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Michael C. Moynihan on the Glenn Beck Show
On Wednesday, March 18, 2009, Reason senior editor Michael C. Moynihan visited the Glenn Beck program on Fox News to discuss newspaper bailouts and the Fairness Doctrine.
|3.20.09 @ 6:30PM|#
Good show. I was reading the Letters to the Editor section of
that falling-in-revenue piece of crap of a paper, the San Francisco
Chronicle. Seems like the paper is going to increase its price, as
if the market demanded it more. Some letters were from people
saying that the increase in price would be "worth it" because the
paper was worth it...
Those guys sounded like the assholes that have "Buy Local" bumper
stickers in their Volvos (I live in the People's Democratic
Republic of Santa Cruz, CA.)
Will Nancy Pelosi obtain bailout money for her beloved brown nose
paper? Will that save that venerable paper, so that it can continue
supplying us with something to place on the floor of birdcages and
to toilet-train puppies?
|3.20.09 @ 6:33PM|#
You are giving Glen Beck legitimacy. The man is a moron, and possibly a dangerous one.
Angelo|3.20.09 @ 6:50PM|#
"You are giving Glen Beck legitimacy. The man is a moron, and
possibly a dangerous one."
No doubt. I get a heavy Jimmy Swaggart / Jim Baker vibe from this
guy every time I've seen him.
jtuf|3.20.09 @ 7:00PM|#
I recently subscribed to a printed newspaper, because it was in a niche market that caters to my viewpoint. Their website had gotten so overburdened, that buying the subscription was worth saving the download time. If a paper writes quality articles, I will buy it or download it regularly. If it just echos the popular opinion, I can get that for free on the NY Times website.
Kunal|3.20.09 @ 7:21PM|#
You are giving Glen Beck legitimacy. The man is a moron, and
possibly a dangerous one.
Word. That was altogether too chummy for my comfort. You may be
with him tactically on this one thing, but that's Glenn "prove to
me that you are not working with our enemies" Beck godsdammit!
Lefiti|3.20.09 @ 7:27PM|#
Jesus, Moynihan and Beck have an almost identical little sniggering laugh. Is that laugh taught in some sort of political fanatics' school?
lukas|3.20.09 @ 7:53PM|#
Jesus, Moynihan and Beck have an almost identical little sniggering laugh.
Jesus is part of the VRWC now?
jtuf|3.20.09 @ 7:55PM|#
I think Reason has a columnist who is a regular on Fox News's "Red Eye". Plenty of reason editors contribute to media outlets across the political spectrum. I've seen their articles in the Atlantic, LA Times, NY Times, and Boston Globe.
lukas|3.20.09 @ 8:08PM|#
Also, MCM, you look terrible in black. And WTF is up with that hair of yours?
Tim Cavanaugh|3.20.09 @ 8:21PM|#
I tremble for my nation when I reflect that Glenn Beck is leading the opposition. But the tent should always be big enough to include people who can get you TV time.
Mari Dupont|3.20.09 @ 9:20PM|#
Good move by Reason! Glenn Beck is a nutcase, but his ratings are doubling every week. I don't really understand his politics and I don't think he does either: one day he's a claiming to be conservative, the next day, a libertarian. Not that it really matters, as long as he doesn't have one of his trademark crying spells while you're trying to explain anti-trust policy, his show can be a great promotional tool.
|3.20.09 @ 9:32PM|#
But the tent should always be big enough to include people
who can get you TV time.
Tool comes to mind.
As in "Hooker With a Penis".
|3.20.09 @ 9:55PM|#
As I understand it, Beck had a nervous breakdown, but "got
better" when he began to believe in the power of magic
underwear.
This is essentially correct, no?
Great company you are keeping, MM!
Underzog|3.20.09 @ 10:07PM|#
A favorable mention of Michael Moyihan?
The Ernst Rhoem contributors to Hit & Run will have a
tizzy!
"There's no need to fear. Underzog is here!"
|3.20.09 @ 10:08PM|#
Fox News & libertarians still seems like an odd
combination.
To me, not as odd as that "liberaltarian"/libertarians for Obama
thing from last year. How's that working out, Dave Weigel?
I think that libertarians have more in common with conservatives
(limited government and free markets etc.) than with liberals
(drugs and abortion etc.) I figure that if conservatives are in
charge, at least people are more likely to have the money to buy
(even illegal) drugs and abortions. On the other hand, drugs and
abortions are small consolation if you're living in a
stagflationary, all-encompassing welfare megastate.
|3.20.09 @ 10:40PM|#
papayaSF,
Conservative just play lip service to free markets and limited
government. I find that VERY FEW of their actions actually promote
those things.
