Tim Cavanaugh | May 19, 2009
Christopher
Hitchens reviews the comedienne Wanda Sykes' performance at the
White House Correspondents' Dinner. Short description: Sykes died
up there like Mary Jo Kophechne, and it's all because she was
"vocalizing the talking points of moveon.org and Air America."
Every article has a stated purpose and a true purpose, and Hitch's real aim here is to call Sykes a "Sable Sapphist" (twice), and also to retell some old racist chestnuts under color of a disinterested examination — the comedy equivalent of having your cake and eating it too. (Full disclosure, my real aim is to use the word "comedienne.") I also think there's some connective tissue missing in the claim that the Sable Sapphist wouldn't be caught "lampooning a black equivalent of Limbaugh for an addiction to, say, crack."
But there's an excellent discussion of the whole phenomenon of bootlicking comedy stylings before the National Leader — a spectacle Hitchens, who claims to have endured WHDC jokesters for a truly horrific three decades, knows well:
President Bush used to tell jokes about his weaknesses, the most salient of these being his tragic struggle with grammar, itself quite possibly rooted in dyslexia. Many of President Obama's jokes, his speechwriters should take note, were at the expense of his strengths-"I might lose my cool"-and were thus bordering on the narcissistic. (If I have a fault, and I'm the first to admit it, it's probably this: I am too sweet and too patient and too tolerant of the mistakes of others.)
Any tendency to narcissism doubles the need for a follow-up speaker who can make the president wince, not smirk. This we did not get. And Limbaugh's dependence, like Bush's dyslexia, is actually a disability. Can you easily picture any jokes from the Sable Sapphist that would in any other way breach the protocols of the Americans With Disabilities Act? Any other person of whom she would dare say, "I hope his kidneys fail"? Any other context in which torture would be funny enough for her to yell, "He needs a water-boarding, that's what he needs"? Reality and comedy check here: Would she even say this about Osama Bin Laden?
When comedians flatter the president, they become court jesters, and the country becomes a banana republic.
And yet, and yet, check out the Jesse Venture PWNS Elizabeth Hasselbeck video:
I got an actual laugh out of The Body's last line. For whatever reason, the juxtaposition of waterboarding, Dick Cheney and the Manson murders = Comedy. Go figure.
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I also think there's some connective tissue missing in the
claim that the Sable Sapphist wouldn't be caught "lampooning a
black equivalent of Limbaugh for an addiction to, say,
crack."
Unless she has told jokes about Marion Barry, I would say this is
spot on.
Why does Hitchens call himself a liberal? Has he confused the term as being synonymous with "pluperfect jackass"?
It's over, don't forget it (it will be forgotten) and move on. Posturing and calling for heads on platters isn't going to do one damn bit of good unless you want all of Congress and the Executive branch prosecuted, which isn't going to happen. Too many people are pumping up their chest and screaming now instead of doing so then (not this case The Body disagreed day one) and the media is just feeding the fire.
Sykes died up there like Mary Jo Kophechne
So, Ted Kennedy was observed running away from the scene?
Comedy that supports the powerful is just not funny in most cases. At some point making fun of Rush Limbaugh or evangelicals or the minority party becomes at best just making fun of the fat kid or at worst government propeganda.
Unless she has told jokes about Marion Barry, I would say
this is spot on.
I don't know whether Sykes herself ever made a Marion Barry joke
(but I wouldn't doubt it; she's been doing comedy for a long time),
but that's exactly the point. Is there anybody out there who
didn't make Marion Barry crack jokes? "Bitch set me up" is
right up there with "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness" in
our catalogue of national catchphrases.
Thanks for pointing out that comedians that had 8 years of material handed to them now have to blow big O for their comedy. There are a few that didn't rely on Bush's daily fuck-ups and oddly enough they aren't blowing the Il Duce as a comedy show. Go figure. Most political comedians are a dismal failure right now because their personal views get in the way and they don't have the white house writing their material. You actually have to think about how you are getting fucked these days. The new guy is a little more crafty than the last guy.
