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Ron Paul on The Colbert Report
Say what you will about Colbert's political acumen: he asks
probably the best "Yes or no? Raise your hand" question of the
entire campaign. Watch and learn, Wolf Blitzer.
Here's video of the crowd outside the studio when Paul arrived.
|6.14.07 @ 9:13AM|#
I was surprised at the cheers he got from the generally liberal crowd. I notice they got quieter when it got to abolishing the department of education and all that, but for the most part, they were pretty receptive.
|6.14.07 @ 9:17AM|#
.. I thought that he held up very well .. didn't think that
UNICEF was a US-run organization, tho!!
.. go Ron Paul!!
.. Hobbit
|6.14.07 @ 9:26AM|#
What, there aren't just two political philosophies in this
country? I'm so confused. Help me, please!
I might just have to send Paul more money. Even if he doesn't do
well in the primaries, it would be lovely if he could maintain a
presence all the way through. And I think he just might surprise
some people.
|6.14.07 @ 9:28AM|#
I thought Ron did great dealing with Colbert--he got into playing the crowd, and understands Colbert's shtick. It was actually fun to watch, and I was worried it would be embarrassing. Good for him. Doubt he'll get anywhere in the long run, but it was good to have him out there on mainstream TV.
|6.14.07 @ 9:38AM|#
Not quite as good as his "Daily Show" performance (he was
unstoppable there) but still pretty good. He did manage to meet the
holy trinity requirements:
a) not creepy
b) not kooky
c) on message
|6.14.07 @ 9:40AM|#
Geoff -
I totally agree. He seemed to "get it," unlike many of Colbert's
other guests. Paul didn't even take a tone with him like "I wish
you'd let me be serious, and I'm going to try my darnedest to make
this sound like a CNN interview because this is my only TV
interview ever."
Fluffy|6.14.07 @ 9:43AM|#
"a) not creepy
b) not kooky"
Nor was he mysterious and spooky, nor altogether ooky.
Fluffy|6.14.07 @ 9:49AM|#
The most Gomez-Adamsish candidate is clearly Giuliani, so I
suspect that Pro Libertate has drunk the Dondero Kool Aid.
Actually, there's a great Youtube video waiting to be made using
the theme music from the Adams Family and clips of Giuliani's
debate appearances.
|6.14.07 @ 9:51AM|#
Wait, why was Ron Paul on "The Colbert Report"? I thought Edvard had already deemed him unacceptable as candidate?!
|6.14.07 @ 9:59AM|#
I was surprised at the cheers he got from the generally
liberal crowd.
You shouldn't be. The Comedy Central crowd will applaud any
anti-bush thing anybody says. Being well received by the loopy-left
actually hurts him amongst GOP primary voters.
|6.14.07 @ 10:07AM|#
You shouldn't be. The Comedy Central crowd will applaud any
anti-bush thing anybody says. Being well received by the loopy-left
actually hurts him amongst GOP primary voters.
Although I feel like a good amount of youthful "conservatives"
watch the Colbert Report as well, as its comic appeal is very
similar to that of Family Guy in that it's constantly making fun of
crazy conservatives. Those young conservatives are also the ones
that are more likely to put signs in their windows and on their
cars, use the internet, and pay attention to this process in the
early stages. They are, unfortunately, less likely than their older
counterparts to donate money.
highnumber|6.14.07 @ 10:16AM|#
I think some of you confuse a young crowd with a liberal crowd.
They tend to be anti-war, anti-WoD, and anti-oppression, but apart
from that are open to ideas. They haven't all settled into
political ideologies yet.
It's great that Ron Paul is courting the youngsters. Smart move. He
can build some support from them, some from libertarians, and now
he needs to get the folks who are jaded about the parties
interested in his campaign. Somebody email him a strategy for
that.
|6.14.07 @ 10:21AM|#
At this stage for Paul, still any publicity is better than no
publicity.
Hey maybe he will convert some of the loopy left to libertarian
thought. It makes me feel better for the future of this country if
some of those loopy left youngin's are becoming libertarian because
of Paul.
Jim Henley|6.14.07 @ 10:21AM|#
I was pleasantly surprised that Paul was *awesom* in that segment. Just the right level of good-natured self-irony that America in its wisdom requires. He's really gotten better at presenting himself.
|6.14.07 @ 10:22AM|#
So does Paul think UNICEF is a government agency that he can abolish or does he just mean he wants the government to stop giving money to it?
|6.14.07 @ 10:24AM|#
It's funny to still see people who equate dislike of Bush with
mental illness.
