David Weigel | May 15, 2007
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Ralph Z. Hallow reveals that Mike Bloomberg might spend $1
billion for an independent presidential bid, and Garance Franke-Ruta (make sure you're
21 before reading her punditry) sees the bright side.
A Bloomberg entry would raise the specter of an unprecedented all New Yorker race, if Hillary Clinton and Rudy Giuliani win their primaries, as well as the effective obliteration of campaign finance laws as we know them.
Like I wrote last month, our campaign finance laws are already imploding because the two parties' frontrunners are opting out of the public financing system. A Bloomberg run doesn't really change that. But the "billionaire buys White House" scenario is the fantasy behind a lot of CFR, and a Bloomberg campaign would destroy that fantasy. It would be Croeses II: a super-confident tycoon will dump his fortune into the campaign and... come in a poor third to the candidates he just outspent by two to one. The "keep money out of politics!" crowd will have to explain that and justify the laws preventing the free flow of political money, and they won't be able to.
Either that or the Democrats and Republicans say "never again!" and pass a law forbidding candidates to fund their own campaigns.
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The "keep money out of politics!" crowd will have to explain
that and justify the laws preventing the free flow of political
money, and they won't be able to.
Ha! Caught you! I'm getting a feel for the Weigel dry wit. Nobody
is that naive.
The notion that the rich have the oval office on speed dial, and
that enough regulation will change that, has no basis in reality.
Therefore there's really nothing that will stop people from
believing it.
I was thinking, wow, cool upside to Bloomberg campaign, then I got to the end of your post, Mr Weigel. You are a hateful man, aren't you? Why must you be so cruel?
Actually, I see the "billionaire buys the White House" scenario rarely. The problem most CFR, from the post-Watergate laws to McCain-Feingold, is aimed at addressing is the time and consideration candidates and officeholders give to donors.
New
Yorkers prefer Bloomberg to Giuliani for president.
There is a perception that the poor have fared better under
Bloomberg (at least he seems sad when cops unload on unarmed
bachelors) than Giuliani, and many of the "rich" currently in New
York aren't the kind that earned their loot so much as daddy sends
them a huge check every month. Also, Rudy is famous for his
"courage" during 9/11, but I think a lot of America mistakes merely
being present in NYC in the aftermath for courage. People who live
in NYC and had to get on with their lives, me included, don't
really see walking around the rubble as something that should be
rewarded with the presidency. Don't get me wrong, Bloomberg is
popular because he hasn't really screwed up what Giuliani put in
place. Giuliani was the take-charge authoritarian who should get
most of the credit for making NYC governable and safe for
$8,000/month apartments.
What has Bloomberg done? If he's such a great CEO, what's with the
MTA?
Bloomberg is a good politician. He knows how to work the media
and maintain his reputation. Giuliani's a tough guy and that's his
only shtick.
Plus, the cops haven't been gunning down unarmed innocents so
frequently on Bloomberg's watch. That sort of thing affects your
popularity among the people who actually live there.
I'd rather have Bloomberg than Giuliani myself. In fact, Bloomberg
compares favorably to McCain, Obama, and Clinton. That's not saying
much, but what else is new?
For what it's worth, John Podhoretz over at The Corner deemed
this "The Silly Story of the Day.":
"Look, there's a reason Michael Bloomberg is the richest man in New
York. It's because he's not the type to blow a billion dollars on a
fantasy. When he spent $76 million to win the mayoralty and another
comparable amount to get reelected, he did so with a very specific
and workable game plan for the money. Here he would just be
lighting a match to the cash.
When Ross Perot ran in 1992, he had two very specific aims in mind:
He wanted to talk about the budget deficit, and he wanted to screw
George Bush the Elder, who he had convinced himself had done
something to disrupt his daughter's wedding. He had nothing of
moment to say about the budget deficit except that it was bad, and
he quit the race when he thought Clinton had it in the bag, only to
reenter it when Clinton appeared to stumble a bit in
September.
Bloomberg has no such passion driving him. He has very little
passion at all, which is why he has been a workmanlike mayor of New
York City who has succeeded because he kept in place the policies
of his predecessor.
Why can't Bloomberg win? First, because independents can't win.
Second, because he's a Jew.Third, because he's too short. Fourth,
becasue he's way, way, way too rich. Fifth, because, I mean, come
on. Sixth, because, I mean, really."
