Jacob Sullum | August 14, 2009
"Since when is the
U.S. government in the business of distributing marijuana
cigarettes?" Rachel Ehrenfeld
asks in a Forbes.com commentary. "Is this part of the health
care programs the Obama administration is so keen to enforce?" The
short answers: 1) since 1978 and 2) no. Based on nothing more than
a
solicitation for proposals from the National Institute on Drug
Abuse seeking contractors to produce and distribute "marijuana
cigarettes," Ehrenfeld concludes, in a piece headlined "ObamaCare's
Medical Marijuana," that the president's vision of health care,
thanks to the influence of George Soros (I swear, that's what she
says), includes free joints for everybody. Or something like
that:
The evidence about the harm caused by marijuana to the individual user and society is overwhelming. Yet the government is now moving for large production and distribution of marijuana. If this is part of the ObamaCare project, it would surely cause the opposite of what it is purporting to do.
This may be the only good thing I've heard about Obama's health care reforms so far. Alas, it is all a figment of Ehrenfeld's drug-fueled imagination. Since 1978 NIDA has been providing government-approved joints, made from marijuana grown at the University of Mississippi, to a few select patients under the Compassionate Investigational New Drug Program. The first patient to receive Uncle Sam's pot was Robert Randall, who won a federal lawsuit demanding access to marijuana for treating his glaucoma. (A separate lawsuit by Randall, seeking the reclassification of marijuana so it can be prescribed by doctors, led to a 1987 ruling in which the DEA's chief administrative law judge called marijuana "one the safest therapeutically active substances known to man.") At its peak, the compassionate IND program (which in theory was a set of one-subject studies) served about a dozen patients. In 1992, spooked by a flood of requests from AIDS patients, the Bush administration closed the program to new applicants but continued to serve those already enrolled. Today just a few patients—four as of May 2008, according to the Marijuana Policy Project—continue to receive NIDA joints.
Given the tiny size of the remaining program, most of the marijuana cigarettes that triggered Ehrenfeld's pot allergy are probably destined for research. Since the research is sponsored by NIDA, Ehrenfeld will be relieved to hear, it will no doubt focus on marijuana's dangers, as opposed to its medical utility.
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Rush Limbaugh's call to the barricades:
"[Obama] is sending out his brownshirts to head up opposition to
genuine American citizens who want no part of what Barack Obama
stands for and is trying to stuff down our throats. Adolf Hitler,
like Barack Obama, also ruled by dictate."
I had a friend in Mississippi in '81 that was getting government joints. I don't remember why. I do recall that they were Huge and the dope was very very good. He was sent a helluva lot more than he, a heavy smoker, could possibly smoke alone and was kind enough to share. Them folks at Ole Miss could sure grow some righteous shit back then.
The evidence about the harm caused by marijuana to the
individual user and society is overwhelming.
If by "harm" you mean benefit, then yeah.
Penn & Teller covered this program on Bullshit's!
episode on the drug war, and interviewed one of the guys still on
it, who showed them the canister of joints he receives every month
(?). They also showed him smoking a joint, legally, in front of the
White House.
Weren't you interviewed in that episode, Jacob?
The evidence about the harm caused by marijuana to the
individual user and society is overwhelming.
Rachel Ehrenfeld: courageous (if unsolicited) defender of both
individuals other than herself and society! How does she
do it while keeping that stylish 'do intact?
BARRY-O SMOKE FUNNY FUNNY
SICK MAN SMOKE SAD SAD GO CAGE NO BANANA
the canister of joints he receives every month
In one of my classes, they brought in one of those canisters. They
have very official-looking labels and everything. Can't remember if
the guest speaker was one of the patients, or just a lawyer who had
represented them.
Whoever it was did say that the gubmint can't grow weed for
shit.
This may be the only good thing I've heard about Obama's
health care reforms so far.
/agree
Alas, it is all a figment of Ehrenfeld's drug-fueled
imagination
It's an odd debate where the truly drug-addled are the ones against
drugs. But here we are.
The evidence about the harm caused by marijuana to the individual ... is overwhelming
If said marijuana is in 500-lbs. bales and dropped from a height of
20 feet.
If by "harm" you mean benefit, then yeah.
Heh. And notice how said "evidence" is never, y'know, evidenced--or
when it is, it consists merely of bald-faced lies that any
reasonably diligent sixth-grader could refute.
