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I Am Not Surprised
The frontrunner to be the next cyber security czar has the views on privacy that you'd expect from a czar.
mr simple|6.23.09 @ 1:57PM|#
FTA
Given his role in REAL ID, Tom Davis would not be a good choice
for privacy, which is something that President Obama specifically
promised to protect in his remarks on the cyber security strategy,"
says Jim Harper
Right. That's the promise Obama will keep.
monkey on juice|6.23.09 @ 2:03PM|#
Great; another czar - just what we need. We've now got more czars than the Soviet Union ever had. A privacy czar, a drug czar, a car czar...whats next, an interior decorating czar?
Peter|6.23.09 @ 2:04PM|#
I first read it as views on piracy, so I was happily surprised by the article.
|6.23.09 @ 2:06PM|#
We've now got more czars than the Soviet Union ever
had.
???
Also, does this guy have a bad rug, cut his hair with a spoon, or
simply sport a horrendous comb-over?
|6.23.09 @ 2:07PM|#
If everyone in government is a czar, who are the serfs? And what about the Patriarchy?
monkey on juice|6.23.09 @ 2:08PM|#
BTW - I call dibbs on the position of hot lingerie model inspection czar.
|6.23.09 @ 2:09PM|#
Just another republican party politician all too eager to continue to feed at the public trough. The fact that he mooched off of us for 14 years as a statist solon (redundant, yes, but okay in the service of alliteration)is an automatic disqualifier-for any position.
|6.23.09 @ 2:11PM|#
If everyone in government is a czar, who are the
serfs?
If you don't know who the rube serf is, then you are
the rube serf.
|6.23.09 @ 2:12PM|#
If he had tapped a woman for czar (are there any female "czars"
in our government?), would we refer to her as "czarina"?
Otherwise, as per Jesse, color me unsurprised.
|6.23.09 @ 2:14PM|#
R C,
Very well, I want to be a czar, then. I guess that explains the
sudden explosion in the title.
|6.23.09 @ 2:15PM|#
whats next, an interior decorating czar?
Sure. Go ahead a make fun, but the Interior Decorating Czar keeps
disasters like this from happening.
|6.23.09 @ 2:42PM|#
How far we've come since the days of "bikini inspector". You start out as a simple, bikini-inspecting civil servant and before you know it you're hot lingerie model czar.
monkey on juice|6.23.09 @ 2:53PM|#
"How far we've come since the days of "bikini inspector". You
start out as a simple, bikini-inspecting civil servant and before
you know it you're hot lingerie model czar."
You see...now thats change I can believe in.
|6.23.09 @ 2:59PM|#
monkey on juice-BTW - I call dibbs on the position of hot
lingerie model inspection czar.
If the government takes over production of models a la GM, ya might
wanna think twice...
|6.23.09 @ 3:11PM|#
I'd like to be crowned the Czarina of Chocolate, so I can outlaw those disgusting blue M&Ms and bring back the good old-fashioned light browns.
Rich|6.23.09 @ 3:18PM|#
Warty, they only look that way because the government is protecting his privacy.
Nooge|6.23.09 @ 3:26PM|#
"Given his role in REAL ID, Tom Davis would not be a good
choice for privacy, which is something that President Obama
specifically promised to protect in his remarks on the
cyber security strategy," says Jim Harper.
Found the problem.
24AheadDotCom|6.23.09 @ 3:49PM|#
Put on your collective, tattered libertarian thinking cap and
answer this: would RealID have succeeded as it has if we hadn't had
so much IllegalImmigration? That's a yes or no question. To help
you answer it, suppose that we had very little IllegalImmigration
(noting that OpenBorders isn't the solution since the vast majority
of Americans would oppose that.) If someone pushed RealID when we
didn't have an IllegalImmigration problem, wouldn't it look a bit
odd? (Once again: OpenBorders isn't the solution since the vast
majority of Americans would oppose that.)
Reason's policies have led to a backlash that led to RealID. And,
they don't have the brainpower or the integrity to figure that
out.
P.S. In case anyone replies to this, their responses will almost
assuredly be ad homs delivered through sockpuppets, thereby
conceding my points and showing the cowardly, childish,
anti-intellectual nature of libertarians.
|6.23.09 @ 3:52PM|#
Ah, I see that you wish to be the Mark Antony Czar, Citizen
Nothing.
The Lay Czar is still unclaimed.
|6.23.09 @ 4:35PM|#
24Ahead,
So you know we'll say that if we had open borders then there
wouldn't be illegal immigration, thus no need for Real ID. And you
say we can't have open borders because the people would oppose it.
