Nick Gillespie | August 28, 2008
Barack Obama, employing a version of the George Costanza classic, "It's not you, it's me," telling the American people that really, it's about them, not him.
Barack Obama, liberal standard-bearer, declaring that government can't solve all your problems. And reaching back into his inner-SDS hippie, talking up nuclear energy (as did the Port Huron Statement).
MSNBC's Keith Olbermann musing (as only he can do) that he couldn't find anything to criticize in the speech. And noting that Obama made at least 29 specific policy proposals in the plan (most of which are predicated on the idea that government can indeed solve all your problems, with the possible exception of the ones it causes).
NPR's/Fox News' Juan Williams saying that he thought that Obama "hadn't closed the sale." And The Weekly Standard's Bill Kristol saying that Obama faced super-high expectations and that the candidate had not only met them, but "exceeded them."
Next week's GOP convention, where according to early rumors, the Party of Lincoln will unveil a party platform that attacks immigration and gay marriage.
Which suggests all is still right with the world, and oh-so-damn wrong.
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So, in just a couple of days, the events of this evening will be followed by a collection of speeches from people like Joe Lieberman and John McCain.
"Bill Kristol saying that Obama faced super-high expectations
and that the candidate had not only met them, but "exceeded
them."
Really? I was beginning to think Kristol was channeling Ann
Coulter. Haven't heard him say a good thing all week (not that I
listen that much to BK).
joe,
The Republicans might take the week off. There's levees need
'splodin down in N'Awlins.
I heard that, SIV. I can't believe it.
There's an Army Corps engineer who's saying the pumps won't work.
An outside auditor said the DoD tried to squash her report.
Cross your fingers.
If anything, this speech made me even less likely to want to
vote for Obama. The crux of his policies is that individuals can't
stand up for themselves in the economy, and that the government is
the only hope working Americans have. Then again, McCain's not any
better, believing in the same myth of good government (as opposed
to the traditional mistrust of government conservatives hold) while
calling for even more foreign military expansionism. I don't think
he can meaningfully attack Obama's view of government because they
share it. I'm really frightened.
Then he laid out a huge laundry list equivalent to every
socialist's dream ($150 billion dollars here, $80 billion dollars
there), claimed he can still cut taxes for 95% of working families
and then pointed out the problem of our huge deficit. It's a
brilliant political maneuver - tax cuts are popular and government
handouts are popular, so why not promise both and try to distract
from the fact that any economist or even anyone with a rudimentary
grasp of logic will be able to recognize that you can't have both.
I'd like to believe that he'll focus on the tax cuts and the
programs will fail because of Republican obstructionism, but
somehow I don't think the Republicans will be very powerful if they
can't eke out a presidential win.
I never thought I'd say this, but I'm going to really miss these
last few lame duck years of Bush come January. I think he has
improved, with better foreign policy realism compared to his first
term and a good immigration policy (Bush was for once showing that
he's not always a puppet of his base), although he has utterly
failed at his economic agenda. I'm worried we're either going to
elect either a Teddy Roosevelt or a Franklin Roosevelt.
Libertarians should be shaking in fear.
"As President, I will tap our natural gas reserves, invest in
clean coal technology, and find ways to safely harness nuclear
power."
This isn't talking up nuclear power, this is a back door to do
nothing with nuclear power. "Safely harness". Who knew that we
hadn't been "safely harnessing" nuclear power for decades?
Who knew that we hadn't been "safely harnessing" nuclear
power for decades?
Anyone who's read enough to know that we haven't built a nuclear
plant since the early 80s?
Who knew that we hadn't been "safely harnessing" nuclear power
for decades?
"Anyone who's read enough to know that we haven't built a nuclear
plant since the early 80s?"
So we haven't built one cause the operational ones are all unsafe,
yet nothing in the speech suggests the closing all operating
nuclear power plants. Weird. Maybe one who's read enough can
explain the lack of urgency.
Anyone who's read enough to know that we haven't built a
nuclear plant since the early 80s
Joe, really? We haven't built one for almost thirty years because
they're inherently unsafe? Apparently the French didn't get the
memo. Or is it because it is economically unfeasible to spend
hundreds of $M on R&D, planning, etc. and then fight the
*watermelons* in court for the next two decades, only to tire of
the shit and file 13 the whole thing?
*C'mon, you know. Watermelons, green on the outside....
I know, let's pretend that Obama wasn't talking about building
new plants, but was commenting on making existing plants
safer.
Joe, really? We haven't built one for almost thirty years
because they're inherently unsafe? No. Nor did I claim as
such.
I don't actually have to walk you two through this, right? You
understand the point, and are just playing dumb for political
purposes, right?
Joe,
"Who knew that we hadn't been "safely harnessing" nuclear power for
decades?"
"Anyone who's read enough to know that we haven't built a nuclear
plant since the early 80s?"
I didn't pretend anything, my point was we have been safely
harnessing power from nuclear power plants for decades, hence we
already know how to safely harness power from nuclear power plants.
Simple enough. You come back with a comment from which I take to
mean:
- Those who have read and learned that we hadn't been building
nuclear power plants since the early 80's know that we hadn't been
safely harnessing power from nuclear power plants for decades.
-
How is this not claiming the current operating nuclear power plants
are unsafe? Maybe you do have to walk me through this. Obama
said
"As President, I will tap our natural gas reserves, invest in clean
coal technology, and find ways to safely harness nuclear
power."
Forgive me for not assuming such an intelligent speaker reading a
speech that had to have been proofread 50 times that he was
actually talking about finding ways "to make plants safer" vs "find
ways to safely harness nuclear power".
correction at the end:
Forgive me for not assuming such an intelligent speaker reading a
speech that had to have been proofread 50 times that he was
actually talking about finding ways "to build new plants safely" vs
"find ways to safely harness nuclear power".
If he's talking about building new plants, then his comment is that
we don't yet know how to make them safe, no? And until we do, no
new plants.
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