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Drugs Are Getting Cheaper
The prices of hard drugs like heroin and cocaine have been declining for two decades, despite billions of drug war dollars spent to restrict supply. Then there's this headline today on CNN.com:
Don't worry though. The drug war is totally working.
Via Best of the Web
Elemenope|4.13.09 @ 4:42PM|#
Ouch. Quick, someone find a drug warrior to go on the record with an utterly stupid non sequitor!
|4.13.09 @ 4:46PM|#
Heroin cheaper than six-pack of beer
I need to switch drugs. My IPAs are costing me too much.
|4.13.09 @ 4:47PM|#
We can send a man to the moon, but we can't secure a drug free future for our children.
|4.13.09 @ 4:48PM|#
(Our children who were conceived while we were drunk, born while we were on demerol, and raised with the assistance of caffeine, nicotine and Sailor Jerry rum.)
|4.13.09 @ 4:51PM|#
We just need to spend more money on the WoD. That would fix things. Oh, and we'd also need the Right Person In Charge.
|4.13.09 @ 4:51PM|#
"My IPAs are costing me too much."
Bell's Kalamazoo Stout was the correct answer.
|4.13.09 @ 4:55PM|#
"We can't send a man to the moon. Not any more."
Yeah, right. And the space station and shuttle just "orbit" the
earth. Riiiightt. We have men living in the moon's core as we
speak.
|4.13.09 @ 4:56PM|#
From the article:
Doreen Ciappa says she had no idea the packets she found among Natalie's belongings after her first overdose were actually heroin. "I had spent hours on the internet trying to figure out what they were."
What. The. Fuck. Your kid overdosed and you were mystified as to
the packets of white powder you found in her room? Congratulations:
I am dumbfounded by your stupidity.
kinnath|4.13.09 @ 4:56PM|#
We'll be free when we can home brew our heroin like we can home brew our stout.
|4.13.09 @ 4:56PM|#
Nah, Warty, I just discovered Inversion IPA and that's my new thing. Malt liquor is actually weaker (Inversion is 6.8%), you humongous pussy.
|4.13.09 @ 5:00PM|#
And SugarBear, the day comes full circle to your Old English story. Well done everyone.
dhex|4.13.09 @ 5:01PM|#
in fairness to the mom, i don't think i'd know what a packet of heroin looks like either. i would, however, *assume* they were heroin.
|4.13.09 @ 5:01PM|#
Lamar,
Hope you're right. Because we're not even going to be sending
people to LEO without foreign help from 2010 - 2016 (and that date
keeps getting pushed out).
If we do have FTL travel already, could someone involved let me
know? That would be so awesome.
Jerry Pournelle|4.13.09 @ 5:04PM|#
When I was in high school in the 1940's I read science fiction and knew that I would live to see the first man on the Moon. I did not know I would live to see the last one.
|4.13.09 @ 5:04PM|#
What. The. Fuck. Your kid overdosed and you were mystified
as to the packets of white powder you found in her room?
Yeah, what's going on there? "I hate drugs SO BADLY that I
agressively refuse to absorb even the most basic information about
such EVIL substances." Perhaps a wee bit counterproductive. Just a
thought.
Zeb|4.13.09 @ 5:06PM|#
"Lamar | April 13, 2009, 4:55pm | #
"We can't send a man to the moon. Not any more."
Yeah, right. And the space station and shuttle just "orbit" the
earth. Riiiightt. We have men living in the moon's core as we
speak."
Not only that, we are actually, at this moment, fighting a secret
war with the Chinese over territory on the far side of the
moon.
|4.13.09 @ 5:08PM|#
"Not only that, we are actually, at this moment, fighting a
secret war with the Chinese over territory on the far side of the
moon."
I heard that the Chinese are going to be drilling for American oil
on the moon.
|4.13.09 @ 5:13PM|#
It's (seriously) difficult to tell if drugs are getting cheaper. (1) inflation. (2) getting older and making more money. (3) making more money and demanding higher quality. (4) making more money and demanding a more discrete transfer.
|4.13.09 @ 5:13PM|#
We need a couple of pipe-hittin' niggers to go to work on John Walters with a pair of pliers and a blow torch.
Dello|4.13.09 @ 5:15PM|#
If it gets any cheaper, it will become cost effective enough to include as cereal box toys.
|4.13.09 @ 5:16PM|#
Gene Cernan was the last human on the moon. . .and that was in
December 1972. It's absolutely shocking to me that we haven't been
anywhere but LEO since then. Pathetic.
Still, I'm hopeful that the private sector will finally get us into
space in a big way in the coming decades. SpaceX, Bigelow, etc. all
have promise.
|4.13.09 @ 5:16PM|#
"If it gets any cheaper, it will become cost effective
enough to include as cereal box toys."
