Kerry Howley | March 19, 2007
In its 2005 human trafficking report, the State Department deemed the United Arab Emirates a "tier 3" country. That designation carries with it the threat of sanctions. How did 2006 work out?
Police arrested and deported 4,300 prostitutes from the United Arab Emirates last year, a police colonel said in remarks published yesterday about a normally taboo subject in the region.
Mohammed Al-Mir, who heads Dubai police human rights department, gave the figure to a seminar on people trafficking, the newspaper 7 Days reported.
Regular raids were being carried out in places thought to be frequented by prostitutes, deported women were blacklisted to prevent their return, and tourist companies bringing women into the country were checked to make sure their clients were not prostitutes.
To recap: The head of Dubai's "police human rights department," speaking at a trafficking seminar, feels that it's a good time to brag about those 4,300 working immigrants he helped boot from the country.
Two years back, I suggested that the war on trafficking had morphed into a crackdown on human mobility. Tracy Quan, speaking with rather more authority, comes to a similar conclusion here.
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It seems to me that the libertarian position on whether this
crackdown is a good thing or not turns on the question of just what
kind of arrangement these prostitutes had.
If they were the equivalent of slaves or were in the hands of
criminal organizations, the crackdown would be a good thing,
no?
If, on the other hand, they were free-wheeling entrepeneurs, the
crackdown would be a bad thing.
Given what little I know about the international trade in
prostitutes, I suspect it was more the former than the latter.
To further RC Dean's comment, it would have been advisable for
Karry Howley to include the following paragraphs from the story
posted...
But Mir told the seminar that there had to be discrimination
between those caught working willingly as prostitutes and those
forced into it.
"The woman that practices prostitution without pressure from
anybody must be punished and deported. But if somebody has forced
her into prostitution and takes advantage of her body to make a
financial profit then she is a victim and the person who forced her
into prostitution will be punished," he said.
Most of the women were from Eastern Europe according to the
story...so go figure.
Given that we're talking about Dubai, if those women weren't making $200,000 a year (at least), then we can probably assume they weren't there by choice.
Gaijin,
The fact that those grafs are irrelevant is precisely the point of
the linked piece. In practice, it is almost impossible to
distinguish between trafficked women and sex workers.
In practice, it is almost impossible to distinguish between
trafficked women and sex workers.
I would suspect checking to see if the women in question were in
possession of their own passports would go some way in
distinguishing between the two groups. Of course, many probably are
trafficked and / or voluntarily enter countries other than through
border checkpoints. Presumably, also, many who are in fact being
trafficked will not acknowledge as much to authorities for fear of
reprisal, but unless Ms Howley's contention is that there is no
difference in fact between trafficked women and voluntary sex
worker, the fact that the difference may be hard to substantiate on
a case by case basis hardly justifies doing nothing to sort them
out.
And I wonder how the customer can clearly distinguish? If I walk into a bar and a woman approaches me, suggests I pay the bar to take her to my hotel, how am I to know what sort of arrangement she has with said bar? She could be in some sort of indentured relationship with the bar owner or perhaps the bar is simply acting as a middle man and getting a cut for providing a locale for the sex worker to operate.
And I wonder how the customer can clearly
distinguish?
Perhaps, if the customer cares at all about the possibility that he
might be funding quasi-slavery and international criminal gangs, he
should refrain from hiring strange women in bars?
A good point, R.C., but then one might also be depriving a woman of her best option out of a short life of back breaking labor on a farm. Sex work can actually be empowering for women. Especially poor women with few skills, whose other options are the above or possibly malnutrition, or a marriage to an abusive and dominating husband. Sex work can give them control over their future. That is when they are truly free agents.
Here's another point: suppose a woman is working for a brothel where she's basically been sold into it and must essentially 'work' until she's paid off her 'debt' to the brothel owner. Of course the ideal option would be to bust the brothel owner, make sure everyone is set free, and set them up in job training programs. But in some countries, this is just not happening or fast enough. Short of the ideal option, a high paying customer, who tips the sex worker well under the table, can offer a faster route for the sex worker out of her debt. You might then ask, 'well, wouldn't the most noble thing to do would be to not have the sex, but then pay the owner and tip the sex worker handsomely'? Sure, but except for certain cultural considerations. One, some of these women appear to like the power they have over men as well as to like the fact they are providing a pleasure. They can take a certain pride in their beauty, allure, and skills. To turn around and refuse sex would be insulting to some of them - suggesting they are unattractive, or that you are taking pity, or that what they are doing is dirty; in short, it can cause a loss of face, adding shame to what they were doing. Also, remember that not all cultures view sex the way we do. And in some cultures, the women take pride in the fact they are supporting their families back home. That they are the main breadwinners. They might even consider what they are doing as honorable, as helping mom and dad survive, get health treatments, etc. is the best and noblest thing they can do. It's not as simple as you might think to decide what is the moral high ground here.
