Jesse Walker | March 19, 2008
The novelist Arthur C. Clarke has died at age 90. It's been a couple decades since I last read any of his books, but I enjoyed several of them in my teens, especially 2001 and the wonderfully ambiguous Childhood's End.
And then there was his larger cultural influence, which stretched all the way from here...
...to here:
Rest in peace.
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Thank you Reason for proving me wrong. I told a couple of people yesterday that the media would only mention 2001 and possibly the Rama series, and won't be arsed with my favorite Clarke book, Childhood's End. I'm glad someone did remember...
Childhood's End is my favorite, too.
RIP. If there's an afterlife, he's currently mocking Asimov.
I enjoyed all of Mr. Clark's fiction. Read every novel and short
story he had written up to 1978. Oops, I did com back later and
read the rest of the Space Oddessy series.
He was my favorite science fiction writer. When it came to
easy-to-read science, Azimov was my guy with second place going to
Clarke.
"Larger cultural influence" including making Richard Strauss into a hit composer, as demonstrated in your YouTube clip (and lots of other places).
My two favorites are (1) The City and the Stars (possibly my favorite sci-fi book ever) and (2) Imperial Earth. Somehow I never got around to reading Rendezvous with Rama or Childhood's End.
I think these cultural influences show more influence from
Kubrick than from Clarke.
Clarke's proposal for geosynchronous satellites is his true great
cultural influence: laughed at when he first advanced it but now an
essential part of modern life. Such satellites are now said to be
in "Clarke orbit".
Everthing I've ever read by Clarke has been worth reading, with
Childhood's End at the summit. His recent collaborations with
Stephen Baxter were fascinating.
Having said that, I know I won't miss him as much as I still miss
Isaac Asimov.
When it came to easy-to-read science, Azimov was my
guy
Agreed - I read soooo many of those books when I was a kid. I don't
recall Clark doing popular science books, though.
I devoured every Asimov and Clarke book I could get my hands on
from junior high through high school. Throw in Heinlein, and you
had the short list of the best science fiction writers working
through my formative years.
I read Childhood's End about 5 times from age 11 through 25. It
still haunts me 25 years later.
There seems to be a lot of love for Childhood's End actually. I loved almost everything I read that he wrote. I've reread 2010 most, but I'll also mention Songs of Distant Earth.
The Clarke-Asimov Treaty-sometimes called the Asimov-Clarke Treaty or the Asimov-Clarke Treaty of Park Avenue-stated that each author would refer to the other as the world's greatest writer in his specialty-and refer to himself as merely second-best. Under these terms, Asimov would crown Clarke as the best science-fiction scribe ever, while Clarke would anoint Asimov as the greatest science writer. Of course, both could publicly crown himself a close second to the other.
So what was the story with the NAMBLA accusations? Any truth to the rumors of why he moved to India?
Loved Asimov as a kid, still do. I remember reading about the Asimov-Clarke Treaty :)
I'm on-again/off-again with science fiction, but I must have read Childhood's End half a dozen times when I was in junior high/high school. Ditto for Rendezvous with Rama. Formative years indeed.
I'm on-again/off-again with science fiction, . .
.
It's become nearly impossible to find a true science fiction novel
these days. They're all serials involving swords and dragons and
other fantasy bullshit (not that there's anything wrong with
that).
The whole Rama series is very good. My science fiction reading is woefully lacking. But I have read very few more entertaining books than the Rama series.
Rita, there's no evidence Clarke was a pederast. He was quoted by Locus (www.locusmag.com) at the time of the accusations that he hadn't had sex with anyone for several decades. (Separately, when asked if he was gay, his reply was "No, merely happy"). I suspect he was one of those closeted, highly functional gays of early 20th century Britain.
I can't remember the last time I read any Clarke, but I have
good memories of reading his work. I'll probably re-read Rama one
of these days, but most of my books are in boxes, not having any
bookshelves (or wall space for that matter) in which to house
them.
Another vote for Childhood's End.
It's become nearly impossible to find a true science fiction
novel these days. They're all serials involving swords and dragons
and other fantasy bullshit (not that there's anything wrong with
that).
