Jacob Sullum | March 28, 2007
This is not your father's asphyxiation game:
While asphyxiation games have been around for many years, a series of locally publicized deaths around the country over the last few years, coupled with a realization that teenagers are seeing the game on Internet sites like YouTube, and playing it in more threatening variations—more often, like Levi, alone with a rope—are sparking a vigorous and open discussion in schools and among parents' groups, summer camp administrators and doctors....
A group called the Dylan Blake Foundation, founded by a parent who lost an 11-year-old son in 2005, said there were at least 40 deaths and 5 serious injuries from the game in the United States alone last year.
But the exact number remains uncertain because there has been little real research, health professionals say, and because medical examiners have been quick in the past to rule suicide. Some adults might also dismiss the game as the slumber party goof it was in years past, when constriction to the point of death was virtually unheard of....
"Asphyxiation games have been with us for generations, but what makes the current generation's execution of this game different is that more kids are willing to play it alone," said Dr. Thomas Andrew, the chief medical examiner in New Hampshire.
If seeing choking for kicks on YouTube stimulates interest in the practice, what impact will "antichoking game presentations" such as those described in the article have on impressionable young minds? Well, at least they're not smoking pot.
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...there were at least 40 deaths and 5 serious
injuries
Jeebus H Christ on a pogo stick. Can't we make a rule that you
aren't allowed to start a "for the children" panic with less than
10,000 deaths per year?
So 40 deaths a year, that's, what one in a million? According to the census, there are 36.4 million elementary children, and 16.8 million folks between 14 and 17, so at worst you're looking at a one in a million occurrence. That is, hardly worth worrying about.
JohnD beat me to it.
Frankly, people that accidently kill themselves by playing an
ashphyxiation game deserve to die, the stupid bastards. Better that
they cease to pollute the gene pool.
Well, it's easy to forget how dumb kids can be, especially when their stupider peers are involved. I'm not quite willing to say that warning kids about something dangerous (whether generally lethal or not) is a bad idea. Legislation or a course curriculum dedicated to this issue would be another matter, of course.
Kids still do this? Don't they have an XBox 360 or a Wii? Why do
their parents hate them so to deny them these gaming pleasures. I
blame these thoughtless, negligent parents.
If I were the parent of a tween, I would recommend a rainbow party
over an asphyxiation party. Huffing parties during January also
brighten up the darkest days of the year.
"what impact will "antichoking game presentations" such as those
described in the article have on impressionable young minds?"
In the alternate universe that public health officials inhabit,
there is no youthful behavior that cannot be discouraged by a stern
lecture in a classroom setting. You know, because kids respect the
authority of their teachers and everything.
Huffing parties during January also brighten up the darkest
days of the year.
HA!
Omigod! If you, like, do a bong hit (and hold it), and then have
a chick choke you, and have another chick do.. something to you,
and at the same time, you perform a certain bodily function.. you
get SO HIGH!
That's what happend to that guy from INXS.
Ugh, I played the pass-out game. Drug-free youth still got
high.
signed,
No longer nailed to the X.
If I were a parent, I'd tell my kid(s), "If you play this 'game' and don't die, you better hope that I don't get wind of it. Because if I do, I'm going to beat the shit out of you and you'll wish that you had died."
Am I insane, or just a bad father, or do I have Stepford sons? I
know everything my kids are up to, even really bad stuff they know
I disapprove of. I even had one confess, in advance of my finding
out, to something he thought I would be very upset about.
Please report me to the police: I am so involved in my sons' lives
that they cannot strangle the life out of themselves without my
knowledge. Maybe I consider them more important than living in my
own little world.
This is one of those perennial media-driven panics. I remember Oprah doing a special on the same thing when I was 12 or so. (My initial thought was 'What the hell is wrong with these morons?') When ratings dip, it's oh-so-easy to reach into the file labeled 'stories dealing with teens, sex, and death.' Given our national prurient interest in the sex lives of adolescents and the desire of some folks to have something to panic about, it's a can't miss story.
Passim,
Unfortunately, it seems as if your type of parenting is going by
the wayside. Too many parents are too selfish and self-centered to
really, truly care about what goes on in the lives of their
children.
Maybe I'm sheltered, but I never heard of kids doing this.
Autoerotic asphyxiation--*that* I've heard of and even met someone
who later died from it.
I agree about the Darwin Award aspect of this.
My favorite pro-legalization argument (when I'm not talking to a
stone cold moron) is to point out that small children who can
barely walk will spin around and around until they fall down dizzy.
We seek to alter our consciousness before we can even grasp its
crudest distinctions. We will never wipe out drugs.
These kids are just doing what all of the rest of us do, they just
don't have our fancy tools (pot, wine, Wellbutrin, sex, etc.) I
vote we take it easy on them. Think about how many times as a child
or a teenager you could have died if some little thing (like
squeezing too long) had been different. I should have died maybe...
thirty times?
