Ronald Bailey | May 19, 2009
Today, New York Times science
correspondent John Tierney discusses what people are trying to
signal when they buy prestige products and it turns out that it's
mostly about sex. Tierney cites the work of University of New
Mexico evolutionary psychologist Geoffrey Miller in his new book,
Spent: Sex, Evolution and Consumer
Behavior. Consider this:
Suppose, during a date, you casually say, “The sugar maples in Harvard Yard were so beautiful every fall term.” Here’s what you’re signaling, as translated by Dr. Miller:
“My S.A.T. scores were sufficiently high (roughly 720 out of 800) that I could get admitted, so my I.Q. is above 135, and I had sufficient conscientiousness, emotional stability and intellectual openness to pass my classes. Plus, I can recognize a tree.”
Tierney goes to discuss some fascinating experiments run by Miller and his colleagues:
Dr. Miller and other researchers found that people were more likely to expend money and effort on products and activities if they were first primed with photographs of the opposite sex or stories about dating.
After this priming, men were more willing to splurge on designer sunglasses, expensive watches and European vacations. Women became more willing to do volunteer work and perform other acts of conspicuous charity — a signal of high conscientiousness and agreeableness, like demonstrating your concern for third world farmers by spending extra for Starbucks’s “fair trade” coffee.
These signals can be finely nuanced, as Dr. Miller parses them in his book. The “conspicuous precision” of a BMW or a Lexus helps signal the intelligence of all the owners, but the BMW’s “conspicuous reputation” also marks its owner as more extraverted and less agreeable (i.e., more aggressive). Owners of Toyotas and Hondas are signaling high conscientiousness by driving reliable and economical cars.
But Miller claims all this consumerist signaling doesn't get us much or make us especially happy. So why do we do it?
“Evolution is good at getting us to avoid death, desperation and celibacy, but it’s not that good at getting us to feel happy,” he says, calling our desire to impress strangers a quirky evolutionary byproduct of a smaller social world.
“We evolved as social primates who hardly ever encountered strangers in prehistory,” Dr. Miller says. “So we instinctively treat all strangers as if they’re potential mates or friends or enemies. But your happiness and survival today don’t depend on your relationships with strangers. It doesn’t matter whether you get a nanosecond of deference from a shopkeeper or a stranger in an airport.”
Whole Tierney article can be found here.
For the record: I drive a 1996 Jaguar XJ6 with 102,000 miles on it.
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it turns out that it's mostly about sex.
...and what isn't?
I have a 350Z because I'm an engineer, and I appreciate a great little machine with high performance at a modest cost. Of course, I do enjoy it when people stop and stare.
Goddamnit, can't people just like things because they like
them?
Not everything is social signaling, unless (to quote the one whose
name shall not be spoken), they are pure second-handers.
I know we're all primates, but some of us try not to live like
we're just another ape in the shrewdness.*
*I had to look up the name for a group of apes. I like this
term.
Suppose, during a date, you casually say, "The sugar maples
in Harvard Yard were so beautiful every fall term." Here's what
you're signaling,
"I'm a huge poser, who probably hasn't ever been to Harvard Yard,
because, although it is full of trees, not more than a couple of
them are sugar maples."
That's what your signalling.
"I'm a huge poser, who probably hasn't ever been to Harvard Yard, because, although it is full of trees, not more than a couple of them are sugar maples."
What Dean is signaling is that he is a Hahvahd man!
As any who's been married will tell you, a mate is also a potential enemy...
The second gen (new) 6 series licks ass (and not in a wholesome,
loving, Biblical way). The first gen 6 from the 80's was a FAR more
attractive car.
If only they had made a convertible....
Women became more willing to do volunteer work and perform
other acts of conspicuous charity - a signal of high
conscientiousness and agreeableness, like demonstrating your
concern for third world farmers by spending extra for Starbucks's
"fair trade" coffee.
Seee... I abolsultely hate this crap and refuse to engage in
it.
"We evolved as social primates who hardly ever encountered
strangers in prehistory," Dr. Miller says.
How in the hell does he know this? I may have to read his book,
just to see what evidence he uses to justify this claim.
also, I don't own a car.
