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Hippie Can't Speak French, Abandons Quest for Moneyless Society
Freeloading hippie Mark Boyles, 28, decided to demonstrate his contempt for the modern world, materialism, and a bunch of other really terrific things by walking to Gandhi's birthplace in Porbander, India. Boyles is an acolyte of the "Freeconomy" movement, a method of living that, according to the group, "allows people to make the transition from a money based communityless (sic) society to more of a community based moneyless society." In other words, he's a middle class beggar. On the first day of his trip, according to this BBC report, he scored two free meals in the English town of Glastonbury. Hardly surprising; the town is, after all, listed as one of England's "hippie havens."
Boyles and two friends then managed, in a grubby version of Operation Overlord, to land in Pas-de-Calais, France, where the mission encountered into its first snag. According to the BBC, the wandering Freeconomist was quickly mistaken for an indigent "because he could not speak French [and] people thought he was free-loading or an asylum seeker." On his blog Boyles complained that "not only did no one not (sic) speak the language, [the French] had also seen us as just a bunch of freeloading backpackers, which is the complete opposite of what the pilgrimage is really about."
The group was now "out of food, hadn't slept in days and were really cold," and decided, in a grubby version of Dunkirk, to abandon the mission and head back to England. Boyles is disappointed-but not deterred. He is, the BBC reports, planning "to walk around the coast of Britain instead, learning French as he goes, so he can try again next year." At which point the cycle begins anew, when, upon reaching Baden-Baden, the poor lad will realize that he should have also studied German.
Taktix®|2.29.08 @ 4:31PM|#
I thought the British were supposed to be eloquent
speakers.
I'm going to have to look into this whole "stereotype" thing.
|2.29.08 @ 4:32PM|#
reiterating what mediageek said with a couple of extra "ha"s thrown in for emphasis.
Episiarch|2.29.08 @ 4:32PM|#
I would love to hang with this guy. He would be more entertaining than Milton Berle and Penn & Teller put together.
|2.29.08 @ 4:50PM|#
What was Operation Overland? The link goes to Operation
Overlord, so I'm guessing it's just a typo, although I do like to
imagine some whacked out Allied planner proposing that
Anglo-American forces go over the frozen Bering Strait and through
the USSR to attack Germany.
Germany is not France-most Germans speak at least some English, and
usually they speak it pretty well (A lot of the French speak
English, too, but refuse to admit it.)
Does this entry herald a change in Reason's stance on
immigration? Or is the fact that he didn't go to work in unskilled
labor the reason for the sneers?
Obtuse Angle|2.29.08 @ 4:53PM|#
planning "to walk around the coast of Britain instead, learning French as he goes, so he can try again next year."
Incontinent, Channel-surfing coaster. Sure sounds like a
"freeloading backpacker," Margaret.
Another Phil|2.29.08 @ 4:55PM|#
I know hippies make an easy target, but isn't it easier to ignore them?
Suetonius|2.29.08 @ 4:56PM|#
J:"Like Kane in Kung Fu"
V: "They have a word for that Jules, it's called a bum. You'd be a
fucking bum."
|2.29.08 @ 5:08PM|#
had also seen us as just a bunch of freeloading backpackers,
which is the complete opposite of what the pilgrimage is really
about.
I'm genuinely confused. i thought that was his point, to convince
society that we should all be freeloading backpackers living off of
each other's kindness or something.
i never understood hippies, it's almost like they think being poor
and dirty is "cool" or something as long as you are high and filled
with love.
|2.29.08 @ 5:10PM|#
Take note, i've been poor, dirty, high and filled with love all at the same time. it wasn't cool.
John Cosmotarian jackson|2.29.08 @ 5:13PM|#
"[the French] had also seen us as just a bunch of freeloading
backpackers"
They are who we thought they were.
Episiarch|2.29.08 @ 5:15PM|#
Somebody filled you with their love while you were high, poor,
and dirty, Shane?
I guess when you're poor, you have to do certain things for
money.
|2.29.08 @ 5:23PM|#
I'd rather have money and pretend I didn't than not have money and just not have money.
|2.29.08 @ 5:42PM|#
planning "to walk around the coast of Britain instead, learning French as he goes, so he can try again next year."
... ain't gonna find too many folks around the coast of Britain to
learn French from, or practice on... Could learn Welsh and maybe
some Gaelic.