Wanda Sykes problem is that whenever she says something good that gets a laugh, her next two jokes are the exact same joke.
Or that most of her comedy is a fart joke with some sort of situational comedy added. She just isn't funny and either needs new writers or needs to hire some.
Admittedly, Wanda Sykes is horribly unfunny. But not because Hitchens says so. She was the least funny person in her scene in Clerks 2.
Sable Sapphist
Sable Sapphist?
Jeeezis, Hitchens- how long did they hold your head underwater?
What is sad is that Obama and especially his white followers are
so ripe for satire. My God spend ten minutes readin The Stuff White
People Like and the jokes should write themselves.
The smug, white liberal is incapable of laughing at himself. Every
other social group has a comdiene who has made a name for
themselves making fun of that group. Black people had Richard Prior
and later Chris Rock and Dave Chapelle who made entire careers
getting laughs at the expense of black culture. White rednecks have
the entire blue collar comedy tour that does nothing but make fun
of its audience. I could go to a NASCAR race and set up a stage and
tell funny redneck jokes and be a hero. If I were black, I could go
to any black audience and tell black jokes and people would laugh.
But if I went on the Daily Show or Daily Kos and started telling
joeks about smug, white liberals, they would call for my head.
There is something really creepy about that fact.
P Brooks - depending on your point of view, a little too long, or not nearly long enough.
Good article, Hitch, but I do have one disagreement. Drug addition, unlike dyslexia, is a lifestyle choice, not a disability. A stupid choice, yes, but still a choice.
Sykes died up there like Mary Jo Kophechne
SURVEY SAYS!
"Filled with Ted Kennedy's semen."
The smug, white liberal is incapable of laughing at
himself.
The smug is always incapable of laughing at himself. Liberal,
conservative, libertarian... doesn't make any difference.
You are probably onto something though, Obama was the least smug of
the 3 major candidates. Dubya was less smug than Gore or Kerry,
Clinton less smug than his opponents. The funny thing is the
Democrats managed to find someone more smug than Bush I the first
time around.
John - let's test your hypothesis. Tell us some jokes about
smug, white liberals.
I don't remember what it was now, but you did post something
humorous yesterday. Let's hear some more of your wit.
Dave Chapelle who made entire careers getting laughs at the expense of black culture
Though apparently Dave Chappelle's breakdown was because his
audience was largely white, and it eventually made him feel like it
was more of a minstrel show than anything else. He wanted blacks to
laugh at black culture, not just whites.
The smug, white liberal is incapable of laughing at
himself.
That's because the smug, white liberal thinks itself to be pure in
thought and deed; to mock it would be immoral.
John, SWPL is a comedy site. Yes, its a knowing, hyper
self-aware, look-im-great because-I-can-make-fun-of-myself comedy
site, but its comedy nonetheless.
Ever read the Onion? read the one about the FBI rescuing kidnapped
and starving American Apparel models from a photo shoot? the one
about the fire at a Yo La Tengo concert and nothing was left but a
twisted pile of black rimmed glasses.
You may not get these jokes but there kinda funny and these people
are also Jon Stewart watchers.
"Though apparently Dave Chappelle's breakdown was because his
audience was largely white, and it eventually made him feel like it
was more of a minstrel show than anything else. He wanted blacks to
laugh at black culture, not just whites."
Really? I didn't know that. But throw out Dave Chappelle. Think
about Prior. A character like Mudd Bone is certainly at the expense
of part of the black community. But plenty of black people laughed
at it. Another example is Tyler Perry. Go into any black church on
Sunday and you will see where Media comes from.
Go to Williamsburg or Dupont Circle in Washington sometime and you
will see the white liberal version of Media. The hip, Obama voting,
go the ANSWER march, stuff white people like young liberal. Where
is the Tyler Perry to make the media character after those people?
There isn't one that I know of. If there was, the last people
laughing would be the subjects of the comedy.
Matt,
The Onion is a good counter example. I have no idea who the hell
who Yo le Tengo is but I will take your word for it. Of course, the
Onion is in print and goes after everyone not just hipster
doofuses.
