeting, troll-feeding, strawmen, confirmation bias, CAPITAL words, etc. Simply awesome. I was literally in awe.
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a human being does something so unspeakably evil to them that I won't even describe it here.
FISTS THEM.
You're welcome.
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lol, you have got to be kidding me right? Seriously? Bout time someone put these killers out of business once and for all.
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I welcome Obama's speech. It's one more step towards his total Carterization.
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Cardigans for EVERYONE!
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Well, the Commerce Clause does allow us to order everyone to buy a cardigan.
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True. Chilly people tend to get sick more often, impacting healthcare costs.
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Don't forget that people who wear cardigans are more likely to have college degrees. Therefore, the cardigan mandate will improve education in the US.
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What I didn't know about Rick Perry apparently reinforces what I already knew about Rick Perry: that Texas can keep him.
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Re: ClubMedSux,
What I didn't know about Rick Perry apparently reinforces what I already knew about Rick Perry: that Texas can keep him.
Well, you could have it worse - you could end up with B.O. again. -
Rick Perry plus a Republican Congress v. Barack Obama minus a Republican Congress.
Which is better?
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Hey, how bad is Perry in your opinion? I saw the Texas RLC's public announcement on how bad they thought he is.
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Don't have much use for him. A standard-issue so-con corpocrat.
Perhaps his only redeeming quality is that he doesn't seem to feel any need for bipartisanship or approval from the cultural/social elites.
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I sent the Texas RLC rant about Perry to H&R--maybe they'll do a post on him.
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In other news: FOX "News" still ignoring Ron Paul.
This morning on American Newsroom, Martha McCallum (hmmm!) wss discussing, along with Daily Caller editor Tucker Carlson, Perry's supposed "gaffes," specifically the one where he insinuated Ben Bernanke is committing treason.
Tucker mentioned that, in fact, the amount of negative attention Perry received helped him as it brought a new political point into the front: That of the Fed, which nobody yet had touched in this race.
Later, Tucker did mention that one of the issues that endears Paul to his supporters is his stance on the Fed... which makes me scratch my head:Didn't you and Martha said no more than 2 minutes ago that NOBODY had touched that subject in this race?
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It all makes perfect sense when you realize that, to people marinating in the Beltway, Ron Paul is a nobody.
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"Hinder me? Thou fool," scoffed Bernanke. "No living man may hinder me!"
It seemed that Dernhelm laughed, and the clear voice was like the ring of steel.
"But no living man am I! You look upon Ron Paul! Begone, if you be not deathless! For living or dark undead, I will smite you if you monetize the debt further!"
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It would be pretty amusing if Ron Paul became president and they still tried to ignore him.
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"It would be pretty amusing if Ron Paul became president and they still tried to ignore him."
Hey! A news blockout of DC happenings? I like it!
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"The results of the 2012 presidential election are in. Apparently there was no winner. Incumbent Barack Obama lost with only 17% of votes."
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From a link I posted above: Jack Cafferty talks about RP.
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It's not like Paul wrote a book on the subject or anything.
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Jodie Foster saves SETI. I eagerly await Contact II: Actual Alien Contact.
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Wow, she's really into that part, isn't she?
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On a somewhat related topic, ESA wants asteroid defense test mission.
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If they take the slightest significant step toward doing that, the Air Force will spend $10 billion to do it bigger. Maybe even better, if they can get another $10 billion.
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You mean $100 billion right?
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Whatever. Mere billions of dollars is so paltry a sum that it's beneath my notice.
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Just round it up to $1 trillion.
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Except they'd probably get two scale models from Lockheed for that $10B that don't fly and then scrap the project with about 5 minutes of total telemetry data to show for it.
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Better give it to SpaceX, then.
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Elon probably already has one on his 10 year business plan.
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Probably already saved the Earth.
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Contact II: Actual Alien Contact.
Sounds like tentacles will be involved.
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I don't know about that, but I hear they're using the writer from Lifeforce.
Actually, writer is the wrong word. I should've said choreographer.
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I'm pretty sure your version is already on the interwebz.
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It'd be great if Ron Paul just randomly showed up at Fox News and walked into the frame, gleefully pronouncing "Hey, Rep Ron Paul here, fellas! How's it hangin? with that wide smile? RAGE ensues.
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Those fucking mouth-breathing-baboons would beat him to gold bond powdery death, and then they would be heralded as heroes.
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He'd be carrying a Para USA, 16-round .40 S&W 1911 with a belt for magazines.
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If he's going to carry a 1911 frame, why not in the original .45? He doesn't really need 16 rounds per magazine if he can shoot.
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Because it's irritating as shit (if you're used to Rugers and the Berretta 92) to change every seven/eight rounds.
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Of course, if you can shoot even just a little bit, you won't NEED to change magazines with a 45 ACP.
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That's debatable. And this isn't a .45, it's a .40 variant. The .45 Para manufactures takes a 14-rounder.
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Pish. He's a Texan.
.45 ACP and a 16-round magazine. For the anchor shots. Its the only way to be sure.