I see this chick also wrote something called "Funding Evil: How
Terrorism is Financed and How to Stop It". I think the "American
Center for Democracy" (what a wonderfully nebulous name that is!)
could do its part to stop "funding evil" by not giving her any more
paychecks.
most of the marijuana cigarettes that triggered Ehrenfeld's
pot allergy are probably destined for research.
Now you've got my attention.
RE: "The evidence about the harm caused by marijuana to the
individual user and society is overwhelming."
Actually, the harms are quite limited. But by keeping marijuana
illegal, we are steering adults toward a far more harmful substance
-- alcohol. He should read the new book, "Marijuana is Safer: So
Why Are We Driving People to Drink?" Here is a link to the
book:
http://tinyurl.com/lub5yl
Since Obama insulted the millions of americans who submitted a question to him about legalizing marijuana by saying they were all drug-addled brain-damaged morons not to be taken seriously, anyone who thinks Obama will take even the slightest step towards decriminalization is a fucking moron.
Californians: Tell your legislators in Sacramento to legalize marijuana for adults. Visit yes390.org
Jacob:
There is a big difference between making a liberty argument for the
legalization of marijuana ... and promoting government distribution
of said marijuana.
The first is certainly libertarian. The second is ... well, it's
not libertarian.
The evidence about the harm caused by marijuana to the
individual user and society is overwhelming
Rachel Ehrenfeld has apparently smoked herself retarded.
Them folks at Ole Miss could sure grow some righteous shit
back then.
Back in the 80's they did. But then when Bush Sr. put the kibosh on
the program they started delivering ditch weed. The guys still on
the program now have to smoke a pack a day just to get a single
fatty's worth of medicine. I'd love to see a law suit over how the
government is forcing them to smoke to much by giving them shitty
weed.
Another excellent job by Reason! Libertarians have their heads screwed on tight, but it might be helpful if they'd learn what effective looks like.
It's funny ... so many of my younger friends and co-workers
(ages 18-28) seem to think that weed will be legalized while Obama
is in office. I am 35, and now thoroughly skeptical of it ever
happening.
I have to remind them that I had the same burgeoning hope when I
was their age in Clinton's first term, and was gently told by my
older and wiser friends that I may have to wait until about 2050
for that to happen.
Yep, put down that joint and pick up a fifth of Jack Daniels. Alcohol is a much safer alternative to cannabis. Ask any law enforcement officer. Don't forget to pick up some cigarettes on the way out. See, there are always alternatives to illegal drugs.
"Barry-O the ASL Ape (transcribed) | August 14, 2009, 1:19pm |
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BARRY-O SMOKE FUNNY FUNNY
SICK MAN SMOKE SAD SAD GO CAGE NO BANANA"
These are great!
At least Obama has the NIDA receiving proposals for cannabis
made with a so-called good manufacturing process or GMP.
People might misunderstand what GMP is for cannabis, but it has
been clearly established by Canadian and Dutch medical cannabis
trials that medicinal-grade cannabis must be exposed to gamma
radiation prior to running trials. This is to negate the effect of
(often unseen) microbial infestations within an otherwise perfectly
usable sample.
I realize that this is nowhere close to a total win, but the gamma
radiation practice will likely render other dubious study
conclusions invalid. In particular, dubious conclusions that
attempt to associate cannabis itself with respiratory problems such
as COPD. If anything, major respiratory problems are due to the
mold, mildew, and other biological contaminants present in the
illegal cannabis long used by study participants. It doesn't take
much scientific study to conclude that smoking powdery mildew is
going to cause problems.
Food companies not irradiating food of questionable source is a
completely different topic. I know that any sort of government
regulation forcing irradiation would be a bad idea, but the
practice is still largely misunderstood by the public and nobody
talking about it is not helping things.
"Californians: Tell your legislators in Sacramento to legalize
marijuana for adults. Visit yes390.org"
An Assembly Bill? Please. This is California, the direct democracy
state. If it's not an Initiative Constitutional Amendment, it's
barely a law. Come back when you're serious.
"But at this point, I'd be in favor of legalization.
I wouldn't encourage anybody to smoke any substances. But I don't
think it should be stigmatized as an illegal substance. Tobacco
smoking causes far more harm. And in terms of an intoxicant,
alcohol causes far more harm."
~ Donald Tashkin,
(NIDA) National Institute on Drug Abuse
Do these some drug worriers ever consider the Americans they
torture each day. The most vulnerable, the elderly and those
suffering with debilitating diseases. Running through their bank
accounts paying for every pill thrown at them and finding relief
with a simple plant they can grow with their herbs and flowers.