Frosted Mini-Weeds.
before there were troofers|4.13.09 @ 5:31PM|#
Gene Cernan was the last human on the moon. . .and that was
in December 1972. It's absolutely shocking to me that we haven't
been anywhere but LEO since then. Pathetic.
Yeah, why has it been so long? With all the advances in special
effects since then it'd be a lot easier to fake another moon
landing today than it was to fake the original.
|4.13.09 @ 5:33PM|#
The problem with space is that its really expensive to get
anything done, and its always much cheaper and more effective just
to send a bloody robot.
It's an awful lot of money to spend just for the symbolism of
having a dude putter around where no dude has puttered around
before.
|4.13.09 @ 5:35PM|#
That anyone thinks that the War on Drugs has been anything other
than a colossal failure boggles the mind. We humans are members of
a stupid species.*
* 'Cept for SugarFree and Epi. Still members of a stupid species,
but they're likely not human.
Paul|4.13.09 @ 5:36PM|#
It's absolutely shocking to me that we haven't been anywhere
but LEO since then. Pathetic.
I dunno, I think Americans have reached the point where we look at
Mars and say "pff, too far!"
Besides, space travel isn't sustainable...
or something.
|4.13.09 @ 5:38PM|#
Ha, ha.
In any case, Buzz Aldrin answered the moon
hoax nut question a while back.
toxic,
If we just go to plant flags, then I can't argue the point. But if
we actually went to stay, humans can do an order of magnitude
better science than robots at today's state of the art. And there's
a lot more to space than science. Really, all we need to do is
figure out a way to get to orbit cheaply. Once that happens, the
solar system will open up to us.
Alice Bowie|4.13.09 @ 5:40PM|#
Keep Dope Alive!!!
Had we done so, this girl would probably b alive 2-day. 2Days
herion is much more pure than that stuff mixed with milk sugar,
pieces of brick, and god knows what from the 70's and 80's.
Had it been legal, a recommended dose would have been
available.
God knows what the street pushers put in it. That's what makes it
dangerous...and of course, it's addictive properties.
PEOPLE NEED to take responsibility for their own life.
The WoD has done nothing but raise supply, lower prices, propagate
a class of clandestine chemical drugs that are more dangerous than
the natural drugs, ruin lives, careers, and sent almost 3
generations of blacks/latinos to prison FOR NOTHING !!!
|4.13.09 @ 5:54PM|#
Warren | April 13, 2009, 5:13pm | #
We need a couple of pipe-hittin' niggers to go to work on John Walters with a pair of pliers and a blow torch.
So, what your are saying is that we need to get medieval on his ass?
|4.13.09 @ 5:55PM|#
Still members of a stupid species, but they're likely not
human.
We can still breed with your women, Hoo-man!
BakedPenguin|4.13.09 @ 5:55PM|#
What impressed me was the number of commenters who said
something like "I sympathize with her family, but the drug war
didn't stop her, and it's not stopping anyone else, we should quit
fighting it."
I really think the center of gravity is shifting on this issue. I
also don't think there's going to be another Nancy Reagan to come
along and change public opinion for the WoD again. The negative
effects of it are becoming too clear.
So, who besides me voted in CNNs dumbass poll?
I did, but it just showed "0%" for all choices.
|4.13.09 @ 5:58PM|#
J sub D | April 13, 2009, 5:41pm | #
So, who besides me voted in CNNs dumbass poll?
I tried, but the poll "results" show 0% across the board.
|4.13.09 @ 6:00PM|#
Dagny,
Exactly. My mom thought everything was drugs. She once came
storming into my room rattling a 35mm canister at me, screaming
about "pills." I opened it and poured out my D&D dice.
In retrospect, I wish it had been pills.
MNG|4.13.09 @ 6:02PM|#
"Not only that, we are actually, at this moment, fighting a
secret war with the Chinese over territory on the far side of the
moon."
If the Chinese had lasers strapped to their heads and our soldiers
had robotic claw hands that would be so fucking cool!
JP|4.13.09 @ 6:07PM|#
It's (seriously) difficult to tell if drugs are getting
cheaper. (1) inflation. (2) getting older and making more money.
(3) making more money and demanding higher quality. (4) making more
money and demanding a more discrete transfer.
And (5) beer keeps getting more expensive.
|4.13.09 @ 6:12PM|#
Still members of a stupid species, but they're likely not
human.
While I am Kryptonian, NutraSweet is from Uranus. And man, does he
smell like it. Did you know the Klingons are constantly circling
his planet?
Elemenope|4.13.09 @ 6:18PM|#
Warren, that was delightfully offensive. Well
done.
You don't recognize a Pulp Fiction reference when you see
one? For shame.
BakedPenguin|4.13.09 @ 6:19PM|#
She once came storming into my room rattling a 35mm canister at me, screaming about "pills." I opened it and poured out my D&D dice.
Sure. You just found some icosagonal Dilaudid.
