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Obama Losing His Cool?

The Associated Press has an anecdote-based story out about how "Tough political realities quiet youth 'Obamamania.'" Sample:

"It's one thing to get excited about a presidential candidate. It's another thing to become a responsible citizen," says Jennifer Donahue, political director for the New Hampshire Institute Of Politics. She and other political analysts thinks they have yet to prove themselves.

Professors and students themselves also are noticing the quiet on college campuses, which were hotbeds for "Obamamania" during the campaign.

"They're supportive, but in a bystander kind of way," says Laura Katz Olson, a political science professor at Lehigh University in Pennsylvania. [...]

An AP-GfK poll conducted earlier this month found that two-thirds of 18- to 29-year-olds rated such reform as "very" or "extremely" important. So far, though, the proposed health care overhauls have failed win the support of a good number of them. Only about half of them said they approved of the way the president was handling health care and only 38 percent said they supported health care plans being discussed in Congress.

Not sure I find this convincing, though I did predict it.

Link via Instapundit.

|9.24.09 @ 10:09AM|

Next year (which is only a few months off) Congress will be in full speed ahead election mode. Obama is getting close to being out of time on most of his major policy efforts. The bailouts may have just spiked them.

I wonder what will happen if Obama loses to say Romney (is he the Republican frontrunner right now?) in 2012?

Old Bull Lee|9.24.09 @ 10:10AM|

I find it hilarious. Hopefully they learned something from their disappointment and it will change the way they think about politicians in the future.

|9.24.09 @ 10:16AM|

Hopefully they learned something from their disappointment and it will change the way they think about politicians in the future.

That is some bitter sarcasm for this early in the morning. Like burnt coffee on the tongue, it is.

|9.24.09 @ 10:21AM|

So far, though, the proposed health care overhauls have failed win the support of a good number of them.

I wonder if this could have anything to do with the uncomfortable realization that the Ascended One wants to stick his hand deep into their pockets and coerce them into subsidizing the old folks (again).

|9.24.09 @ 10:24AM|

What, you mean young people are shallow, easily distracted and rarely if ever commit to the hard work that goes along with actually changing things? I am shocked. Considering that when youth really do get involved in something long term it usually results in things like the Reign of Terror, the Third Reich, the Cultural Revolution and the Khmer Rouge, I for one am very happy to hear American youth are still as callow and easily distracted as they ever were.

|9.24.09 @ 10:26AM|

I hope you shook your cane after that, John. :-)

|9.24.09 @ 10:28AM|

Yes I did. And they need to get off my lawn to.

|9.24.09 @ 10:29AM|

Just don't say they are behaving like teenagers.

|9.24.09 @ 10:31AM|

I wonder how many of those who have cooled on "Obamamania" because he hasnt been liberal enough for them?

Does the health care overhaul have a 62% disapproval amongst this group because they demand nothing short of a single payer system?

Look I am all for Obama's popularity slipping and people being exposed to the fact that he is not only woefully under-qualified to be President but that his ideas are wrong for America but not all disapproval comes from the same perspective.

|9.24.09 @ 10:32AM|

I don't know about the rest of you but when I was 6 or so, I lived next to an old man that literally would yell at me to get out of his yard. Totally my fault. His yard was a shortcut to my friends up the street.

He's dead now.

Barney Rubble|9.24.09 @ 10:40AM|

SFree-

Dead from your hand? Is he buried in a basement somewhere?

BR

Cabeza de Vaca|9.24.09 @ 10:41AM|

SF,

You started killing people at age 6. No wonder you became a libertarian. You couldn't get past your sociopathic self regard.

Barack Oh Bomb Us|9.24.09 @ 10:41AM|

Dear Reason,

Your server has been fucked up for 2 days.

Fix it.

That is all.

|9.24.09 @ 10:42AM|

Matt,

This is the internet; the question is, is Obama loosing his cool.

|9.24.09 @ 10:45AM|

Whenever my Obamatron friends start their regurgitations about what "we need to do" or "they (whomever they mean by they) should do", I simply ask them if they contribute their own time or money to an existing charity relevant to their cause du jour. Why wait for da gummint? Charities exist RIGHT NOW if they're so hellfire intent on changing the world.

robc </|9.24.09 @ 10:47AM|

Its been a lot longer than two days

|9.24.09 @ 10:50AM|

plisade,

Health insurance for a reasonably healthy person can't be more than a few hundred dollars a month. That isn't much money for many upper middle class and wealthy Obama supporters. If they think not having insurance is such a horror, then why not go out and buy health insurance for some poor uninsured person? It could be like those old "adopt a starving child" programs.

|9.24.09 @ 10:54AM|

As always, the devil is in the details.