For the record: I drive a 1996 Jaguar XJ6 with 102,000 miles
on it.
But do you play a mean
guitar, Bailey?
Seee... I abolsultely hate this crap and refuse to engage in
it.
I feel the same way about the fancy cars, which is why I'll stick
with my Subaru Outback while everybody else in the office tools
around in their Mercedes. Plus I'm much more concerned about
getting down my alley when there's two feet of snow than impressing
strangers.
Dello-I drove a hopped up 80s 6 series a year or two ago (I was
thinking about buying it, but because I'm a car nut and 6 series
are cool), and it was one hell of a vehicle. But I guess I didn't
like the handling, the smooth action of the BMW gearbox, the
break-your-freaking-neck brakes, or the
holy-shit-how-did-I-get-to-100mph engine. I just wanted to
signal.
I'm sure the Doctor is right in at least some cases, but the
universality of his presumptions pisses me off. A lot.
The second gen (new) 6 series licks ass (and not in a
wholesome, loving, Biblical way). The first gen 6 from the 80's was
a FAR more attractive car.
If only they had made a convertible....
There was a Miami Vice episode (circa 4th/5th season) that had a
custom convertible M635csi. It was rather cool.
That's what your signalling.
But what does using "your" instead of "you're" signal?
"As any who's been married will tell you, a mate is also a
potential enemy..."
How many years did you do?
For the record: I drive a 1996 Jaguar XJ6 with 102,000 miles
on it.
Hang in there, Ron; cash for clunkers is coming to bail
you out.
"But what does using "your" instead of "you're"
signal?"
A premium on rapid response over careful editing?
ClubMedSux-No, no, no! You're signalling that you're practical
and a non-conformist.
This is like the whole, "Denying you are an alcoholic just proves
that you're an alcoholic" idea so beloved by some shrinks. When you
have no empirical evidence, and are not required to, you can
conclude whatever the hell you want.
I feel the same way about the fancy cars, which is why I'll
stick with my Subaru Outback while everybody else in the office
tools around in their Mercedes.
The '06 350Z gets driven from easter to thanksgiving, then the '02
Exterra comes out. My wife drives a shiny new '09 Forrester.
I have the Z just because the kids have been gone for years so I
can now live like the elitist prick that everyone calls me.
I drove a 1973 SIIA 88" Land Rover (like the one in "The Gods
Must be Crazy."
What does that say about me?
Besides that I don't close my parentheticals... or use the preview button?
I drove a 1973 SIIA 88" Land Rover (like the one in "The
Gods Must be Crazy."
What does that say about me?
That you're not in a hurry.
I've never cared what a guy's car looks like either.
I really don't know why men think women care. How many women do you
know who are interested in cars anyway? Guy starts talking about
his car ... instant boredom.
Hazel, lots of women have cared about my Echo. They're interested until they find out it's not a hybrid, just a plain old gas-only econobox, and suddenly remember that they were supposed to eat dinner with their roommates that night.
People do signal with their car choices. With my Honda CRV I signal "My wife makes all the decisions." Her BMW signals "I make all the decisions." My boss' baffling decision to purchase a Subaru Outback signals "I'm a lesbian. And so, apparently, is my husband."
I've never cared what a guy's car looks like
either.
Do you care what it smells like?
So why not just buy clothes at Goodwill, drive an old beater, and use the new pile of discretionary income to different hire hot "escorts" every weekend?
Buying a Lexus says "I just spent too much for a Toyota". In the long run I wouldn't get along with a gal who was impressed by a Lexus.
"So why not just buy clothes at Goodwill, drive an old beater,
and use the new pile of discretionary income to different hire hot
"escorts" every weekend?"
Something similar has worked out well for me in the past.
I drive a Honda Civic, so all the conservative chicks think I won't buy American. But it's not a hybrid so all the liberal chicks think I don't care about saving the planet. Fortunately there are still libertarian chicks. They've got to be around here somewhere...
Suppose, during a date, you casually say, "The sugar maples
in Harvard Yard were so beautiful every fall term." Here's what
you're signaling, as translated by Me:
I'm so single mindedly ambitious that I spent every single day on
campus focused on my studies, and never once took a weekend to
drive up to Vermont.
