Brian Doherty | September 21, 2009
A special state commission, the Commission on the 21st Century Economy, has come out with a set of radical proposals to reshape California's tax system, including getting rid of the sales tax. Various state politicians and special interest groups have already declared the ideas dead in the water. The heart of the proposals, from an L.A. Times account:
Under the plan, the state's current half-dozen income tax rates would be replaced by two -- 2.75% for those making up to $56,000 a year and 6.5% for those earning more. Sales and corporate taxes would be replaced by a single new business levy that would spread the burden -- at a tax rate of about 4% -- more broadly and would include service professions.
More details and background on this tax reform proposal, and the reasons it was seen as necessary, from me at my California news and politics blog "City of Angles."
Matt Welch in May on how the real problem with California state revenue is and remains insane spending levels.
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Matt Welch in May on how the real problem with California
state revenue is and remains insane spending levels.
True dat.
But this proposal of replacing everything with a few "flat taxes"
and a one-step income tax deceptively appears to be a move in the
right direction, on the tax end.
The only thing with the one-step income tax is it sucks if you
happen to make between $56,001 and $58,246 (especially if you
happen to make exactly $58,246, in which case your take-home is the
same as somebody else who netted $56,000). I would think some sort
of phasing in would be appropriate.
Of course, this will never happen so debating the nuances is kind
of pointless, I guess...
Various state politicians and special interest groups have already declared the ideas dead in the water.
Well duh! The proposal doesn't allow for the current insane
spending levels, so of course the whining class doesn't like
it.
Sales and corporate taxes would be replaced by a single new
business levy that would spread the burden -- at a tax rate of
about 4% -- more broadly and would include service
professions.
Do you mean 'a new business levy of 4%'? Because that sounds like a
tax. Or do you mean 'a levy on new businesses of 4%'? Because that
sounds like crony capitalism. Typical entrench the establishment by
punishing those that would challenge it.
California - proof positive that Liberals don't have the brains
required to manage the bank book. Nuff Said :P
Grrrrrr!
The only thing with the one-step income tax is it sucks if you happen to make between $56,001 and $58,246 (especially if you happen to make exactly $58,246, in which case your take-home is the same as somebody else who netted $56,000). I would think some sort of phasing in would be appropriate.
Huh? I think we can assume these are marginal tax rates, like in
any discussion of income tax rates. Sales taxes are fairly
efficient; if California has the nation's highest sales tax now but
the percentage of California's tax receipts from the sales tax has
fallen dramatically (from 60% to 25%), then it's obvious that
California is spending too much, as Matt says.
From the description, are they talking about some kind of
VAT?
Great. So California opts to get rid of the one tax that makes
sense on several levels. California should be dropping every
other tax and leaving the sales tax.
Oh yeah, and quit spending like teenage girls with Dad's credit
card would help.
Sales and corporate taxes would be replaced by a single new
business levy that would spread the burden -- at a tax rate of
about 4% -- more broadly and would include service
professions.
I have been coming, lately, to believe a "gross receipts" tax (with
no targetted incentives/deductions or other social engineering
distortions) is probably the best we could do.
As a self-employed individual filing Schedule C, I could easily be
induced to pay four per cent on my gross, rather than going through
a lot of gyrations regarding business expenses.
I do not, (yay!) live in California.
This 4.8% gross receipts tax would be paid by businesses and
passed on to the consumer in the form of higher prices.
The benefit to the state is that the sales tax would not appear on
customers receipt giving us one less thing to gripe about.
And, yeah the state needs to spend less.
Maybe this proposal could be packaged with a balanced budget
amendment to the State Constitution.
I crack myself up.
6.5% to the fucking state?
Right now it's a marginal 9.3% to the state for single-filers
earning above $44,814.
If you earn over $1 million, you are whacked with 10.3% to pay for
Proposition 63 mental health programs.
income tax rates would be replaced by two -- 2.75% for those
making up to $56,000 a year and 6.5% for those earning
more.
How about we try this at the national level?
Argh... I wish California would consider that about 90% of their policy is designed to drive businesses & jobs away from this stupid place. The recent increase in sales tax up to 9.75% in Los Angeles is really rather painful.
As a self-employed individual filing Schedule C, I could
easily be induced to pay four per cent on my gross
What if you're like a lot of businesses, with an 8-12% gross
margin. A 4% gross receipts tax is more like a 33-50% income tax.
It's insanely high. I hate gross receipts taxes generally, but if
you're going to have one, it should be in the 0.5% range.
While we're at it, why not conform California's taxes to the
Federal system? It's a pain in the butt (not to mention a waste of
money) to keep two different sets of books because California's tax
rules on things like depreciation, AMT, and so forth differ from
the Federal system.
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What was per capita spending in California in 1998?
What is it today?
Spending is definitely the problem. Everything else is just
rearranging the deck chairs.
And yo, fuck extending the tax to services. Doesn't matter the
rhetoric they use, that's a flat out tax increase.
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