Michael C. Moynihan | March 3, 2009
I've written a fair amount on the tribulations of Dutch MP and virulent critic of Islam Geert Wilders, more than once warning that prosecuting him for "hate crimes" or preventing his entry into the United Kingdom only serves to boost his political capital at home. Yes, it was a rather obvious point—but who would have guessed, when Fitna first entered the news cycle in early 2008, that this would happen. From The Telegraph:
New opinion polling now puts Mr Wilders ahead of the Christian Democrats, who lead a coalition government.
"How happy I am about this. These are of course just polls, but it is an enormous sign of confidence from the Dutch voter," said Mr Wilders.
"As far as I am concerned, elections can be held tomorrow, then I will be the next premier".
Polling by Maurice de Hond has predicted that the Freedom Party or PVV would take 18 per cent of the vote to win 27 seats in the 150-seat Dutch parliament.
In another Islam-and-free-speech story, Christopher Hitchens picks up on an alarming demand before the United Nations (nonbinding resolution 62/154) aimed at "combating defamation of religions." It has been largely overlooked by traditional media outlets, with the notable exception of this column from the Washington Times by Cato Institute senior fellow Nat Hentoff. Hitchens points to a passage in the resolution expressing "deep concern" that "Islam is frequently and wrongly associated with human rights violations and terrorism." How could such opinions ever have come to pass?
You see how the trick is pulled? In the same weeks that this resolution comes up for its annual renewal at the United Nations, its chief sponsor-government (Pakistan) makes an agreement with the local Taliban to close girls' schools in the Swat Valley region (a mere 100 miles or so from the capital in Islamabad) and subject the inhabitants to Sharia law. This capitulation comes in direct response to a campaign of horrific violence and intimidation, including public beheadings. Yet the religion of those who carry out this campaign is not to be mentioned, lest it "associate" the faith with human rights violations or terrorism. In Paragraph 6, an obvious attempt is being made to confuse ethnicity with confessional allegiance. Indeed this insinuation (incidentally dismissing the faith-based criminality of 9/11 as merely "tragic") is in fact essential to the entire scheme. If religion and race can be run together, then the condemnations that racism axiomatically attracts can be surreptitiously extended to religion, too. This is clumsy, but it works: The useless and meaningless term Islamophobia, now widely used as a bludgeon of moral blackmail, is testimony to its success.
The authors of this assault on secularism do, of course, call for legal prescriptions that would protect the hypersensitive practitioners of Islam. After the requisite (and predictably unconvincing) nod to upholding free speech rights, the resolution argues that "the exercise of these rights carries with it special duties and responsibilities and may therefore be subject to limitations as are provided for by law and are necessary for respect of the rights or reputations of others, protection of national security or of public order, public health or morals and respect for religions and beliefs."
Yesterday, I discussed the situation in Venezuela, Cuba, and the case of Wilders with Real Clear World blogger Fausta Wertz on her BlogTalkRadio show, which you can listen to here.
Update: Ron Bailey blogged the UN resolution in December when it was first introduced. Underreported story, yes, but Bailey beat Hitchens and Hentoff by three months.
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I hope Wilders wins the election just to shake up the statists around the world.
Wilders is a statist, and no friend of free speech, himself. He thinks the Koran should be banned in the Netherlands.
He thinks the Koran should be banned in the
Netherlands.
No. He thinks the Koran violates existing hate-speech bans in the
Netherlands, because it does. He doesn't favor the bans.
hypersensitive practitioners of Islam.
Which by my estimation would be most of them.
*ducks*
"Wilders is a statist, and no friend of free speech, himself. He
thinks the Koran should be banned in the Netherlands."
No, he stated that if Mein Kampf is banned based on hate speech the
same can be said of the Koran. It's not a ban, but an observation
of the absurdities of those laws.
He could defeat the Christian Democrats and piss off Muslims all at the same time? Was there a drawing? I feel like I've won something intangible.
"the exercise of these rights carries with it special duties and responsibilities and may therefore be subject to limitations as are provided for by law and are necessary for respect of the rights or reputations of others, protection of national security or of public order, public health or morals and respect for religions and beliefs."
Ah, the Meese commission is alive and well among the progressives,
I see.
If free speech means anything, it means the right to say anything you want to about other people's beliefs. I am always astonished by the number of people you encounter who do not get this. Free speech may (or may not) come with a moral responsibility, but if it has legal consequences then free it is not.
