Jacob Sullum | May 2, 2007
A federal judge has dismissed a lawsuit in which a Maryland doctor, Arthur Hoyte, complained that KFC did not warn its customers conspicuously enough about the trans fat in its food. Here is my take on the suit, which was filed last year. KFC has since switched to a specially engineered soybean oil. Since the switch was in the works long before the lawsuit was filed, fans of litigating in the name of "public health" cannot reasonably take credit. But that won't stop them.
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Cue the food police...
KFC IS TRYING TO KILL US ALL WITH GENETICALLY MODIFIED SOY
BEANS!
Why can't they just fry in chicken fat? The circle of life could be
complete that way.
1. Hi, mg, you gunnut, you.
2. "Since the switch was in the works long before the lawsuit was
filed"
IIRC, this wasn't mentioned last time HnR blogged this
suited. Did you uncover an old article reporting the planned switch
prior to the lawsuit, or are you just on the Colonel's rolodex, Mr.
Sullum? If you are on the Colonel's rolodex, what is he like on the
phone? Is he just as genial as he was in the 1970s when I was
growing up? Can he still dunk a basketball like he did in the ads
in the 1990s?
It seems like the appearance of the food would be warning
enough.
I'm a Popeye's guy myself.
You know nothing of fried chicken till you've eaten at Sal's Birdland. Country Sweet Chicken and Ribs is also required eating.
With the KFC lawsuit dismissed, and restrictions lifted on
Indian mangoes, we can finally have unfettered free market
competition between fried chicken and chicken with a mango
curry.
Let the market decide!
I just saw a KFC commercial last night stating they got rid of trans-fat. Their take? It's now ok to eat a whole bucket of chicken again! The bucket is back!
I just saw a KFC commercial last night stating they got rid
of trans-fat. Their take? It's now ok to eat a whole bucket of
chicken again! The bucket is back!
I saw that one, too. It made me wonder, is the guy who eats a whole
bucket really health conscious enough to worry about trans
fats?
You know, as someone who can control my intake of "bad" foods,
I'm getting tired of my access to them being limited. If I want
deadly fried chicken, by golly, I'll have it. Along with my deadly
popcorn and my Claritin with meth ingredients in it.
Zeus-forsaken
bibertarians!
Again, since trans-fats have been staples of both home and commercial kitchens for something like 5 decades now, the idea that anybody would be using anything else should be advertised, not the other way around. Crisco (except for the new trans-fat-free formulations) is precisely what they're talking about. Nobody would expect people to have a 'crisco' warning. I don't know about lawyer reality, but in real reality, no reasonable person would expect that kind of warning.
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Fortunately Mr. Balko was merciful enough not to wipe ALL my
posts from HnR. Back in June 2006, I made a bold prediction
(set forth in bold text) about how this suit would go:
If [plaintiff can't allege some decent harm and some kind
of decent nexus between his harm and the actions of KFC] then
judgment on the pleadings under FRCP 12. Under this scenario KFC
would be out what? 50,000 smackers tops and no documents would need
be disgorged. Some good pr, too as we would have a grand pity party
for KFC.
Maybe they would even have a colorable Rule 11 motion.
I get the feeling some of the crybabies don't understand how
litigation really works.
Was my prediction correct?
https://ecf.dcd.uscourts.gov/cgi-bin/show_public_doc?2006cv1127-21
Let the pity party begin!
The judge notes that CSPI withdrew from this lawsuit when KFC
revealed its plan to eliminate transfats (that is, that plan that
KFC had had in the works since long before this suit was
filed).
What does Ron Paul have to do with chicken? Does he have a pro-fried chicken platform? If so, let's hear about it.
Good lord, what was that?
Also, it's Fox's debate. They can invite whoever the hell they
want. And I hope you never get to see my list of dinner guests.
I've got it. Ron Paul's national ad, that is:
Freedom. It's finger-lickin' good!
This cannot possibly lose.
In other KFC news today:
"KFC owner posts bumper earnings, despite rats and E. coli"
http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/05/02/business/yum.php
Things are looking up!
The huge irony is that the reason that KFC used trans-fats is that public health advocates in the late 1980s launched a campaign against using beef fat and by public shaming forced fast food chains to switch to trans-fats.
public health advocates in the late 1980s launched a
campaign against using beef fat and by public shaming forced fast
food chains to switch to trans-fats.
Why didn't KFC do a bit of research and debunk that then?
I mean if KFC is trying to help its customers have healthy food,
then it should look into these things, shouldn't it?
thoreau - I thought you weren't supposed to cross the
threads.
mg - I'm having a moment of deja vu
MediaG:
omh! how on earth did you make that call?
kewl! :)
Thoreau - I recommend Devon and Western here in Chicago - home of
some of the best fan-freakin-tastic Indian restaurants! It's an
awesome neighborhood!
