Kerry Howley | February 4, 2008
The Tatmadaw and 65 percent of critics agree: Rambo sucks. According to some reports of extremely dubious origin, Than Shwe's men have banned the film. Since the only copies available will be pirated, that makes them extra illegal.
"People are going crazy with the quote 'Live for nothing, die for something'," one resident said, referring to the tagline of the fourth Rambo installment, which opened in the United States this week.
Even though it received lukewarm reviews, it is likely to be a sure-fire hit with opponents of the junta, with some even hoping it could spur a change of regime in the impoverished southeast Asian nation.
As with previous Rambo films, it is short on plot and long on blood and guts -- although viewers appear to think it is all relative.
"Rambo acted very cruelly, but his cruelty is nothing compared to that of the military junta," a Myanmar student in Thailand, who did not wish to be named, told Reuters.
Defy the junta and enjoy some reason on Rambo.
Hat Tip: Bill Piper.
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I ENJOYED the new Rambo movie. All the critics that did not enjoy the story line or the digital effects of a bunch of assholes getting chopped to pieces by an M2 can go watch Brokeback Mountain again.
"I ENJOYED the new Rambo movie. All the critics that did not
enjoy the story line or the digital effects of a bunch of assholes
getting chopped to pieces by an M2 can go watch Brokeback Mountain
again."
Digital effects......bunch of assholes.....Brokeback
Mountain.
Eric, I think you're on to something here.........
it is short on plot and long on blood and guts --
And with enough action in it so that foreign audiences don't need
to understand the dialog to enjoy it. American movies are made with
foreign distribution in mind. Perhaps that is why so many of them
only appeal to kids - or those with a kid's mentality. It's been a
long time since I ran across an action flick that I thought was
worth the time to sit through.
Perhaps that is why so many of them only appeal to kids - or
those with a kid's mentality.
Upon re-reading what I just wrote I've realized how incredibly
elitist or condescending that reads. I did not mean to imply that
foreign audiences are childish or immature - what I meant was that
the movies are simple enough that people can figure out what is
going on even though they don't understand what the characters are
saying.
'Live for nothing, die for something'
I think the suicide bombers already sympathize with Rambo's
attitude.
I wonder how much of the recruiting work for the
"let's-die-for-something-and-take-20-suckers-with-me" squads is
done by this kind of movies ...
It may turn out that the most effective way to promote democracy in places like Burma, is to make Rambo movies where he kick's the Junta's ass. Probably more effective than Condoleeza Rice going all over the place condescendingly expressing "concern" about this or that, or lame proclamations from a lame duck pres.
Douglas Gray | February 4, 2008, 10:52pm:
"It may turn out that the most effective way to promote democracy
in places like Burma"
If it will get seen by others than the already privileged, it will
more likely promote only "ass kicking", not democracy.
My guess is democracy is more about talking than "kicking the
tyrant's ass". Burma had enough "ass kinking" as it is, and another
guess of mine is that the fear of getting themselves kicked real
hard is the only thing that prevents the Junta from overthrowing
themselves, the way the Communists in the Easter Europe did.
i tried to watch first blood years ago and couldn't get into it. seems like an 80s thing that didn't need to come back. you compare rambo to something like the teriminator films they've aged a lot better.
Since the only copies available will be pirated, that makes them extra illegal.
Ever been to South-East Asia? There might be some non-pirated
DVDs available there, but I've never seen any. And I don't know how
well they would compete with the professionally produced
10-for-a-dollar pirate copies.
Two things I noticed about the movie. First: it portrays the
opposition to the murderous dictatorship as a unitary if
underfunded group of freedom fighters, while in reality there is a
multiway fight going on there (Karen, Shan, Wa, and SDPC, among
other contestants), mostly for control of the lucrative opium
business. Which, if I remember correctly, was sort of the situation
with the last Rambo movie.
Second: in the movie, everybody was wearing pants. Burmese don't
wear pants. Not usually anyway; the average Burmese wears an
ankle-length sarong called a longyi.
They wear this longyi even in combat situations?
