David Weigel | April 10, 2007
This is what a pander looks like, everybody.
He told reporters he supported government intervention to keep the severely brain-damaged Terri Schiavo alive after courts ordered her feeding tubes removed: "I thought it was appropriate to make every effort to give her a chance to stay alive."
I just did a quick check for Giuliani's contemporary public
statements on the Terri Schiavo affair. There aren't
any. Ducking the issue then was smart; bigfooting on
it now, years after it's agreed that it hurt the GOP, makes zero
sense.
UPDATE: Eh, false alarm on the "no public statements" thing. The ThinkProgress bloggers found a pro-feeding tube quote from Rudy in April 2005: "I think the right decision would have been to keep the feeding tube in, under the circumstances of the case." He said that the day after she died, and you could certainly argue that someone who actually cared about the case would have said something beforehand - it's not like Rudy has trouble getting on TV. But his position hasn't changed.
Thanks to ChicagoTom.
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Next he'll tell us he personally prevented stem cells from being harvested from Michael Stewart and Eleanor Bumpers.
No, it makes perfect sense. But who the hell cares what Giuliani thinks about Terri Schiavo now??
It further solidifies his status as a horse's ass, IMHO. And I thought that was an impossible feat.
it's the primaries, he's pandering to Christian conservatives that probably wonder what he's up to with the transvestite stuff. He'll run back towards the center once he's got the nomination.
I'm no Giuliani fan, but The Center
for American Progress reported this:
But a New York Post article from April 1, 2005, in the midst of
the controversy, quotes Giuliani expressing the same
position:
"I think the right decision would have been to keep the feeding
tube in, under the circumstances of the case," former Mayor Rudy
Giuliani said.
So, if true, it seems like he didn't really duck the issue
completely -- he was on the wrong side from early on. Sorry, no
linkee provided to that Post article
It makes perfect sense, he's in a primary race where everyone
agrees his main challenge is to appeal to the Christian right.
Pandering is what politicians do. Why do you think Hillary is
suddenly advocating surrender in Iraq?
Besides, whatever the merits of the case for Schiavo being in a
vegetative state, the guy trying to have her killed was pretty
creepy. It should have been her parents' choice.
the guy trying to have her killed was pretty
creepy.
Uhmm...you mean her husband and legal guardian?
" "I think the right decision would have been to keep the
feeding tube in, under the circumstances of the case," former Mayor
Rudy Giuliani said."
just shows he's a shill for Big Food Processor.
Next question.
So nothing except the Shaivo thing is pandering? Or did I just misunderstand?
CT,
Not to short the CFAP's point, but Schaivo died on March 31,
2005. In other words, Giuliani expressed his opinion after all
was said and done, hardly what I would call "in the midst of the
controversy" considering that Florida's passage of "Terri's Law" in
October of '03 is what started the political big top a-dancing.
the guy trying to have her killed was pretty creepy. It should have been her parents' choice.
Uhmm...you mean her husband and legal guardian?
Not to mention the person she left her parents to be with...
oh god not this thing again. one of the ugliest public "debates" ever, quite possibly. (that may be hyperbole, of course, so let's say "at least in my lifetime")
Where's Eric Dondero to tell me that I should vote for Guiliani either in spite of or because of this?
Chicago Tom:
Keepin' the Pride at Ft. Dearborn!
:)
High#: probably "because of".
Did either of you hear the game last night? Thome did it again! woo
hoo!
I'm just glad that Contreras got past the 2nd inning :)
My problem with Thome is that he is that between his HRs he strikes
out and goes 0-for way too much. But I'm still bitter about losing
Big Frank (Oakland paid him next to nothing considering his numbers
were almost as good as Thome's)
Pods showing some power was pretty awesome. Maybe he can hit one
more by the season finale :)
So far this season, I've been most impressed with this kid Aardsma.
He is looking like a solid part of the bridge to Jenks and a good
choice to stop the bleeding when necessary.
Did either of you hear the game last night? Thome did it
again! woo hoo!
Kill me.
Signed,
A Phillies fan
How ironic is it that a very creepy "Rudy 2008" ad appears to the right on this very comments section.... BTW I having looked at the ad I willl forever call him "Ghouliani"
Meh. If I were a Giuliani supporter I don't think this would alter my opionion. It's small potatoes, guys.
"Meh. If I were a Giuliani supporter I don't think this would
alter my opionion. It's small potatoes, guys."
Direct me to the spot where Weigel makes like it's "big potatoes"?
If anybody is overly accustomed to recognizing how routine
political pandering is, libertarians certainly are.
NotthatDavid -
get in line after Indians fans :)
- what were you doing when Joe Carter hit his dinger?
Chicago - Big Frank had a great run here, but he needed a break, I
guess.
Aardsma's success (may it continue and get better!) underscores the
idiocracy of the Cubbies staff!
What happened to "the Chosen People" thread?
It was an April Fools hoax. I was just thrown by the fact that the
story came out today, instead of April 1.
Meh. If I were a Giuliani supporter I don't think this would
alter my opionion.
I can't imagine what on earth would alter the opinion of a Giuliani
supporter.
Uhmm...you mean her husband and legal guardian?
Yes! There was a nurse who was quite emphatic about his
creepiness.
YEA! More Fred traction! Perhaps when he speaks we can call it
"Fredmentom", but that was wasted on a Joe.
Oh, David, you missed a great Kos book
review review of a NYT 'article'. Seems that the term
"Fairbanksing" is gaining ground ;)
Yes! There was a nurse who was quite emphatic about his
creepiness.
So, am I to assume that whatever rights you hold under existing law
through the contract of marriage are trumped by "creepiness", as
defined by a third party?
I've always been mystified by the Terri Schiavo thing. First the odd emphasis on "feeding tube", as if that mattered one bit. Lots of people have feeding tubes - so what? And the euphemism of "removing the tube" for slow death by dehydration. Nobody would kill an animal that way. Makes Dr. Kavorkian seem humane and dignified by comparison. And they put him in prison!
""" It should have been her parents' choice."""
If she was single then I would agree, but once you get married it's
your spouses choice. You've left the parental nest.
"""Nobody would kill an animal that way."""
That's true. We would simply shoot the animal. Sorry, that's farm
talk. We would respectfully put them to sleep.
"Nobody would kill an animal that way."
Nope. I can't think of a single issue involving (1) animals, (2)
feeding tubes, and (3) banning delicious food in Chicago.
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