David Weigel | February 21, 2007
The Cato Institute's Tom Palmer co-writes an op-ed in the Washington Post about Abdelkareem Nabil Soliman, a prisoner in Egypt we really should be hearing more about.
Soliman, 22, was expelled from Al-Azhar University last spring for sharply criticizing the university's rigid curriculum and faulting religious extremism on his blog. He was ordered to appear before a public prosecutor on Nov. 7 on charges of "spreading information disruptive of public order," "incitement to hate Muslims" and "insulting the President." Soliman was detained pending an investigation, and the detention has been renewed four times. He has not had consistent access to lawyers or to his family.
Egyptian authorities have made a mistake in prosecuting Soliman. It is Egypt that will be hurt if he is convicted and sent to prison. That's why sincere friends of Egypt call on the government to drop the charges against him. It is the right thing to do, and it is the best thing for Egypt's standing in the modern world.
Kareem allies in the U.S. are frightfully well-organized; their site is here.
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Weren't the Egyptian elections supposed to be part of the heralding of a new era in the middle east following the invasion of Iraq?
Just like the Palestinian elections!
I wonder why we never heard Iran's 05 elections framed that way,
even during the buildup
At least here in the Land of the Free and Home of the Brave we
can dissent on religion without legal repercussions.
However, the same can't be said of social
repercussions.
If the US government were to pressure Egypt to release Kareem, they
are essentially saying "Religion has no place in public policy and
government affairs." Does anyone really think that this is the sort
of thing that the Bush Admin is likely to cop to? I doubt it as,
under this regime, being a non-Christian is tantamount to being
un-American or *gasp* a liberal.
BTW: How come you never hear a person of the Hebrew persuasion
refer to the "Judeo-Christian" culture?
"BTW: How come you never hear a person of the Hebrew persuasion
refer to the "Judeo-Christian" culture?"
because some consider it insulting. others consider it
innacurate.
for people outside of that continuum, however, it is a handy
shorthand; i prefer "the western tradition" myself since it
includes the big three.
At least here in the Land of the Free and Home of the Brave
we can dissent on religion without legal repercussions. However,
the same can't be said of social repercussions.
You see, this is why the signal-to-noise ratio on religious issues
is so low in most places in America. Atheists think that they have
as much right as others to make us listen to them, but, if that
were the case, then bad religious commentary drives out good. If
the majority of people in America are happier without atheists
there, then I think that constitutes sufficient justification for
the social shunning. We're weighing the happiness of a minority of
individuals (atheists) against the happiness of about fifty times
as many people (the faithful).
dhex,
First, in part it because of the rampant and longlasting
persecution of Jews by Christians over the history of
Christianity.
Secondly it is because of the significant differences between
Judaism (in its many forms) and Christianity (in its many
forms).
Not Grylliade,
We're weighing the happiness of a minority of individuals
(atheists) against the happiness of about fifty times as many
people (the faithful).
Atheists, agnostics, etc. make up about 10%-15% of the U.S.
population. Indeed, as a percentage of the population our numbers
have been growing steadily over the past few decades.
You see, this is why the signal-to-noise ratio on religious
issues is so low in most places in America. Atheists think that
they have as much right as others to make us listen to them, but,
if that were the case, then bad religious commentary drives out
good. If the majority of people in America are happier without
atheists there, then I think that constitutes sufficient
justification for the social shunning. We're weighing the happiness
of a minority of individuals (atheists) against the happiness of
about fifty times as many people (the faithful).
Good point, which is why Muslims in the Middle East have every
right to exterminate Jews -- the minority in that region, and why
slavery was justified (hey, they're outnumbered!). Carry on.
Good point, which is why Muslims in the Middle East have
every right to exterminate Jews -- the minority in that region, and
why slavery was justified (hey, they're outnumbered!). Carry
on.
that wasn't exactly my point.
http://www.reason.com/blog/show/118760.html#644741
Anyone else rembmer the kid that nobody wanted to hang out with on the playground, because he was constantly eating his own boogers and never bathed? No matter how hard the other kids picked on him, he never got the message and kept coming around for more abuse.
Chris S.,
You know, if a majority of people find greater happiness in a
society which is exclusively of one "race" (note that I find the
concept of race to be a suspect one), then hey, social shunning is
appropriate.
If I were to make an argument like that and mean it, I'd be
labelled (and rightly so) a racist.
Just wondering...speaking of political and social
injustices...
Has H&R ever posted anything regarding Leonard Peltier? I
am fairly new to this blog, so I don't know its history. And,
although I don't claim to know many of the facts surrounding Mr.
Peltier's case, from what I've seen, this man does not deserve what
has been happening to him.
Any thoughts on this? Why is there no mention of this guy anywhere?
Seems as if all but a few have forgotten about him.
BTW: How come you never hear a person of the Hebrew
persuasion refer to the "Judeo-Christian" culture?
Because they're not on board in sufficient numbers with the
social-conservative platform the promotion of which seems to be the
reason the term was invented.
Supporters of Moveon.org will be marching in the streets to protest this Arab country's violation of human rights, correct? I just can't find the date on their website.
JimmyDaGeek - Welcome aboard. In response to your question,
about whether H&R has ever posted anything about Peltier, the
answer seems to be "not much, if anything". Personally, I'm kind of
undecided about Peltier - I don't trust the FBI as far as I could
kick them, but I'm not convinced that he's a snowy-white political
prisoner, either.
As far as why he hasn't gotten a lot of press here, I'd say it's
probably partly because the incidents in question occurred 30 years
ago and partly because he's gotten so much press elsewhere.
According to
Wikipedia,
"Peltier is considered a political prisoner by some of his
supporters and has received support from many individuals and
groups, including Nelson Mandela, Rigoberta MenchĂș, Amnesty
International, the U.N. High Commissioner on Human Rights, Tenzin
Gyatso (the 14th Dalai Lama), the European Parliament[3], the
Belgian Parliament[4], the Italian Parliament, the Kennedy Memorial
Center for Human Rights, Archbishop Desmond Tutu, and the Rev.
Jesse Jackson."
He's been the subject of numerous documentaries, songs, books,
poems, etc., and
"Over 500 celebrities, politicians and organisations worldwide have
signed a letter/petition in support of Leonard Peltier. The
signatories of the IPF (International Peltier Forum) include
amongst others, Michael Apted, Kris Kristofferson, Peter
Matthiessen, Madonna, Bono, Sting, Vivienne Westwood, Giorgio
Armani, Cher, Kylie Minogue, Elton John, Oliver Stone, Danielle
Mitterrand, Desmond Tutu, Mikhail Gorbachev, Raquel Welch, Joan
Collins, Ozzy Osbourne, Bianca Jagger, Kate Moss." (Wikipedia
again.)
I'm not sure what the hell we're going to add to the debate at this
point, you know? Better to focus on less well-known events that
don't have the same superstar power.
Hello, could you help me promote this freedom video as much as
you can, if you agree to its contents, of course. It's about
Egypt's real nature and the accelerating imprisonment of freedom
fighters in general, and bloggers like Kareem and many others under
severe threats from the Egyptian Government.
Many thanks, Ahmad
Here is the link to the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbEM6soTHOA
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