Elmer seems to be working hard to justify things here.
It is clear that there is an important distinction between 1)
slavery and 2) voluntary sex work. There is not a libertarian issue
involved here. One is clearly a problem that the state has a duty
to be involved in (since a person's liberty is being taken by
another) the second is clearly not (although a pragmatic argument
for licensing to distinguish between 1 and 2 might be made).
For a nicely done examination of the complexities...
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/slaves/
Maybe I'm justifying. At least for past behavior - well in the
past. But I'm also offering a dose of reality. The two are not
necessarily in opposition. Perhaps exploring some of the poorer
countries where sex work takes place would open your eyes to their
contexts - rather than just project your own first world, western
reality onto theirs.
Like, I said, I think the best option for the involuntary sex work
is arresting the traffickers and setting up of the workers in job
training. But if that option is not available or enough, then
wouldn't it be better to offer the next best option (even if it
also satisfies one's own personal vice) for the worker? By the way,
if it does seem like I'm just trying to rationalize my own
behavior, I will admit that I have visited bars and brothels
several times in my travels. Yet, I actually haven't made a habit
of it. In twenty years of travel, my visits have come to only about
a half a dozen. And the last time was several years ago. That
doesn't make me squeaky clean obviously. Yet, I'm trying to
actually raise issues here that go beyond what my personal
interests are, as this is not currently, nor has it been
frequently, one of my vices.
There is no such thing as a "sex worker". That term is
disgusting, all women who are prostitutes are sex slaves, even if
the "work" of their own choosing, they are still imprisoned by the
evil hierarchical male patriarchy. All sex between men and women is
rape. I learned this in college in women studies, they wouldn't
teach it if it wasn't true. The best way to prevent traficing is to
pass strict laws against all prostitutes and make sure everone
involved is arested. If Jesus were alive today he would want
prostitutes to be arested and imprisoned. We have got to do it to
stop Aids.
J
Sex is immoral and should therefore be illegal, period, end
of discussion.
Hooray! No joe jr.
If Jesus were alive today he would want prostitutes to be
arrested and imprisoned.
1. He is.
2. That isn't what He told the folks who caught the woman in
adultry. Nor is it what He said to her. And adultry's one of the
Big Ten.
This "joe", despite using the lower case, is not our beloved urban planner turned consultant. Just take a look at the email address.
Here's another point: countries have laws, and people who enter
that country intending to break those laws should be deported. No
one's "mobility rights" include the right to enter a country to
break their laws.
Oh, and it's refreshing to see at least one site having the guts to
support human trafficking and modern-day slavery. I don't *agree*
with you, but it's good to know that someone is willing to do that,
if only for an absolute reference point.
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Bonus! Read about Washington
Monthly editing comments without noting that they had been
edited.
Also seems that deciding who gets punished the way Mir suggests sounds like a good way to inflate the statistics on how many are coerced
Elmer,
Sorry but,
"Short of the ideal option, a high paying customer, who tips the
sex worker well under the table, can offer a faster route for the
sex worker out of her debt."
Doesn't really pass the reality test. You would have to be naive to
think that there is any way for the "sex worker" to work off her
debt in these situations.
As for this...
"Perhaps exploring some of the poorer countries where sex work
takes place would open your eyes to their contexts - rather than
just project your own first world, western reality onto
theirs."
You make a lot of assumptions here.
First off, I live in NM, which hasn't been accepted into the first
world yet ;^)
...Ur Uhm... seriously though. This isn't about projecting my
reality into the situation. People who are placed into violent
coercive situations have a culturally independent right to be given
a way out of that situation and have their oppressors dealt with.
Making the distinction between class 1 cases and class 2 cases may
be difficult, but you're the one being naive if you think that
cultural differences provide a moral sanctioning of slavery.
Perhaps, if the customer cares at all about the possibility
that he might be funding quasi-slavery and international criminal
gangs, he should refrain from hiring strange women in
bars?
Now you're talking silly talk, RC. Next you're going to tell us
that we don't have a right to download copyrighted music without
permission.
My experience with sex therapists (my preferred term) has mostly
been in Asia. Like Elmer, it's in the past for me though I had
about 5 times more interactions than he did.
Unlike some of the stereo-types generally presented, most of the
therapists I had involvement with were energetic, confident, and
assertive. They set the rules for the bedroom and I followed them
as while I was the paying customer I believe in only full
consensuality in any form of sex. One woman that I met in a disco
told me some of her own rules for herself - one was to work only
every other day. She also liked to be pleasured and guided me in
that...endeavor.
