Nick Gillespie | June 19, 2009
Yesterday the Senate passed a war-funding bill totaling $106 billion (goddamn, that just seems like chump change these days, doesn't it?), with some of the funds even going to the prosecution of rudderless action in Iraq and Afghanistan. This bill will fund the wars through the end of this fiscal year. And needless to say, it's full of other junk completely unrelated to Iraq and Afghanistan:
At Obama's behest, the bill includes $7.7 billion to prepare for pandemic flu and funding to offer an increased line of credit to the International Monetary Fund. Congress added $1 billion to start the "cash for clunkers" program that will give Americans vouchers of as much as $4,500 to turn in their old cars and purchase more fuel-efficient ones.
Congress has agreed to increase anti-narcotics funding for Mexico, providing an additional $420 million this year to buy helicopters, surveillance aircraft and computers for police and soldiers fighting traffickers. The White House had asked Congress to add $66 million in the bill for Mexico's drug war—about enough to buy three helicopters. But lawmakers had become alarmed about the soaring death toll across the border, and they raised the total.
From $66 million to $420 million? To septuple down on a failed policy of prohibition that creates the violence in the first place? More dough for the IMF? Cash for clunkers? Who can keep track of this sort of stuff, especially when the U.S. is in the worst economic crisis since the disappointing B.O. of the latest Terminator flick and we're all balancing our budgets while wearing pickle barrels and selling apples to unemployed hedge fund operators?
The one good thing coming out of this damnable funding bill, which is precisely the sort of phony emergency supplemental spending bill that President George W. Bush used to fund his wars (now our grandchildren's)? Barack Obama has pronounced that it will be the last such exercise in legislative abuse.
The Obama administration said that this "emergency" spending bill would be the last of its kind, and that subsequent war spending would go through the regular budget process. Congress has authorized $882 billion in 17 such funding bills for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan since 2001, according to the Office of Management and Budget.
And given Lord Obama's track record on cutting earmarks out of spending bills, well, don't hold your breath on anything ever changing, except your taxes. Which are going up.
In May 2008, Veronique de Rugy explained how the supplemental funding process was being systematically abused to fund "The Trillion-Dollar War."
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$420 million this year to buy helicopters,
surveillance aircraft and computers for police and soldiers
fighting traffickers.
Now, that particular amount has GOT to be a raised middle
finger.
During the campaign one was told that things regarding the war
would be different under Obama.
And the beat goes on.
""Yesterday the Senate passed a war-funding bill totaling $106
billion (goddamn, that just seems like chump change these days,
doesn't it?),"""
Sadly, yes.
Hey, it's only 1/10 of a trillion. That's pocket change,
right?
I'm really surprise that Obama ratings haven't started tanking. I'm
still holding on to my prediction that his ratings will be in the
30s by Christmas.
66 million for three helos? What are they equiped with $1000 toliet
seats and $5000 wrenches?
"""This must be why joe left. Too hard to defend."""
Can ya blame him? Hell, he should be pissed off at Obama. Maybe
it's not the difficulty of defense as much as avoiding the told you
so.
Too hard to defend.
Not just hard -- impossible. But joe was so egotistical and so
invested in Hopey McChange he could never back down from his own
ridiculous praise of the man. You might say his hard-on for Obama
was too big to fail, even when every prObama talking point joe shat
into this forum turned out to be a damned lie.
Frankly, i consider the departure of joe from this board to be one
of the major victories of modern libertarianism, which i guess
doesn't say much for modern libertarianism.
I wish he'd come back. Once he admitted that his hero was just
another lying SOB, we'd gather him in our arms in loving
welcome.
Come on, joe. We'll forgive you your misguided past.
Maybe it's not the difficulty of defense as much as avoiding the told you so.
I hope not. I don't think anyone most people would rub it in too hard.
Once he admitted that his hero was just another lying SOB,
we'd gather him in our arms in loving welcome.
I don't think his pride would let him do that, so he took his ball
and went home instead. Which, really, amounts to the same thing. I
do miss his RED/BLUE shouting matches with John.
I don't think anyone most people would rub it
in too hard.
Um, how long have you been reading Hit'n'Run? They'd have to change
the name to Hitjoe'n'Runover'im. It would be brutal. The
dude knew it, and he couldn't admit to being wrong, and he couldn't
hang.