Clearly the guy who Tierney is quoting doesnt work in sales or
the entertainment biz, where your happiness DOES depend on the
reactions of strangers.
Out here, the choice of car is as important as the choice of
clothes; not only are you signaling wealth and previous success,
you're also signaling your tribe, and your understanding of pop
culture and the prevailing aesthetic.
When your business is this dependent on social skills and first
impressions, you can't ignore the fatal implications of a
used-Subaru purchase.
Is there any variable in his thinking for "car guys?"
the universality of his presumptions pisses me off. A
lot.
Totally. I drove BMWs most of my driving life. An '81 or '82 320i,
a 1992 325is and a 2003 M3. I finally sold the M3 last year to by a
Mercedes Benz WAGON (at least it is a 500).
My wife, who does love cars and drives an '01 Audi TT turbo
quattro, didn't marry me for my cars, nor did she make me get rid
of my M. We have 3 dogs and they certainly weren't going to fit in
either of our cars, really.
Now, all that being said, I drove them because I liked they way
they drive. A lot (especially the M, god what a great car). Jesus,
I hardly even washed them! Does that fit into his calculations?
Fucking Sociologists. FUCK YOU!
What about Prius drivers? Smug assholes? Or what about the fact
that in my own humble experience Prius drivers race around like
there are driving race cars? What does that say? You know what? I
don't care, because you sir, are a giant douche.
One's choice of a vehicle says a lot about their evolutionary fitness. Thats why I have a jaguar. A real one. With a saddle. Terrible mileage, I get about 20 miles per small animal, but you should see the looks I get going down the highway.
Yeah, I'm a non-signaler. I'm a well-paid engineer in SoCal who
drives a 2000 Ford Ranger with 120K miles on it... Obviously I
don't care what random people on the road think...
Which of course is BS. Anyone who studies signaling knows that this
is merely "negative signaling", telling the world that I think I'm
superior to their petty rat race and will drive whatever the f*ck I
want. Number 6 above [inadvertently] hits the nail on the head, in
that driving what I drive signals I'm a non-conformist, not that
I'm against signaling.
(And most of my other signals fall under SugarFree's assertion
above -- i.e. "my wife makes all the decisions")...
But what does using "your" instead of "you're"
signal?
That even a a Hahvahd man can fall victim to joe'z Memorial
Law.
A premium on rapid response over careful editing?
Or that.
Brandybuck, there's still the 1/3 of the U.S. population that is
independent and probably doesn't give a shit if you drive American
or care about the environment.
Happy hunting.
"Number 6 above [inadvertently] hits the nail on the head, in
that driving what I drive signals I'm a non-conformist, not that
I'm against signaling."
Sam Walton drove a pickup truck.
I know we're all primates, but some of us try not to live like we're just another ape in the shrewdness.*
*I had to look up the name for a group of apes. I like this term.
Because they're back in town, I went googling up info on chimney
swifts today. It turns out what I witnessed hunting near and over
the river last evening was a "screaming frenzy" of swifts.
It may be the best term I've heard yet for a collection of
animals.
NOT SO MUCH.
There's a reason we buy things out of vanity and need for approval
-
and a good one. Because - as Malcolm Gladwell will tell you -
first
impressions and snap judgements may as well run our lives.
In primitive societies it would have been much more difficult to
find
a mate. There were so few options. In today's society, an
individual
must differentiate his/her self from the masses. What better way
to
show the kind of lifestyle you live (i.e. what your true values
are)
than to display it in the clothes you wear, the car you drive,
the
music you enjoy? Success is best demonstrated instantly - visually
-
not through words. The "stuff" we buy immediately differentiates
us
from others - and first impressions are very important, as are
looks.
You can try really hard to communicate in words how much you love
punk
rock music (for example), but, it's not going to hold much water
if
you don't have spiky hair, or at least a leather jacket. Someone
who
is "out there" looking for a mate who likes punk rock will
almost
automatically rule out anyone who looks on the surface like
they
aren't a "punk" themselves - unless they spend enough time with
them
to come to another conclusion, and even then, there may be
some
dissonance.