About half the women I was with seemed to enjoy the experience or
they were really good at faking not only orgasm but all the signs,
physical and vocal, of sexual excitement leading up to orgasm.
About one third were not so good at faking it but nevertheless
seemed to take pride and pleasure in their performance. I'd also
agree that they seemed to like the power their attractiveness held
over me. Only a few seemed not so comfortable with it or seemed
bored. With those women I didn't insist on having sex - we just
watched tv or chatted - but I paid the money anyway and even more,
as I wasn't sure what sorts of arrangements they might have been in
and I wanted to help them out if I could. Just because I liked sex
with pros didn't mean I was heartless. I always acted fully
consensually and was careful to pay attention to any signs of not
being comfortable on their part. My ethic is that it doesn't matter
so much what you do, or who you do it with, but "how" you treat the
people you are with. I still follow the golden rule, even in my
vices.
(btw, Neu Mexican, in some cases, some prostitutes are actually in
something of a contractual relationship, though it was a process
begun by their parents. Nevertheless, it is possible to buy out and
many do. This is of course still quasi-slavery but is not quite as
bad as those horror stories you read about of prostitutes bound to
beds or not allowed to leave their boss for life. In my own case,
my own engagements were in discos 90 percent of the time so I
didn't have much contact with brothels though I did visit a few. I
preferred the former though the latter was not unpleasant - not
like the news stories. Having said all that, considering the
unclear circustamces around which they operated, I decided, after a
few times, not to visit a brothel again).
I'm not saying they don't exist, but I never ran into the more
horrific stories that people talk about or you find in news
features, movies, or various other media. I'm sure these stories do
happen but I'm guessing they really aren't the norm for the
industry, and they are more hidden. You only find out about them
because it's always the extemist elements of something that make
biggger splashes - it's like having libertarians portrayed as
militia members. Secondly, when you drive something underground,
the seedier sides became more apparent, and more dangerous. Just
look at drug laws in America and how much safer those drugs would
be if they were legalized.
Bottome line though, I'm sure as libertarians, whether socially
conservative like Neu Mexican, or more libertine like myself, we
can agree that prostitution should be legalized or decriminalized
at the very least. That would improve health and safety for all,
but especially the therapists.
"but you're the one being naive if you think that cultural
differences provide a moral sanctioning of slavery."
Careful, at the rate you're using up this essential resource we may
end up in a peak straw crisis.
"Here's another point: countries have laws, and people who enter
that country intending to break those laws should be deported. No
one's "mobility rights" include the right to enter a country to
break their laws."
Since slavery had been mentioned earlier, let's apply it here. Up
until 1980 slavery was legal in Mauritania. Would you say I don't
or shouldn't have had the moral right to enter Mauritania (or the
old South) and free a slave there?
Psshaw, be gone, authoritarian.
"whether socially conservative like Neu Mexican"
Where'd that come from?
"Neu Mexican, in some cases, some prostitutes are actually in
something of a contractual relationship,"
Yes there is a wide variety of relationships and contracts that can
be involved in the industry. However, I was addressing the cases
where the sex worker was involuntarily deprived of her freedom.
Those bosses don't usually give the "pay out early" option. As long
as the worker is profitable, she'll be in debt.
"straw crisis"
I guess you missed the part where I made a distinction between case
1 (coercive bondage) and 2) what harp calls "therapist" or you
refer to as proud women supporting their families. I don't have any
problems with case two, and have not tried to impose my "western"
morality into the discussion.
See Garrison's comment. Cultural differences are irrelevent to the
morality involved in case 1.
How about this: no one should enter into a trade relationship
with anyone operating in a illiberal government with illiberal
societal arrangements to boot. South Africa comes to mind to
support both conditions. Yet, some would argue that in abstaining,
you are just as likely to entrench the conditions already present -
Cuba, Korea, Burma anyone? By involving oneself, you are part of
the effort to weaken the conditions over the long haul, to offer
alternatives to what is present. It may be the small crack in the
window that is needed to break things open.
Similarly, a kindly individual customer from a liberal society
might be one way to help individual prostitutes ease out of their
arrangments, whether they are in coercive settings or no.
It is of course right and proper to make careful moral
distinctions. But then what you *do* with that knowledge, and what
is the most useful way to help is another thing. The first might
not be a grey area. But the second surely is, at least in some
cases.
Of course when someone visits a prostitute his own interest is
chief. But that's true of every form of trade. However, there's
nothing preventing someone from commingling his interest with
compassionate action.
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