Tim Cavanaugh|3.20.09 @ 11:39PM|#
By the way, Beck's libertarian credentials are such that the
first time I ever heard of him was when he was denouncing a
pro-drug (IIRC) position that had been pointed out to him in some
magazine he'd never heard of before...called REASON.
I don't want to fall into the old
anybody-who-hasn't-read-my-work-obviously-knows-nothing trap, but
the brilliantly incisive and original Beck also worked the old
chestnut of doing arch emphases on the word reason, as in:
"The so-called REASON position is that we don't
need universal health care for cats. Doesn't sound very
REASONable to me!"
I don't know what show it was, but it couldn't have been more than
three or four years ago. He had a sidekick on the show who
eventually cut short his anti-REASON rant and told him he
should look at the magazine, which he might find himself agreeing
with.
So Glenn Beck is as retarded as Obama's bowling, but I'm with the
sidekick. If he wants to start glomming onto [T]reason magazine, he
should be encouraged to do so. God loves idiots; that's why he made
so many of them.
cuernimus|3.21.09 @ 12:09AM|#
Being conservative is to be steeped in the traditions of a
country, which for much of America's history would be comprised of
notions of small government and individual liberty. Today's
conservatives are largely of the neoconservative and social
conservative breed, which means libertarians will find no home in
their political movements. You can wail and gnash your teeth about
how better things were before the diaspora, but it's better to just
move on.
@Tim
Sounds like an interesting drinking game. Drink every time Glenn
Beck makes an ass of himself, whoever doesn't need to have their
stomach pumped before he has his first guest on wins.
|3.21.09 @ 4:45AM|#
Why in FUCK is Moynihan appearing on that guy's TV show?
When will my fellow libertarians be able distinguish between
assholes and, you know, everybody else.
|3.21.09 @ 8:43AM|#
Christ Almighty, but this is a bunch of narrow-minded,
intolerant prigs.
Reason has a message to get out. Beck gives them a forum to get
that message out. If Reason people only appeared on shows with pure
quill libertarian hosts that were broadcast on 100% libertarian
networks, guess how much broadcast time they would get?
I suppose this crowd is probably pissed that Reason mails its
magazine through the US Mail, where it is touched by the hands of
actual US government employees.
MNG|3.21.09 @ 9:34AM|#
"That was altogether too chummy for my comfort."
You don't read much Moynihan, do you? Moynihan and Beck try for the
same audience dude.
And yes, down with the Fairness Doctrine, newspaper bailouts, and
other things not likely to happen between now and 2050...Why not
Mass Gun Confiscation and Forced Abortions Paid for With Taxes on
Working People.
MNG|3.21.09 @ 9:36AM|#
It's nice to see RC Dean defending tolerance.
Of course its tolerance of someone he surely likes and agrees with
ideologically, but nonetheless at least he's using the word, which
is often, though admittedly not always, a first step to
understanding what said word means.
SpongePaul|3.21.09 @ 10:04AM|#
hands of actual US government employees
The post office is NOT a goverment entitiy. It is a private
monopoly. One thing most people don't get. My Uncle has been
working for the Post office for 20 years. It is Independent of the
Goverment. has its own budget. and answers to itself. Thier
employees are corparate employees with a union. They pay into
social security etc etc.
MNG|3.21.09 @ 10:13AM|#
Nooge
I had such hopes for you. For a while there, you were able to
compose multiple sentence posts, even reaching to the point of a
paragraph now and then. But now it seems you just had hit your
Flowers for Algernon apex...
MNG|3.21.09 @ 10:15AM|#
Spongepaul
It's also explicitly allowed for in the U.S. Constitution, Art I,
Sec 8.
|3.21.09 @ 12:22PM|#
They pay into social security
Everybody pays into that scam. Military, police ect.
The US Mail is a little more than a government enforced monopoly.
They have their own rules. You can't carry concealed into a post
office, there are other stupid rules too, but that one springs to
mind.
|3.21.09 @ 12:36PM|#
Coarsetad: It's better than nothing. Politics in a democracy
involves compromise. No libertarian is going to be elected
president anytime soon, so we have to take what we can get.
Regarding newspaper bailouts, I will put in a good word for Pelosi
(first time ever), because (AFAIK) she hasn't talked about bailing
out newspapers with cash. She talked about removing some anti-trust
rules to make it easier for them to operate, which should sound
fine to folks around here.
