Radley Balko | February 26, 2007
The 11th Circuit Court of Appeals finds yet another exception to the Fourth Amendment.
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As far as sleazy cops creating exigent circumstances, this is quite a clever job.
To me, the two most important sentences in the entire article
are these:
"Regarding the Fourth Amendment search claim, the Court explains
that the agents' entry into the home was justified by the exigent
circumstances doctrine, since they feared that their source's life
was in danger due to the noxious chemicals inside the house."
and
"Anyway, if the agents were so worried about their source's health,
why did they knowingly send him into a meth lab?"
It was initially sending the "source" in under direction of the
police that was a violation of the fourth amendment in my opinion.
NOT going in after the source when the agents thought the source
was in danger. Once a private citizen goes into a suspected crime
scene under direction of the police that person is "working for the
police" and thus should be held to the same standards the police
are. The police were right to go I after him if they honestly
thought his life was in danger. They were NOT however; right to
send him in at all.
Once a private citizen goes into a suspected crime scene
under direction of the police that person is "working for the
police" and thus should be held to the same standards the police
are.
Agreed. How in the hell is it legal for a paid informant to go in
without a warrant?
How in the hell is it legal for a paid informant to go in
without a warrant?
I'm not a lawyer, but I'm pretty sure that its legal to enter
someone's house if you're invited. This may even apply to police
and informants.
Just coughing showed the guy's life was in danger?? Why would the agent's life be in any more danger than the guy who let him in? Did they later check the agent for signs he had been inhaling lethal doses of noxious fumes? If not, then why couldn't a wired agent just start yelling, "Stop beating me!" for the whole force to swoop in?
I'm not a lawyer, but I'm pretty sure that its legal to
enter someone's house if you're invited. This may even apply to
police and informants.
Oh auspices, I hate you.
"I'm pretty sure that its legal to enter someone's house if
you're invited."
Fruit from the vampire tree rule.
"Just coughing showed the guy's life was in danger??"
I was not there, I agree one should be skeptical of what police say
BUT even accepting their premise, I would STILL say their initial
action of sending in the informant was unconstitutional.
Twenty-nine defendants went on trial earlier this month in a
Spanish courtroom for complicity in the March 11, 2004 Madrid train
bombings that killed 191 commuters and injured another 1,800. Among
the accused: Jamal Zougam, a 33-year-old Moroccan immigrant who
once ran a cell-phone business. In June 2001, Spanish police raided
Mr. Zougam's apartment, where they found jihadist literature and
the telephone numbers of suspected terrorists. But the Spaniards
judged the evidence insufficient to arrest or even wiretap him.
Today, the Moroccan is believed to have furnished the cellphones
through which the train bombs were detonated.
In raiding Mr. Zougam's apartment, the Spanish were acting on a
request from French investigative magistrate and counterterrorism
supremo Jean-Louis Bruguiere. Earlier, Mr. Bruguiere had also
warned the Canadian government about a suspicious Algerian
asylum-seeker named Ahmed Ressam, but the Canadians took no real
action. On Dec. 14, 1999 Mr. Ressam--a k a the Millennium
Bomber--was arrested by U.S. customs agents as he attempted to
cross the border at Port Angeles, Wash., with nitroglycerin and
timing devices concealed in his spare tire.
It would be reassuring to believe that somewhere in the ranks of
the FBI or CIA America has a Jean-Louis Bruguiere of its own. But
we probably don't, and not because we lack for domestic talent,
investigative prowess, foreign connections, the will to fight
terrorism or the forensic genius of a Gallic nose. What we lack is
a system of laws that allows a man like Mr. Bruguiere to operate
the way he does. Unless we're willing to trade in the Constitution
for the Code Napoleon, we are not likely to get it.
Consider the powers granted to Mr. Bruguiere and his colleagues.
Warrantless wiretaps? Not a problem under French law, as long as
the Interior Ministry approves. Court-issued search warrants based
on probable cause? Not needed to conduct a search. Hearsay
evidence? Admissible in court. Habeas corpus? Suspects can be held
and questioned by authorities for up to 96 hours without judicial
supervision or the notification of third parties. Profiling? French
officials commonly boast of having a "spy in every mosque." A wall
of separation between intelligence and law enforcement agencies?
France's domestic and foreign intelligence bureaus work
hand-in-glove. Bail? Authorities can detain suspects in
"investigative" detentions for up to a year. Mr. Bruguiere once
held 138 suspects on terrorism-related charges. The courts
eventually cleared 51 of the suspects--some of whom had spent four
years in preventive detention--at their 1998 trial.