Jonah Goldberg (and I) disagree with the "Jew" part, but otherwise,
that sounds right.
A Bloomberg entry would raise the specter of an
unprecedented all New Yorker race, if Hillary Clinton and Rudy
Giuliani win their primaries, as well as the effective obliteration
of campaign finance laws as we know them.
There's your dark cloud and your silver lining, all in one
sentence.
I completely forgot that Perot ran in 96. I'm guessing he was bored. Wikipedia says he got 8% of the popular vote in 96, down from 19% in 92.
The thing about a Bloomberg campaign is that even though there is currently an R after his name he is really a center left Democrat. Most of his votes would probably come from the Democrat's nominee. So the question is does he want to be Perot to Hillary?
Nobody wants to see the bar rise so high that it takes a billion dollars to win (or lose) an election. But what WOULD be interesting is to see what a campaign looks like (in the case of Bloomberg) when the candidate can say and do what he really thinks and believes in because he doesn't have to raise a single dime from anyone at all.
Bloomburg is the nanny stater from hell. The fact that he is
Jewish and a New Yorker and pretty liberal would pretty much make
him dead on arrival with evangelicals. I bet he would do well with
suburban soccer mom busybodies who can't quite stomach voting for
Hillary. I think a Bloomburg independent campaign would be bad news
for Democrats.
As far as an all New Yorker campaign, we have had sixteen straight
years of good old boy southerners in the Whitehouse. Yeah, I know
Bush wasn't born there but he spent his entire adult life in Texas
and does his best to present a Texas persona. I am frankly tired of
it. Why not give someone else a chance? Whehter that be a New
Yorker or a midwesterner makes no difference to me. But, we have
had enough of Southern neurosis for a while.
I've seen Bloomberg/Hegel or Hegel/Bloomberg thrown out. They couldn't be more different, except on the Iraq War, but I guess that's enough these days.
Shocked, shocked I am to see Reason commenters repeating the
right-wing talking-point that Perot cost Bush the election.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rj-eskow/dick-morris-whoop-dat-t_b_8601.html
"Polls showed the Perot vote split 50/50 for HW Bush and Clinton in
both 1992 and 1996. In 1992, Clinton won by 6 points over Bush I,
so it would most likely not have made a difference had Perot not
been there. Clinton also won by 370-168 in the electoral
college.
"
Why, you confounded leach, I'll teach you to link to
Huffingtonpost.crap, you little swindler!!
BOOM! POW! You rascal....CRASH! BANG!
Either that or the Democrats and Republicans say "never
again!" and pass a law forbidding candidates to fund their own
campaigns.
Yeah, heaven forbid a grassroots uprising mucks up the natural
course of democracy.
"suburban soccer mom busybodies who can't quite stomach voting
for Hillary" -John
We'll see. I predict that frustration over EVERYTHING will lead
many a woman, in the privacy of the voting booth, to cast a WTF
vote for Hillary.
"What has Bloomberg done? If he's such a great CEO, what's with
the MTA?"
to be fair, you can't blame the MTA on him. it's like a force of
nature that totally sucks.
The mayor has little power over the MTA: the board is appointed by the governor. Being a regional agency, it has members from all over the metropolitan area.
Rhywun: I think the Mayor appoints 4 or 5 of those members. More
importantly, I really wasn't talking about reforming the MTA by
fiat. Perhaps I should have been a bit more longwinded. If he's
such a good CEO, why has he been unable to reform the MTA by
lobbying the governor for support and also using his 4 or 5 seats.
Part of being a leader is consensus building.
Other than not let crime rise again, I can't name anything he's
done.
Bloomberg is one of those back door gun control fanactics -
trying to sue gun dealers and manufacturers in other states for
crimes in New York.
As for billionaires trying to buy the presidency, George Soros has
been trying to do that behind the scenes for years.
why has he been unable to reform the MTA by lobbying the
governor for support
Probably because he doesn't see anything wrong with it. The MTA may
be a monstrous hydra, but all the average voter sees is that the
system continues to run pretty well most of the time ever since the
bad old graffiti days. I think the bigger problem is with the labor
unions, but that's a can of worms he won't touch.
Didn't the original "campaign reform" law (the one that created
the FPPC) try to impose spending limits that included the
candidate's own purse, only to have that provision struck down by
the Supreme Court way back in the eighties? I'd be surprised if the
present Court even agreed to hear the issue again.
Even Robert Bork believed political speech deserved First
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