John,
Yeah. Chappelle mentioned this on Oprah. Here's one article about it.
Apparently the epiphany came after a white cameraman was laughing
too hard at a blackface gag scene.
TC,
Is there anybody out there who didn't make Marion Barry crack
jokes?
I didn't.
However, if someone would have gotten on stage and done The
Aristocrats joke using the Obama family as the people in the joke?
All win there!
"Yeah. Chappelle mentioned this on Oprah. Here's one article
about it. Apparently the epiphany came after a white cameraman was
laughing too hard at a blackface gag scene."
Good for him. If only now he would turn his comic genius on liberal
white people.
Good for him. If only now he would turn his comic genius on
liberal white people.
I don't think he will ever go after Obama like Carson went after
Carter.
"However, if someone would have gotten on stage and done The
Aristocrats joke using the Obama family as the people in the joke?
All win there!"
That would be truly subversive. People like Stewart and Maher
constantly pat themselves on the back for being cutting edge and
subversive. Of course they would never have the balls to do
anything really subversive. And they would turn like a pack of
wolves on anyone who ever actually did anything as subversive as
that.
Before there was Stuff White People Like, there was
Black People Love
Us!
I'm one of those weirdos who thinks Wanda Sykes is occasionally
funny, but her latest gig was a bomb.
Comedy is cuisine... what you like depends on your
taste.
I know no one who willing eats shit.
I know no one who willing eats shit.
You are hanging with the wrong BDSM crowd.
Interesting link, Thacker, but this is one mighty suspicious
correction, eh?
[A] few days before he came, a white person had called him a nigger. The incident? On the golf course, the young man tried to discreetly relieve himself near the white man's yard.*
[...]
Correction: April 4, 2006: The article originally and incorrectly stated that the young black man had hit his tee shot into the white man's yard. In fact, he was discreetly relieving himself in a place where the white man could see him. Return to the corrected sentence.
I've got a feeling the story of how this error got made is more
interesting than anything in the actual article.
Drug addition, unlike dyslexia, is a
lifestyle choice, not a disability.
Another victim of RC'z Law.
Obama was the least smug of the 3 major candidates.
I don't think "least smug" means what you think it means,
Invisible.
There isn't one that I know of. If there was, the last
people laughing would be the subjects of the comedy.
John,
the Mainstream Media is liberal and smug, ive even heard you say so
yourself (har har). When Colbert skewered the Ever Loving Shit out
of them at correspondents dinner a few years back, they did not
laugh laughs of joy, they laughed laughs of painful recognition.
Then they panned his performance in their columns the next day.
My wife yelled at me for asked a crowd of her bunny hugging
housewife breeder freind's how many were going to tryout for the
lead role in Spike Lee's new sequel to his 1991 hit Jungle Fever,
Jungle Fever II: Il Duce.
They called me racist.
"There's no need to make fun of Obama worship, they already do
our job for us."
One weekend a month I eat lunch down in the Capital Hill District
of Washington. At least around Eastern Market, it is totally white
and totally liberal. The Obam paraphanelia for sale ranges from the
partioric, Obama in front of the capital, to the creepy, Obama
looking suspicously like Jesus, the to bizare, OBama as Superman or
Obama on a unicorn. I have often thought of buying one of the
unicorn ones and framing it in my office just to see what people
would say.
I know no one who willing eats shit.
And you must have only heard sanitized versions of The
Aristocrats.
The article originally and incorrectly stated that the young
black man had hit his tee shot into the white man's yard. In fact,
he was discreetly relieving himself in a place where the white man
could see him.
Two thoughts:
(1) If he had been discreetly relieving himself, then the white man
wouldn't have been able to see him.
(2) Looks like a straight typo to me - "tee shot" v. "pee
shot".
Then they panned his performance in their columns the next day.
And then hired Rich Fucking Little to do the next dinner.
"John,
the Mainstream Media is liberal and smug, ive even heard you say so
yourself (har har). When Colbert skewered the Ever Loving Shit out
of them at correspondents dinner a few years back, they did not
laugh laughs of joy, they laughed laughs of painful recognition.
