Jacob Sullum | May 10, 2007
Purdue Pharma has pleaded guilty to "misbranding" OxyContin by telling doctors that the timed-release version of oxycodone had a lower potential for abuse and addiction than other narcotic painkillers. It will pay some $600 million to resolve the criminal and civil charges stemming from its OxyContin marketing campaign. Since the company has admitted that its representatives falsely reassured doctors with fake scientific charts, among other fraudulent techniques, it is by no means blameless. But it's worth pointing out that Purdue Pharma is essentially being held responsible for the behavior of patients and black-market OxyContin buyers who deliberately crushed the pill to get all the oxycodone at once and then snorted or injected it. While the company might have anticipated this problem, it was not completely out of line in suggesting that the pills when taken as directed posed a lower addiction risk. "Accidental" addiction among legitimate patients taking narcotics for pain appears to be rare, but its incidence is greatly exaggerated by the government's anti-drug propaganda, and Purdue Pharma was largely responding to this perceived danger.
While OxyContin was oversold as an answer to the government's concern about nonmedical use, timed release was an important painkiller innovation, delivering steady relief over an extended period instead of the ups and downs associated with shorter-acting opioids. Purdue Pharma also makes MS Contin, a timed-release morphine tablet that predates OxyContin but has not attracted anything like the more notorious drug's sensational press coverage or black market following (which tend to feed each other).
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it was not completely out of line in suggesting that the
pills when taken as directed posed a lower addiction
risk.
But it was completely out of line in suggesting that they posed a
lower risk of abuse. "Time-release" just means you have to crush it
more thoroughly.
In other, much more unexpected drug war news:
http://www.lvrj.com/news/7436841.html
I think it is very telling that most of the fine will go to
Federal, State and local police departments.
So the incentive here is?
"but its incidence is greatly exaggerated by the government's
anti-drug propaganda, and Purdue Pharma was largely responding to
this perceived danger."
It's still fraud, are we OK with fraud as long as it's for the
"right" reasons?
I may be a heartless, selfish, capitalist running-dog exploiter of the world's workers but at least I admit to it. I can't work up any sympathy for these weasels. Screw 'em.
Memo to Jake: When defending a big drug company guilty of fraudulent behavior, DO NOT USE THE PHRASE "was not completely out of line." Maybe there's a good case to be made for cutting that $600 million in half, Jake, or even in fourths, but I think it requires a little more legwork.
I may be a heartless, selfish, capitalist running-dog
exploiter of the world's workers but at least I admit to it. I
can't work up any sympathy for these weasels. Screw 'em.
ummm
sooo...
Drugs should be legal right?
And in a society with legal drugs is it not unreasonable for a
company to make a painkiller when used as intended will limit the
amount of side effects, ie addiction, and to sell that painkiller
uses advertisements and marketing that highlight its advantage?
joshua, sure, but "highlighting its advantage" doesn't mean showing off false charts. Last I heard, under civil law, if you lie to your customers then they can sue you. Purdue lied and got sued. End of story AFAIAC.
It's still fraud, are we OK with fraud as long as it's for
the "right" reasons?
Would you agree that there's a difference between fraud that causes
a little damage, and fraud that causes massive damage.
Would you agree that there's a difference between fraud that
causes a little damage, and fraud that causes massive
damage.
I would agree that there is a difference between an award large
enough to disincentivize future lying, and an award too small to
disincentivize future lying.
If you want to know how big the award has to be to truly
disincentivize future dishonesty, then you can get a good rough
estimate by looking at how many legitimate journalists are in a
company's Rolodex. One million dollars in damages for every legit
journalist there is a good rule of thumb.
Drug companies have prerogatives in this society that you and I do
not, and with superior prerogatives come superior responsibilities,
a punctilio of honor most sensitive and all that.
It's still fraud, are we OK with fraud as long as it's for
the "right" reasons?
Yes, we are... or do you feel that Harriet Tubman should have gone
to jail, or the family that helped Anne Frank hide were
criminals?
Remember, the drug really did work as promised for the consumers.
No-one taking the drug was lied to or harmed. What was lied about
was strictly information that would only concern drug war
zealots.
I would agree that there is a difference between an award
large enough to disincentivize future lying, and an award too small
to disincentivize future lying.
So you don't see any need for proportionality between the damage
done and the punishment inflicted?
"MS Contin, a timed-release morphine tablet that predates
OxyContin but has not attracted anything like the more notorious
drug's sensational press coverage or black market following (which
tend to feed each other"
So, off the top of head, MS Contin is schedule II while Oxycontin
was initially schedule III ?
