June 21, 2007
Steve Chapman explains why hearing about mergers makes regulators' knees knock together.
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As with most regulation (especially consumer safety and
discrimination), this fits the following pattern:
1: Egregious abuses are committed
2: Laws are passed to eliminate the egregious abuses
3: The agencies/people enforcing those laws develop political power
and interests
4: Regulatory creep leads to the law being applied to cases that
are less and less egregious
The point is not that corporations will never try to
suppress competition.. The point is that they will usually fail,
because of the many choices available to the buying public-and that
on the rare occasions when they succeed, the success is invariably
fleeting.
Sounds like an empirical claim. How can we test it?
Lest we not forget, ONLY the government can create/enforce a
monopoly, which they do repeatedly by using threat of force against
the competition. You know, for our own good.
Companies can form natural monopolies in which they beat other
competitors so badly that no one else is around to play, but once
profits rise some new guy will come in and compete.
A lot of the stuff in that column strikes me as the more naive
sort of economic predictions that I wish libertarians wouldn't
make. You can't easily predict what will happen in a market, which
was Hayek's point. For us to pretend that we know what will happen
is just as mistaken as when a liberal claims to know (and then
proceeds to regulate in accordance with those predictions).
Still, this was spot-on:
The key government error is defining the market as a narrow
sector isolated from other sectors that provide reasonable
substitutes.
Mr. Chapman breezily tells me that I can just order my foods online, or else tool on out to the Farmer's Market if I don't like the big chains idea or selection of "organic." Then he gnashes his teeth because some large companies may be denied the convenience of doing business as even larger companies. Do I even need to tell you the size of the violin I am playing for Mr. Chapman's clients here?
People a million times smarter than I am have explained the flaws in the economic justifications for antitrust law (Richard Posner and David Friedman come to mind). In addition, the statutory mandate is so rubbery that antitrust "law" is the opposite of the rule of law -- the crime is almost whatever the enforcer decides it is.
To ensure that free markets operate for the benefit of all,
we are told, the government has to strictly police mergers to keep
any company from gaining an unfair advantage.
I used to buy that BS. Then I did some research. The only real
monopolies that survive any significant length of time are created
by, drumroll please, THE GOVERNMENT. Remember A&P was once the
unstoppable monopolistic juggernaut. Seen one lately?
Because only two satellite broadcast licenses were issued it
makes me go hmmm….., and I will always go hmmmm… However it is
impossible to say exactly what a larger/unlimited amount would have
produced. My prediction: satellite radio goes bust anyway. The real
competition will probably be the ipod or the cell phone. Although
one can only say retrospectively, which is why I find the antitrust
cases I hear about very dubious at best.
The funny thing about Microsoft is that information technology
monopolies could easily be solved with patent reform. No I can't
give details, I don't know or care that much.
As far as the Whole Foods/Wild Oats merger, well that's just a
joke.
JsubD, you may want to use a different example in the
future:
"Over the years, the federal government repeatedly hauled the
A&P into court for abusing its market power. The government
first began to scrutinize the firm in 1915, when Cream of Wheat
refused to sell to the A&P because of its pricing policy. Then
in 1936 came the Robinson-Patman law, which was popularly known as
the "Anti-A&P Act." A year later, the Federal Trade Commission
filed suit against the A&P, charging that the company had
forced a Maryland vegetable packer to grant it a special 4 percent
discount. In November 1942, the Antitrust Division filed a Sherman
Act case against the retailer, one section of which detailed how
the A&P had used "several turns of the screw" to coerce Ralston
Purina into granting it a discount three and a half times what the
cereal packer offered any other firm. Three years after winning
that case, the Justice Department was back in court in September
1949 with another Sherman Act suit, this time asking for the
dismemberment of the A&P. Filed at a time when the grocer was
already clearly in decline-not least because of antitrust
enforcement-the 1949 case was dropped five years later. But this
was only after the A&P admitted guilt, agreed to dissolve an
internal company that traded in agricultural products, and signed
an outright prohibition against "dictating systematically" to
suppliers. The final antitrust case against the A&P was not
resolved until February 1979, a month after a West German grocery
mogul bought control over the remnants of the once-huge firm.
Antitrust enforcement against the A&P and other big firms like
Sears prevented any twentieth-century American retailer from ever
growing nearly as powerful as Wal-Mart is today."
Full scoop:
http://www.harpers.org/archive/2006/07/0081115
The funny thing about Microsoft is that information
technology monopolies could easily be solved with patent reform. No
I can't give details, I don't know or care that much.
Has Microsoft ever enforced a patent in court?
Some people will believe any convenient thing.