In the U.S., Mr. Bruguiere's activities would amount to one long
and tangled violation of the First, Fourth, Fifth, Sixth and Eighth
Amendments to the Constitution. And that's not counting the immense
legal superstructures that successive Supreme Courts have built
over and around the Bill of Rights. In France, however, Mr.
Bruguiere, though not without his critics, is a folk hero, equally
at home with governments of the left and right. The main point in
his favor is that whatever it is he's doing, it works.
"Every single attempt to bomb France since 1995 has been stopped
before execution," notes a former Interior Ministry senior
official. "The French policy has been [to] make sure no terrorist
hits at home. We know perfectly well that foreign-policy
triangulation is not sufficient for that, [even if] it helps us go
down a notch or two in the order of priority [jihadist] targets. So
we've complemented our anti-U.S. foreign policy with ruthless
domestic measures."
That's something that U.S. civil libertarians, who frequently argue
that the Bush administration should follow the "European model" of
treating terrorism as a law-enforcement issue instead of a military
one, might usefully keep in mind. As lawyers David Rivkin and Lee
Casey argue in the forthcoming issue of The National Interest, "the
[Napoleonic] Civil Law system offers considerable advantages to the
state in combating terrorism--especially in terms of investigative
tools and a level of secrecy--that are simply unavailable in the
ordinary Common Law criminal prosecution and trial, at least as
governed by the United States Constitution."
Again, review the contrasts between American and European
practices. Except in limited circumstances, the U.S. does not allow
pretrial detentions. But according to figures compiled by the U.S.
State Department, 38% of individuals held in Italian prisons in
2005 were awaiting trial or the outcome of an appeal, while Spanish
law allows for pre-trial detentions that can last as long as four
years for terrorism suspects. In the U.S., the Posse Comitatus Act
forbids the use of the military in law-enforcement work, and
paramilitary units are relatively rare. By contrast, most European
countries deploy huge paramilitary forces: Italy's Carabinieri;
France's Gendarmerie Nationale; Spain's Guardia Civil.
Even Britain, which shares America's common law traditions, has
been forced by Irish and now Islamist terrorism to resort to
administrative detentions, trials without jury (the famous Diplock
courts) and ubiquitous public surveillance. Wiretapping is
authorized by the Home Secretary--that is, a member of the
government--rather than an independent judge. In the early days of
the Northern Irish "troubles," the government of Edward Heath
placed some 2,000 suspects, without charge, in internment camps.
Ironically, it was the decision to treat terrorists as ordinary
criminals that led to the famous hunger strikes of Bobby Sands and
his IRA crew.
All this calls into question the seriousness, if not the sincerity,
of European complaints that under the Bush administration the U.S.
has become a serial human-rights violator. Europeans have every
right to be proud of civil servants like Mr. Bruguiere and a legal
tradition that in many ways has been remarkably successful against
terrorism. But that is not the American way, nor can it be if we
intend to be true to a constitutional order of checks and balances,
judicial review and a high respect for the rights of the accused.
When President Bush declared a war on terror after 9/11, it was
because he had no other realistic legal alternative. And when the
rest of us make invidious comparisons between Europe and America,
we should keep our fundamental differences in mind. There is no
European 82nd Airborne, and there is no American Jean-Louis
Bruguiere.
"I'm not a lawyer, but I'm pretty sure that its legal to enter
someone's house if you're invited. This may even apply to police
and informants."
However, he was working for the police and apparently he did not
say "Hey, I just want you guys to know, I am working for the
police." This makes him equivalent to an undercover police officer.
I.O.W. he was searching their home with neither a warrant nor the
informed consent of the owners.
"That's called a sea of copy, and I don't feel like
swimming."
Enjoy your bliss!
Bliss? Just because I didn't plow through your thinly-veiled argument against the return key doesn't mean that I haven't lived in a country with the inquisitorial style legal proceedings, and I make a living in adversarial style legal proceedings? Bliss? I wish I could find it.
What is FARK? One of the comments on the link said we had been FARKed. Does that mean the story is made up?
Two Points:
First, the decision notes,
"one of the agents walked by an exhaust fan that was ventilating
the house and received a chemical burn. He went to the emergency
room for treatment." This indicates the police were not just making
something up. Meth labs are quite dangerous.
Second, this decision involved a civil action against the police
officers. Police have "qualified immunity" for violations of the
Constitution. This means that unless what they did clearly violated
the Constitution, they are not liable. The Courts have adopted this
rule so that police are not unnecessarily concerned with their own
(or, in effect, their police organizaion's) liability. Thus, in a
criminal prosecution the same analysis would not necessarily
hold.
I find the post at Decision of the Day misleading.
How many commentators here actually looked at the decision?
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