Jeff Winkler | May 7, 2009
Holy Mother Marmite, New
Zealand is 0-fer-3 this week. First they denied a visa to a
much-needed doctor because he was a health risk. Then
the Advertising Standards Authority and the Salvation Army ambushed the makers
of the drink "Cocaine" for legitimizing the White Lady.
And yesterday, in an attempt to curb gang violence, the NZ Parliament passed a law banning insignia and patches in public places:
Parliament last night narrowly voted through a member's bill from Whanganui MP Chester Borrows that allows the district council to make bylaws banning all gang insignia, except tattoos, from public places.
Wanganui Mayor Michael Laws said he would ask the council to enact bylaws as soon as possible. He expected the provision would be rolled out to other councils as many mayors had told him they wanted similar powers....
The law allows the council to designate public areas where gang patches and other insignia identified with certain gangs cannot be worn.
The targeted gangs are the Mongrel Mob, Black Power, Hells Angels, Magogs, Mothers, Nomads and Tribesmen, but the council can add others.
Fines of up to [$1,181] will be imposed for breaching a ban, and police will have the power to seize patches and other insignia.
The law only applies to the Whanganui district (the country has 56) but it's a Kiwi first. It also opens up the door for similar bans across the country. Thanks to the law, officials in other districts are now vocally considering bylaws banning patches and insignia.
New Zealand politicians tend to be pretty zealous when it comes to making statements to the press. Wanganui Mayor/columnist/radio personality Michael Laws has a reputation for political rebellion and is known for being very, er, verbose (he also has a reputation for resigning from Parliament in disgrace). He called the act:
a triumph for decency and democracy. This has huge implications for New Zealand. I can't tell you how absolutely thrilled I am.
Don't worry, though. The head of the Libertarianz party, Richard McGrath, responded in kind:
"The outlawing of gang insignia is clearly at odds with the NZ Bill of Rights Act 1990 which states that everyone has the right to freedom of expression, including the freedom to seek, receive, and impart information and opinions of any kind in any form...
"The other change New Zealand needs is to...replace [the Bill of Rights Act ] with a constitution such as that proposed by the Libertarianz Party, which offers ironclad protection of individual rights."
"Ultimately, the best way to deal with gangs is to wipe out the incentive for joining them in the first place...With enforcement of property rights, with constitutional guarantees to allow New Zealanders to act in self-defence using adequate retaliatory force, with the financial undermining of gangs by legalising the sale of recreational drugs, and by locking up criminals and forcing them to compensate their victims, the attractiveness of gangs to young people would be significantly diminished.
The gang violence is a serious issue, but banning someone who sews their heart to their sleeve is the wrong approach. It'll be interesting if rival Kiwi gangs take a cue from their Australian counterparts and band together against government action. There is one positive aspect of this ban: it's slightly less ridiculous than the Kiwi's Hoodie Scare, which prompted proposed bans, a weird awareness day, and an even weirder anti-awareness day.
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As un-libertarian as it may seem, I could get behind a ban like this in the US, provided police departments were included among the dangerous gangs.
So does this mean I need to un-send my job application to that NZ biotech company?
Any country that is afraid of something they call "bikies" deserves to live in fear. Or is it the Kiwis that call them bikies? They all look and sound the same.
hmm,
It's the Aussies who call bikers "bikies". They also call a vagina
a "map of tassie".
But it's not fair to criticize them for being afraid of something
called "bikies" when we (one of our major cities, at least) are
afraid of something called a Lite-Brite.
It logically follows that a leather vest featuring a coloful
Lite-Brite patch is the most frightening thing on earth, especially
if an photo of it has been taken on a teenager's cellphone and
posted to facebook.
Jemaine: It doesn't matter what country someone's from, or what
they look like, or the color of their skin. It doesn't matter what
they smell like, or that they spell words slightly
differently...some would say, more correctly.
Sinjay: Yeah...
Jemaine: Let me finish. I'm a person. Bret's a person. You're a
person. That person over there is a person. And each person
deserves to be treated like a person.