Seer|2.29.08 @ 5:57PM|#
At which point the cycle begins anew, when, upon reaching
Baden-Baden, the poor lad will realize that he should have also
studied German.
I know this is a joke, but the Germans are far more accomodating to
people that don't speak German than the French are to people that
don't speak French. You can get by on English in Germany, most
people there know it. In France, even the people that know English
will be pissy that you're not speaking French.
|2.29.08 @ 5:57PM|#
People always think living without money would be great, til they actually have to try to do it.
|2.29.08 @ 6:03PM|#
If they have to turn back at every successive border crossing,
retrace their steps to Britain, learn a new language, and then
start over again... then this could take a long, long time.
Now, the question is - would it be easier to walk the long way
round (through Russia and China) or take a direct route through
more countries. I mean, Kharkov to Novysibirsk via Ekaterinaburg is
a rough slog, but you're only talking six languages in four
families. The more direct southern (Balkans and Turkey) and central
(Russia and central Asia) routes are linguistic death marches. The
southern is especially terrifying, with Magyar, Romanian, Turkish,
Farsi and Urdu in brisk succession. (Dear god, that really is
terrifying.)
GILMORE|2.29.08 @ 6:12PM|#
Shane | February 29, 2008, 5:08pm | #
had also seen us as just a bunch of freeloading backpackers, which
is the complete opposite of what the pilgrimage is really
about.
I'm genuinely confused. i thought that was his point, to convince
society that we should all be freeloading backpackers living off of
each other's kindness or something.
i never understood hippies, it's almost like they think being poor
and dirty is "cool" or something as long as you are high and filled
with love.
Yes.
It's a form of moral narcissism. Combined with a decision to beat
their rational insticts into a dark closet, barracade the door, and
let it starve.
I was trained to be a hippy. Before the implants could stick, the
experiments went wronger than Quaid in Running Man, and now I am
like the anti-hippy terminator. OK mixed metaphors, but who
cares.
"Economics. Its the anti-hippy."
Joel|2.29.08 @ 6:50PM|#
Quade was in Total Recall.
Well he did say it was a mixed metaphor. He didn't say how
mixed.
Aren't people generally supposed to have had time to grow out of
hippydom by age 28?
GILMORE|2.29.08 @ 6:50PM|#
Ah. right. BEN RICHARDS was the running man.
You got the idea though.
Benny: [shouts] Where the fuck are you?
Douglas Quaid: [killing him with a large drill] Screw
you!
Dave B.|2.29.08 @ 6:51PM|#
If his vision of a community-based, money-free society were realized, wouldn't this type of travel become impossible? Or does he somehow expect communities which are so tightly bound as to not require money to openly accept random strangers?
BakedPenguin|2.29.08 @ 6:56PM|#
Yeah, those damn Frenchies. You know what they do when they come here? They speak English! So you know they know it! Imagine them having the gaul to expect Americans and Brits to attempt to return the favor while visiting a country that speaks French. Fuckers.
|2.29.08 @ 7:15PM|#
The southern is especially terrifying, with Magyar,
Romanian, Turkish, Farsi and Urdu in brisk succession. (Dear god,
that really is terrifying.)
I speak 3 of those ! No kidding.
Guess which 3 ;)
|2.29.08 @ 7:25PM|#
I am impressed beyond measure (especially since I have a
dreadful time with languages beyond English. My no-longer-secret
shame, oh the woe!)
Hmm - the odds of picking the right combination out of sixty
possibilities is pretty slim, no? But if I had to guess, I'd say
Turkish, Farsi and Urdu for the (very broadly) Middle Eastern
trifecta.
Click \'n\' Learn|2.29.08 @ 7:30PM|#
One of the things that really perturbs me is to see someone
linking words to their Wikipedia entries, as is done at least twice
above.
I discuss some of the reasons why no one should do that
here and
here.
Korrekturleser|2.29.08 @ 7:33PM|#
the Germans are far more accomodating to people that don't
speak German than the French are to people that don't speak
French.
Le voilà !
Paul|2.29.08 @ 7:39PM|#
According to the BBC, the wandering Freeconomist was quickly mistaken for an indigent "because he could not speak French [and] people thought he was free-loading or an asylum seeker."
Or, all three.
|2.29.08 @ 7:40PM|#
I'm dreadful with languages too, I've lived in every country
where I've learned a language though and really struggled with each
one.