But you still want to say that the open borders policy we support
leads to illegal immigration, and thus the call for Real ID, even
though open borders is not possible.
Somewhere along the line you learned to spot an ad hom argument.
Good for you. But look up the term "non sequitur" then re-read your
post.
hmm|6.23.09 @ 4:43PM|#
It's getting more and more important to make friends with the IT
nerds and leech some info and how-tos.
Anytime someone states something is a yes or no question they are
incapable of defending their argument against what they know is
most likely the next answer. It's fail from the get go.
Fuck Real ID, fuck invasion of privacy, fuck this potential tard of
a czar, just fuck.
hmm|6.23.09 @ 4:46PM|#
Maybe they can get Joe "the plumber" to take the job. I hear the the internet is a series of tubes and plumbers know tubes. Then again so do prostitutes and they are already familiar with politicians and privacy.
|6.23.09 @ 4:52PM|#
"""would RealID have succeeded as it has if we hadn't had so
much IllegalImmigration?"""
Yes. It was/is/whatever important to keep terrorist from getting
fake IDs.
9/11 did more to support the RealID concept than illegal
immigration ever will.
Gimlet|6.23.09 @ 4:52PM|#
"Fuck Real ID, fuck invasion of privacy, fuck this potential
tard of a czar, just fuck."
Tard Czar. I could handle that.
|6.23.09 @ 4:54PM|#
Tard Czar.
So close, Gimlet.
I propose that, rather than calling all these jumped-up playground
monitors "Czars", we refer to them as "Tards".
Thus, we have a Drug Tard, an Energy Tard, etc.
|6.23.09 @ 4:56PM|#
""""Fuck Real ID, fuck invasion of privacy,"""
Sadly, we give willlingly via social networking sites.
"""Tard Czar. I could handle that."""
Obama is playing that role in conjuction with his presidency.
|6.23.09 @ 4:58PM|#
I like RC Dean's idea, if it catches on maybe people won't want
the positions.
Although, It gives new meaning to fucktard.
monkey on juice|6.23.09 @ 5:00PM|#
"Tard Czar. I could handle that."
Wouldn't that be Obama's job?
(yeah Geithner, I'm looking at you...)
Derek Ashworth|6.23.09 @ 5:13PM|#
Goddammit, why does Obama always have to pick the biggest loser shit-heels from the Republican party to show his bigger-than-politics bipartisanship? Jim Leach. Tom Davis. Who's next, Virgil Goode? Bob Goodlatte? Fuck.
24AheadDotCom|6.23.09 @ 5:27PM|#
plisade writes: But you still want to say that the open
borders policy we support leads to illegal immigration
I'm sorry you're confused. Libertarians don't just advocate for an
OpenBorders policy as a whole platform, all of which must be done
at one time. What they advocate for is MassiveImmigration -
including of the illegal variety - completely without making ending
welfare a pre-condition. And, they do that by things like smearing
and lying about those who support our laws. IOW, they support the
current situation where a small number of elites does things that
most Americans don't want and that has huge costs for 99% of
Americans. They are, in effect, using force against the vast
majority of Americans (i.e., MSM-distributed lies and
smears).
TrickyVic is correct to a certain extent, but concerns about
terrorism that occurs inside the U.S. is largely not concerns about
the home-grown variety; the 911 perps came here due to a lax
VisaSystem.
|6.23.09 @ 5:56PM|#
24 Ahead,
It's difficult to avoid going ad hom on you. So, which came first,
illegal immigration or Libertarian support of it? I have another
homework assignment for you (though you disregarded the first one).
Learn the difference between causality and correlation.
|6.23.09 @ 7:27PM|#
Nobody has claimed the porno czar, the marijuana inspection czar, or the fried chicken czar I claim these.
Jonas|6.23.09 @ 8:35PM|#
from monkey on juice:
A privacy czar, a drug czar, a car czar...whats next, an
interior decorating czar?
Sadly, I think some states actually already have these...
|6.24.09 @ 2:55PM|#
"""Nobody has claimed the porno czar, the marijuana inspection
czar, or the fried chicken czar I claim these."""
Bill Clinton beat ya to it.
|6.24.09 @ 2:59PM|#
"""TrickyVic is correct to a certain extent, but concerns about
terrorism that occurs inside the U.S. is largely not concerns about
the home-grown variety; the 911 perps came here due to a lax
VisaSystem."""
And some of the 9/11 crew did have drivers licences. I believe New
Jersey was slammed for it.
I do agree that the immigration issue helped keep the momentum
going.
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