Then they panned his performance in their columns the next
day."
I would love to see someone go on the Daily Show and start telling
stuff white people like jokes. They would be skinned.
Another victim of RC'z Law.
I don't think so. Drug addition is the crazy way the drug folks do
their financial math. Like nickle never means nickle, etc.
And you must have only heard sanitized versions of The Aristocrats.I know no one who willing eats shit.
Or... you must not know anyone who voted the straight Democrat or
Republican ticket.
John - you've never actually seen a full episode of The Daily Show, have you?
Q: How many feminists does it take to screw in a light
bulb?
A: That's not funny!
"John - you've never actually seen a full episode of The Daily
Show, have you?"
Yes I have. And it is exactly what its critics claim it is.
Wingnutx, that reminds me of the Callahan cartoon with the caption: "We don't have a humor section! This is a feminist bookstore!"
Now, I'm only going to get you guys started. Make sure to leave
in a place where the next person has somewhere left to go...
Barack Obama walks into the theater manager's office with two
Secret Service men. They shut the door behind them and then stand
abreast in front of it. The manager throws up his hands in
surprise. "President Obama? What are you doing here?" Obama beams a
thousand-watt smile at him. "I have an idea for an act," he says.
"It will make us both a lot of money." The manager says, "But you
are The President of the United States. Why would you want to do a
stage act?" Obama leans in and turns on his gravitas. "Michelle and
I worked on this act the entire campaign. We wanted something to
fall back on if I couldn't win. We put so much work into it, I
can't just let it go." The manager looks at the agents by the door.
The tall one shrugs. "OK, Mr. President," he says, "tell me about
the act."
"Well, it starts off with Michelle on a high wire act. She fakes a
fall and I catch her with only the tip of my cock. I balance her as
I walk across the stage to where Nancy Pelosi is shitting in a
bucket. I sit Michelle feet first in the bucket and then wipe my
cock off on Nancy's face. Nancy starts shoving her turds in
Michelle's cunt as I piss in her hair. When I finish, I punch Nancy
in the back of the head and I anal-wheelbarrow her across the stage
to Rahm. He begins to
Given that this is Hitchens we're talking about, I'm surprised he didn't say, "Sykes bombed like an Islamist."
...jerk off into Michelle's mouth, while Hillary pounds his ass with a strap-on...
Franklin - that is funny
The View is like a stupidity and ignorance contest that Elizabeth
Hasselbach always wins.
John - exactly one episode during the Bush administration, I'm
guessing.
"John - exactly one episode during the Bush administration, I'm
guessing."
He makes about one joke a week at a really easy Democratic target.
So he can use it as a fig leaf. Stewart is just a less honest Rush
Limbaugh without the drug problem. In fact, he might be funnier if
he had a drug problem.
"Though apparently Dave Chappelle's breakdown was because his
audience was largely white, and it eventually made him feel like it
was more of a minstrel show than anything else. He wanted blacks to
laugh at black culture, not just whites."
Fucking racist.
Isn't the problem really that you don't like or can't conceive that some people, like Greenwald and perhaps Stewart (who admits to being liberal) actually have objective principles instead of just "I want my party to win" principles?
"Isn't the problem really that you don't like or can't conceive
that some people, like Greenwald and perhaps Stewart (who admits to
being liberal) actually have objective principles instead of just
"I want my party to win" principles?"
No. To the extent that they have principles I find their principles
appalling. Further, at least in the case of Stewart, the day he
pries Obama's cock out of his mouth and goes after Obama the same
way he did Bush, is the day I will have any respect for him. As it
is, he is just a government propegandist. Just because he uses
humor, doesn't mean he is not a shill for the government.
. . . and they say, "Dad, please stop, you're embarrassing us." So I quit and go home.
I've got a feeling the story of how this error got made is more interesting than anything in the actual article.
Of course, it's not the only source for the basic Chappelle story,
and the article itself is not necessarily the best retelling of it,
just one that I could find quickly.