Has Microsoft ever enforced a patent in court?
Some people will believe any convenient thing.
I was refering to IT in general, but if you want to read a little
something on MS go
here . If you want more on the general point look up the
Teachnology Liberation Front blog.
Has Microsoft ever enforced a patent in court?
(I honestly don't know the answer.)
JsubD, you may want to use a different example in the
future:
No, maybe I wasn't clear enough. All of the government scrutiny or
persecution had little to do with A&Ps eroding market position.
Do you claim, does anybody other than the FTC clain that the Great
Atlantic and Pacific Tea Company was in a monopolistic position
from 1915 to 1979? The A&P case was probably good job security
for lawyers and government bureaucrats, but nobody else benefitted.
Surely you don't suggest that people had no other chooices than
A&P (or Wal=Mart today)?
If A&P was so dominant for 64 years in the
U.S. grocery business, what the hell did the do with all that
money? They should own Brazil. Or something like that. I don't shop
at Wal-Mart, lots of people do. You can buy disposable diapers and
lawn mowers at lots of places.
Dave
Yeah, I really don't know either. Considering as many as they have
I would put alot of money on it.
"Left to its own devices, many critics of capitalism believe,
the market would allow voracious corporations to collude, joining
forces to hold consumers upside down and shake the nickels out of
their pockets."
Many supporters of capitalism believe this as well.
The only thing I learned about the Sherman Act in Econ 101 was
that one of the first targets was a labor union. This fact was
presented to suggest that it wasn't really about protecting the
little guy from big companies.
I don't know if that fact really gets us very far in examining
antitrust law, but it may serve as an interesting window into what
econ professors think. Or not.
I don't know if that fact really gets us very far in
examining antitrust law, but it may serve as an interesting window
into what econ professors think. Or not.
Well, upon consulting the proper authority (wikipedia!) it looks
like it was used against unions as well as companies, until 1914
anyway. The language used to describe the intention of the Act is
"restraint of trade" not "anti-trust" which was a later
interpretation/application.
But as far as bias in the old Econ 101 goes, I wouldn't doubt it.
Not that I would disagree, but it seems like it would be a hard
thing to prove. An argument to be made at a cocktail party,
preaching to the choir, or something.
Antitrust law is the last refuge of failed market participants.
If you can't beat 'em, sue 'em.
It is completely arbitrary how the government chooses to define a
market. You can buy organic at Krogers.
All of the government scrutiny or persecution had little to
do with A&Ps eroding market position.
Let's be clear about my position here:
1. On another recent thread at HnR, I have admitted that
the scrutiny of Whole Foods and Wild Oats merger is probably
indicative of bigger companies using antitrust law to reduce,
rather than enhance, competition in an oligarchic market. IIRC, I
also pointed out that this was exactly the kind of thing that made
Uncle Miltie flip flop on antitrust law at the mid-point of his
long career.
2. However, I don't think this type of problem means that we have
to scrap antitrust law any more than I believe that Enron and
Worldcom meant that we should scrap the stock market of the
government-created corporate form.
3. I would like to see a political push for better, more
policy-driven enforcement of antitrust law as it is written. It
would help if the rabble came round when a bad merger was being
scrutinized, instead of only showing up on the rare occasions when
a good one was. It would be nice to see Reson hire some
journalists with better objectivity in this area. It would be nice
if some HitnRunners recognized that antitrust is the
perfect remedy for the MPAA and RIAA. And for Microsoft (here's a
hint: stripping them of all their patents wouldn't do a darn
thing).
4. I am open to other remedies against consolidation to displace
current antitrust law. My favorite would be to tax businesses and
to make the tax rate proportional to the degree of consolidation.
This directly incentivizes the government to go after players whose
consolidation has lead to above-free-market profit margins. Because
that is where the money will always be, and because money is what
the politicians always, ultimately want. Also, adjustments to
marginal tax rates is a much more precise tool, than the all or
nothing remedies typical of current antitrust law.
5. JsubD: If you are going to use A&P a an example of a
would-be oligopolist/oligopsosist that was prevented by something
other than antitrust law, then you deserve to give a sophisticated
audience some better explanations than that.
6: joe: Nice one. You really know how a crazee man thinks!
"The language used to describe the intention of the Act is
"restraint of trade" not "anti-trust" which was a later
interpretation/application."
Good point, steveintheknow. The law doesn't say "you can't have a
monopoly." It says "monopolies can't use their market power to
behave in a predatory manner."
Since we've established (sort of) in another thread that there is no free will, can't we just scan everyone at birth for monopolistic tendencies and stop them from running businesses?
joe,
"Good point, steveintheknow. The law doesn't say "you can't have a
monopoly." It says "monopolies can't use their market power to
behave in a predatory manner."
