Katherine Mangu-Ward | September 28, 2009
Like bears to honey or zombies to brains, politicians
find something irresistible about soda taxes. President Obama
recently
told Men's Health magazine that he thinks a "sin tax" on soda
is "an idea that we should be exploring." San Francisco Mayor Gavin
Newsom
moved to impose a fee on stores for selling sugary drinks, only
to admit that his plan was probably illegal. In December, New York
Gov. David Paterson proposed a 18 percent tax on full-sugar soda to
help cover a budget shortfall. After a public outcry, he
claimed he was just raising awareness about childhood obesity.
In Sunday's Washington Post Senior Editor Katherine
Mangu-Ward debunks five myths about soda taxes.
Help Reason celebrate its next 40 years. Donate Now!
Try Reason's award-winning print edition today! Your first issue is FREE if you are not completely satisfied.
Or maybe it's just a policy so mind-numbingly stupid that it distracts from the communism.
Let's assume their arguments are all right for a second and
these taxes will really discourage behavior...
Then what would taxes on businesses do?
Discourage business?
How about taxes on income?
If I were a cash-hungry bureaucrat, I'd charge an administrative fee to taxpayers for processing taxes. Say 2-5%, depending on the complexity of the return.
I'm much more in favor of a 50% tax on clothing items over
$30.
I call it the dumb bitch tax.
I'm all for it. I'd much rather get busted smuggling boat load of tax-free coke from south America. As opposed to smuggling a boat load of coke that should be taxed.
"So soda does help people pack on the pounds. But so does
absolutely everything everyone eats."
Can I take you order - "yes, I'll have a double cheeseburger,
supersize fries and a diet coke. Have to watch the weight you
know"
I'd like to impose a deposit fee on cigarette butts.
You'd pay something like a quarter per heater when you bought a
pack. However, you could get it back if you brought the butt back
after you were done smoking.
1) It would stop assholes from flipping the butt out their car
window forcing me to honk at them and give them the bird.
2) It would be the start of the Golden Years for the hobos. Think
of all the money laying out there on our streets that they could
pick up and use to buy health care (what else would they spend it
on?).
3) I'd love to see how many stores would immediately stop selling
smokes if they were forced to pick through bags of butts so they
could pay the deposit back.
Of course, I have to admit that I would never actually try to pass
something like that because I couldn't meet with the press and
pretend that policing cigarette butts is a valid function of the
gubbment.
Katherine, did you actually look at the graph referenced in point #2? It actually shows per capita consumption more than doubling during the time frame mentioned! Is this dishonesty, laziness, or blindness? Enquiring minds want to know!
If soda is the "new tobacco", simply make it illegal to buy/use
soda if under 16yo.
And Jimbo, I second that idea.
Can I take you order - "yes, I'll have a double
cheeseburger, supersize fries and a diet coke. Have to watch the
weight you know"
Here.
Can I take you order - "yes, I'll have a double cheeseburger, supersize fries and a diet coke. Have to watch the weight you know"
Whaddya think
this is, some kind of joke? I want ten Big Macs and a small Diet
Coke.
Michael Jacobson of the Center for Science in the Public Interest tore into a 2004 scientific research report that kicked off anti-corn-syrup hysteria...
If the professional hysteria mongers at CSPI won't bite, you know
your cause is lost.
...or they've been paid off by the Corn Council
Katherine, did you actually look at the graph referenced in
point #2? It actually shows per capita consumption more than
doubling during the time frame mentioned! Is this dishonesty,
laziness, or blindness? Enquiring minds want to know!
Actually, consumption increased until about 1999, then has slightly
decreased since then. The first graph stops at 1990. So the amount
of soda drunk has not increased in the past ten years. FWIW
You know, there's no point in even discussing the health-related
issues of soda, because that is not at all the reason politicians
want to tax soda so bad.
The real motive is simple: money. They know that even with
increased taxation, we will still keep buying soda. Hell, they'd
probably have to charge a 200% tax before you'd even start to see a
minor drop in soda sales. A soda tax is a guaranteed money maker
for the government.
Caffeine from soda keeps my migraines at bay.
Or would the government prefer I stop drinking soda and have their
soon-to-be socialized health care system pay for me to go on
Imitrex?
Re: Mike in PA
Then what would taxes on businesses do?
Discourage business?
How about taxes on income?
Yes, on both - but our wise overseers do not say these taxes
discourage business or better earnings. No, they would say these
foment GROWTH(!)
"But the hazards of cheap corn sweetener are the stuff of
pseudo-scientific legend. New York University nutritionist Marion
Nestle, a major proponent of soda taxes, has said of corn syrup:
"It's basically no different from table sugar. . . . The body can't
tell them apart."
You can't really cite a nutritionist as the antidote to
pseudo-science since nutritionism is simply an ideology or, more
charitably, a field of study. Sure, it now has the gravitas of an
actual science, thanks to the government's adoption of it as a way
to govern our "daily recommendations." That doesn't make it a
science.
Yes, the taxation of soda is silly and should be mocked. The more
intellectually honest subject of mockery here is the
double-taxation involved in the creation and consumption of
high-fructose corn syrup. Through subsidies, we're already paying
for corn, which yields the main ingredient of the Coke we would,
under soda taxes, be punished for then drinking.
RuthenianCowboy,
But it's an additive. It's easier to stop adding it than introduce
a new regulatory framework. But you can get caffeine pills
separately, and there are other things that have it in there
naturally.
Site comments/questions:
Media Inquiries and Reprint Permissions:
(310) 367-6109
Editorial & Production Offices:
3415 S. Sepulveda Blvd.
Suite 400
Los Angeles, CA 90034
(310) 391-2245