That is quite an interesting correction, I agree.
Isn't the problem really that you don't like or can't
conceive that some people, like Greenwald and perhaps Stewart (who
admits to being liberal) actually have objective principles instead
of just "I want my party to win" principles?
The only way to tell the difference between the two is to watch how
those people react when circumstances bring them to a crossroad.
So, when Obama is "Being presidential, and governing" is he just
bringing it on in for the big win?
That picture reminds me of a joke I heard once: Man goes to doctor. Says he's depressed. Says life is harsh and cruel. Says he feels all alone in a threatening world. Doctor says, "Treatment is simple. The great clown Pagliacci is in town tonight. Go see him. That should pick you up." Man bursts into tears. Says, "But doctor… I am Pagliacci." Good joke. Everybody laugh. Roll on snare drum. Curtains.
John:
>There is something really creepy about that fact.
II would not go so far as to call it a fact. It is actually a
prediction.
He makes about one joke a week at a really easy Democratic
target. So he can use it as a fig leaf.
Last Thur., his whole opening monologue was poking fun at Obama and
(especially) Pelosi.
...goes after Obama the same way he did Bush,...
Because they have both caused exactly as much damage to our
country, I presume?
Stewart's clearly got a slant to his viewpoint, but the same can be
said of us all. Yours, John, is especially obvious.
Salvadore Dali: "I am not coprophagic, but I am
coprophilic."
Vanessa - nice bit of semantics, there. are you free later for
dinner?
jasa - like pretty much all the conservatives criticizing the
MSM for being too liberal, John's real, subconscious criticism is
"they didn't criticize [Democrat] hard enough or for the same
reason I think he should be criticized, therefore they have a
liberal bias".
The real problem is the MSM and Fox all have a pro-government
bias.
Admittedly, most journalists are liberals. However, major media
outlets are owned by big corporations, the owners of which are less
likely to be liberals. Publishers in general are, IIRC.
The non-Fox MSM (since it's ridiculous to think that Fox isn't part
of the MSM) are supposed to be objective in their reporting as a
goal. Their biases (as is true for most humans, if not all) prevent
perfect objectivity, but they usually seem to try.
Fox, OTOH, claims to be "fair and balanced", but decidedly is
not.
All are pro-government.
Props to Fox for giving Napolitano his own show, though.
Anti-props to Fox for being dicks to Ron Paul.
Here's Hitchens at his best:
Not Even a Hedgehog
The stupidity of Ronald Reagan.
By Christopher Hitchens
Not long ago, I was invited to be the specter at the feast during
"Ronald Reagan Appreciation Week" at Wabash College in Indiana. One
of my opponents was Dinesh D'Souza: He wasn't the only one who
maintained that Reagan had been historically vindicated by the
wreckage of the Soviet Union. Some of us on the left had also been
very glad indeed to see the end of the Russian empire and the Cold
War. But nothing could make me forget what the Reagan years had
actually been like.
Ronald Reagan claimed that the Russian language had no word for
"freedom." (The word is "svoboda"; it's quite well attested in
Russian literature.) Ronald Reagan said that intercontinental
ballistic missiles (not that there are any non-ballistic missiles-a
corruption of language that isn't his fault) could be recalled once
launched. Ronald Reagan said that he sought a "Star Wars" defense
only in order to share the technology with the tyrants of the
U.S.S.R. Ronald Reagan professed to be annoyed when people called
it "Star Wars," even though he had ended his speech on the subject
with the lame quip, "May the force be with you." Ronald Reagan used
to alarm his Soviet counterparts by saying that surely they'd both
unite against an invasion from Mars. Ronald Reagan used to alarm
other constituencies by speaking freely about the "End Times"
foreshadowed in the Bible. In the Oval Office, Ronald Reagan told
Yitzhak Shamir and Simon Wiesenthal, on two separate occasions,
that he himself had assisted personally at the liberation of the
Nazi death camps.
More at http://www.slate.com/id/2101842/
Aristrocrators, the joke to this point is captured at the Suki
blog.