Just a guess.
That would lead to much easier access through the tight-assed
"gateway"
Morphine sulfate has near no effect when snorted and is not very
potent orally (totally rocks iv though).
There are pharmocological differences to explain the appeal of oxy
over MS.
I'd rather the State get the money than lawyers
and "victims"
I'll hate myself in the morning for agreeing even a tiny bit
with Dave W here, but if the point of "punitive" damages award is
to make it too painful for a company to repeat the behavior, then
no, there is no direct correlation between the damage done and the
size of the award. If you stick to a pure actual harm done basis,
then you get people at Ford calculating whether it's more expensive
to change the gas tank for the entire model or just pay off the
likely wrongful death awards.
Actually, tort law isn't a bad private mechanism in principle to do
this sort of market correcting. The problem is that the bulk of the
awarded damages go to lawyers "acting as private attorneys
general." If we could figure out how little they'd be willing to
take and then direct the rest of the punitive damages to something
more useful than a senior partner's trophy wife alimony payments,
it wouldn't be a bad system at all.
"Cheese" hysteria on Fox News!
Kiddie heroin that is cheaper than bubblegum and popular with 7
year olds.
Tylenol PM mixed with "black tar".
And the guy who first mixed coke and baking soda
thought he had a good idea........
"But it's worth pointing out that Purdue Pharma is essentially
being held responsible for the behavior of patients and
black-market OxyContin buyers who deliberately crushed the pill to
get all the oxycodone at once and then snorted or injected
it."
That's the way it works in our legal system. If you sneeze and
drive into someone's yard and run over their $50 mailbox, you owe
them $50. If you make exactly the same maneuver and cause their
wood stove to fall over and burn down the house, you owe them a new
house.
Same thing with how much trouble you get into if you irresponsibly
fire your gun into the night; sometimes, it just depends if someone
turned left or right half a mile away at a particular moment.
I'm not 100% sold that this advances justice to the maximum degree,
but it's hardly a unique situation for Purdue to get into more
trouble because of how their actions played out among other
people.
I'll hate myself in the morning for agreeing even a tiny bit
with Dave W here, but if the point of "punitive" damages award is
to make it too painful for a company to repeat the behavior, then
no, there is no direct correlation between the damage done and the
size of the award.
So you're comfortable with punishments that are grossly
disproportionate to the harm done?
That's the way it works in our legal system.
Actually, this is quite an innovation. It used to be that the
intervening criminal act of a third party was a defense. If someone
stole my car and killed someone, I wasn't responsible, even if I
negligently left the key in the ignition.
The addiction and abuse potential for oxycodone was well known before OxyContin hit the market. And since OxyContin is basically a time released form of oxycodone, why would anyone, especially doctors, believe it had a lower abuse/addiction potential?
And since OxyContin is basically a time released form of
oxycodone, why would anyone, especially doctors, believe it had a
lower abuse/addiction potential?
Because of Perdue Pharma's "fake scientific charts among other
fraudulent techniques," maybe.
So you're comfortable with punishments that are grossly
disproportionate to the harm done?
In a criminal case, like this, sure. Even "proportionality"
required by the no-cruel-and-unusual-punishments requirement (if
any) would clearly not extend to a criminal fine needing to be
proportional to the damages.
oh, and btw, I have issues, even problems, with punitive damages
in civil cases, both in theory and in practice. However, this case
does not seem to be a particularly great vehicle for discussing
those concerns because:
1. it is criminal (at least in some undisclosed proportion).
and
2. Drug safety information (and profitable) is serious business --
the rules that apply to widgets neither can or should be applied to
safety of the food supply and accurate info about expected side
effects of drugs (with unintended narcotic addiction being the
expected side effect here).
Hopefully Mr. Sullum can find a recent case where the punitive
damages truly are ridiculous. It seems to me that those cases are
getting harder and harder to find over the past decade or so.
Trying to shoehorn this case into that longstanding paradigm is
quite a stretch, even by the prevailing corporatarian standards
around here.
"needing to be proportional to the damages"
should have been:
--needing to be proportional to the compensatory damages (as that
term of art is understood in the civil law)--
(wish they would add an edit fcn to this bd!)
It does my heart good to see this company finally come to
justice. Just think of how many lives they have ruined with their
OxyContin policies for sales. Now maybe the company will not have
any more sales Rally's for this product purported to make them the
number one pharmaceutical company in the world!
No amount of money can bring back the lives these policies cost. I
think the fine should not go to law enforcement, but a fund should
be set up to reimburse those families who lost their loved ones as
a result of those policies.