(Disclaimer: I'm really not nagging you guys to be nice. I thought
the crying fat Santorum girl was hilarious...)
Kids still do this? Don't they have an XBox 360 or a Wii?
Or internet porn and their dominant hands?
highnumber,
He's nailed to the X with every rainbow party, asphyxiation game,
and plastic bag thrown in the street, not to mention all the other
crimes committed by our wicked kind.
Apologies if this is a repeat post.
JimmyDaGeek,
Please tell me it isn't! I am fully aware that I have a huge
advantage over other parents. I work from home whenever I please; I
can afford to send my kids to a private school; I live within
walking distance of said school; and, since they're adopted from a
crap 3rd-world orphanage (long story...blame Sister Maria and her
huge guilt trip), they are perhaps unusually compliant.
BUT! My own father worked almost 24-7-365, as did my mother (they
were the original dual income household), and he was in other
countries half my life. But I could never, ever, put anything past
him. He knew everything I did, and all my friends. And if I ever
even thought about watching something he didn't approve of, or
screwing around, or smoking something naughty...HE KNEW!
I'm not a Victorian! But am I really the only guy my age--other
than Mormons--who manages to keep an eye on his kids?
I mean, really, if I thought I couldn't keep an eye on them--if
I thought for one instant that they were not gentlemen-in-training,
then I would quit everything.
I guess I must be weird. Once I said I'd be their father, I agreed
to turn my fashionable apartment into a war zone, and give up my
wine-and-cheese parties, and learn to deal with puke on my sofa,
and get used to explaining circumcision and homosexuality and
menstruation and masturbation and other equally appalling subjects,
and learn to tell my friends that, no, I cannot come to the new
club opening because I've got a sick kid at home and he needs his
dad....and and and.
Aaggghhhh! Whenever I read crap like this, I am compelled to ask,
"Where are the parents, and why are they deliberately, knowingly,
and with malice-aforethought, refusing to do their fucking
jobs?!
If this is really a one in a million occurrence, we shouldn't make a big deal of it with kids 'cause it would just make even more morons aware of it as an option.
I'm not a Victorian! But am I really the only guy my
age--other than Mormons--who manages to keep an eye on his
kids?
Nope. Even though my youngins' aren't that old yet, my favorite
game is Silent Dad of Death.
When I know they are up to no good, I walk very quietly to the
scene of the crime and just stand there until they notice me.
Sometimes it takes a minute or so.
The look of total shock on their faces is worth everything.
Frankly, people that accidently kill themselves by playing an
ashphyxiation game deserve to die, the stupid bastards. Better that
they cease to pollute the gene pool.
I take it then, you are not a parent and have forgotten just how
unbeliveably stupid and impressionable 11-year old boys can
be.
Not that I think we need to "do something" about this extremely
rare act, but you can always spot the childless males in a
crowd.
Fantastic, another foundation to stop people from being
stupid.
Hey, I have two kids and my life would just about be over if
anything happened to them. But you know what, I'd be more pissed
that they didn't have the foresight to see that perhaps they might
die doing this. Cuz if I found out they were playing this game and
didn't die, I'd kill them.
Did anyone else see the urban-myth style "report" on CNN about
the evil meth dealers turning meth into sugary candy to addict the
children... and lots of factless fearmongering about it!
While you can get a few people worked up about suffocation games,
there is no clear target (i.e. a drug dealer) that we can vilify.
The meth candy is going to be this year's Rainbow Party panic!
Trust me!
Uh, couldn't a chick choke while getting too enthusiastic with the rainbow?
JimmyDa....Me and you man.
Mrs TWC and I both work at home. The House Blond is getting locked
in the basement the minute puberty hits and her brother is going to
be chained to his desk.
Seriously, we keep them busy because BUSY HANDS ARE HAPPY
HANDS.
And, That boy is NEVER getting a driver license, Jesus Chrysler,
I swear he hasn't got any sense at all. :-)
Another thing too, we're straight up about stuff. I told him all
about the glue sniffer I knew in grade school that ended up
coughing up his lungs and died on the floor in the garage. Don't
sniff that stuff, son, it will make you high but it's just as
likely to give you brain damage and you ain't got any brain cells
to spare.
I take it then, you are not a parent and have forgotten just
how unbeliveably stupid and impressionable 11-year old boys can
be.
And Girls.
Yesterday, I'm playing handball with my 10 year old boy and I hear
the House Blonde holler lookit me daddy. She's
8.
I turn around and she has climbed the basketball pole and stuck her
head up through the rim and has the net wrapped around her head. My
eyes got big as saucers.
Fortunately, no harm no foul, but I told her right quick that if
she did that when nobody was around and slipped, lost her grip,
whatever, she'd likely as not hang herself. And that's the
connection to the thread, accidental hanging.
TWC- I do believe an eight year old almost hanging her self is much different from a teenager intentionally cutting off the oxygen to his brain. I say go for it buddy, one less i have to worry about collecting "citizen" assistance.
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