Stephen Baxter is good, if baffling at times. I love everything by
Robert Sawyer, even if he is a damn libural Canadian. Sawyer also
runs a huge sci-fi website with lots of info on various writers
(not just himself). Pick anything off the recent Hugo or Nebula
lists; it's bound to be good.
But yeah, the Sci-Fi/Fantasy shelves do seem to be overwhelmed with
fantasy lately.
I think I still have my original paperback copy of Childhood's
End, purchased during elementary school via the Scholastic Book
Club. It still ranks as one of the best Science Fiction novels I
have ever read.
Was the "amor" clip from Plaza Sesamo? I recall that Sesame Street
and its global franchise shows made more than a few references to
the 2001 monolith and used Strauss or Strauss-like fanfares for
that awe-inspiring effect.
My one tenuous brush with literary greatness was occasionally
walking past his house in Colombo on my way somewhere else...
I always loved his short stories the best; Superiority and
The Star are tops on my personal list.
I like a lot of Robert Charles Wilson's work.
I think Clarke's at his best when he's a little mystical, like in
"Childhood's End" and the first part of "The Fountains of
Paradise." If I remember, "The City and the Stars" fits in there as
well.
I always loved his short stories the best; Superiority and
The Star
Two things that profoundly affected me as a youth were
Childhood's End and The Star.
Childhood's End provided my yearbook quote (NERRRRD!). A thoughtful man who created beautiful art. RIP
From the introduction to the novel version of
2001:
"Remember, this is only a work of fiction. The truth, as always,
will be far stranger."
R.I.P. Sir Arthur...
All comfort to his family and friends.
I dug his non-fiction too. His prolificacy made him a
gazillionaire. He lived on an Island that he owned.
I read most of Childhood's End non-stop while I was tripping on
acid. (This was like 30 years ago)
I like the Hyperion series.
Me too. Now, I didn't understand what the hell was going on half
the time...
It's become nearly impossible to find a true science fiction
novel these days. They're all serials involving swords and dragons
and other fantasy bullshit (not that there's anything wrong with
that).
Jack McDevitt has written some pretty good stuff, and it reminded
me of Clarke when I read it. Joe Haldeman is good too.
It's become nearly impossible to find a true science fiction
novel these days. They're all serials involving swords and dragons
and other fantasy bullshit (not that there's anything wrong with
that).
Vernon Vinge is good hard sci fi, and Brin's Kiln People
is a biotech version of Snowcrash
It's become nearly impossible to find a true science fiction
novel these days. They're all serials involving swords and dragons
and other fantasy bullshit (not that there's anything wrong with
that).
John Scalzi has a few books out of the Ghost Brigades
series that are very good and fast reads. Peter Hamilton's
2-parter, Pandora's Star and Judas Unchained were
very entertaining (and loooong).
Are all of you so frightened of the real world, that you'd
follow the devil to another?
This place looks like a successful experiment in
mind-control!
Look, the man lived 90 freakin' years, ok?
Yes, he was very intelligent, and a good fiction writer.
But, when you can so softly dismiss Rita's pertinent question about
the man's personal life, and true character -- you're all better
fantasy writers than Clarke ever was!
I don't mourn the man's death. I mourn the lives he's ruined.
And, all of the great writings throughout history...can never
excuse the theft of even one child's innocence.
You praise a man you did not really know,
then, call it "reason."
And, you think that Clarke was lame?
To Rita -- continue to seek truth.
Just know you'll likely never find it here, among the wee
people.
In fact, unless the present powers-that-be decide to venture out
from beneath their toadstools, and into the sunlight -- I doubt
they'll even print this.
Flannelbird, you, sirrah, are being a total dipsh*t.
Anyone who followed the story at the time discovered that the
pederasty accusation was made up by a barking clown of a reporter
who wanted to create a story for the local scandal sheet. Who later
on apologized, was fired, and had to pay a certain amount in
damages.
Don't be so quick to jump to believe stuff you hear on the
internet. Or do you believe that the Moon landings were faked,
too?
Grumpy -- who, btw, was that clown reporter?
Did you happen to catch his name?
As for the moon landings...I'm a rather trusting individual.
An honest man once told me that he went. And, that's good enough
for me.
Now...who was that reporter, again?
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