OxyContin provide significantly improved pain relief for many
patients. The time release aspect of the medication allowed
patients to take one pill and get effective pain relief for a long
period of time.
This is a significant especially since many patients (cancer) have
difficulty swallowing. Being able to take one pill and get
sustained pain relief significantly improved their quality of
life.
What bought this settlement about was years of attacks on the
OxyContin by
1.) Trial lawyers who saw a big corporation with deep pockets they
could sue.
The lawyers sued for deaths of people who had died while abusing
the drug by crushing it to destroy the sustained release properties
of the product.
Many of the dead people were intoxicated with multiple drugs at the
time of their death. It could be argued that the alcohol or cocaine
is what killed them but your average coke dealer is not so easy to
sue.
2.) The usual suspects involved in the drug war panic industry.
Remember all of the overblown stories about hillbilly heroin, the
latest drug plague, etc, etc.
This will result in more people in more situations suffering from
more pain. Once again we will punish legitimate patients in
tremendous pain just to make a politically correct point courtesy
of the DEA and the trial lawyers.
It is disappointing to see how many people who are ignorant of the
histroy of OxyContin and its utility in pain management cheer on
the results of this particular witch hunt.
The lawyers sued for deaths of people who had died while
abusing the drug by crushing it to destroy the sustained release
properties of the product.
Desperate people do desperate things. For a responsible doctor, the
real question is at what margin is a patient's pain so bad that you
put a patient in a position where there is a risk that, over the
long run, they get so desperate that they start doing this.
Sometimes pain is bad enough that this risk is justified.
Sometimes lesser pain killers should be used to avoid having people
face this risk on a slight pretext.
Normally, this is a paternalistic stance to take. I don't want the
state or doctors or anyone acting as gatekeepers for mild stuff
like alcohol, cigarettes or mj. nevertheless, I am more comfortable
with some gatekeeping on morphine, heroin and oxycontin. it is just
the nature of those drugs and their addictions.
However, hard or soft the gatekeeper is on OxyContin (and I prefer
a softer gatekeeper than what we have now), that gatekeeper should
be a medical professional and should be able to rely on scientific
data supplied by the pharmaceutical company. As much as a patient
promises in advance not to crush the pills and try to get extra
pills on the side, I think those assurance need to be taken with
something of a grain of salt. Perdue wanted physicians to take the
assurances with a small grain. Turns out that a big grain would
have been more appropos. Whoops. Sorry, but that matters.
This fake graphs stuff is very not-helpful for people who would
like to see an incrementally more laissez-faire approach to
pharmaceutical drugs in the US. I mean, you guys get that, don't
you? Jacob? Somebody?
Dave W.
Your ignorance on this topic is painful to the eyes.
It is not the pain patients who were crushing pills and snorting
them it was drug abusers who got diverted OxyContin.
You also said
Sometimes lesser pain killers should be used to avoid having people face this risk on a slight pretext.
Given that the DEA has had a disturbing tendency to prosecute
doctors who provide adequate pain relief drugs like OxyContin tend
to be used only after milder classes of drugs fail to provide
adequate pain relief.
Opiate pain relievers are underused by physicians not over
used.
It is not the pain patients who were crushing pills and
snorting them it was drug abusers who got diverted
OxyContin.
here is how it works:
1. a pain patient (we'll call him Rush) gets a legit pain
prescription for slow release OxyContin.
2. Rush's legit use of slow release OxyContin morphs into an
addiction, with Rush starting to do despreate things like faking
pain, crushing pills, snorting and scoring non-prescribed narcotics
from his housekeeper.
3. Rush and his family now how a big problem on its hands, medical,
legal, work-wise, you name it.
Now sometimes this is a risk worth taking. A lot depends on how bad
Rush's pain was in the first place. However, we don't want
physicians getting patients started on this potential road unless
the pain is sufficiently serious. For physicians to develop good
judgment in balancing pain against addiction risk, they need good
info on addiction risk. That is what Purdue lied about here, and
that is what they are being punished for. You are acting like one
is either a pain patient, or a drug addict. The problem is that you
can be both. Slow release OxyContin might still be a good product
-- the optimum for some, or even many pain patients. the point of
this case, however, is that they don't get to lie to doctors about
the potential downside.
More ignorance from Dave W
Normally, this is a paternalistic stance to take. I don't want the state or doctors or anyone acting as gatekeepers for mild stuff like alcohol, cigarettes or mj.