Each day wondering if some zealot will write an article demonizing
them as terrorists or hurting kids or will they fall victim to some
super cop saving the world in renegade fashion. Or a judge roy bean
or a DA climbing the political ladder needing that tough on crime
for the resume. Terrorists.
10 years ago I would have forgiven these yellow journalists out of
censorship and justified ignorance. Maybe they could have claimed
they didn't know. Only a few books were out and magazines catering
to the stoner crowds. Most seemed to have settled on Reagan's lies
stacked upon Nixon's lies and omissions, falsely classifying
cannabis including medicinal and Hemp never included in the 1937
Tax Act. Overturned in 1969 as being unConstitutional. Ford
covering up tumor research was never "programmed" into the 6
o'clock news. So now Teddy Kennedy has one less potential weapon
against his own dilemma. But since then we have an internet with
information, news articles that can not be buried in-between fluff.
No excuses and no ConPromises. Stop the gossip. 5000 years of
medicinal use and even longer doing the initial "testing" throwing
buds onto hot rocks inside of domed tapestries. Then hookahs and
chiloms and incense in all of the ancient temples, did the prophets
inhale?
Comparing chemical cigarettes to organic tobacco is comparing two
entirely different substances. Thousands of years of tobacco use by
Natives, Turkish, Egyptians, English and Early Americans finds no
extraordinary death-rates. Not until the very same fossil fuel
chemical corporations started adulterating the tobacco with very
harmful substances, never mentioned by the drug worriers. For your
smoking pleasure as Ronnie would get paid to say. No comparison.
And therefore no comparison to organic cannabis. Maybe that's why
we have thousands of "cigarette" deaths and still can't find that
Ganja victim. Stronger pot today? Ask a Vietnam vet. Acapulco Gold,
Panama Red and extractions much higher than the lies about BC bud
causing problems. Hard drugs were invented by Bayer around the mid
1800's. Cannabis used 5000 years. Can't "Gateway" to what hasn't
been invented. No one is stupid enough to grow Ganja in a hemp
field and risk pollinating kynd bud into burlap. Cops using this
fib, work for the synthetic competition.
Hemp is a major reason for "marihuana" prohibition. More cellulose,
greater tensile strength, Omega 3,6 and 9 EFA's. Homegrown
Carbohydrates or OPEC Hydrocarbons. A natural pest and weed
deterrent that's deep roots aerate the soil and prevents mudslides
Vs Cotton's 90 million pounds of abortion causing poisons running
off into the water supply, air and dirt kids play in. Too versatile
for an oil driven monopoly.
Then the subsidiaries you always hear about swift boating cannabis
initiatives, like Ehrenfelds fiction. Lies and gossip is not the
American way I was raised in. Laws preventing Constitutional rights
to a jury of ones peers, no 404 gag orders against defending
yourself. No mandatory minimum jury trial deterrents. Forcing 95%
to cop a plea, including very profitable urine testing and
probation costs. Double and triple jeopardy and losing the State
Sovereignty to govern anything not deemed Federal by the 10th
Amendment. The Commerce Act has no place in private gardens.
Nothing the Czars hurl stands up to logic. Especially having a tax
paid NIDA that is forbidden from conducting medicinal tests, only
negative propaganda science. Honest.
The drug czar is not permitted to aid and abed "legalizers" in any
way including telling the truth. At all cost, ends justifying means
call it what you will but it is not American, not Justice and
certainly not Fair to the users or Balanced reporting. Nixon lied
and a two bit burglary covered it up. One trillion dollars has been
spent arresting cannabis users since 1937. That is one trillion
dollars has been profits to the few remaining hold outs wanting to
punish Americans for a non victim vice. The true drug war zealots.
The prohibition profiteers.
Corporate competition kept off the market and profits treating the
problem. Those groups are the only ones left on ABC and cable news.
The rehabs, cops and prisons. Our taxes paying for our own
persecution is also not an America I want. It's not an America I'm
willing to sit by and let go on sale to the highest International
Bankster's bid. Time for ignorance to stop and let the laws of
physics determine cannabis' destiny. Because no matter what future
hobgoblins ms Ehrenfeld spouts, cannabis either is or it isn't. It
does or it doesn't. No talk just let it be. Let it provide for the
people.
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