Good try Peachy, you got 2/3. I speak Turkish, Urdu, and Hungarian
from those three. I live in Hungary now.
|2.29.08 @ 7:47PM|#
Hmm - the odds of picking the right combination out of sixty
possibilities is pretty slim, no?
Yes, if there were 60 possibilities, but since there are actually
only 10 unique combinations your odds were much better than you
thought, though still not good enough, apparently. :)
GILMORE|2.29.08 @ 7:58PM|#
Click 'n' Learn | February 29, 2008, 7:30pm | #
One of the things that really perturbs me...
POOR BABY
IF YOU COULD TELL US ABOUT MORE THINGS THAT PERTURB YOU, WE WILL
INVEST HEAVILY IN ALL OF THEM. YOUR PAIN IS MY PLEASURE
ARRIBA ARRIBA ARRIBA ARRIBA ARRIBA ARRIBA ARRIBA ARRIBA ARRIBA
|2.29.08 @ 8:01PM|#
Oh, piffle - I forgot to knock out duplications. Let's pretend I was also guessing the order in which the languages had been learned...
ed|2.29.08 @ 8:05PM|#
isn't it easier to ignore them?
Yes, but if we did, the whole blogosphere would crumble.
Dare we risk it?
brian|2.29.08 @ 8:06PM|#
I thought libertarians were fine with people who decided to live differently without forcing others to adapt to their lifestyle. From the post here and the subsequent comments, I guess I was wrong...
|2.29.08 @ 8:10PM|#
Oh, mother of god, not this again. We need to have a
banner at the top of every thread
- "libertarians support the right of others to live their lives as
they see fit, whilst reserving the right to mock them
mercilessly."
Ska|2.29.08 @ 8:11PM|#
Drink.........
On his blog Boyles complained that "not only did no one not
(sic) speak the language,
This guy's bitching about not speaking the language? I speak the
language and am think WTF is he saying?
|2.29.08 @ 8:12PM|#
Theoretically, such a journey could be made by working as you go; being of enough service to a given household to get a place to sleep and a meal..........but it helps to speak the language
|2.29.08 @ 8:17PM|#
Brian, you may have noticed that no one has said that he should
be jailed, fined, or otherwise prevented from being a complete
moron. The opportunity to become an object of ridicule however is
an added bonus and part and parcel of the freedom to do what you
want.
For example I think BASE jumping should be completely legal. I
think people that do it are morons.
|2.29.08 @ 8:22PM|#
In France, even the people that know English will be pissy
that you're not speaking French.
Only if you go there expecting them to speak English. If you at
least make the attempt to speak French, they will usually give you
a break. Just not in Paris. But you've got to make the effort to
speak their language first.
Think of how people in this country get hacked when someone comes
here and doesn't speak English. At least with the French it's a
matter of pride and not ignorance.
|2.29.08 @ 8:25PM|#
Aren't people generally supposed to have had time to grow
out of hippydom by age 28?
Not if the trust fund hasn't run out.
|2.29.08 @ 8:29PM|#
Romanian, Turkish, and Farsi. Because Urdu is too easy, and if you were Hungarian, you'd brag about it.
|2.29.08 @ 8:31PM|#
Oh, I need to remember to read the WHOLE thread before I post, tsk tsk. And you DO live in Hungary, and you DID brag about it. Good man. :)
M|2.29.08 @ 8:43PM|#
I was told that the definition of a Hungarian is someone who enters a revolving door behind you and emerges in front of you. Is that true?
|2.29.08 @ 9:04PM|#
Geez Speedwell,
Romanian is much easier than Urdu - at least it is if you already
know some Latin, Spanish or Italian.
Brandybuck|3.1.08 @ 1:51AM|#
Theoretically, such a journey could be made by working as you go; being of enough service to a given household to get a place to sleep and a meal
What a great idea! I think this is the key to the freeconomy
movement. Let me expound on this, if I may. There will certainly be
households he runs across that don't need him to be of service at
all, and others where he could be of great service. In the interest
of efficiency (and avoiding cold rainy nights outdoors), it would
be nice if he could even out his swings of luck. Since this is all
"community based", perhaps he could get a credit of some kind at a
house where he is of greater service, to use at a house where he is
of lesser service. He could save up these service credits for his
long trip through Afghanistan, where there are few rain gutters for
him to clean out or snow on sidewalks to shovel. If there were some
form of universal credit that most people would accept, his trip
would be much easier. He might even be able to exchange some of his
service credits for lift into town.
If only we can figure out a solution to this, then we can finally
dump that old nasty corrupting money stuff!
