David Weigel | August 27, 2007
The attorney general of the United States is going out the door and I can't really better the Fark headline:
White House officials say Attorney General Gonzales has submitted his letter of resignation. However Gonzales says he can't recalling writing any such letter, or his reasons for taking such an action.
Bit inaccurate, though: Gonzales made a phone call, not a Dear John letter.
Mr. Gonzales, who had rebuffed calls for his resignation, submitted his to President Bush by telephone on Friday, the official said. His decision was not immediately announced, the official added, until after the president invited him and his wife to lunch at his ranch near here.
Mr. Bush has not yet chosen a replacement but will not leave the position open long, the official said, speaking on condition of anonymity because the resignation had not yet been made public.
There were two big theories about how the Bush administration would operate when the Democrats took over Congress. One optimistic theory was that the White House would recover its cojones and do righteous battle with the opposition. That hasn't really happened, except on Iraq. The other theory, that the administration would sort of crumble and fade under pressure, is looking more solid.
Earlier this year I saluted Gonzales for making the "chicken little" critics of White House power look so wise.
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The other theory, that the administration would sort of
crumble and fade under pressure, is looking more solid.
Well, I'm just glad we've got a divided government. Let's remember,
Gonzales is what we got after Ashcroft stepped asside. And Gates is
what we got when Rumsfeld got elbowed.
And Weigel adds Sam Peckinpah references to his article titles. Good deal.
I've been screaming for his head since the Schlesinger Report.
The firing of US Attorneys wasn't really the issue for me--but I'm
so glad he's gone.
I'm not sure who to thank for this. Maybe it's the Democrats in
Congress? If so, I thank them.
...that makes me pretty freakin' magnanimous, doesn't it?
"Maybe Bush will go back to the road not taken, and nominate
Marc Racicot."
Whatever he does, I think he'll go with someone from within his
inner circle, someone he really trusts. ...like Harriet Miers or
maybe his wife.
Props for the Sam Peckinpah reference. I'm guessing that the DoJ
will function just as well without a befuddled amnestic leader.
Maybe they'll leave the position unfilled. Or maybe nominate Barney
-- that worked so well for Caligula.
BUSH: The Attorney General will now announce the new anti-terror
policy.
BARNEY: WOOF WOOF!
BUSH: This policy is enforcable by seizure of assets, imprisonment,
and death. Good night, and God bless America!
Washington, D.C., August 24, 2007:
BUSH: You're doin' a heckuva job, Gonzo.
GONZALES: Shit.
That's it! You're all on my list! Every single lousy one of you! You're all on my list!
Gonzalez is without a doubt the most incompetant AG ever. More
incompetant than Janet Reno and that is really saying
something.
"The other theory, that the administration would sort of crumble
and fade under pressure, is looking more solid."
WTF? How does finally getting rid of the weakest link in the
administration somehow crumbling? Of course if Gonzalez had stayed
on for the duration, Weigel would be writing how the Bush
administration could have done so much better if they had just lost
dead weight like Gonzalez and righted itself. Now that it does that
we get "the administration is crumblingt". Whatever. I don't know
what the future holds any more than Weigel, but one thing is for
sure, this moron hitting the door cannot be a bad thing.
Pro,
He will go and be a rain maker at some big law firm. Make millions
based on his connections and be kept in his office and allowed to
do only simple legal tasks so he doesn't do any damage. Some law
firm will pay him big to say they have "a former attorney general"
as a partner and then put him in his office and try to keep him
from embarassing them.
Adam W.,
That works, too. Just give me an apostrophe.
John,
No doubt. Which is why I want the job :)
The White House is looking more and more like "Big Brother 8", except that Bush always has the Power of Pardon, and that nobody gets to eat slop. Maybe that is what is needed to get the rest of the "housemates" to leave!
Maybe the branches should just agree to eliminate the AG
position altogether, since nobody chosen to fill the position seems
to do the job admirably.
Speaking of which, what exactly is the Attorney General's
job?
Not that Gonzales doesn't deserve to get forced out on his own merits. . .or lack thereof.
Speaking of which, what exactly is the Attorney General's
job?
In theory the U.S. Attorney General oversees all aspects of law
enforcement and criminal prosecution on behalf of the federal
government.
He or she also serves as the chief attorney for the government when
it is sued. That's why when you sue the government it is seen as
"YOU" v. "The Attorney General" and not "YOU" v. The United States
of America.
Well, no, educatus's second point isn't quite right. One doesn't name a party's attorney in a lawsuit, one names the party. And you do in fact see Joe Public vs. United States cases all the time. The AG gets named in lawsuits when the person is suing him/her as the administrator of some DOJ program, just as the various Cabinet Secretaries are named when the dispute is over some aspect of USDA, HHS, DOD, etc., functioning.
KRK's point is also not quite right. It's not Joe Public vs. United States, it's United States vs. Joe Public. When the federal government brings up a case it serves AS the government, whereas when YOU sue the government, you can't really sue the same institution that you are trying the case in, so in that situation the AG is the represented body.
Even when YOU sue the government, the AG is only the appropriate
named party when it's a DOJ matter. Thousands of people sue the
federal government every year without naming the AG because they're
(properly) suing the head of the department or agency against whom
they have a grievance. And when people who don't know any better
file a suit against the "United States," as they do, the federal
courts don't say they can't hear the case.
All of this is beside the point. I'm just glad that from now on
whenever Alberto Gonzales is named as a party-defendant, he won't
be there on my dime.
