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|11.16.07 @ 12:04PM|#
Have to wait till I get home to watch. I have some vague recollection of hearing Loder describe himself as "libertarian".
Miggs|11.16.07 @ 12:04PM|#
Nice hair helmet, Nick.
|11.16.07 @ 12:13PM|#
"Nice hair helmet, Nick."
Gillespie = The Danzig of Punditry.
|11.16.07 @ 12:39PM|#
Warren:
I have the same recollection of Bill Maher, and we all know how well THAT turned out...
|11.16.07 @ 1:12PM|#
When you look at the poll numbers for the candidates, it is easy to conclude that America wants a nanny state. The anti-nanny state candidates are in single digits. Well, Ron Paul may be the only anti-nanny state candidate.
|11.16.07 @ 1:28PM|#
Kurt Loder of MTV and Rolling Stone talks with Nick Gillespie about technology, freedom, and fighting back against the nanny state in all its incarnations.
Well, not ALL of the nanny state's incarnations -- Loder tried to duck the question about allowing segregation in private businesses, saying in effect, well, gee, that's not what America's about, so why should we allow it?
|11.16.07 @ 1:28PM|#
I saw this last weekend on C-SPAN. What took so long in posting it here?
GILMORE|11.16.07 @ 1:29PM|#
"Get a Loder this"?
ouch. ick. ptew. yuck.
The "'crying on the outside' kind of clown" line was nice off the cuff
|11.16.07 @ 1:31PM|#
Woot New Jersey!
Paul|11.16.07 @ 1:32PM|#
Loder tried to duck the question about allowing segregation in private businesses, saying in effect
I haven't seen the interview yet, but I mean, can we give the man a break?
|11.16.07 @ 1:44PM|#
When you look at the poll numbers for the candidates, it is easy to conclude that America wants a nanny state. The anti-nanny state candidates are in single digits. Well, Ron Paul may be the only anti-nanny state candidate.
It could just be that most people roll their eyes the grade-schoolish "nanny state" label that libertarians still seem to think is clever and pursuasive.
|11.16.07 @ 1:57PM|#
It could just be that most people roll their eyes the grade-schoolish "nanny state" label that libertarians still seem to think is clever and pursuasive.
Would these be the same "most people" who DON'T roll their eyes when some smarmy politician justifies the latest legislative opression with "but ... but ... it's for The Children"?
|11.16.07 @ 1:59PM|#
Would these be the same "most people" who DON'T roll their eyes when some smarmy politician justifies the latest legislative opression with "but ... but ... it's for The Children"?
Perhaps. Normal people do recognize that the well-being of children is important.
Miggs|11.16.07 @ 2:00PM|#
Dan is in full troll mode today. Please try your best to ignore him.
ed|11.16.07 @ 2:02PM|#
Maybe he's having his period.
Paul|11.16.07 @ 3:27PM|#
Perhaps. Normal people do recognize that the well-being of children is important.
And at any cost, natch. Oh, and diminishing returns be damned. Give up a bunch of freedoms for a negligible if non-existent uptick in the overall health of children across a broad demographic, we're all good there, too. Not even to mention that the welfare of the child is first and foremost the responsibility of the parent. But yes, I know, sometimes parents need a little help when it comes to keeping the little nippers from eating too much candy, drinking too much soda and playing too many violent video games. Afterall, what's a parent to do? Next thing, you'll be expecting us to actually engage with our kids and find out what they're doing. That's a slippery slope that has no end, to be sure.
|11.16.07 @ 3:35PM|#
Slightly o/t but I'm really tired of tv features on my interwebs. If I wanted to watch tv, I'd be doing so. If I'm on the webs, I want to read.
And looks at pics too.
But NO TV.
|11.16.07 @ 3:40PM|#
Dan, why do you hate freedom?
|11.16.07 @ 3:42PM|#
Dan, why do you hate freedom?
Because it's just another word for "nothing left to lose".
|11.16.07 @ 3:53PM|#
Well, not ALL of the nanny state's incarnations -- Loder tried to duck the question about allowing segregation in private businesses, saying in effect, well, gee, that's not what America's about, so why should we allow it?
"There was a time in this country not to long ago when the brutal unjust institutions of segregation, rather then reform, threatened to tear the very fabric of this nation apart....smoking in bars is no such threat."
That is what he should have said.
Skoal|11.16.07 @ 7:31PM|#
Maybe he's having his period.
I think he's got sand in his vagina.
|11.16.07 @ 8:06PM|#
I roll my eyes at the left's "patriarchal state". What goes around comes around.