Creating these "impressions" for others (and yourself), is a way
of
cementing identity - something not mentioned in the article or
above
post, and an important part of modern life and mating. Finding
or
crafting an identity can also inspire confidence and
self-esteem,
which most certainly leads to happiness - if not a mate. So, you
see,
buying stuff CAN lead to happiness after all.
These days, though, what with the internet and such a broad
division
of subcultures and niches, kids don't need to be as
materialistic.
There are other ways to advertise your identity (Facebook and
Myspace). So, I think, the next generation will be less
susceptible
to branding, and more focused on appearing versatile and
intelligent.
I'm with Kool on this one, too. BMWs drive like a fucking dream. That's why you buy them. I've never felt so good in a car.
So, I think, the next generation will be less susceptible to
branding, and more focused on appearing versatile and
intelligent.
Of course, the way to appear versatile and intelligent is have the
brands associated with versatility and intelligence.
Out here, the choice of car is as important as the choice of
clothes; not only are you signaling wealth and previous success,
you're also signaling your tribe, and your understanding of pop
culture and the prevailing aesthetic.
Jay Leno frequently tools around the Burbank area on weekends in
one of his classic cars. Jay has lots of money, he earned it, and
good for him.
You cannot be Jay Leno just by a driving a car that Jay Leno would
drive.
JK,
While driving Jay Leno's car won't make you Jay Leno (does anyone
actually want to BE Jay Leno? I just want his wallet) your choice
of cars, stuff, clothes, hair, will definitely help you in making
connections with those people who can assist you in your climb
toward Leno-dom.
In the entertainment world, you're always trying to meet the
influential person who can greenlight your project. Which means
you're auditioning every minute of the day--whether you're a
writer, publicist, producer, whatever--and until you get at the
Spielberg level of success, you don't dare risk giving out the
wrong message.
As Zac notes above, there is so much competition for the fun stuff,
and few people have the time or inclination to spend more than a
nano-second dealing with you unless you can give evidence that
you're both of the same mindset.
On a related note: Are no libertarians in sales?
My fantasy car is a Mercury Grand Marquis with a V8 engine. A sofa on wheels. It even has smoker's package with a lighter and an ashtray.
Yesterday I wa driving to town with my daughter. She is a few weeks away from 17. We stopped at a light and she went nuts over the truck next to us. It was an old split window, single cab volkswagen. I am so proud of her.
In the entertainment world, you're always trying to meet the
influential person who can greenlight your project. Which means
you're auditioning every minute of the day--whether you're a
writer, publicist, producer, whatever--and until you get at the
Spielberg level of success, you don't dare risk giving out the
wrong message.
This might explain why everything coming out of Hollywood sucks so
incredibly hard.
Mari Dupont,
Nice name. I got into an argument several years ago with a longtime
friend about The Simpsons.
He was aghast that the show didn't use real actors and employ them.
Instead it used animation that did not require real actors. (Many
real actors have done the voice for the program.)
He didn't take into account that the animation included a lot of
skilled people who are not celebrities with fantastic salaries and
bling.
He was aghast that the show didn't use real actors and employ them. Instead it used animation that did not require real actors. (Many real actors have done the voice for the program.)
I think the show wouldn't be in its 20th year if we had to see Bart
reach the age of 30 :-)
They're interested until they find out it's not a hybrid,
just a plain old gas-only econobox, and suddenly remember that they
were supposed to eat dinner with their roommates that
night.
That would have the opposite effect on me.
I would be impressed that your car purchase was made purely for
self-interested economical reasons that had absolutely nothing to
do with environmental friendliness. But which illustrates the fact
that economic efficiency is good for the environment without
conscious (or self-conscious) effort.
Didn't everybody already know this?
Several people above have been kind enough to remind me why I am
not in the entertainment business, sales/advertising or some high
powered business career. Fuck that.
I drive a 1992 Subaru because I am a tight wad and because there is
no better car and new cars annoy me. And I could pay cash for a new
(bottom of the line) BMW tomorrow if I wanted to.
You say on a date "The sugar maples in Harvard Yard were so
beautiful every fall term"?
Here's what you're signaling: "I am so gay."*
*Also, "I so did not go to Harvard."