Chuck Hagel predicted this resignation a few weeks ago at a
Panetta Institute Lecture that I attended:
"The news of the day was Karl Rove's resignation. Panetta wondered whether the resignation could have an effect rehabilitating the last year of the Bush presidency. Graham was dismissive, saying it is just too late for this President to salvage his legacy. Hagel was more sanguine, saying that Rove and Gonzales are lightning rods for criticism and their resignations would open a door. He spun a scenario where Gonzales also resigns, Bush shifts strategy on Iraq in the fall, and gets a major piece of bi-partisan legislation through congress next year. That, he asserts would elevate the Bush legacy."
Hagel seems to have his finger on the political pulse of this White
House, and it may make sense to pay attention to the rest of that
prediction. He also said that the administration year end strategy
shift on Iraq and the beginning of a drawdown was telegraphed by
Gates on Meet The Press.
So, the answer to the AG resignation timing, courtesy of Chuck
Hagel: The Rove resignation, Gonzales resignation, and the
beginning the Iraq drawdown are all part of the George W
Bush Presidential Legacy Rehabilitation Surge. GWB has
surprised those who "misunderestimated" him before.
Methinks that rumors of the death of this presidency and the
Republican party have been greatly exaggerated.
I'm interested to see who Bush nominates to take his places. If he nominates an Ashcroft or Gonzales clone when the Democrats control the Senate, hes more stubborn than I thought.
Cesar,
I thought it was 51-49 after the defection of James Jeffords to the
D's. Or did that happen later?
The difference isn't in who controlls the Congress, it's in the
level of benefit-of-the-doubt the president is afforded, and the
willingness of Congress to abide by gentlemens' agreements.
Bush has proven that he doesn't deserve any benefit of the doubt,
and that he has absolutely no intention of paying back any effort
by the Congress to avoid stepping on his toes.
I say good riddance to the AG. With his tolerance of torture he
might as well have been spitting on our flag as he ignored our
constitution.
I remember when a reporter asked him about the effect of a certain
court ruling limiting the abuse of detainees. Gonzales answered
that the court ruling might only be germane to AQ members…..
I thought it was 51-49 after the defection of James Jeffords
to the D's. Or did that happen later?
About four months later.
mw
(Hagel) also said that the administration year end strategy
shift on Iraq and the beginning of a draw down was telegraphed by
Gates on Meet The Press.
If so, we can hope that there's also a strategy shift away from the
planned attack on Iran. But I think that that's
too optimistic. Watch for the administration to utilize an
announcement of an Iraq draw down for political cover so they can
attack Iran.
If they do attack Iran without congressional approval, then and
only then is it impeachment time.
mw:
So, the answer to the AG resignation timing, courtesy of Chuck
Hagel: The Rove resignation, Gonzales resignation, and the
beginning the Iraq drawdown are all part of the George W Bush
Presidential Legacy Rehabilitation Surge.
We can hope for that scenario cuz due to the Bush administration,
the outlook now is for a lot of relatively more libertarian
Republican congressional candidates to lose to a lot of relatively
less libertarian Democratic candidates. The ideological superiority
of the GOP candidates will be accentuated and the utility of more
GOP members in congress will be increased with the advent of a Pres
Hillary or Pres Berak.
The confirmation vote for Gonzales was 60-36, 4 not voting, so
arguing about who controlled the Senate at the time isn't relevant.
Hopefully this time some harder questions will get asked during the
confirmation hearing.
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=1&vote=00003
Rick Barton,
OT - I had a classmate by the name of Rick Barton from the
University of Colorado 30 years ago. He borrowed six hundred
dollars from me and refused to pay it back. If you are that Rick
Barton, you'll have to send me a check before I can respond to your
comments. The one you sent me 30 years ago bounced.
Well, it should be too hard to find a replacement. Lots of graduates from Regent University, Liberty University, Bob Jones University, or some other Bible-beater diploma mill to choose from.
mw,
Very cute! But please email me cuz I don't see a way to contact you
thru the site you linked to. Just click on my name.
Haha. What a great headline. The man, no matter how wrong he has been lately, devoted quite a bit of his life to public service. So naturally, the editors of this site feel it is appropriate to use a headline alluding to a movie where the individual is assassinated. Pure class. Remind me again why 99% of the population does not take anything that libertarians say seriously.
"I say good riddance to the AG. With his tolerance of torture he
might as well have been spitting on our flag as he ignored our
constitution."
Good thing this canard has not been refuted by literally dozens of
legal scholars or I might have to accuse you of hyperbole.
Bopo,
Please cite some of those literally dozens of legal
scholars who not connected with the Bush administration.
And note that Gonzales said the Convention Against Torture treaty,
as ratified by the Senate, doesn't prohibit the use of "cruel,
inhuman or degrading" tactics on non-U.S. citizens who are captured
abroad, in Iraq or elsewhere.
And see: "The double standard that underlies our torture
policies."
http://www.slate.com/id/2130028/?nav=ais
Bopo:
The man, no matter how wrong he has been lately, devoted quite
a bit of his life to public service.
All that means is that he worked for the government. So what? Big
deal! By itself, that's nothing to be proud of. It just means that
he gets his pay from taxpayers who don't have a choice about giving
it to him.
Remind me again why 99% of the population does not take
anything that libertarians say seriously.
Bopo, I'm a conservative and a Republican. Do you know who said:
"If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of
conservatism is libertarianism. The basis of conservatism is a
desire for less government interference or less centralized
authority or more individual freedom and this is a pretty general
description also of what libertarianism is."
It was Ronald Reagan
http://www.reason.com/news/show/29318.html
This should give you an idea of why I would despise someone who
makes legal pretext for torture. Torture is incompatible with the
value of the sanctity of the individual.
Bopo,
Lastly, your criticism of the editors of this site seems to be a
non sequitur.
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