The U.N. is focusing on the wrong things.
The fact that girls' schools are being outlawed; that is the real
tragedy, although I agree that hate speech laws stink.
If you insist that there's no difference between your religion and your government, fine, but that means criticism of one is criticism of both. It's built into the notion of theocracy that you can take a swipe at the religion based on the actions of the government. If you don't like it, maybe you should split those concepts up a bit more.
Normally I'd post some rant about intolerant theist afraid of
criticism here. I'll save you that and just leave an
observation.
These UN dumbasses* just don't see the logical disconnect between
supporting both freedom of expression and freedom from being
insulted.
* I know it's redundant.
"Hitchens points to a passage in the resolution expressing "deep
concern" that "Islam is frequently and wrongly associated with
human rights violations and terrorism." How could such opinions
ever have come to pass?"
This reminds of the story about that Muslim guy who had started a
TV in upstate New York dedicated to dispelling the negative
stereotypes about Muslims. He was recently arrested for chopping
his wife's head off.
"These UN dumbasses* just don't see the logical disconnect
between supporting both freedom of expression and freedom from
being insulted."
They understand that disconnect perfectly. It is just that they
don't want free expression. They have to give a nod to it, but they
certainly don't support it. The people in the UN and the EU and
many people in the US for that matter, don't want you to be able to
say anything that is not approved, period.
Do girls in Islamic girls schools wear plaid
burkhas?
Yes.
The
papists win the fashion show.
I've just thought of another angle on this.
If they're going to make it illegal to "defame" religions, doesn't
this effectively make atheism publicly proscribed?
There are plenty of atheists out there whose arguments could be
construed to defame ALL religions. Especially those who argue that
religion itself is pernicious (Dawkins and Hitchens are among
them). Or that all the major religions espouse violence.
Heck, even claiming that belief in a God is irrational could be
construed as "defamation".
I'm anxious to see if any atheists get charged with defaming Islam
in the course of arguing for atheism.
"The papists win the fashion show."
Bismalla! That is one cute and entirely legal papist! But The
Google does not have listings for Plaid Burkhas, pbuh.
Do girls in Islamic girls schools wear plaid
burkhas?
Mrowwr!
After the requisite (and predictably unconvincing) nod to
upholding free speech rights, the resolution argues that "the
exercise of these rights carries with it special duties and
responsibilities and may therefore be subject to limitations as are
provided for by law and are necessary for respect of the rights or
reputations of others, protection of national security or of public
order, public health or morals and respect for religions and
beliefs."
All your rights are belong to us!
Seriously, though, is that formulation any different from what
SCOTUS said in Heller?
The real fun begins when some tool tries to enforce the law against
defamation of religions, and the defendant puts forth the
traditional defense that the truth is never defamatory.
One who exclusively, principally or even substantially, identifies oneself by his inclusion in, or association with, one's inherited race, ethnicity, religion or national origin, has no right to complain about harsh words regarding one's race, ethnicity, religion or national origin uttered by others.
Fuck the Religion of Piss. Fuck Pakistan. Fuck Chavez. Fuck
Venezuela. Fuck the UN.
Yeah, freedom of speech!
Muslim guy who had started a TV in upstate New York
dedicated to dispelling the negative stereotypes about Muslims. He
was recently arrested for chopping his wife's head off.
Ours is not to judge. These are merely cultural differences.
'The fact that girls' schools are being outlawed; that is the
real tragedy, although I agree that hate speech laws stink.'
The National Organization for Women, in its
policy recommendations for the Obama administration, has the
following proposed policy concerning single-sex schools:
'Rescind the 2006 Department of Education regulations allowing
schools to establish single-sex schools and classes which have few
protections against sex discrimination and sex stereotyping and
which are in violation of the spirit and intent of Title IX.'
'Rescind the 2006 Department of Education regulations
allowing schools to establish single-sex schools and classes which
have few protections against sex discrimination and sex
stereotyping and which are in violation of the spirit and intent of
Title IX.'
So Wellesley College goes gently into that good night?
Here are
the 2006 administrative regulations we've been discussion. The
operative part is down near the bottom, under the heading "PART
106--NONDISCRIMINATION ON THE BASIS OF SEX IN EDUCATION
PROGRAMS OR ACTIVITIES RECEIVING FEDERAL FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE." The
part about separate schools reads as follows:
Sec. 106.34 Access to classes and schools.
