Radley Balko | October 12, 2007
USA Today reports that the Justice Department hasn't spent the first nickel of the $8 million Congress allotted for the purpose of testing DNA samples in cases where an innocent person may have been convicted.
TalkLeft's Jeralyn Merritt comments:
I'm not surprised, given DOJ's opposition to the Innocence Protection Act all along. By the time the bill was passed, it was stripped of the most meaningful protections and turned into a victims' rights bill, even being renamed The Justice For All Act.
The National Institute for Justice, which administers the grants, claims Congress attached onerous rules to the grants that effectively make it impossible for the states to obtain them.
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the Justice Department hasn't spent the first nickel of the
$8 million Congress allotted
Great news for libertarians! It's good to see the DOJ is on board
with small government. That money was taken from us at the point of
a gun, btw.
I wouldn't even know where to begin on ripping that idiotic trollish comment, Mr. Tarrant.
ha ha, silly congress, thinking the DOJ cares about justice instead of getting convictions.
Oh my God! Did he really just say that! This merits 100+ comments in response!
Look, we can't have innocent people freed. That would sow doubt about the criminal justice system and prosecutors and cops. Then how would we put people in jail for smoking a plant?
ha ha, silly congress, thinking the DOJ cares about justice
instead of getting convictions.
It is not up to the DOJ to seek justice. That is up to the
defendant's defense counsel. If they are innocent they will be
freed on appeal.
It is not unconstitutional to convict an innocent person, even to
death, provided that they had a fair trial. The suppreme court has
ruled as such.
Fair, no, but life is not fair.
um... could I get a cite of where the Supreme Court ruled it's constitutional to sentence an innocent man to death because of poor defense?
Look, we can't have innocent people freed. That would sow
doubt about the criminal justice system and prosecutors and cops.
Then how would we put people in jail for smoking a
plant?
Yes, and what if we accidently free an 'innocent' person who is
really guilty of smoking a plant? There are lots of pot smokers out
there who are not yet in prison. Is it really worth the risk to
perhaps let the guilty free.
That story is, as usual, quite unhelpful.
Who put those conditions in the bill? Is the Justice Department
unable to provide grants because of what was in the legislation, or
because of internal regulations that Justice itself
promulgated?
Boy, you guys are a little touchy today. I guess seeing Al Gore win the NPP has thinned everybody's skin a little.
The money is a classic, strings-attached grant to states by the federal government. That DOJ is keeping the money from the states applying for it is the best thing that can be hoped to preserve federalism in the justice system.
um... could I get a cite of where the Supreme Court ruled
it's constitutional to sentence an innocent man to death because of
poor defense?
O'Connor
reiterated the majority's conclusion that the execution of an
innocent person was not unconstitutional by assuming that there was
no constitutional issue raised:
Great news for libertarians! It's good to see the DOJ is on
board with small government. That money was taken from us at the
point of a gun, btw.
It is not unlibertarian to spend government money to expose
government misfeasance and/or malfeasance.
This favored law is one example. Ron Paul calling for an
investigation of the FAA is another.
There are lots of pot smokers people out there
who are not yet in prison.
I think this is more what you have in mind.
DanT:
you've been jumping and down with glee since he won the documentary
prize. he won the peace one, too? wow.
Somehow I thought Rummy was gonna win that one.
It is not unlibertarian to spend government money to expose
government misfeasance and/or malfeasance.
Seriously, this may be the first time I've heard the budget for a
government project and thought, "That seems a bit low."
Aside from the huge controversy that's about to erupt over the
Office for Promoting Unity Between Strippers and Jerks who Comment
on Subversive Blogs.
DanT:
you've been jumping and down with glee since he won the documentary
prize. he won the peace one, too? wow.
Somehow I thought Rummy was gonna win that one.
I'm pretty sure Fox News is planning on sponsoring a Nobel Prize
for War where Rummy might be a contender. Of course, he's no good
at war so maybe not.
:)
But he sure has the tuff guy poses down when he flexes into his
mirror!
The Faux News Awards:
Peace - what the fuck is that
Literature - gawd for that greatest book
Science - there is no such thing
Medicine - Balloon maker, since he's cute as a button and just as
scientific as the ID'ers.
this is fun.
(and when i heard that AlGore (algore algore) won one of the
prizes, the thought of some of the posts of the usual suspects
actually didn't cross my mind)
Boy, you guys are a little touchy today. I guess seeing Al
Gore win the NPP has thinned everybody's skin a little.
Actually, this libertarian doesn't care that much. I don't have a
thing against Al Gore.
Let's see: Congress allocated $8 million for the DOJ to perform tests that will realistically cost about $2k. We could almost get new tests for everyone on death row in Texas.
DAN T:
Is it the Democrats who supported the war or the Libertarians? What
is your front-runner's stance on the war? Was is the Democrats who
supported the Patriot Act? Why are bringing rummy out? The Dems
have supported Bush ever step of his presidency. They only started
changing their tune when the war became unpopular. What is worse
than being wrong? Exactly what the democrats did, know something
was wrong and support it anyway for political expediency.
Is it the Democrats who supported the war or the
Libertarians?
Neither, it was the Republicans. Evev in 2002, the Democrats in
Congress voted against the AUMF by a 16 point margin,
58%-42%.
What is your front-runner's stance on the war?, It was a
mistake to start it, we should end it, we should start withdrawing
troops immediately, and it's going to take some time to end it
entirely. That, btw, represents the far-right end of the spectrum
of Democratic opinions on the war.
BTW, your perception of Dan T's politics are as deluded as your
perception of Democrats'. He is a self-described libertarian.
He is a self-described libertarian.
Bck, bck, what?! I'm quite sure he's not on our list. Dan T., is
this true?!
I am a self-decribed best looking man on earth. Doesnt make it
so.
Dan T is a democrat. Nobody else likes al gore.
You are being a bit obtuse about the Democrats opposing the war by
a margin of 52% to 48%. That was the vote but it is well known that
the Democratic leadership made certain that a large enough % of the
Dems had to vote to support the war to not look weak, but enough
had to oppose the war vote to appease their constituents. Who voted
which way was not based on beliefs but on DNC fiat.
Joe--Hillary Clinton has been a long time supporter of the war. She
adopted a new position as it became politically feasible. She
shifts with the wind.
I notice you were silent on the Dems support of the Patriot Act,
domestic spying, war funding...
If my perceptions of the democrats is deluded, please enlighten me.
BTW, please do use the word "progressive" to describe your party.
We all known the word progressive is a euphimism for socialist.
Joe, if you can't tell the difference between a libertarian and Dan T., then I have to wonder if you've been paying attention at all while you've been a regular here.
That, btw, represents the far-right end of the spectrum of
Democratic opinions on the war.
Which is odd, considering that the overwhelming favorite for the
Democratic Presidential nomination doesn't share at least some of
these views, and the Democratic Congress has yet to pass any
legislation consistent with these views. Its almost like their
professed principles don't translate into action, or something
(which would be weird, for a politician, I know).
Boy, you guys are a little touchy today. I guess seeing Al
Gore win the NPP has thinned everybody's skin a little.
I'm pretty sure that the comments on that particularly egregious
piece of trollery would have come just as thick and fast if Dan T
had thrown it out at the end of a week in which Ron Paul had been
elected president, the Controlled Substances Act repealed, and the
BATFE abolished (after its headquarters had been stormed by an
angry mob and its director's head paraded around D.C. on the end of
a pike). Even amidst all the revelry and high-fiving, some of us
would have found the time to pause, point, and say, "What a
maroon."
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