Also: reference
|4.13.09 @ 6:21PM|#
BP,
Hmm... Dilaudid. I would have enjoyed it more if I hadn't been
bleeding so much.
BakedPenguin|4.13.09 @ 6:25PM|#
Sorry to hear about the bleeding , but I doubt that. Dilaudid is
the sort of thing you enjoy if you're in pain, and enjoy more if
you're not in pain. At least you took care of that albino
assassin.
And speaking of blotter acid, my dad once asked me (during my
teenage years) if I was on "pills". I felt truthful saying no,
because I was taking blotter LSD, not pills.
|4.13.09 @ 6:30PM|#
You don't recognize a Pulp Fiction reference when you see
one? For shame.
Not all of us are Tarantino-fellaters. Besides, I was really wasted
when I watched it. Much like Miller's Crossing, which I
had to go back and re-watch sober.
ChrisO|4.13.09 @ 6:30PM|#
Not only that, we are actually, at this moment, fighting a
secret war with the Chinese over territory on the far side of the
moon.
There is no dark side of the moon. It's all dark.
BakedPenguin|4.13.09 @ 6:30PM|#
Oh wait... "enjoyed more..." Yeah, that reading comprehension class is really paying off for me.
|4.13.09 @ 6:30PM|#
The WoD is a great success. Gov gets to increase power, cities
get industrial prisons, authorities at all levels get away with all
sorts of bullshit in the name of the childrens.
It does seem there is a kernel of doubt in the minds of the mob,
but it will take much more time.
|4.13.09 @ 6:33PM|#
At least you took care of that albino assassin.
That bastard paid, all right.
Well, it didn't help that every time they gave me an injection, I
vomited violently for about ten minutes. Chunks of stomach lining
violently. Popped two staples violently. Wow, that sucked.
BakedPenguin|4.13.09 @ 6:58PM|#
aix42 - I don't doubt it will be a while. But I stand by what I said upthread. I really think the center of gravity is shifting. People are really starting to question it in a way that would have been unthinkable 20 years ago. I've talked to some retirees who were against the WoD, and that's an age group that I would have thought was monolithic in its support.
Cabeza De Vaca|4.13.09 @ 7:25PM|#
"The Ciappas helped pass Long Island's "Natalie's Law," which
requires officials to post on the web heroin related arrests by
location, frequency, and age of those arrested."
This is just going to tell people where they should go to buy
heroin.
jtuf|4.13.09 @ 7:58PM|#
A gallon of grain alcohol is also cheaper than a six pack of beer. Part of this results from the transportation cost savings when you concentrate the bioactive molecules. It's like frozen concentrated orange juice.
|4.13.09 @ 8:42PM|#
Jtuf:
Everclear + Grape Drank= the fastest, most clinical drunk you will
ever experience.
Uh, what were we talking about?
Oh yeah, space. Colonization is epically impractical at this point,
and it will be for as long as the way to get into orbit is based on
the same principle as a flamethrower.
|4.13.09 @ 8:46PM|#
So, who besides me voted in CNNs dumbass poll?
I tried, but the poll "results" show 0% across the board.
Not anymore.
No way 10%
Yes, all drugs 54%
Only marijuana 36%
This is not a scientific poll
Taktix®|4.13.09 @ 9:12PM|#
I like how every overdose story follows the same pattern:
1. Parents (irresponsibly?) didn't think it was a problem
2. He/She used to be such a good student
3. Started spending time alone (artist = drug addict)
4. He/She started fighting w/ parent (really abnormal for
teen!)
But whatever, cherry pick facts, you Drug Warriors, justice will
find it's way home soon...
MNG|4.13.09 @ 9:17PM|#
"Much like Miller's Crossing, which I had to go back and
re-watch sober."
Look into your heart, look into your heart!
BakedPenguin|4.13.09 @ 10:23PM|#
But whatever, cherry pick facts, you Drug Warriors, justice will find it's way home soon...
What's funny is that they use horror stories about drugs to try to
argue that drugs should continue to be illegal. Hey, assholes,
those horror stories occurred while drugs were
illegal. At the very worst, they would have gone down
exactly the same if drugs were legal. At best, things like
overdoses wouldn't happen because there would be quality controls
over drug production.
|4.14.09 @ 12:28AM|#
MNG you fucker, I had another line from that I was going to spin, but no, now it'd just be derivative. Damn you! Damn you to hell!
jtuf|4.14.09 @ 3:27AM|#
2. He/She used to be such a good student
I blame the drug dealer primarily. He should not have sold to
minors. I also think these incidences result from public schools
and child labor laws. The government mandates that kids separate
from parents for 30 hours each week and then everyone is shocked
when these inadequately suporvised kids end up in danger. Parent's
are the natural protectors and guides for children. They would do a
much better job keeping kids safe than teachers ever would.
|4.14.09 @ 10:38AM|#
Episiarch,
I'm with you--Tarantino is grossly overrated, though better than
Michael Bay.
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