That guy's looney!
How looney is he?
He's so looney that he doesn't like George Bush!
jac|6.14.07 @ 10:30AM|#
He seems to answer questions directly and not give the closest
answer he has in his stock.
It's kind of refreshing.
pdog|6.14.07 @ 10:31AM|#
I enjoy watching the colbert report and jon stewart, and I'm pretty libertarian. Wouldn't be surprised if there were more out there like me.
highnumber|6.14.07 @ 10:35AM|#
I forgot to add that I thought Ron Paul was fantastic. The hand-raising bit was great, even the part at the end about UNICEF. He seemed much more comfortable than he had with Stewart.
SPD|6.14.07 @ 10:38AM|#
I'm with pdog on this one. I just enjoy any program that skewers the pretense and somber tone of CNN/Fox as well as the hardcore liberals/conservatives. Extremists can switch over to Real Time with Bill Maher or Red Eye if they feel their worldview isn't properly represented in a humorous context.
|6.14.07 @ 10:46AM|#
The other thing to remember is that this horse race is a
marathon (or whatever distance is longest for thoroughbreds). We
are still what, half a year away from the first primary vote?
Ron Paul is right where he needs to be at this stage. Just getting
name recognition.
Scooby|6.14.07 @ 10:48AM|#
JasonC-
RP didn't include UNICEF on a list of US Federal gov't agencies to
be abolished, Colbert did (along with the rest of the UN, NATO,
NAFTA and the WTO).
Do you think RP was right to play along and imply that he would
work to end US Federal Gov't involvement in those organizations, or
should he have pedantically explained that those aren't "agencies"
of the federal gov't and can't be abolished at the whim of the
president (and NAFTA isn't even an organization to be abolished
and/ or abandoned- it's a trade treaty)?
|6.14.07 @ 10:48AM|#
They are, unfortunately, less likely than their older
counterparts to donate money.
Or vote.
dhex|6.14.07 @ 10:57AM|#
whomever is coaching paul is doing a hell of a fucking job
because he seems real comfortable even with colbert's spastic
schitck.
also, as an orthodox situationist discordian from new jersey, the
only show that accurately reflects the humor of my value system is
the state of the union address. imagine how i feel,
conservatarians!
|6.14.07 @ 11:08AM|#
the only show that accurately reflects the humor of my value
system is the state of the union address
I look forward to that every year. It's always one of my top 10
drunkest moments of the year :)
Highway|6.14.07 @ 11:18AM|#
It does seem like he improves with every one of these
appearances, and it's good to see that looks itthere's actually a
politician who's capable of learning something from past
experience. Yeah, he's getting a bit more cooperation from the
hosts of these shows than he was in the beginning, but he's also
learning how to deal with being asked these questions, from both
sides, that are basically 'why do you want to get rid of this
program / department that we like?"
He's also doing a very good job, much better than when the
campaigning started, of not being the 'stodgy old guy', even though
he tends to look the part. But when he starts talking, and he's
really animated himself with this, you get a much better vibe of
vitality.
It will be interesting to see how this race continues to
develop.
libertreee|6.14.07 @ 11:23AM|#
Ron's strategy appears to be to downplay attacking social
welfare programs in order to better court the left. He seems to be
saying that although he disagrees with Medicare and other
entitlements, if elected he would not spend political capital
seriously going after it. He has nice words for Dennis
Kucinich.
He would concentrate on smashing the military industrial complex
and ending our policy of foreign interventions as well as the
burgeoning police state.
There is only so much a President can do. This strategy may work if
he is to broaden his base with independents and liberals.
highnumber|6.14.07 @ 11:32AM|#
If my
experience with linking Comedy Central videos hosted on YouTube
is any kind of evidence, be prepared for fricking short-sighted
Viacom to pull the video.
Maybe they treat the candidates appearances differently.
|6.14.07 @ 11:36AM|#
highnumber,
Oh, that's why you cursed Viacom. Yeah, that sucks. Now people will
read the comments and think that we're batshit insane.
At least we still have our secret hoard of tequila.
Dave W.|6.14.07 @ 11:48AM|#
Ron's strategy appears to be to downplay attacking social
welfare programs in order to better court the left. He seems to be
saying that although he disagrees with Medicare and other
entitlements, if elected he would not spend political capital
seriously going after it.