Obama and the Dems would hve been better advised to attack the health care "crisis" piecemeal. Getting real changes to the system without overturning so much that actually works would have made garnering the necessary majorities in congress easier.

Raising the income threshold for medicare by 10% while simultaneously reducing the earned income tax credit payments by a like amount would have increased the number of insured without busting the budget. It would also have been easier to limit the horse trading and speciaql interest boondoggles that always accompany a massive bill.

Similarly, repealing the McCarran-Ferguson Act would allow many to purchase bare bones coverage that is currently prohibited in their state. Probably doable and certainly defensible for both Dems and GOPers. The health insurance companies and state regulataory bureaucrats would be the big losers, neither goroup has huge public support.

I think more people are watching the sausage being made* and finding the end product a lot less enticing as a result.

* The operative word here is think. I could be wrong on this (but I doubt it).

|9.24.09 @ 10:57AM|

Please insert

The lesson from the failure of Hillary care ignored was you try to do too much and you step on too many toes.

somewhere in my previous.

Salamat.

The Emperor has no Shuka|9.24.09 @ 11:00AM|

"The lesson from the failure of Hillary care ignored was you try to do too much and you step on too many toes."

I am the Lizard King.
I can do anything.

The Emperor has no Shuka|9.24.09 @ 11:05AM|

"Cool" is code for blackness.

RACIST!

|9.24.09 @ 11:07AM|

Nutrasweet Bonner, aka Aspartame the Kid -

There was one of those in my neighborhood as well. He had grown his lawn from seed and was quite proud of it. The neighborhood kids used the street for baseball and touch football regularly and invariably trespassed on the poor guys lawn.

We didn't kill him though.

Team Blue|9.24.09 @ 11:08AM|

It's all your fault. You people are hoping hard enough!

|9.24.09 @ 11:09AM|

"We didn't kill him though."

That is because you were weak.

|9.24.09 @ 11:09AM|

Cabeza de Vaca,

And SugarFree's raw, libertarian lust for personal gain. Don't forget that.

|9.24.09 @ 11:12AM|

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aqMTD5UFmU


link above


Those kids still like him. Apparently the teacher does too.

Art-P.O.G.|9.24.09 @ 11:13AM|

"Cool" is code for blackness.

No, "menthol" is code for blackness.

Ryan M|9.24.09 @ 11:15AM|

In regards to Seward's comment, I think 2012 is going to be the first election in a veeeeeeeeery long time that a 3rd party candidate has a shot. If we can remind the people of how things were with Bush, and they have a fresh memory of how this are with Obama, they might be willing to try something else. Even if the 3rd party candidate loses (as they most likely will), it will put them on the map as a serious contender.

|9.24.09 @ 11:18AM|

Obama was never "cool". Being "inspirational" and "hopeful" isn't "cool". He was an object of worship; a vessel within which all the retards put faith and empty promises. People don't think that their various cult leaders are cool, they think they are practically demigods. There's a big difference. Obama is losing the infallibility shine that he had, and that's what is turning the worshiping kids off.

It's like if Christians found out that Jesus didn't turn water into wine--it would strip away some of the magic.

Ska|9.24.09 @ 11:24AM|

Even if the 3rd party candidate loses (as they most likely will), it will put them on the map as a serious contender.

Hard to believe Perot nabbed nearly 20% of the popular vote in 92.

|9.24.09 @ 11:28AM|

SugarFree's raw, libertarian lust for personal gain

I hope this means he sold the old man's organs on the black market.

WWJGD|9.24.09 @ 11:32AM|

I hope this means he sold the old man's organs on the free market.

Fixed it for you. No black markets. Everything is legal to sell, even slaves. Remember?

|9.24.09 @ 11:35AM|

I spared his life. The ravages of old age are crueler than anything I can think of.