Over time cigarettes and alcohol cause biochemical destruction
to the body ever hear of chronic obstructive pulmonary disorder, or
emphysema, how about cirrhosis? And as a minor detail they are not
effective for controlling pain.
On the other hand opiates are well tolerated, cause no biochemical
damage, and acutally relieve pain.
The ignorance continues to stack up Dave W says
nevertheless, I am more comfortable with some gatekeeping on morphine, heroin and oxycontin. it is just the nature of those drugs and their addictions.
Allow drugs that cause damage, aren't effective, and have no
medical use (tobacco and alcohol). Restrict drugs that are
effective and safe (opiates). Welcome to the upside down ignorance
of Daves world.
Stupidity like that is why we get to see the sight of terminal
cancer patients being denied adequate pain relief in the mistaken
belief that they might become addicted.
Dave W's post would be funny if it were not for the fact that
ignorant opinions like his cause immense amounts of human
suffering.
,i>Stupidity like that is why we get to see the sight of
terminal cancer patients being denied adequate pain relief in the
mistaken belief that they might become addicted.
I think we agree on the ultimate goal of getting people who really
need it access to the latest and greatest narcotics.
The difference is that you see Purdue's lying as helpful toward
that end, while I see it as profoundly unhelpful.
That is the difference between us right there.
"This will result in more people in more situations suffering
from more pain. Once again we will punish legitimate patients in
tremendous pain just to make a politically correct point courtesy
of the DEA and the trial lawyers."
How? It's not being taken off the market.
RC Dean,
"Actually, this is quite an innovation. It used to be that the
intervening criminal act of a third party was a defense. If someone
stole my car and killed someone, I wasn't responsible, even if I
negligently left the key in the ignition."
Only if your action was not a criminal act. Leaving your keys in
the ignition is not negligent under the legal definition.
In this case, the court decided, Perdue has committed an act that
was, itself, actionable.
If you negligently left your loaded gun lying in the playground,
for example, you could be facing charges if someone picks it up and
shoots somebody - even if they get charged for the murder.
"While the company might have anticipated this problem, it was
not completely out of line in suggesting that the pills when taken
as directed posed a lower addiction risk. "
They were out of line unless that had actual evidence to back up
the claim.
Instead, they just made shit up.
Sounds out of line to me.
"But it's worth pointing out that Purdue Pharma is essentially
being held responsible for the behavior of patients and
black-market OxyContin buyers who deliberately crushed the pill to
get all the oxycodone at once and then snorted or injected
it."
No.
They are being held responsible for their own fraud.
Can you even try and put together a coherent argument.
"Pharma contended that OxyContin, because of its time-release
formulation, posed a lower threat of abuse and addiction to
patients than do traditional, shorter-acting painkillers like
Percocet or Vicodin.
That claim became the linchpin of the most aggressive marketing
campaign ever undertaken by a pharmaceutical company for a narcotic
painkiller. "
But the claim was untrue.
Active fraud is at issue here.
If they had undertaken the aggressive marketing campaign based on
actual evidence or a true feature of the drug, then there wouldn't
be a case here.
You see that right?
Dave W said
I think we agree on the ultimate goal of getting people who really need it access to the latest and greatest narcotics.
Hard to square that statement with your calls for restricted
access to useful painkillers like opiates and no restriction on
access to cigarettes and alcohol which don't control pain and are
damaging to the body. That position is especially entertaining
given the fact that nicotine is highly addictive.
Dave W you also said
The difference is that you see Purdue's lying as helpful toward that end, while I see it as profoundly unhelpful.
Can't square that statement with the fact that I never mentioned Purdue in any of my comments.
Robert
To my statement of
"This will result in more people in more situations suffering from more pain. Once again we will punish legitimate patients in tremendous pain just to make a politically correct point courtesy of the DEA and the trial lawyers."
You said "How? It's not being taken off the market."
The answer to that question can be found by following this
link.
Prosecution of pain control specialists
Prescribing opiates for pain relief can flag a doctor for
prosecution by the DEA. So physicians soon learn not to prescribe
adequate pain relief if that requires ongoing treatment with
opiates.
The DEA, the trial lawyers, and Purdue all lied.
The DEA lied about the dangers of opiate pain relief and what was
appropriate for pain relief.
The trial lawyers lied about the same thing and they lied about the
circumstances related to many of the OxyContin related fatalities.
In most, it not all, of the fatalities oxccontin was misused by
crushing the drug. This misuse was often associated with
simultaneous abuse of many other drugs.
The trial lawyers and the DEA both used the gullible, uneducated
media, and its desire for sensational stories to propagate these
lies.