I see him as saying that he would attack social spending in tandem
with attacking defense spending, which is a strategy I have
advocated here at HnR for a long time. That is what makes
him so shocking (or, to some, crazee) is that he can be against the
Dep't of Education and the military contractors at the same time.
Traditionally, for most people you can be against one or the other,
but not both. he is breaking that rule, and it is quite
liberating.
It was nice that he threw in the jab at the WTO, too. That is a
whole 'nother set of vested interests that needs to be taken down
in tandem with social spending and defense.
Minarchists will have a tough decision to make on this guy.
Pro-Israel libertarians, too.
highnumber|6.14.07 @ 11:54AM|#
Secret hoard of tequila?!
I was not told about this. Where is the secret hoard of tequila? I
need to...check on it...make sure that it is...secure.
SPD, I ♥ U!
|6.14.07 @ 11:56AM|#
WRT to the UNICEF stuff.
Hey people, the question wasn't "if elected president, which of the
following will you try to abolish?" It was "raise your hand if
you'd like to abolish...."
As somebody with an opinion, even I can like to abolish an agency,
it doesn't matter if I have any power to do it.
|6.14.07 @ 11:58AM|#
Also, I thought it would have been funny if he had thrown in the Ayn Rand Institute in that list.
|6.14.07 @ 12:02PM|#
highnumber,
In the Trollcave, natch. But don't drink it. Once we have enough
tequila, we will use it to make the earth into a paradise. Tequila
from the skies. . . .
|6.14.07 @ 12:03PM|#
Yay! I'm on an internet video! sadly, now my 15 minutes are
up.
I went to the taping to try to get standby tickets, and there were
tons of people there with banners and signs - it was a lot of
different little interest groups, but they were all there to
support Ron Paul! also, one of the women there was Judah Bauer's
girlfriend, and there may be a Ron Paul Blues Explosion benefit
concert in the works.
DA|6.14.07 @ 12:07PM|#
Good performance by Paul, and covered a lot of bases (including
a good, quick swipe at the War on Drugs).
BTW, am I the only one who thinks Paul looks a lot like Martin
Crane (from the Frasier sitcom)?
highnumber|6.14.07 @ 12:09PM|#
DA,
You're probably the only person who refers to John Mahoney as
"Martin Crane."
|6.14.07 @ 12:17PM|#
"You shouldn't be. The Comedy Central crowd will applaud any
anti-bush thing anybody says. Being well received by the loopy-left
actually hurts him amongst GOP primary voters."
What about some liberals who get stoked on Paul and switch over to
the Republican primaries to vote for him.
thoreau|6.14.07 @ 12:19PM|#
Never underestimate the juggernaut that is the Colbert
Nation!
Speaking truthiness to power since 2005!
|6.14.07 @ 12:22PM|#
If anyone had the power to warp the results of an online poll, it would be Colbert.
|6.14.07 @ 12:23PM|#
"It's funny to still see people who equate dislike of Bush with
mental illness. That guy's looney! How looney is he? He's so looney
that he doesn't like George Bush!" - joe
I think it's funny to see joe try to equate visceral, rabid, purely
subjective emotional dislike of a politician based on purely
partisan motives with cerebral, calm, rational, purely objective
concern for their politics and political decisions. I'm reminded of
the Bush v. Gore debates and the "is there anything you two
disagree on?" vibe it had. I'm also reminded of how unfairly
Clinton was (and is) treated by joe's right-wing opposite numbers.
I guess it's a reap what you sow effect - the Dem President got hit
by blind hate that had very little (almost nothing) to do with
reasonable criticism of decisions and policies, so now it's the Rep
President's turn.
I think it's all just one big tu quoque fallacy conspiracy designed
to keep the animosity up and keep people at each other's
throats.
Momement of clarity: joe is really good at being one of the people
who keep that animosity up, and he's really good at being one of
the people who thoroughly enjoys going at other people's
throats.
|6.14.07 @ 12:26PM|#
I am definitely a libertarian Daily Show/Colbert fan, simply
because I am riddled with delight when I see people tear apart
politicians and the media for their blatant stupidity.
Example: Monday's Daily Show had a segment showing CNN cut away
from coverage of Peter Pace's ousting to cover Paris Hilton
going to jail!
highnumber|6.14.07 @ 12:31PM|#
Fluffy,
I almost wrote "You're probably the only person who refers to
Frasier's dad as "Martin Crane," but the guy lives in my town, so
I'd feel like a bad neighbor if I don't use his real name.
