Katherine Mangu-Ward | June 1, 2009
After stumbling upon some common ground with the
crafty
hipsters who make toys and also make trouble for government
regulators, I'm delighted to find yet another
libertarian-compatible hipster venture in the news today. This
time, they're
meddling in health care:
Started in August 2008 in Williamsburg, Hello Health has attracted roughly 300 members. For $35 per month, members gain access to Hello Health’s website....Unlike most health IT platforms, Hello Health looks more like Flickr or Facebook than, say, Windows 95. Members can IM and email with their doctors, make appointments online, and access their digital health record, which includes blog-post style, doctor-authored summaries of each appointment.
Members are guaranteed appointments within 24 hours of scheduling, and can choose between visiting the office, receiving a house call, or, for minor illnesses or follow-up sessions, videoconferencing with a doc. Hello Heath doesn’t take insurance (though patients with coverage are free to submit bills to insurers on their own), and all appointment fees are set in advance–$100 to $200 depending on the complexity of the visit, with lab tests and generic meds included in the price.
This model may not save the country from entitlement fiscal
doom, but this kind of experimentation is exactly what we need
right now if we're going to find a way out of the hole
we dug for ourselves the Boomers dug and
then threw us into.
Of course, if you start to feel too warm and fuzzy toward the denizens of Williamsburg, Brooklyn, there's always the folks on this website.
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"This website" is down for maintenance. What was it? And where did you get that picture of phalkor?
I'm delighted to find yet another libertarian-compatible
hipster venture...
For some reason, I read that as
libertarian-compostable hipster...
I like my version better.
"""Members can IM and email with their doctors, make
appointments online, and access their digital health record, which
includes blog-post style, doctor-authored summaries of each
appointment."""
Who keeps the health record, and at what point do you sign a HIPAA
consent form? In the TOS?
"""all appointment fees are set in advance-$100 to $200 depending
on the complexity of the visit, with lab tests and generic meds
included in the price.""""
In house labs only? Does it include diagnostic imaging? Probably
not.
This will fold in less than a year. What are they reallying
offering for the money? A web site that will make an appointment
for you? Your medical record has been available to you by demand
for a while due to HIPAA laws. People might not realize that the
website might be holding your medical info.
"" Members can IM and email with their doctors, make appointments
online, and access their digital health record, """
Much of what the website says it can do, is already available in
some new(er) EMRs.
There are a ton of ways to make health care available to almost everyone in America, but sadly, Obama didn't invite me, or anyone else who wasn't sucking up to gain favor when the universal healthcare is forced in anyway, to the decision making group a few weeks back.
I live in Williamsburg, and Hello Health is my local clinic. They're fucking awesome.
Sounds like a good business model. I wonder what the potential is for a national doc in a box based on the same idea.
This site is up now.
This isn't really insurance replacement. It may help some of the
hipsters in Williamsburg without insurance for small things. If
your not too sick or too hurt it might be ok. But if you're really
hurt, or you need to see a specialist, you're screwed. That's a
huge out of pocket expense, IF you can find one that will see you
without insurance.
We don't really pay for insurance just for the Dr.'s visits. It's
for the catastrophic events we hope won't happen.
Unlike most health IT platforms, Hello Health looks more
like Flickr or Facebook than, say, Windows 95.
And if Windows 95 were a website, that would mean something. I
suspect Hello Health looks more like the Mona Lisa than it looks
like a 75-foot long seahorse, but that doesn't mean it looks like
the Mona Lisa at all.
ya know back in the 90's before all the drug crackdowns on docs, you could just ring up the doc on the tele, say hey doc i got bronchitis, and violia meds await at the pharmacy, no charge, no office visit, or doc i sprained me leg, bam! hydrocodone awaiting at the pharmacy. then clinton and bush pushed through regulation that made it mandatory for offic evisits and screwed all healthcare up! Doc's cant and wont do things like that today, for fear of lawsuits and the DEA
My wife found a doctor who does not accept insurance and as such is able to charge significantly less that peers. He is not forced to hire a small army of assistants to follow up on claims.... We can submit our own claims if we wish separately....
then clinton and bush pushed through regulation that made it mandatory for offic evisits and screwed all healthcare up! Doc's cant and wont do things like that today, for fear of lawsuits and the DEA
Private insurers are responsible for this, not lawsuits or the DEA.