Pudue lied about the addictive potential of drug.
None of these lies are tolerable. But somehow the lies of the DEA
and the trial lawyers get ignored.
At the end of the day there is no doubt that the lies of the DEA
and the trial lawyers will cause for more human suffering then the
lies of Purdue ever will.
Evidence of this is the wide spread misconceptions about the
science of pain control and how the human body reacts to pain and
the opiates used to treat pain. Many of these misconceptions that
have been seen on this thread.
My personal priority is adequate pain relief for those people
who need. Pain relief is absolutely crucial to a good quality of
life for so many people that it overwhelms the unavoidable side
effect of the occasional death from misuse of opiates.
Pain patients don't have a choice with respect to their pain and to
deny them adequate relief is unspeakably cruel.
You said "How? It's not being taken off the market."
The answer to that question can be found by following this
link.
Prosecution of pain control specialists
No, it can't.
Prescribing opiates for pain relief can flag a doctor for
prosecution by the DEA. So physicians soon learn not to prescribe
adequate pain relief if that requires ongoing treatment with
opiates.
What does that have to do with false statements made to doctors in
the marketing of OxyContin? Are you saying that if drug makers are
allowed to lie to doctors about data regarding their products, then
DEA won't take note of what they consider suspicious use of
opiates?
I now take #120 - *) MG> of Oxy. per. month. What do I do know? 'God' help me and i hope that they 'BURN" in hell for what they have done to us inocent folks who were just looking for some pain relief........
Robert,
The key thing I am concerned with here is contained in you
statement
then DEA won't take note of what they consider suspicious use of opiates
I am saying the overhyping of the dangers of opiates in general
and OxyContin in particular allowed the trial lawyers and DEA to
gin up a significant problem where none exists. That created a
hysterical public demanding for people to do something.
This creates an environment that allows money seeking trial lawyers
and publicity seeking prosecutors a reason to go after doctors who
use opiates for pain control.
The environment is similar to the repressed memory scam and the
scandal of overzealous prosecutors convicting people of abusing
children when they had not.
If you read any of the links you would see how overzealous
prosecutors aided by an environment of hysteria created by
sensational media coverage ended up prosecuting doctors for drug
dealing who were doing nothing of the sort.
Everyone is focused on Purdues wrongdoing in this case and ignoring
the misdeeds of the trial lawyers, prosecutors, and media. Fair
enough the article was about Purdues misdeeds.
I am simply trying to show (and apparently being pretty ineffective
in explaining it) how much of the activity by the DEA and trial
lawyers is far more harmful to patient care then Purdues
misdeeds.
What you haven't done is show how fining Purdue for false
statements about their product makes that situation any
worse:
"This will result in more people in more situations suffering from
more pain. Once again we will punish legitimate patients in
tremendous pain just to make a politically correct point courtesy
of the DEA and the trial lawyers."
Explain. Or, explain how Purdue's making false statements about
their product lessened the problem cited above.
Or, explain how curbing abuses by DEA, trial lawyers, and publicity
seeking prosecutors is incompatible with stopping drug makers from
lying about their products.
Robert,
I don't think we disagree on Purdues misdeeds. Instead of focusing
only on Purdues misdeeds I have attempted to bring in the totality
of the situation around OxyContin. You said
explain how curbing abuses by DEA, trial lawyers, and publicity seeking prosecutors is incompatible with stopping drug makers from lying about their products.
I would say they are not incompatible. But somehow those abuses
never get curbed but company abuses regularly do.
The question is why don't the other abuses get curbed? Probably
because there is a natural alliance of interests to make sure
company misdeeds get lots of attention and are punished.
The other abuses, not so much.
"Instead of focusing only on Purdues misdeeds I have attempted
to bring in the totality of the situation around OxyContin."
But we've had threads on that aplenty. So it looks like you're just
saying, "Never mind this, I've got something else that's more
important." At least it's not HFCS.
Just a comment: It's funny how Purdue created a pain reliever that actually CAUSES PAIN when the user stops using it. So, for the sake of SALES, that works great. The patient actually feels pain when they stop taking oxycontin, so naturally they assume they're still in pain. When in fact it's the withdrawal of the drug itself causing the pain. Those guys are pretty smart. Lets not forget it was originally intended for terminally ill cancer patients, where it didn't really matter if they were addicted.l Purdue Pharma representatives should see jail time for what they've done. People with back pain, or a sprained wrist, or a minor surgery were being prescribed this, because they pleaded with FDA to be classified for moderate pain!
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