Those of you quoted there get a free PDF download of Suki I. Just email me, the address
is easy enough to find at the site.
not that there are any non-ballistic missiles
Eh, what? Did he miss the whole cruise missile debate of the 70s?
Not watch any of the footage of the Tomahawks coming down a street
and making a turn to go blow sumpthin' up reel good during the Gulf
War?
Jon Stewart's monologues and interviews rarely offer extended
riffs on white liberalism, but his correspondent segments often
do.
Curb Your Enthusiasm and 30 Rock also regularly poke at white
liberalism from the inside. And as for mocking Williamsburg
hipsters, what about Flight of the Conchords?
"Sable Sapphist?
Jeeezis, Hitchens- how long did they hold your head
underwater?"
You must understand...
... he's British for godsakes
"Ronald Reagan said that intercontinental ballistic missiles
(not that there are any non-ballistic missiles-a corruption of
language that isn't his fault) could be recalled once
launched."
Damn, Hitch, I didn't know you could say something that dumb. What
Reagan really said was that we could send nuclear submarines, which
CAN be recalled, that launch ICBMs. His opponents lied (there is no
other work for it), and said that Reagan thought that ICBMs could
be recalled, so they could make him look bad. Sort of like the
"Bush is going to reinstitute the draft!" lie.
The smug, white liberal is incapable of laughing at
himself.
I dunno. Christian Lander, the creator of Stuff White People Like,
is himself a smug, white liberal.
(Of course, if you reply that Lander's creation of SWPL shows that
he isn't "smug," then you've effectively defined "smug, white
liberal" as "liberal who is incapable of laughing at himself,"
which makes the original statement a tautology.)
not that there are any non-ballistic missiles-a corruption
of language that isn't his fault
Yes, there are. Non-ballistic missiles are called guided
missiles.
Ronald Reagan said that intercontinental ballistic missiles
(not that there are any non-ballistic missiles-a corruption of
language that isn't his fault)
Hitchens, you moron. A cruise missile is not ballistic.
From: http://www.slate.com/id/2139034/
This was, apparently, the galvanizing moment that caused
Chappelle to reassess the intent of his comedy, and the kind of
laughs he was giving his audience. As he told Time, "I want to make
sure I'm dancing and not shuffling."
Pay me $50 million and I'll shuffle for anyone
You know who has a liberal bias, liberals...
You know that numerous studies show that the members of the MSM
(from journaleasts to editors) are overwhelmingly liberal,
right?
It's rare when I read a story or see one one TV that isn't
obviously biased. A prime case in point was the stem cell issue.
Nearly every time it was described as a ban on stem cell research.
They were so biased they couldn't even get a basic fact right: it
was a ban on FEDERALLY-FUNDED stem cell research.
Hitchens' description of Reagan toward the end of the piece is a
hoot:
One could go on. I only saw him [Reagan] once up close, which
happened to be when he got a question he didn't like. Was it true
that his staff in the 1980 debates had stolen President Carter's
briefing book? (They had.) The famously genial grin turned into a
rictus of senile fury: I was looking at a cruel and stupid lizard.
His reply was that maybe his staff had, and maybe they hadn't, but
what about the leak of the Pentagon Papers? Thus, a secret theft of
presidential documents was equated with the public disclosure of
needful information. This was a man never short of a cheap jibe or
the sort of falsehood that would, however laughable, buy him some
time.
http://www.slate.com/id/2101842/
Lefiti
Are you under the impression that this blog is populated by devoted
Reaganites?
You know that numerous studies show that the members of the
MSM (from journaleasts to editors) are overwhelmingly liberal,
right?
What do you expect them to be? Look at who describes themselves as
conservative/Republican these days. That's right, mouth-breathing
morons from bumfuck nowhere who don't know anything. Journalists,
academics, and all the other members of the evil worldwide
conspiracy to oppress you are liberals because they are smart
people.
"Are you under the impression that this blog is populated by
devoted Reaganites?"
Of course not. I assume that the intelligent folks who post here
have as much contempt for Reagan as I do.
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