He's taller than you'd think. Not that he's tall, but just like
you'd think Teller is only 5'4" by the perspective you get, it's
surprising to see that these guys are actually average height.
|6.14.07 @ 12:32PM|#
The best way to get Ron Paul elected is to educate people about
the other candidates. Most of the other candidates are backed by
the money of David Rockefeller in one way or another, and that
money is being spent for the purpose of pushing forward the agenda
for One World Government, which will greatly benefit international
corporations.
Let the people know which candidates belong to the Council on
Foreign Relations, which advocates One World Government --
Fred Thompson (member of the pro-war American Enterprise
Institute)
Rudy Giuliani
John McCain
Mitt Romney
Jim Gilmore
Newt Gingrich
Hillary Clinton
Barack Obama
John Edwards
Joe Biden
Chris Dodd
Bill Richardson
|6.14.07 @ 12:41PM|#
He's so looney that he doesn't like George Bush!
joe, I think the people who think RP is looney do so because of his
positions on things like the Fed, the UN etc. You know, just
another rightwing whackaloon. Like the way Maher ambushed him with
the Civil War thing.
Somehow though he's now sending a message that resonates with a lot
of people. Now he seems a lot more sensible to a lot more
people.
|6.14.07 @ 12:42PM|#
Christ, YouTube videos are annoying. I don't know about the rest
of you, but I almost never get a full video to load. I usually get
about 90 seconds and nothing more. If I delete the browser cache
and reload the video I get about the same amount of video on the
next try. Worthless.
At least what little I saw of Ron Paul looked good.
Scooby|6.14.07 @ 1:03PM|#
Arrgggh... it's the truthers and "the joos and the Fed want to
enslave us" and Anti-CFR/Bilderburg/NWO guys that give plenty of
"Paul is a nutter" ammo to the guys on that list.
Can't you guys go campaign for LaRouche or some blue-skinned LP
candidate, like you used to?
SPD|6.14.07 @ 1:32PM|#
"So which poster on Hit-n-Run is really Ron Paul?"
(raises hand, keeps it raised)
|6.14.07 @ 1:56PM|#
Does anyone else think that Ron Paul is freaked out by all his support? He looked a little overwhelmed in that other video.
|6.14.07 @ 2:03PM|#
I am already proudly sporting a "Ron Paul for President'08" bumper sticker on my car.
|6.14.07 @ 2:05PM|#
"I am already proudly sporting a "Ron Paul for President'08"
bumper sticker on my car."
So am I.
libertreee|6.14.07 @ 2:32PM|#
Dave W-
see him as saying that he would attack social spending in tandem
with attacking defense spending, which is a strategy I have
advocated here at HnR for a long time.
Ron lowered his hand when talking about the liberal departments
like education and I think H&HS. He raised it high for the pro
war departments, the IRS, and UN, NATO, etc.
He said specifically that " I think we can do better, but It is not
high on my list to go after" when discussing social welfare
programs, and has conceded in other interviews that "we have made
many Americans dependent on the government, and I won't go after
them while they are."
Of course, as this campaign goes on, he will have to clarify these
statements.
|6.14.07 @ 3:00PM|#
OK, that was an excellent bit. To my very pleasant surprise, the man seems to be thriving and improving under national media attention.
|6.14.07 @ 3:43PM|#
"I was surprised at the cheers he got from the generally liberal
crowd. I notice they got quieter when it got to abolishing the
department of education and all that, but for the most part, they
were pretty receptive."
Not at all surprising to me. The diehard liberals that mostly
compose Colbert's audience BEHAVE like libertarians on some
non-economic points -- the war in Iraq, defense of civil freedoms
-- though often for very unlibertarian reasons. Many would, for
example, like to get us out of Iraq, so we could send the troops to
Darfur instead. And many they say they're against our country's
imperialism, but support reinstating the draft because it's
"fairer" to force the kids of wealthy individuals to fight. And of
course, that audience despises Bush.
Very good showing by Ron Paul, I thought.
|6.14.07 @ 3:55PM|#
FJR says: "Hey people, the question wasn't "if elected
president, which of the following will you try to abolish?" It was
"raise your hand if you'd like to abolish...."
As somebody with an opinion, even I can like to abolish an agency,
it doesn't matter if I have any power to do it."