Sinjay: That's a great speech. Too bad New Zealanders are a bunch
of cocky a-holes descended from criminals and retarded
monkeys.
Jemaine: No, you're thinking of Australians.
Bret: Yeah, that's Australians.
Thanks Episiarch, thanks for the slap down. The Conchords also
had an episode when one of the boys accidentally went home with an
Aussie girl and didn't realise her nationality till the next
morning.
Hilarity ensues.
But seriously the gangs in Kiwi are hardcore. They are a lot more
prevalent than the ones in Oz and are more violent and
intimidating.
I'm Libertarian but consider the right to walk the streets without
fear is pretty important, too.
On the other hand the gangs first response should be to drop the
patches and wear coloured bandannas or armbands.
Lets see the pollies start banning red hankies or green
kerchiefs...
DavidF of Oz,
A gun my friend. NO ONE is tougher than a Glock. I don't care how
much you work out, who you hang out with, or what you've done in
the past, the Glock will always win in such situations. I'm
extremely thankful I've never felt so threatened that I had to even
show it.
Oh, and DRINK!!!
Nice link Naga.
I'll admit I felt a bit awkward using the "but" in there, it felt a
kinda mealy mouthed.
One point about your Glock is that the US has a gun culture (I'm
not knocking it) but in Oz and NZ we don't. Even before the 90's
gun laws it was extremely uncommon for city people to own
guns.
Even if the laws were repealed there would never be a boom in gun
sales for self defense.
Another point of having a gun culture is that there is a lot of
institutional knowledge about handling guns and how to treat them.
We don't have that.
Its like cars. We are all taught to be careful around roads and how
to behave sensibly behind the wheel. But a guy from the New Guinea
highlands doesn't have that knowledge and a crash course in the
basics won't cut it.
So I don't think an armed population is a solution for us.
Incidentally Kiwi police don't carry guns.
The Conchords also had an episode when one of the boys
accidentally went home with an Aussie girl and didn't realise her
nationality till the next morning.
Best. Episode. Evar.
"It's like an evil version of our accents."
A gun my friend. NO ONE is tougher than a Glock. I don't
care how much you work out, who you hang out with, or what you've
done in the past, the Glock will always win in such situations. I'm
extremely thankful I've never felt so threatened that I had to even
show it.
Handguns are illegal in NZ, Naga. You can keep one at a shooting
club though, I think. I'm pretty sure you'd never be allowed to
"concealed carry" any gun either.
Here
is an article about the NZ gangs. Interesting first couple
paragraphs:
Crime ain't what it used to be in a town like Christchurch. Back in the day there was Sweaty Betty and her 24/7 poker game out in Opawa. But the casino and the liberalisation of gaming laws put paid to the illegal bookie trade and gambling dens like hers.
Prostitution was another good underworld racket spoilt by legalisation.
Then it goes on to talk about the gangs and drugs (meth) trade.
Hmmm. I wonder if there's something they could do. Something
they've tried with other consensual "crimes" that would stop drug
violence in its tracks. Hmmm.
The worst thing about this (well, apart from its curtailing of
freedom of expression I guess) is that
three of the five MPs from the ACT Party, the self-described
classical liberal party voted for it.
I'm not sure why people think New Zealand is a libertarian
paradise. We're as paternalistic as anyone down here and the
free-market reforms of the '80s have been significantly
reversed.
We do currently have
a guy holed up in a house with guns after shooting a cop during
a routine marijuana raid, so some of us are willing to protect our
property. The public reaction hasn't been too favourable,
however.
But seriously the gangs in Kiwi are hardcore. They are a lot
more prevalent than the ones in Oz and are more violent and
intimidating.
I'm Libertarian but consider the right to walk the streets without
fear is pretty important, too.
I'm sure that taking away their insignia will cause they gangs to
reform their violent ways, and make the streets much safer.
NO ONE is tougher than a Glock
Colt 1911 is tougher than your tupperware gun!!!
(that was stupid gun rivalry and sarcasm)
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