Jacob Sullum | March 21, 2007
Members of Congress, including Republicans as well as Democrats, are dismayed that the FBI has failed to adequately supervise itself to prevent misuse of "national security letters" demanding phone, email, and financial records. A recent report from Justice Department Inspector General Glenn Fine revealed, among other abuses, that the FBI was keeping incomplete records of NSLs and asserting "exigent circumstances" that did not exist. The legislators who voted to give the FBI the authority to unilaterally grab whatever records it thinks might be useful for investigating terrorism are amazed at the lack of proper oversight:
"I just want to convey to you how upset many of us are who have defended this program and have believed it is necessary to the protection of our country," Representative Dan Lungren, Republican of California, told Valerie E. Caproni, the bureau's general counsel....
Representative Darrell Issa, also a California Republican, said he was "shocked" by the bureau's transgressions and suggested that they might have broken the law.
"If what was done was done by a private-sector individual, wouldn't the F.B.I. be arresting them?" Mr. Issa asked. "Wouldn't the U.S. attorneys be prosecuting people who played fast and loose with these rules?"
How to prevent such abuses? I'm just thinking out loud here, but what if someone outside the FBI, maybe even in a different branch of government, reviewed these record demands before businesses were required to comply with them?
Kerry Howley considered the NSL scandal earlier this week.
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I'm just thinking out loud here, but what if someone outside
the FBI, maybe even in a different branch of government, reviewed
these record demands before businesses were required to comply with
them?
Why do you hate America, Jacob? Why do you want the terrorists to
win?
So, this new Congress has only been in a couple of months and the FBI is misbehaving worse than under Hoover? hehehe :)
In the spirit of full disclosure, it should be noted that Rep. Issa made his fortune in car alarms. Yes, that is his voice warning you to, "Step Back! Protected by Viper!"
Can they do like that place in New Zealand and sue themselves?? I'd like to see that...
Jimmydageek: Screw that, what I want to know is whether or not they can execute a no-knock warrant on themselves.
"I can tell you that we've had a lot of soul-searching at
the F.B.I." since the inspector general placed "an F on our report
card," she said.
Probably didn't have a warrant for that, either.
How to prevent such abuses? I'm just thinking out loud here,
but what if someone outside the FBI, maybe even in a different
branch of government, reviewed these record demands before
businesses were required to comply with them?
This is a job for. . .The Censor!
And no, I am not obsessive. Merely focused.
How to prevent such abuses? I'm just thinking out loud here, but
what if someone outside the FBI, maybe even in a different branch
of government, reviewed these record demands before businesses were
required to comply with them?
You would have to rewrite the Constitution to include this new
concept you're proposing. I think you should call it "checks and
balances." I don't think you could get Bush to go for it,
though.
Dan Lundgren is chastising law enforcement officials for
overstepping their bounds.
Dan Lundgren. It's tame to take a hard look in the mirror when
you're to the right of Dan Lundgren on the reach of law
enforcement.
The legislators who voted to give the FBI the authority to
unilaterally grab whatever records it thinks might be useful for
investigating terrorism are amazed at the lack of proper
oversight
We have a Bill of Rights to restrain government because throughout
history governments have needed restraining. What part of "nature
of the beast" do these people not understand.
If Efrem
Zimbalist Jr. were dead he'd be spinning in his
grave.
For the most part, the people of this counrty are more
interested in arguing with each other about which side is better or
worse instead of paying attention to the on coming train. They are
more interested in calling each other names than finding
truth.
I guess I am showing my age if I admit I know who Efrem Zimbalist
Jr is.
The right of the people to be secure in their persons,
houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and
seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but
upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and
particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons
or things to be seized.
How I wish SOMEONE in the federal government could read
English.
This just goes to show that they knew all along these powers were going to be abused and how much of a stretch was it to think they would to begin with. These are the idiots we put in charge of not only our supposed freedom but our security as well. I feel neither and I want my fucking money back!
How far up their own asses can this president, government, and
the FBI stick their own heads?
I would like to say that it is time for impeachment, butI now think
that it's time for REVOLUTION!!!!!!
"I can tell you that we've had a lot of soul-searching at
the F.B.I."
He says this like he expects us to believe they have souls.
"I can tell you that we've had a lot of soul-searching at
the F.B.I."
He says this like he expects us to believe they have
souls.
Oh, no, no. He is explicitly stating that they are hungry. It's
common knowledge that the FBI is primarily staffed by soul
devourers.
"Who Could Have Foreseen the FBI's Failure to Oversee
Itself?"
Um, you guys? Over five years ago?
Don't be shy, go ahead and link. You were absolutely right about
loosening up the standards and practices to get National Security
Letters back when the Patriot Act was being debated.
showing my age if I admit I know who Efrem Zimbalist Jr
is
Got you there, dude. I know who Efrem Zimbalist
Senior is.
I saw an explanation of this problem that goes like this:
The FBI is a detective agency. Its primary purpose is to find those
responsible for crimes already committed.
The FBI is NOT an intelligence agency, which has a completely
different purpose: to detect crimes which may occur. The FBI
therefore has no idea how to go about a counter-terrorism task. So
crap like this happens.
So now we have yet another confirmation of the wisdom of the 4th
Amendment, just as you would have yet another (ho-hum) confirmation
of the law of gravity if you crumpled up a National Security Letter
(or, for that matter, a copy of the Constitution) and let it fall
to the ground.
Duh.
Must every generation rediscover these truths the hard way? At the
expense of their fellow citizens? Can we now release the detainees
in Guantanamo and put the violators of our Constitution there? As
long as the latter are allowed to roam free and mess with our
rights, the terrorists have well and truly won. Disgusting.
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