Which says something about Wal-Mart: They may shake out your
nickels, but they leave you your dollars.
can't we just scan everyone at birth for monopolistic
tendencies and stop them from running businesses
I think the law makes a mistake in introducing an intent element
into antitrust law. However, I do think it is possible to figure
out what firms have pricing power, or other forms of market power,
and go after that, regardless of intent.
It is an accident of history that the Sherman Act leans so heavily
on the word "monopoly," and that word should not figure so heavily
into modern discussions. Sort of like how the concept of "well
regulated militias" has changed over time. Sometimes in order to
most sincerely uphold a law, you need to make allowance for the way
word usage has changed over time, and not use these shifts to score
cheap political points.
Which says something about Wal-Mart: They may shake out your
nickels, but they leave you your dollars.
Compared to what: the competition they have now or the competition
they would have in a truly competitive market?
I think it is possible that good would be a lot cheaper still if
the Chinese imports revolution happened in the context of a
competitive retail market. I think America sold its mfgr and
retailing sectors to Wal*Mart for a pittance as far as the manner
in which benefit of Chinese indentured servitude is distributed
through the US population. It may be tough for me to prove that,
but it is equally tough to prove I am wrong.
"I think the law makes a mistake in introducing an intent
element into antitrust law."
I agree - this isn't an issue of evildewers doing evil, any more
than a lion killing guy is evil. It's the nature of corporations to
use whatever is available to strengthen their position. Sometimes,
the actions they take have beneficial effects, such as their
efforts to out-compete their opponents with better products and
lower prices improving our material quality of life. Sometimes, not
so much, such as when Coke and Pepsi threaten to cut off a
supermarket if it dares to provide Polar with too much shelf
space.
dares to provide Polar with too much shelf space.
or, better yet, Boylan's Cane Cola!!!
JsubD: If you are going to use A&P a an example of a
would-be oligopolist/oligopsosist that was prevented by something
other than antitrust law, then you deserve to give a sophisticated
audience some better explanations than that. JsubD: If you are
going to use A&P a an example of a would-be
oligopolist/oligopsosist that was prevented by something other than
antitrust law, then you deserve to give a sophisticated audience
some better explanations than that.
http://www.altfeldinc.com/pdfs/BASICECONOMICS.pdf
Mr Sowell is a fairly well respected economist.
Mr Sowell is a fairly well respected economist.
Funding
The Hoover Institution receives much of its funding from private
charitable foundations, including many attached to large
corporations. A partial list of its recent donors includes:
* Archer Daniels Midland Foundation
* ARCO Foundation
* Boeing-McDonnell Foundation
* Chrysler Corporation Fund
* Dean Witter Foundation
* Exxon Educational Foundation
* Ford Motor Company Fund
* General Motors Foundation
* J.P. Morgan Charitable Trust
* Merrill Lynch & Company Foundation
* Procter & Gamble Fund
* Rockwell International Corporation Trust
* Transamerica Foundation
The Hoover Institution receives much of its funding from
private charitable foundations, including many attached to large
corporations.
So this makes the argument invalid? Hmmm.
Wow. That's a long list of companies who've shown no sign that they support Sowell's economic opinions, and rather a lot that they don't. He's a shitty shill.
Wow. That's a long list of companies who've shown no sign
that they support Sowell's economic opinions, and rather a lot that
they don't. He's a shitty shill.
The smart way to keep people passive and obedient is to strictly
limit the spectrum of acceptable opinion, but allow very lively
debate within that spectrum - even encourage the more critical and
dissident views. That gives people the sense that there's free
thinking going on, while all the time the presuppositions of the
system are being reinforced by the limits put on the range of the
debate.
As far as the Whole Foods/Wild Oats merger, well that's just
a joke.
You know I felt that way too at first. Then I saw some more
info:
The chief executive of Whole Foods Market told his board of
directors the $565 million acquisition of rival Wild Oats Markets
would avoid "nasty price wars" in several markets, according to a
federal court filing unsealed Tuesday.
...
The FTC's court filing quoted parts of an e-mail that John
Mackey, chief executive of Whole Foods, sent his board of
directors. "By buying [Wild Oats] we will ... avoid nasty price
wars in Portland [both Oregon and Maine], Boulder, Nashville, and
several other cities which will harm [Whole Foods'] gross margins
and profitability."
...
Mackey also said in the memo that acquiring the company's chief
competitor would prevent other retailers from scooping up Wild Oats
to get into the profitable organic food business, according to the
court filing.