A presidential veto of spending (and you can bet Ron Paul would run
dry the ink in his stock of veto pens) means the money can't be
spent unless 2/3 of both houses of Congress override the veto. It's
hard to get 2/3 of Congress to agree to anything, so those vetoes
would kill a lot of spending. And, Congress can't force the
President to appoint someone to head an agency. It doesn't matter
if you still have the agency existing on paper if it has zero
funding and no one in charge of running it.
Not that I think Ron Paul has a snowball's chance in hell of
getting elected president. A tiny outside chance of becoming VP
...
Ashish George|6.14.07 @ 3:56PM|#
"And many they say they're against our country's imperialism,
but support reinstating the draft because it's 'fairer' to force
the kids of wealthy individuals to fight."
Right, because if there's one thing 18-24 year-olds really get
passionate about, it's joining some of their peers in a war they
don't believe in.
GoRonPaul|6.14.07 @ 4:13PM|#
A great interview by Paul. This is my favorite review: http://thecrossedpond.com/?p=785
|6.14.07 @ 4:26PM|#
Ashish George -- You're right. My bad. I confused the older
liberals who wouldn't be subject to the draft (or at least the
older liberal politicians who get the few votes cast by younger
liberals) with the actual younger liberals who mostly compose
Colbert's studio audience. I suspect, though, that the folks in
Colbert's audience would overwhelmingly support an ultraliberal
politician who advocated reinstating the draft over a
Bush-supporting conservative Republican -- they'd overlook the
draft thing because it seems so unlikely to get enacted.
I think the Iraq war is driving a lot of conservative-leaning folks
out of the Republican party and into a more libertarian mode, while
in the 60s and 70s the Vietnam War drove a lot of liberals out of
the Democratic party and into a more libertarian mode.
|6.14.07 @ 4:49PM|#
"""If my experience with linking Comedy Central videos hosted on
YouTube is any kind of evidence, be prepared for fricking
short-sighted Viacom to pull the video.
Maybe they treat the candidates appearances differently.""""
The video should be available at the Corbert Report website if that
happens.
|6.14.07 @ 4:49PM|#
"A tiny outside chance of becoming VP ..."
Which of the warmonger Republican candidates would pick him as
their running mate?
Fluffy|6.14.07 @ 4:54PM|#
Apparently on Tucker a few minutes ago Paul said that the
problem with Giuliani is that he's such an "authoritarian".
I wonder what Dondero thought of that.
|6.14.07 @ 4:56PM|#
"He said specifically that " I think we can do better, but It is
not high on my list to go after" when discussing social welfare
programs, and has conceded in other interviews that "we have made
many Americans dependent on the government, and I won't go after
them while they are."
Ed Clark told me if he were President, he wouldn't end welfare all
at once. It would hurt too many people who depend on it. He would
gradually phase it out. I'm sure that's Ron Paul's position
also.
Tom Walls|6.14.07 @ 6:34PM|#
Here's a little ditty I wrote... it's constantly changing.
Remember, it's all in fun - and partially builds on
stereotypes people have of libertarians.
Ron Paul for President
What he says is what he means
Ron Paul for President
He'll sweep this country clean
He'll kick out the old UN
And keep us out of wars
The income tax will see an end
And we'll legalize drugs and whores
With Walter Williams as his running mate
We'll get back our fair share
And with old Rockwell at Department of State
We can thumb our nose at world affairs
No more bailouts of the banks
He'll give your tax money back to you
So you can buy a Sherman tank
Or build a castle too
Ron Paul for President
He's real nice, not mean
Ron Paul for President
He'll swee-eep this count-ry clean!
|6.14.07 @ 7:12PM|#
I thought it was Ron Paul's best TV appearance yet. I hope he wins the primary and then loses by a hair to NateIn'08.
|6.14.07 @ 7:30PM|#
"I think it's funny to see joe try to equate visceral, rabid,
purely subjective emotional dislike of a politician based on purely
partisan motives with cerebral, calm, rational, purely objective
concern for their politics and political decisions."
I think it's funny to see rob still dismissing dislike of George
Bush as "visceral, rabid," and "purely subjective."
Joe Schembrie|6.14.07 @ 8:19PM|#
I donated fifty dollars to Ron Paul's campaign this week. My
goal is to donate $50 a month while he's in the race.
I figure that even if only 100,000 libertarians do the same, that's
$5,000,000 a month. Which is like Godzilla in campaign
spending.