Of course, she loses some credit for being in favor of that sort of
economic regulation at every other opportunity....
|3.21.09 @ 12:44PM|#
Proof: It IS possible to kiss ass through a split screen.
That was embarrassing. But good job MM, no doubt you've secured
invitations for guest appearances in the future.
@|3.21.09 @ 1:41PM|#
Glenn Beck is in the lead opposition to the Socialist programs
of BO and his minions.
It's a great, informative show.
rob levine|3.21.09 @ 3:41PM|#
Even if you agree with Beck on this one issue, you have to be nuts to go on his show. With every episode Beck seems more extreme, if that's even possible. He's turned into some kind of paranoid freak.
Barack Obama|3.21.09 @ 4:09PM|#
Why not Mass Gun Confiscation and Forced Abortions Paid for
With Taxes on Working People.
Yes We Can!
Odd|3.21.09 @ 4:14PM|#
She talked about removing some anti-trust rules to make it
easier for them to operate, which should sound fine to folks around
here.
Where did you get the idea libertarians are pro-monopoly?
Especially pro-media-monopoloy?
And yes, down with the Fairness Doctrine, newspaper bailouts,
and other things not likely to happen between now and
2050...
Right, moron, it's not like top Dems support the idea.
"Do you personally support revival of the 'Fairness Doctrine?'"
I asked. "Yes," speaker Pelosi replied, without
hesitation.
|3.21.09 @ 4:55PM|#
The thing is the media outlets that make up the propaganda arm
of the Republican party have been moaning about a lack of fairness
on the airwaves for a long time. So they admit a need for balance,
they're just whining about the possibility that they won't have a
monopoly over talk radio.
The right relies on one thing to spread its message: demagoguery.
And Beck is just one the latest and looniest iterations.
If any of you thinks Obama or the Dems as a whole wants to squander
political capital on the FD, well you watch Beck too much.
jester|3.22.09 @ 2:12AM|#
Did you catch it Moynihan? Your name was put up as
'Moyniham'.
Does that mean you're a ham, hamming it up every chance you
get?
As for Beck, he makes an easy target for people like Jon Stewart to
successfully mock. And the good things that Beck defends go along
mocked with him. If a spineless moronic dick like Stewart can make
fun of someone then he must be the nadir of respectability.
jester|3.22.09 @ 3:59AM|#
If there were fairness, libertarians would have a voice on radio
and not get lumped with shitheads like Glenn Beck or (your
contrarily/our similarly) whomever is your favourite Euro-style
socialist.
Visiting this site, you should uderstand that. The old
'Liberals-and-Conservatives-aren't-represented-equally is an unfair
sideshow, and you know it.
jester|3.22.09 @ 4:05AM|#
And the left also relies on one thing to spread its message:
demagoguery.
It's an amazing concept for the small-minded like you, Tony.
Did I accidently split an infinitive? Did I commit some other
grammatical error that rendered my comment unreadable to you?
|3.22.09 @ 9:30AM|#
"You are giving Glen Beck legitimacy. The man is a moron, and
possibly a dangerous one."
Most morons aren't rich or have high rated shows on TV. In fact,
most are like you and me, comment board posters. I'd trade my
genius for rich moroness anyday.
Kerry Howley|3.22.09 @ 12:26PM|#
Beck's former encounter with "Reason" Magazine here: http://www.reason.com/blog/show/115713.html
|3.22.09 @ 3:13PM|#
What bothers me about this is that I can imagine both of these guys supporting the relaxing of laws against media consolidation if they weren't proposed by Nancy Pelosi, but here they reduce them to condescension and sniggering. One of my favorite things about Reason generally is that they don't base opposition to or support for policies on which team those policies come from, but Moynihan seems intent on getting himself in with team Red enough that he can share their power and influence.
MNG|3.22.09 @ 4:31PM|#
"Most morons aren't rich or have high rated shows on TV."
I love this kind of argument, because it means Britney Spears is
obviously NOT a moron!
JohnD|3.23.09 @ 7:19AM|#
Beck is over the top sometimes, but on the whole he makes more sense that many of the moronic assholes (like Tony, Henry, Larry, etc.) on this site.
Gilbert Martin|3.23.09 @ 8:26AM|#
"Most morons aren't rich or have high rated shows on TV."
"I love this kind of argument, because it means Britney Spears is
obviously NOT a moron!"
Spears has a highly rated TV show?
What network is it on?
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