Man, I can imagine facing down a hundred armed junta soldiers with
nothing but an AK47, but to dto that with the wind blowing past my
balls?
*shudder*
just saw it tonight. Total awesomeness in it's overkill. It felt
like a throwback to 80's action flicks with a modern twist.
8/10
btw, this film did a good job on actually spreading a message as
well. Before this film, I,sadly, didn't know anything about Burma.
I kenw there was genocide and terrible things happening in africa,
but nothing in asia. The film has encouraged me to do more research
on the situation there, and see what is being done about it.
Im glad to see that many people here are able enjoy Rambo for it really is. A throw back to the 80-90s action flick, not some pretention attempt at an Oscar.
Here in the Arab world the pirate DVDs are anywhere from $2 to
$5 a piece, and most of them are nowhere near professionally
done.
Most of them look like they were filmed by Kramer in the movie
theater. Some of them you can hear the conversation of the couple
in front of the camera man, some of them you miss a part of the
movie when the guy filming goes to the bathroom or smokes a joint
or whatever.
I guess if you get to know the dealer, you can get a guy that will
tell you which are the bogus copies, which ones were filmed on
someones cell phone, and which ones are the good ones.
You might pay more $10 to $10 for a movie that was hacked so it has
the full quality of a production DVD, I'm willing to pay that to
watch a quality movie, but those are hard to find.
Another note, the pirated DVDs are sold openly on US bases, but
alcohol isn't.
If the Burmese Junta is going after Rambo, they better remember
one thing.
A good supply of body bags.
After reading this thread, I anticipate the junta and the US government coming to an agreement on trade. The US will agree to remove some of the sanctions in place, and Than Shwe will agree to hunt down every seller of pirated DVDs in Burma.
Okay, I'm reposting something I posted too late last
Rambpost:
Pro Libertate | January 28, 2008, 10:09pm | #
Crap. I wish I'd remembered this sooner. Bob Rivers did a song parody called "Rambo On" (to the tune of Led Zeppelin's "Ramble On"). You can find the tune here. Here's the lyrics:
Bodies dropping all around,
Blood is flyin' your way.
Rambo III has hit the screen,
Oh, what a happy day.
I'm coming to get you!
We gonna' Rambo on.
They did one or two,
Just for you.
They're gonna' drag it on,
After Rambo X,
They'll do it again.
We gonna' Rambo on.
He can't be beat,
But his brain is dead meat.
Like a one ounce steak,
It sure looks clear that
Rambo's gonna' stay.
Another round of shells and mortar,
A few more Commies blown away.
Another wordless script,
Of yelps and yutz.
What the hell did he say?
We gonna' Rambo on.
He's gonna' nuke those pukes
With big bazooks
And leave the camera on.
He's gonna' shoot shoot shoot.
We gonna' Rambo on.
And make it last
With a napalm blast.
Shoot shoot shoot shoot.
I guess I can Rambo on.
Rambo Rambo Rambo Rambo.
When can we expect Rambo vs. Rocky? I mean, at least give us Rambo vs. Ray Tango.
Guns are the problem. Unless you just want these guys in a ring, fighting by whatever rules supposedly apply to boxing.
Honestly, I would be entertained if they put Rambo and Rocky in a ring and let them go at it, even if Rambo had a Kalashnikov. It would be over too quickly, but at least one of the franchises would be gone.
Given their respective movie powers, I think the humans have an excellent chance.
You are both silly. None of them would stand a chance against Machine Gun Joe Viterbo.
Given their respective movie powers, I think the humans have
an excellent chance.
I predict Rocky's team will lose, but it will feel like a win
I really liked Rambo II, but Rambo III isn't very good (I doubt if I'll be seeing Rambo IV). What turned me off Rambo III was when Rambo kills some fresh-faced young Russian conscript. Here's this kid, just minding his own business, hoping to get home alive, and this ugly, muscle-bound psycho sneaks up behind him and breaks his neck.
Well, Atavist, you don't have to worry about that in this one. Rambo IV makes it a point to show how effed in the head the badguys are
I'd like to see Rambo against the ?84? chicago bears, you know, the year they had that awesome defense and Peyton.
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