. . . (c) Schools. (1) General Standard. Except as provided in
paragraph
(c)(2) of this section, a recipient that operates a public
nonvocational elementary or secondary school that excludes
from
admission any students, on the basis of sex, must provide students
of
the excluded sex a substantially equal single-sex school or
coeducational school.
(2) Exception. A nonvocational public charter school that is
a
single-school local educational agency under State law may be
operated
as a single-sex charter school without regard to the requirements
in
paragraph (c)(1) of this section.
(3) Substantially equal factors. Factors the Department will
consider, either individually or in the aggregate as appropriate,
in
determining whether schools are substantially equal include, but
are
not limited to, the following: The policies and criteria of
admission,
the educational benefits provided, including the quality, range,
and
content of curriculum and other services and the quality and
availability of books, instructional materials, and technology,
the
quality and range of extracurricular offerings, the qualifications
of
faculty and staff, geographic accessibility, the quality,
accessibility, and availability of facilities and resources,
and
intangible features, such as reputation of faculty.
Our founding parents staked their lives, fortunes and honors to gain freedom. This generation is willing to hand it back just to avoid uncomfortable conversations.
"So Wellesley College goes gently into that good night?"
One can dream, yes?
"Our founding parents staked their lives, fortunes and honors to
gain freedom. This generation is willing to hand it back just to
avoid uncomfortable conversations."
I nominate jtuf for H&R unified thread winner.
... Bailey beat Hitchens and Hentoff by three months.
So did this
Australian dude. Ya hafta scroll down a bit to find it.
R C Dean | March 3, 2009, 5:51pm | #
The real fun begins when some tool tries to enforce the law against defamation of religions, and the defendant puts forth the traditional defense that the truth is never defamatory.
Only if truth is even allowed as a defense. Poster boy for this:
Mark Steyn vs the Canadian Human Rights Industry
.. er government teat ..er.. Commissions.
Your truth is no defense against my offense. If you speak the truth
and I am offended by it, the Human Rights Industry says: "Tough
shit ya racist, sexist, non-inclusive pig-dog! You lose!" Offense
trumps everything. Being offended is the wild-card in the game of
inclusive social relations.
Enough about Palin: "I nominate jtuf for H&R unified thread
winner."
It sounds good. I'll second the nomination!
may therefore be subject to limitations as are provided for
by law and are necessary for respect of the rights or reputations
of others, protection of national security or of public order,
public health or morals and respect for religions and
beliefs
This is an obvious Trojan horse for Sharia law, since under Sharia
law criticizing Islam, publicly advocating for a religion other
than Islam, or publicly advocating for atheism, all come under the
"protection of public morals" rubric. That is, if you are lucky
enough to get to a trial, since it is also the case under Sharia
law that a Muslim killing a non-Muslim is "not subject to
retaliation", and Muslims are notorious proponents of the self-help
theory of law.
"If they're going to make it illegal to "defame" religions,
doesn't this effectively make atheism publicly proscribed?"
No, because selective application is always allowed. See non-whites
cannot be racist and women cannot be sexist. This would be a tool
for the oligarch's to bludgeon certain cultures into
submission.
look at section 319 of the criminal code and Section 13 of the
canadian civil rights act.
if our next door neighbor can severely limit free speech w/o any of
our liberal "canada is so much better than us, they have universal
health care" canada pimpers make a peep, why would they care about
europe?
Poster boy for this: Mark Steyn vs the Canadian Human Rights
Industry .. er government teat ..er.. Commissions.
Thank you for reminding me why, even with Il Duce in charge, and
the banking sector officially a tool for political patronage, the
US is still a more free country than Canada.
Which reminds me .... if I still lived in Canada, there's a
non-zero chance I would have been prosecuted for hate speech by
now, for the same reasons as Mark Steyn.
That kinda sends chills down my back.
Heroes of free speech and/or loathsome bigots ejected for
offending local community with incendiary views?
Wilders --
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/4603165/Dutch-MP-Geert-Wilders-deported-after-flying-to-Britain-to-show-anti-Islamic-film.html
But will there be a Moynihan column celebrating this other schmuck
for identical set of facts:
http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1881346,00.html
I had a friend tell me a few years ago, in all seriousness, that
his younger sister was down on Arrowsmith because their videos
"sexualized
Catholic school-girl uniforms." I was laughing too hard to explain
why that observation was funny.
(Unfortunately, my wife never wears her plaid skirt anymore.)
Hubba hubba!
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