"Eliminating them means eliminating this threat forever, or almost
forever," his memo said.
Mackey also touted the Whole Foods brand, saying it has "a customer
loyalty that will not be stolen away by conventional markets who
sell the same products."
"Whole Foods isn't primarily about organic foods. It never has
been. Organic food is only one part of its highly successful
business model," Mackey said in the memo.
Originally I thought the government was crazy when they took the
position that conventional grocery stores aren't really competitors
with Whole foods etc, -- but if the head of whole foods doesn't
think they are competition either, how can we blame the
government.
Furthermore, it seems this merger is basically being done to try
and kill competition and avoid lower profit margins that would
result by competitive pricing. The plan is to buy them and close
them to prevent someone else from buying them and possibly
competing with Whole Foods.
Based on Mackey's own comments I believe a good hard look at this
merger should be taken.
I dunno if I think it should be stopped, but it's not as clear cut
as I thought it should be.
Furthermore, it seems this merger is basically being done to
try and kill competition
Two things:
1. If this merger would prevent Wild Oats from merging with an even
larger chain, then it is a merger that enhances competition. If
Kroeger, for instance, buys Wild Oats, in the next of couple years
on the pretext that they are in different markets (so no antitrust
scrutiny), I will be heartily dismayed with what the regulators are
doing now.
2. Even if this particular block of merger reflects sorry
priorities on the part of the regulators, we have probably enetered
an era of such high consolidation that it is always good to block a
merger, regardless.
Furthermore, it seems this merger is basically being done to
try and kill competition
One thing:
1. Shopping at Whole Foods and Wild Oats is a
luxury. Please oh please do not have the
government moderating competition among luxuries.
Not having anti-freeze in your toothpaste and poison in your catfood is a luxury now?
Not having anti-freeze in your toothpaste and poison in your
catfood is a luxury now?
There is pretty much no intrusion into the competitive marketplace
that the government can make that wouldn't be excusable under such
an argument.
we have probably enetered an era of such high consolidation
that it is always good to block a merger, regardless.
Oh, forgive me. You've already gone there...
A sidebar on Homo Economicus...
http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?chanID=sa006&colID=13&articleID=27333871-E7F2-99DF-3A66FD19F6C2AF91
Homo economicus is extinct, felled by the new sciences of
behavioral economics and neuroeconomics, which have demonstrated
that we are remarkably irrational creatures.
There is pretty much no intrusion into the competitive
marketplace that the government can make that wouldn't be excusable
under such an argument.
I am not suggesting that the government make intrusions into
competitive marketplaces. A competitive
marketplace has a multitude of suppliers for each kind of good,
each supplier's good equally accessible to the consumer, no
supplier having any idea about the other suppliers'
prices/policies.
But we are not discussing competitive marketplaces
on this thread. We are discussing actual marketplaces. Which is
what forms the grounds for government "intrusion."
Can the government do a perfect job creating the types of free
market Adam Smith envisioned? No.
Can they do a better job of this task than what happens over the
long run absent government "intrusion"? Yes.
Side bar on choice/branding that mentions Sowell...
http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?articleID=5B90A7E1-E7F2-99DF-3083871CC967A052&chanID=sa006&colID=13
Homo economicus is extinct, felled by the new sciences of
behavioral economics and neuroeconomics, which have demonstrated
that we are remarkably irrational creatures.
From your cited article...
If you are like most people (myself included), you would sell your Google stock and hang on to your Ford stock in hopes of recovering your losses. This would be the wrong strategy.
Uh, I would sell my Ford stock for the tax reasons. If I had no
gains to offset, I might sell them both to zero my tax bill.
Why would you sell shares in a company whose stock is on the rise, and hang on to shares in a company whose stock is on the decline?
The price of the Google stock and the price of the Ford stock
already include the market understanding of the potential
of one to rise and one to fall. Absent tax reasons, they are dollar
for dollar identical stocks to sell.
Why should I listen to this guy?
Oh, right. He offers evidence that humans aren't always rational
about risk-reward decisions. Well, duh. That in no way makes homo
economicus extinct. Only at the extreme edges is economic theory
even concerned with whether individuals acting in their perceived
self interest actually act in their perfectly rational self
interest.
All this:
"The FTC's court filing quoted parts of an e-mail that John Mackey,
chief executive of Whole Foods, sent his board of directors. 'By
buying [Wild Oats] we will ... avoid nasty price wars ... which
will harm [Whole Foods'] gross margins and profitability.'"
makes me want to do is short Whole Foods stock, if that is the
whole of the CEO's thinking. Reads just like the turning point from
creative, agile upstart to staid, lumbering dinosaur. Go ahead,
'lock-in' your profit margin. See how long that lasts.