But I do have a raw, libertarian lust for personal gain. That's why I work as a photographic archivist. But my greed will overtake me one day and I have to move on the greener pastures of gas station attendant or grade school janitor to make some real money at last.

|9.24.09 @ 11:36AM|

Ska: Exactly, and got Clinton elected with a 43% plurality. (I remember that number because shortly afterward, he was referring to the 43 Republicans then in the Senate as an "obstructionist minority." Irony!) I'm sure Obama would love to see a third party do well in 2012, because it will split the anti-Obama vote.

WWJGD|9.24.09 @ 11:36AM|

"Raw, libertarian lust for personal gain" would be a great tagline for a porno. I need potential titles, people.

Wicks Cherrycoke|9.24.09 @ 11:39AM|

I liked this quote tho:

'"It's one thing to get excited about a presidential candidate. It's another thing to become a responsible citizen," says Jennifer Donahue, political director for the New Hampshire Institute Of Politics. She and other political analysts thinks they have yet to prove themselves.'"

Note the point: It's not that Obama is losing young supporters, or that they are justified in becoming less enthusiatic about him. It's that the young are not "responsible" enough to stand by him. Geez.

Ska|9.24.09 @ 11:41AM|

But how many people have a monocle/moustache wax fetish?

|9.24.09 @ 11:44AM|

Atlas Pegged
The Yougivenmehead
The Ultrasexibility Broach
The Giant Penises of Grabbymede
The Painbow Sexdenza
Going Deep Into Skye
We The Horny

|9.24.09 @ 11:46AM|

I think NutraSweet is going to go rub one out in the archive closet now.

WWJGD|9.24.09 @ 11:46AM|

I can't remember the number (Rule 47?), but everything is a fetish. There's always a market.

WWJGD|9.24.09 @ 11:48AM|

We The Horny is my current personal favorite. Just time to head to a coast and throw out a casting call.

The Emperor has no Shuka|9.24.09 @ 11:50AM|

""Raw, libertarian lust for personal gain" would be a great tagline for a porno. I need potential titles, people"

Ann Randy?

The Emperor has no Shuka|9.24.09 @ 11:51AM|

Better with punctuation:

Ann...Randy!

WWJGD|9.24.09 @ 11:52AM|

The female lead practically writes itself, as The Emperor points out. This has potential.

|9.24.09 @ 11:52AM|

"Atlas Goes Around the World"

|9.24.09 @ 11:53AM|

Or...

Ann? Randy!

The Emperor has no Shuka|9.24.09 @ 11:53AM|

Atlas Shagged?

The Emperor has no Shuka|9.24.09 @ 11:54AM|

Though it sounds kinda gay.

NTTAWWT

The Ghost of the Old Man|9.24.09 @ 11:55AM|

The ravages of old age are crueler than anything I can think of.

Yes, but at least you little whippersnapper is out of my yard. [Laughs bitterly.]



Aren't you?

WWJGD|9.24.09 @ 11:56AM|

It needs a "collectivist" scene. And by that I mean gangbang.

WWJGD|9.24.09 @ 11:57AM|

"NTTAWWT"

You lost me. I need deciphering help.

Janeane Garafolo|9.24.09 @ 11:59AM|

"Obama Losing His Cool?"

It pains me no end to realize how racist our youth are becoming.

|9.24.09 @ 12:01PM|

The Road to Slutdom
The Cunnilingust Papers
Comin' Sense
The Declaration of Rear Entrance
Free to Sleaze
Ain't Nobody's Business Who You Do
Humpin' Action
The Wealth of Bosoms

WWJGD|9.24.09 @ 12:03PM|

I've got to write all these down. This stuff is priceless. New career path, ho!

Ska|9.24.09 @ 12:07PM|

Reardon Steel doesn't even need a name change!

The Ghost of Rodney Dangerfiel|9.24.09 @ 12:09PM|

I've got to write all these down. This stuff is priceless.

No respect at all.

|9.24.09 @ 12:11PM|

Yeah it does: Rear-End Steel.

|9.24.09 @ 12:12PM|

"Rock Hard; Drillin' Down at the Quarry."

comrade|9.24.09 @ 12:13PM|

Laissez-fuck?

Joe M|9.24.09 @ 12:14PM|

...on the black market.

Racist!

¢|9.24.09 @ 12:16PM|

I'm sure Obama would love to see a third party do well in 2012, because it will split the anti-Obama vote.

I'm sure he'd prefer that the Republicans puke out another McCain type, to split the anti-Obama bloc into voters and non-voters, just like last in '08, without making "split anti-Obama vote" an obvious take on the results.