I drive a '99 Camry, which signals "I drive the car my wife gave
up when she bought the minivan, and don't give a fuck about buying
a penile extension masquerading as a car"
I don't know what signals I sent by writing a CL ad advertising
that I'll send hot, naughty, smutty erotic stories to wild women,
and now spend several hours each day sending the responding women
naughty emails, including a pierced 18 year old femme fatale.
This is, however, WAY more fun than a fucking Beemer. Happiness
> prestige.
"The sugar maples in Harvard Yard were so beautiful every fall
term"?
I have the capacity to distinguish a carnivorous tree from a
deciduous one. Well, not exactly. One has needles and the other has
leaves. I am not sure which is which.
I can distinguish a Apple computer from a PC at about a distance of
40 meters.
I have the capacity to distinguish a carnivorous tree from a deciduous one. Well, not exactly. One has needles and the other has leaves. I am not sure which is which.
I'll give you a hint. The one that tries to eat you is
carnivorous.
Which is decidedly different than coniferous.
Instead it used animation that did not require real actors.
Bah, a skilled voice actor is a real actor, as much as they were
actors back in radio dramas.
You mean coniferous?
OK, I gotta join the scouts or something. Being bare in the woods
is not the same as seeing a bear in woods.
Congratulations John Tierney for the enlightened realization
that "sex sells"....
PS: Welcome to 1855, when we all already knew this!
=D
PS: Welcome to 1855, when we all already knew
this!
OK, I'll bite. The birth control pill came around in the early
1960's. What happened in 1855?
My C5 Corvette says I like fast shiny things, and Al Gore's corpse on the front bumper says I'm aggressively uninterested in global warming.
I have the capacity to distinguish a carnivorous tree from a
deciduous one.
I'm guessing your first clue was when it bit you.
TallDave,
Would you prefer that I clobber you with a branch from a sugar
maple, black maple, blanch maple, or mountain maple.
I've never cared what a guy's car looks like either.
I really don't know why men think women care. How many women do you
know who are interested in cars anyway? Guy starts talking about
his car ... instant boredom.
Well Hazel, you might not care (at least consciously), but that's
just anecdotal. Men think women care because the fact is, in
general, they do (not necessarily about the exact model of car, but
rather the level of "success" it signals). It is absolutely
incontrovertible that, in general, women are attracted to
"successful" men (and by successful I primarily mean in the limited
financial sense, of course). Saying that isn't so is like trying to
claim that men, in general, are not attracted to young, beautiful
women. It's nonsense. I'd be willing to bet my, albeit modest,
fortune on the proposition that a random sample of women riding in
a guy's BMW are, on average, far more attractive than a random
sample of women riding in a guy's Toyota Corolla. If women really
don't care about cars (and, more to the point, what that car
signals) why would this be the case?
Again, as I tried to make clear above, this is an overall, on
average, argument. Of course we all know individual
counter-examples and people who don't fit this picture. But overall
we all know it's true and we've all known it's true for a long
time, as others have pointed out.
This is self-selection bias. You can make a plausible case that one's choice of car is meant to send signals to the opposite sex, and in many cases you'd be right. But by concentrating on that fact, you're going to ignore a very large sub-set of the car-buying population who bought their car simply because they liked it.
Dfd,
You're right. No sane woman wants to HEAR about your new BMW, but
we are VERY interested in knowing you can afford one.
PLUS, the flashy car implies a flashy lifestyle: expensive
restaurants, parties, etc etc etc.
In other words, hanging out with Mr. BMW will likely be more
exciting than hanging with Joe Used Corolla.
As far as who is riding in the passenger seat of those new BMW's, I
agree with your claim: it's not the Susan Boyles of the
world.
I base my findings on years of research done while eating lunch
every day on Sunset Boulevard, where zillions of expensive cars
whiz every minute.
The number of overweight, dowdy, unfashionable women parked in the
passenger seats could probably fit together in single BMW
trunk.
Bah, a skilled voice actor is a real actor, as much as they were actors back in radio dramas.
+1
re: Jon the myrmidon | May 19, 2009, 2:44pm | #
Thanks. This made me giggle like a schoolgirl.
I have 4 vehicles (yes, just me, not family) and no dates...I think I'm doing it wrong...oh well, I guess the explanation would be that my genes are suicidal.
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