MikeP
"Why should I listen to this guy?"
Only because he has added a small piece to the empirical
picture...Homo economicus is probably more accurately described as
having evolved rather than having gone extinct.
Just ,imo, an interesting article posted for consumption. Take if
for what it is worth.
Neu Mejican,
Fair enough.
I'm mostly annoyed by Scientific American's further
departure from science towards the implicit goodness of rule by
scientists. If a columnist is going to say something as loaded and
unqualified as, "Homo economicus is extinct," he should at least
know something about economics.
I agree - this isn't an issue of evildewers doing evil, any
more than a lion killing guy is evil. It's the nature of
corporations to use whatever is available to strengthen their
position. Sometimes, the actions they take have beneficial effects,
such as their efforts to out-compete their opponents with better
products and lower prices improving our material quality of life.
Sometimes, not so much, such as when Coke and Pepsi threaten to cut
off a supermarket if it dares to provide Polar with too much shelf
space.
Is it wrong for a wife to demand fidelity of her husband? And if a
similar agreement takes place between two companies, what is wrong
with that--whose rights have they violated? Don't give me that
sillyness about restricting the market: first of all, it's
beverages; second of all, if it wasn't a popular product, then it
wouldn't be carried; and third, if there are no legal barriers to
entry then there is no way to avoid competition.
Here's an article on
just how silly antitrust laws are:
And for those interested, here's a book that calls for total
repeal of antitrust laws.
And for those interested, here's a book that calls for total
repeal of antitrust laws.
Errr, link didn't work:
http://www.mises.org/books/antitrust.pdf
A Whole Foods takeover of Wild Oats may limit competition
temporarily, as would a Wild Oats bankruptcy.
The free market analysis says that is such a situation, new firms
would arise, or existing firms would expand their business lines to
provide competition in the long run.
There are two other factors that limit potential new competition.
The role of the Federal Trade Commission in "protecting
competition" might lead them to prevent some existing large firms
from moving into natural foods retailing - that is how enigmatic
the FTC concept of competition is.
At the same time, Community Redevelopment programs subsidize
favored firms in real estate acquisition, and create an artificial
shortage of available commercial real estate.
There is evidence that Whole Foods Market has taken advantage of
Community Redevelopment programs in Austin, and presumably in other
cities. And the shortage of available commercial real estate is
another reason for Whole Foods to want to buy out a competiting
company which has leases in many urban markets.
Dave W. says: "Compared to what: the competition (WalMart has)
now or the competition they would have in a truly competitive
market?"
The people running WalMart must be astonished daily to think that
some people actually think that WalMart isn't subject to brutal,
unrelenting competitive pressures -- the same WalMart that grew
from a single little shoestring store into the behemoth it is now
by going head to head against relentless competitors who are poised
to take back market share at the slightest slipup. Seriously, which
part of Sears / KMart / Target / Best Buys / Circuit City / Costco
/ Safeway / every other grocer and retailer on the planet don't you
get?
People a million times smarter than I am have explained the
flaws in the economic justifications for antitrust law
The economic justification is for the dumb masses. The truth is
somewhere else.
Look at how big international corporations can get. They can get as
big as a government. What does the government do when the
corporation gets up one morning and says "I don't feel like
following your laws anymore."?
Anti-trust laws are a club, for just in case.
Anti-trust laws are a club, for just in case.
Any company with that much power is probably paying the government
to use the club on its behalf...
Any company with that much power is probably paying the
government to use the club on its behalf...
If company's that big really can run the government, then better to
have them spend their political capital on antitrust enforcement
than by having the government start a war, contract for an
unneccessary expenditure, give a subsidy, give a special tax break,
etc., etc.
As far as pernicious influence over government by big business,
antitrust enforcement is about the least pernicious possibility,
both because the targets can defend themselves somewhat (better
than rank and file taxpayers anyway), and it is at least a
transparent sort of help (rather than a pork provision deep in some
spending bill). really, if the problem is that big business is
buying government, then that is the problem that needs to be solved
on its own terms, rather than blaming antitrust law.
Look at how big international corporations can get. They can
get as big as a government. What does the government do when the
corporation gets up one morning and says "I don't feel like
following your laws anymore."?
Anti-trust laws are a club, for just in case.
The state doesn't need antitrust laws for that. It can just do what
Mexico did back in the day -- "OK, Senor Capitalist, all your oil
fields now belong to us."
Unless a corporation becomes a government -- thereby
usurping the government's monopoly on force -- it can't ignore the
law indefinitely. All it can do is get the government to change or
selectively enforce the law in its favor.
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