Assuming he does still lurk around these parts, i'm sure right now he's thinking, "Pwned! I still loom large in the minds of those libertarians!" Furiously masturbating.
You're worse than Matt Welch.
420/66=6.36
So, assuming the numbers are correct then even with rounding it's
only a sextuple. Or 536% more. Not 636% more.
Isn't that bad enough?
Unwarranted exaggeration discredits your ability to use reason and
not only taints this presentation but all others as well.
Joe is waiting patiently in the wings. He will be back to rub your faces in it when Obama's policies are so wildly successful that he is assured a second term.
Damn brotherben, that was so awesome it has to be somebody spoofing you. Even your faith in our President can't be that solid.
Unwarranted exaggeration discredits your ability to use
reason and not only taints this presentation but all others as
well.
There's gotta be a DRINK! in there, somewhere.
Probably two.
Congress added $1 billion to start the "cash for clunkers"
program that will give Americans vouchers of as much as $4,500 to
turn in their old cars and purchase more fuel-efficient
ones.
I knew it! Big Green is secretly behind the Iraq War. They
orchestrated the whole thing. Follow the money people, follow the
money.
Art-P.O.G. | June 19, 2009, 10:35am | #
This must be why joe left. Too hard to defend.
I'm giving Joe the benefit of the doubt and assuming he's in a
hospital somewhere without internet access.
It could be much simpler. Joe made his arguments during the campaign. His man is in office doing everything to Joe's liking. Joe, knowing his positions fell on deaf ears, has the good form not to come around simply to gloat.
Cash for clunkers = broken windows. Don't these people have even a basic notion of economics? You can't improve the economy by destroying stuff. What about all the low income people whose usual source of sub $3000 cars will now be headed for the scrap dump? I don't think I can take it anymore.
What about all the low income people whose usual source of sub $3000 cars will now be headed for the scrap dump?...
Oh, they get a $4500 "voucher" toward the purchase of a much more
expensive vehicle that they can't really afford, the total price of
which will be increased by $4500 or so by the connected dealerships
that will be selling them. Plus they get to make monthly car
payments instead of owning a vehicle outright - much better for the
finance institiutions.
There's a program like that in Texas. The car dealers love it -
well some of them do anyway.
@Bronwyn & P Brooks
You're Luddites. I use an AI-controlled 10% ethanol IV infusion
(
A very wise poster hereabouts suggested I do some light reading
on basic econ.
re: the clunker voucher. Could this spur folks to trade in their
pos for a payment they can't afford in the long run? The car market
bubble is the new housing market bubble?
"That could be the theme of the next RNC fundraiser."
The RNC has been out performing the DNC's fund raising by about
3-1.
The Obama administration said that this "emergency" spending bill would be the last of its kind
This is my last cigarette. I'm quitting tomorrow. No really! I'm
quitting tomorrow, so this cigarette doesn't count. Watch, this is
the last. Just as soon as I finish this pack I'm quitting. Only
three more cigarettes in the pack, and then I'm quitting tomorrow
morning. Trust me, this is the last. I still have two more packs in
the carton, but I'm quitting tomorrow so it's okay. This is my last
cigarette.
Congress added $1 billion to start the "cash for clunkers"
program that will give Americans vouchers of as much as $4,500 to
turn in their old cars and purchase more fuel-efficient
ones.
They're actually going to do this? This thing is real?
I have a little piece o shyte 91 mazda I would love to get 4500
clams for. tons o miles, wrecked on one fender, seats dead from a
carload of fatties. Trouble is, the oil looks new still at 3000
miles and it gets 36 mpg all around.
Oh yeah, I don't have money for an extra payment so the mazda is
still a sweet sweet ride.
I need to find somebody who wants a new car; I'll let him cash in my 454 Suburban, if he goes halfsies with me on the 4500 bucks.
I need to find somebody who wants a new car; I'll let him
cash in my 454 Suburban, if he goes halfsies with me on the 4500
bucks.
Won't work. You *must* purchase a new vehicle, and the $4,500 is
wired directly to the participating dealer, who mysteriously marked
the vehicle up $4,500 right before you purchase.
Think I'm kidding?
Appropriately enough, a googling of Lonewacko's real name comes
up with a #1 result containing
I Knew Pussy Galore. Pussy Galore Was a Friend of Mine. And You, Nancy Pelosi, Are No Pussy Galore
Hugh, the only complaing i've seen about war funding has been here on Reason. But that's about it.
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