They won't reimburse for a treatment without a physician seeing the
patient and, depending on the circumstance, minor confirmatory
testing.
Regarding Hello Health, it's a good idea in that it makes primary
care more friendly, but it won't help with controlling healthcare
costs, which are mostly hospital and/or acute disease related, not
due to primary care expenses. Primary care costs have been
essentially level for decades, with most healthcare inflation being
due to the increasing cost of sophisticated care for the very
ill.
I love those scarves. I can automatically identify someone as a total douche and ignore their existence.
I love those scarves. I can automatically identify someone
as a total douche and ignore their existence.
They are also pretty handy if the situation gets all chokey.
the hole the Boomers dug and then threw us into
Really? You can blame all of America's problems on people born from
1946 to 1964?
How convenient for you, Ms. -Ward. Everybody needs a good
scapegoat.
TrickyVic,
The key is to buy ONLY catastrophic health insurance (if your state
allows) and use something like this for the small stuff.
Cheap insurance (especially if young) and then pay out of pocket
for that 1 time a decade you need a doctor. (What? People go more
than that?)
You can blame all of America's problems on people born from
1946 to 1964?
Not all, just most.
You can blame all of America's problems on people born from
1946 to 1964 1957?
FTFY
You can blame all of America's problems on people born from 1946 to 1964?
Not all, just most.
Yes, all. All. Of. Them.
Just want to point out that one of the hopsters on LATFH (linked site) has a Fountainhead tattoo. That is all.
"""The key is to buy ONLY catastrophic health insurance (if your
state allows) and use something like this for the small
stuff.""""
This only covers minor stuff. There is a lot between minor and
catastrophic that would be expensive out of pocket. Catastrophic
insurance would still cost a nice piece of change and I wonder if
the definition of catastrophic would be static in the long
term.
Health costs are expensive, we can try to reduce the costs,
stabilize the costs, or become creative on how to keep paying the
higher costs.
We need to improve tools for self diagnosis and a less regulated
way of getting the medication. Take care of ourselves for the minor
shit. Reserve the pros for the bigger stuff.
Yes, I too am laughing at the political absurdity of above
paragraph.
I have lived here in the burg for 10 years and am not a hipster.
Although I am not sure what the antithesis is supposed to be. But
the highlights of that website you linked to are fairly spot-on.
The better version (because of the snarky commentary) of the same
thing is Vice mags "Do's and Don'ts"
here =
Solana | June 1, 2009, 4:18pm | #
I live in Williamsburg, and Hello Health is my local clinic.
They're fucking awesome.
I should look into this. I'm losing my coverage in the next 2
months. Good looking out H&R.
Whoops, forgot to link =
example
http://www.viceland.com/int/dd.php?id=1798
Howard Dean is correct.
"a"(Toothy, Robust)"public health insurance option is more
important than bipartisanship, and Democrats should pass
health-care legislation that includes the option with 51 votes if
necessary."
"Democrats should have "no intention" of working with Republicans
if it's not the strongest possible legislation that could be passed
with a simple majority." (Howard Dean)
This is what WE THE PEOPLE gave the Democrats all that power to do
for ALL of us.
You see, Dr. Dean knows that in medicine and healthcare there is
only one acceptable standard. And that standard is the HIGHEST
level of EXCELLENCE you can provide for everyone. Nothing less has
ever been acceptable in caring for a precious human life. This is
one of the unique and difficult aspects of medicine and
healthcare.
jacksmith -- WORKING CLASS
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