Come on people, this may be our only chance! Can't you afford the
cost of half a latte a day for life, the universe, and -- ahem! --
your freedom?
highnumber|6.14.07 @ 8:20PM|#
TrickyVic,
But I just want to see the 0:49 clip with Samantha Bee telling some
lady what a taint is!
|6.14.07 @ 8:45PM|#
Rattlesnake says: "'A tiny outside chance of becoming VP
...'
Which of the warmonger Republican candidates would pick him as
their running mate?"
If Ron Paul gets to 10% or so, ALL the frontrunners would start
doing the political calculus, knowing full well that many of Ron
Paul's supporters won't vote for them unless Ron Paul is on the
ticket as VP, whereas the Fred McRomliani Republican base is
unlikely to defect to a Democrat. The frontrunners are bastards,
but they're bastards who understand political reality. Right now
they feel they can give libertarian ideas short shrift because
there just aren't enough libertarians to hold the balance of
power.
|6.15.07 @ 12:20AM|#
Just watch, Ron Paul's campaign will be anouncing pretty soon
that his donations have increased significantly which will put him
in the same league with the other front runners.
Don't count him out this is just starting!
Bee|6.15.07 @ 12:50AM|#
If YOU were a Republican front-runner pondering Ron Paul as a
running mate, you might worry rather seriously about his base of
passionate 2nd Amendment supporters.
Which is all as it should be.
Eric Dondero|6.15.07 @ 12:03PM|#
Funny Ron Paul views Giuliani as an "Authoritarian," yet it is Giuliani that wishes to allow women to decide for themselves whether or not to have an abortion, yet Ron Paul wishes to have government make that decision for them.
|6.15.07 @ 1:23PM|#
The venom joe can generate on the subject of Bush is often
clearly visceral, rabid, and purely subjective. Granted, he also
complains about actual policies and decisions, though, so that's a
step up from many of the "Chimpy McBusHitler" types.
It's not that intelligent people can't have issues with the
decisions of the Bush administration. I like to think I'm a fairly
smart guy, and there's plenty of bad decisions I don't like from
the current administration.
It's just funny to watch people claim that their comments are based
on objective, rational objections to those decisions while they're
spouting insults that would be at home on an elementary school
playground. (The same thing for people who make Monica Lewinsky
jokes about Clinton and pretending they're making political
arguments.)
Estrella Eguino|6.15.07 @ 6:15PM|#
Both Ron Paul and Stephen Colbert were at their best! I have watched Stephen Colbert make minced meat out of some of his guests and I noticed he treated Ron with plenty of respect and at the same time he kept the humor up. The raised hand question segment was very funny. It was good to see Ron Paul in the mainstream media because it is so obvious that there's a plan to keep him out. I'm sure that he won't win because the people of the U.S. no longer have a say in the matter. Electrical voting machines mean fraud and Rupert Murdoch is backing Hillary Clinton via media support. The Republican opponents will turn out to be easy targets against Hillary: Giuliani, because he will be stirring the crowds yelling "Nine-Eleven" a-la-Lois-Griffin; McCain is the most insane of the candidates as I will never forget his tantrums after losing the South Carolina primary to Bush; Romney - super weak against Hillary. But it was good to watch Ron Paul speak out. Down with the illegal IRS! Alex Jones is the one that should run for preZ
|6.16.07 @ 12:41AM|#
The Ron Paul Blues Explosion. Now I've heard it all.
I'm comin' to join ya, honey.
|6.16.07 @ 4:49PM|#
Here is the Comedy Central link
http://www.comedycentral.com/shows/the_colbert_report/videos/celebrity_interviews/index.jhtml
|6.17.07 @ 9:38AM|#
"So does Paul think UNICEF is a government agency that he can
abolish or does he just mean he wants the government to stop giving
money to it?"
Jason, he wants the U.S. to get out of it. Reagan got us out; Bush
got us back IN. That's where "No Child Left Behind" comes from.
Research it; it's not good.
|6.17.07 @ 9:43AM|#
"Funny Ron Paul views Giuliani as an "Authoritarian," yet it is
Giuliani that wishes to allow women to decide for themselves
whether or not to have an abortion, yet Ron Paul wishes to have
government make that decision for them."
Actually Eric, that's not true. He believes that it is none of the
federal government's business to dictate whether abortion is, or
isn't legal. His stance is a Constitutional one; in that
Constitutionally, this decision is to be left up to the states.
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