Media - still in awe! That was beautiful!
"I've got it. Ron Paul's national ad, that is:
Freedom. It's finger-lickin' good!
This cannot possibly lose."
He could get The Beastie Boys to provide the soundtrack.
I think Ima have to hit the Lucky Wishbone for some deep fried goodness for dinner tonight.
Headline of the future:
"KFC settles lawsuit over cancer-causing effects of 'specially
engineered soybean oil'"
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Fox News debate? In South Carolina? Why would I want to have anything to do with that?
I go to KFC about 1.325 times a year.
I'm thinking this new chemistry may push me toward a more
enlightened approach, perhaps 1.875 times a year!
The Colonel rules! Gimme a bucket!
Can I substitute legs for thighs?
Please?
"... 'specially engineered soybean oil'"
This got me to thinking - maybe KFC could address some of the
health concerns by having a new products, made of healthier
ingredients, such as soy, and possibly lentils, too. Because these
products are more eco-friendly than chicken, they could emphasize
this aspect.
They could call it, oh, say, Soylent Green.
Now I'm wondering how deep-fried penguin tastes...
I'm guessing: chicken.
Fish-like chicken.
Pass the tartar sauce.
I've got it. Ron Paul's national ad, that is:
Freedom. It's finger-lickin' good!
This cannot possibly lose.
That's better than, "The buck-buck-buck stops here."
Maybe if they are ever able to reconstitute dinosaur DNA, we can have some humongous thighs.
As Big Mama of Pasadena says, "If the Colonel had my chicken, he'd be a General!"
The more they fix the foods I like to eat (Popeyes 11 piece for
me thanks) the less guilt I have about being a fat lazy gluttonous
pig. It's ok for me to eat a whole bucket myself cause now it's
healthy.
Thank you Lord.
"If the Colonel had my chicken, he'd be a General!"
Colonel Sanders is weak and pathetic. *I* am the only General who
counts in the world of chicken. My broiling style is far superior,
and with it, I will defeat all my enemies, ha ha ha!
Let General Cho bring it on; he shall find himself embroiled in the mother of all cockfights, and his forces shall die in the deep fat fryers of Hell!!!
General Cho's soldiers are committing suicide before the onslaught of our secret herbs and spices!
My chicken rules, it is Chicken Supreme
Gonna hammer your Colonel and make him scream
Your food is disgusting, it ain't finger-lickin'
I'll feed it back to you, and you'll choke on your chicken
I'm a spill your brains all over the floor
And after an hour I'll still be hungry for more
If KFC fights me, they're off their rocker
I'll deliver Colonel Sanders down to Davey Jones' locker
I will take out Colonel Sanders by delivering a crushing blow to
his forces. I will soy the seeds of destruction in the enemy ranks.
The outcome of the battle will be sweet for me, and sour for
you.
ha ha ha
When I was a kid we didn't have KFC near us, but there was the
oft-heard call, Don't cook tonight...call Chicken
Delightâ„¢!
The independent pizza joint just behind my house does fried
chicken, and it's on special on Thursdays - half a chicken, roll
and 2 sides for $5.99! I know it's bad for me, but I do like it.
When I'm feeling virtuous I'll grill my own, or get a rotisserie
bird at the supermarket. It may not be any healthier, but the walk
there and back gives me more exercise!
Kevin
What does Ron Paul have to do with chicken? Does he have a
pro-fried chicken platform? If so, let's hear about it.
He wants to chicke out of Iraq. Does that count?
BakedPenguin,
Any Hestonian reference passes muster around here. Why I
never pass up a Soylent Green or Planet of
the Apes opportunity!
Soylent Green, made of the best thing on Earth. . .people!
"ed | May 2, 2007, 9:17pm | #
Now I'm wondering how deep-fried penguin tastes...
I'm guessing: chicken.
Fish-like chicken."
Shackleton and the crew of the Endurance used penguins for both
fuel and food. It was served as a stew not fried because of
temperament of the penguin fat fueled stoves. This is why we don't
hear the expression "Let the penguin fry in its own fat?"
I figured ed to be a (metaphorical) sea lion lover. Some people
you're never going to please.
Pro L, I couldn't believe when I heard they were remaking Omega
Man. Then I hear f'n Will Smith is going to do the Heston
role. I felt like screaming "You maniacs! You blew it! God damn you
all to hell!" I mean, anybody but Smith.
Etouffee, I've started exercising again, just to avoid that
fate.
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