Mark Twain|3.1.08 @ 10:37AM|#
One of the things that really perturbs me is to see someone
linking words to their Wikipedia entries, as is done at least twice
above.
Suppose you were an idiot. Suppose you were The Lone Wacko. But I
repeat myself.
|3.1.08 @ 2:39PM|#
Yeah, those damn Frenchies. You know what they do when they
come here? They speak English! So you know they know it! Imagine
them having the gaul to expect Americans and Brits to attempt to
return the favor while visiting a country that speaks French.
Fuckers.
As a monolinguistic Ugly American who has visited many different
nations (20 or so) I've found that if I apologize for my ignorance
and order the local beer, somebody who will help you out. Often
somebody who wants the practice of speaking the defacto
international language, English. If you count New Caledonia, (a
territory) that includes France. Look sheepish, open your wallet
and order something alcoholic. I've never been in situations where
my ignorance is sneered at.
It helps considerably if you have currency, local or American
doesn't matter. I'd have been a hippie but for that inability to
consistently ignore reality.
|3.1.08 @ 2:45PM|#
One of the things that really perturbs me is to see someone
linking words to their Wikipedia entries, as is done at least
twice above. who's a complete monomaniacial moron, who
attempts to hijack threads toward his own paranoid obsession,
complaining about others intertubes manners.
Get the hint there, lonewhackoff?
|3.1.08 @ 5:58PM|#
Next time he should jut bring along the Universal Translator, i.e. money. He'll have no trouble getting along, getting food to eat, and a place to be warm. He wouldn't evenneed to try to learn French while begging along the coast of the UK.
|3.1.08 @ 7:56PM|#
"You kids just don't understand because you haven't been to
College."
I really had a lot of fun hanging out with hippies in college. We
smoked the absolute best pot, drank the best local brews, had fun
with some really cool chicks. Most were living off of their
well-to-do parents generosity - I was working my way through. Of
course I wasn't going to be a douche and point out that how I was
living was a bit more principled than some white kid with dreads
and a nice car, apartment, whatever. Saved that for a blog 10 years
later. College was fun; I miss it.
bill|3.1.08 @ 8:58PM|#
"because he could not speak French people thought he was
free-loading "
Well ya, that's exactly what he was doing! What a douche.
freewheelin\'?|3.2.08 @ 1:06AM|#
I have no problem with someone wanting to explore an alternative lifestyle (hey, whatever happened to celebrating 'freewheelin' in Reason?). And actually, I think it's in the spirit of liberty that all sorts of freaks, geeks, goths, hipsters and hippies, should have much room to experiment in a free society. Maybe the guy is a bit silly, but maybe it's not a bad thing to explore something different from what's offered on mainstreet, madison avenue, or the usual rat race choices. It could be interesting trying out a kundalini/rastafarrian ashram for a year or two. Or maybe a minute or two. I only have a problem if such hipsters want to impose their choices on the rest of us.
Brandybuck|3.2.08 @ 1:50PM|#
hey, whatever happened to celebrating 'freewheelin' in Reason?
That guy certainly has the absolute to be a freewheelin'
freedloader, but he has no right not to be laughed at.
|3.2.08 @ 4:10PM|#
Um, can someone explain the difference to me between being a
"freetarian" or whatever they call themselves, and being a bum
panhandling for baksheesh? Especially if you look (and smell) like
one?
Guess the French didn't think there was that much difference
either....
Ken|3.3.08 @ 6:40PM|#
Grumpy Realist: I think the difference is that freetarians offer to exchange valuable work in exchange for goods. For instance, in this case, you could give him some food, and he could take the time to explain dialectical materialism to you, and how it is only false consciousness that causes you to labor in exchange for money so that you can buy food which you can then give him so he will stop talking about dialectical materialism.
|3.4.08 @ 9:21AM|#
This is weird. My wife's nephew who is 21 abandoned all his possessions a year ago to live in India and now is planning to move to England. Now he wishes he hadn't given all the stuff away.
|3.4.08 @ 12:11PM|#
People get annoyed that you can't get by in France without
speaking French. Has anyone ever tried to get by in the US without
English ( or Spanish in some neighborhoods)? I really wish you
luck. You are going to be talking to yourself.
I can't speak for the English, but in America, if you didn't learn
another language at home, it is very unlikely that you will learn
one anywhere else.
To me, this seems like the kettle calling to pot black.
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