¢|9.24.09 @ 12:17PM|

That superfluous "last" is racist.

J_B|9.24.09 @ 12:18PM|

I wonder what will happen if Obama loses to say Romney (is he the Republican frontrunner right now?) in 2012?

Romney and his supporters, along with the rest of the country, will be deemed racists.

Ska|9.24.09 @ 12:20PM|

The Road to Slutdom

I propose the alternate Road to Squirtdom.

|9.24.09 @ 12:21PM|

Atlas Fugged (nod to Norman Mailer).

|9.24.09 @ 12:22PM|

Freedom to Splooge

comrade|9.24.09 @ 12:30PM|

Romney and his supporters, along with the rest of the country, will be deemed racists.



Perhaps they'll run "Rock '12" or "Cent '12".

50 Cent as president would be amusing.

|9.24.09 @ 12:31PM|

Buttarchy, Prostate, and Asstopia

|9.24.09 @ 12:31PM|

The Moon is a Harsh Mistress.

|9.24.09 @ 12:32PM|

"The Inexorable Thrust Toward Freedom"

|9.24.09 @ 12:33PM|

"Hot Anarchic Nights"

|9.24.09 @ 12:42PM|

The problem with the young:
Recently a friend and his 8 year old visited Baltimore and I spent the day with them. It was the young lad's first exposure to pan-handlers, and he thought giving them money was the right thing to do. So I gave the 8 year old 10 bucks, and told him he could keep all of it, give a portion or all of it away.
answer tomorrow.

Craig|9.24.09 @ 12:43PM|

What cool? He's always seemed kind of dorky to me.

Urkobold&trade;|9.24.09 @ 12:47PM|

UNCLE TOM'S STABBIN' CABIN

WWJGD|9.24.09 @ 1:05PM|

Still need some good male actors names!

|9.24.09 @ 1:25PM|

39% approval rating by the end of the year.

""" I think 2012 is going to be the first election in a veeeeeeeeery long time that a 3rd party candidate has a shot."""

I've been hearing that for years. The majority of Americans are too caught up in their left, right, us vs. them mindset. Both teams often use the if you're not for X, then you're for Y arguement. They can't let the rise of a third party, it will confuse them. ;-)

Art-P.O.G.|9.24.09 @ 1:28PM|

Murray Rockhard

|9.24.09 @ 1:30PM|

Salma Hayek.

|9.24.09 @ 1:31PM|

Melvin Purvis (G-spot Man)

MattXIV|9.24.09 @ 1:34PM|

On (and In) Liberty
The Candlemakers' Penentration
Economic Orgasisms
Ho Treason

Art-P.O.G.|9.24.09 @ 1:35PM|

Damn, someone already did that one.

iamse7en|9.24.09 @ 1:39PM|

test

test


test
test

What else is there? Can I do hyperlinks? What's the < tag > for that?

Art-P.O.G.|9.24.09 @ 1:40PM|

Michael Badderdick

The Emperor has no Shuka|9.24.09 @ 2:02PM|

Napoleon Blew my Bone Apart

|9.24.09 @ 2:09PM|

We the Licking

WWJGD|9.24.09 @ 2:13PM|

We the Licking

We'll save that for the lesbian spin-off

|9.24.09 @ 2:13PM|

What else is there? Can I do hyperlinks? What's the < tag > for that?

http://www.pageresource.com/html/newwin.htm

Hyperlink opening in new window at this that site. I just google "html open new window" every time I need to use it. Then cut n paste.

|9.24.09 @ 2:13PM|

TEXT

|9.24.09 @ 2:14PM|

Dammit! You used to be able to post the code if you used HTML code for the less-than and greater-than symbols. Crap.

The Angry Optimist|9.24.09 @ 3:18PM|

Hyperlinks (take out spaces):

< a href= "link" > text < /a >

iamse7en|9.24.09 @ 3:44PM|

Thanks.

Tony|9.24.09 @ 3:58PM|

Most of Obama's base support a single-payer model.

Michael Ejercito|9.24.09 @ 8:54PM|

Does anyone remember when Obama conspired with the Chicago Tribune and a corrupt judge to release the sealed divorce records of his opponent in the U.S. Senate race?

The Libertarian Guy|9.25.09 @ 10:28AM|

All Your Ass Are Belong to Base?

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